Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2018 November 11



File:ITV logo 2013.svg

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The result of the discussion was: Remove (d) from Television in the United Kingdom. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 07:12, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
 * File:ITV logo 2013.svg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by AxG ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Remove from per WP:NFCC. There is no sourced critical commentary about the logo itself. Readers are able to understand the article subject without seeing the logo of a specific company/network. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 20:21, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Remove from Television in the United Kingdom per nominator. This is a general history type article which often includes some summarized information from various other articles about the subject per WP:SS, but which typically doesn't go it to the amount of detail to provide the context for non-free use required by WP:NFCC to justify the use of non-free logos. This logo can be seen in the stand-alone article about the channel which is more than sufficient per WP:NFCC and item 6 of WP:NFC; so, there's really no justifiable reason for using it in this article. Moreover, any sourced critical commentary about the logo itself would also likely not be appropriate for the genre-like "Television in the United Kingdom" article, so I cannot see any realy way to even add content to the article to justify non-free use.Now, there might a possiblity that this is simple enough to be public domain for local use on English Wikipedia. It seems too complex to be PD-logo per c:COM:TOO, but it might be PD in the United States per c:COM:TOO. If the consensus is to convert the file to "PD-ineligible=USonly", it would no longer be subject to WP:NFCCP and could be used basically the same way as a PD file from Commons. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:23, 12 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Removed - No point explaining why I believe it meets NFCC #8 because at the end of the day whatever I say is going to count for nothing so removed. – Davey 2010 Talk 19:27, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
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File:UKTV logo.png

 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the media below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the discussion was: Remove(d) from Television in the United Kingdom. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 07:12, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
 * File:UKTV logo.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by AxG ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Remove from per WP:NFCC and WP:NFCC. There is no sourced critical commentary about the logo itself. Readers are able to understand the article subject without seeing the logo of a specific company/network. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 20:23, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Remove from Television in the United Kingdom per nominator and also per WP:NFCC. This is a general history type article which often includes some summarized information from various other articles about the subject per WP:SS, but which typically doesn't go it to the amount of detail to provide the context for non-free use required by WP:NFCC to justify the use of non-free logos. This logo can be seen in the stand-alone article about the channel which is more than sufficient per WP:NFCC and item 6 of WP:NFC; so, there's really no justifiable reason for using it in this article. There is also no seperate specific non-free use rationale provided for the use in "Televison in the United Kingdom"; so, the file can be removed per WP:NFCCE. Simply providing the missing rationale seems pointless per WP:JUSTONE because any sourced critical commentary about the logo itself would also likely not be appropriate for a genre/history type of article "Television in the United Kingdom" article, so I cannot see any realy way to even add content to the article to justify non-free use.Now, there might a possiblity that this is simple enough to be public domain for local use on English Wikipedia. It seems too complex to be PD-logo per c:COM:TOO, but it might be PD in the United States per c:COM:TOO. If the consensus is to convert the file to "PD-ineligible-USonly", it would no longer be subject to WP:NFCCP and could be used basically the same way as a PD file from Commons. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:26, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Removed - No point explaining why I believe it meets NFCC #8 because at the end of the day whatever I say is going to count for nothing so removed. – Davey 2010 Talk 19:27, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
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