Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2018 October 26



File:Neal Brown - Troy.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  08:05, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Neal Brown - Troy.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Kreeder13 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Appears to be extremely flagrant copyright violation, as seen here the photo is a crop of this Getty Photo (original source image) Bobak (talk) 03:20, 26 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Speedy delete as a blatant copyright infringement. The EXIF on the file makes it clear it is a Getty image. -- Whpq (talk) 14:21, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
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File:Order of the Arrow sashes.png

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The result of the discussion was: relisted on. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:54, 3 November 2018 (UTC)


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File:HollywoodParkModel Before.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  06:05, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
 * File:HollywoodParkModel Before.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Nowwatch ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).
 * File:London Before.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Nowwatch ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).
 * File:London After.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Nowwatch ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).
 * File:HKDisneyHollywoodHotel Before.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Nowwatch ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).
 * File:HKDisneyHollywoodHotel After.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Nowwatch ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).
 * File:Rock Before.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Nowwatch ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).
 * File:Rock After.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Nowwatch ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).
 * File:SoakCity Before.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Nowwatch ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).
 * File:SoakCity After.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Nowwatch ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

File:HarrowdownHill Field.jpg and File:HarrowdownHill Factory.jpg turned out to be copyright violations as screenshots of non-free videos. These files are incredibly similar to the deleted files, so it raises significant doubt of the uploader's assertion of own work. ℯ xplicit 06:44, 26 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Notes:
 * Google cache of Skyscraper city forum post from 11 Jan 2007 which predates the 8 Spe 2007 upload date. Note www (.) skyscrapercity (.) com is blacklisted so the above URL doesn't work unless you replace "blacklisted" with the skyscrpaer city URL
 * This site has File:HKDisneyHollywoodHotel Before.jpg but at a slightly larger size of 500x333 instead of the 450x300 uploaded here.
 * Given this evidence, I find the claim of being the copyright holder to be dubious so Delete -- Whpq (talk) 13:39, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
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File:Flybmi logo.svg

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The result of the discussion was: Relicense to PD-USonly. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:54, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Flybmi logo.svg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Benstown ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Logo is not necessarily trivial by UK standards, concern is the logo element (top right) ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 08:39, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm not familiar with the UK standards, so I listed it as PD-USonly. On a side note, should the conclusion be non-free, please resize said file, as my version of Inkscape completely distorts it. Thank you. --Ben Stone 08:49, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
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File:JeffreyMilburn.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  06:05, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
 * File:JeffreyMilburn.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Mar3ini ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Permission claim but no OTRS ticket. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 08:40, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
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File:Haunting of Hill House promotional poster.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  06:05, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Haunting of Hill House promotional poster.jpg">File:Haunting of Hill House promotional poster.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Ferkijel ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

The article, The Haunting of Hill House, contained a  of the intertitle. The editor who uploaded this file left a message in my talk page ("Copyrighted images....") in which he mistakenly thought the existing file needed to be replaced with a more acceptable file. It didn't. Unlike the screenshot of the title card, this file is a promotional photo (not a "poster") published in Netflix's Facebook account. Pyxis Solitary  yak  08:58, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
 * The file I uploaded is not a promotional photo, but a cropped version of the promotional poster. But the title card you uploaded is just as good if not a better representation of the show, as it includes de name of the show. No arguments from my side.Ferkijel (talk) 10:50, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
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File:Soviet Union-1979-Coin-1-XXII Olympic games.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  06:05, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Soviet Union-1979-Coin-1-XXII Olympic games.jpg">File:Soviet Union-1979-Coin-1-XXII Olympic games.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Astabada ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Medal/coin design, Not sure this falls within the exemptions granted in the license. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 09:12, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
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File:Srinivasprasad.gif
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  06:05, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Srinivasprasad.gif ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Jyntprasad ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Ownership of an image does not necessarily means the copyright transferred, Who actually created the image? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 09:14, 26 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete unless proper sourcing can be confirmed. The PD statement claims this is a derivative of a public domain work without providing any information of where the base image came from.  Based on the timing of the subject's career (1979 to 1988 as stated at M. R. Srinivasaprasad)and India's copyright duration of life+60 years, I have significant doubts about the claim of public domain for the source. -- Whpq (talk) 14:18, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
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File:Gurumayum Bonny.png
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  08:05, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Gurumayum Bonny.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Takhellei ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Instagram photos are not automatically PD ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 09:37, 26 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Speedy delete - clear copyright violation. Specious declaration of public domain. -- Whpq (talk) 12:42, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
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File:Bala Hijam.png
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F9 by AnomieBOT ⚡  20:14, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Bala Hijam.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Takhellei ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Instagram photos are not automatically PD ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 09:37, 26 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Speedy delete - clear copyright violation. Specious declaration of public domain. -- Whpq (talk) 12:41, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
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File:Soma Laishram.png
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F9 by AnomieBOT ⚡  20:14, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Soma Laishram.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Takhellei ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Instagram photos are not automatically PD ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 09:38, 26 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Speedy delete - clear copyright violation. Specious declaration of public domain. -- Whpq (talk) 12:38, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
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File:Bonium Thokchom.png
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F9 by AnomieBOT ⚡  20:14, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Bonium Thokchom.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Takhellei ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Instagram photos are not automatically PD ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 10:04, 26 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Speedy delete - clear copyright violation. Specious declaration of public domain. -- Whpq (talk) 12:46, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
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File:Gokul Athokpam.png
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F9 by AnomieBOT ⚡  23:01, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Gokul Athokpam.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Takhellei ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Instagram photos are not PD ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 10:05, 26 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Speedy delete - clear copyright violation. Specious declaration of public domain. -- Whpq (talk) 12:44, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
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File:Kaiku Rajkumar.png
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  08:05, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Kaiku Rajkumar.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Takhellei ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Instagram photos are not automatically PD ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 10:05, 26 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Speedy delete - clear copyright violation. Specious declaration of public domain. -- Whpq (talk) 12:43, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
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Images uploaded by Takhellei
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The result of the discussion was: speedy delete. WP:F9. Let me know if I overstepped here and I'll be happy to undelete. Kevin ( aka L235 ·&#32; t ·&#32; c) 09:44, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Abenao Elangbam.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs])


 * File:Kamala Saikhom.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Takhellei ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).


 * File:Hamom Sadananda.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Takhellei ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).


 * File:Leishangthem Tonthoi.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Takhellei ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).


 * File:Sushmita Mangsatabam.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Takhellei ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Uploader is asserting these images are under a free license with the same or similar source wording of "It's taken during a film shooting". And examination of the images indicate that these are screenshots taken by cell phone from video playback. The images have video playback artefacts. For example File:Hamom Sadananda.jpg appears squished as would be seen with playback of video at the wrong aspect ratio. Given the uploaders declarion of PD license on Instagram photos for other uploads, it's very likely the uploader is completely unfamiliar with copyright and licensing. Whpq (talk) 13:03, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
 * It's an F9. The uploader says the work was created "during a film shooting", making the copyright violation unambiguous. Kevin ( aka L235 ·&#32; t ·&#32; c) 09:30, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
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File:The Square Cafe Bargoed- Circa 1935.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete, dubious self-work claim - F ASTILY   04:40, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
 * File:The Square Cafe Bargoed- Circa 1935.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs])

It is my photo. I don't want this used anymore. Please remove it GugnePorcu (talk) 09:12, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. Others clearly do. It's in use at Welsh Italians. Should be kept and moved to Commons. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 15:44, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Is the uploader really a centenarian? -- Asclepias (talk) 20:29, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 14:07, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
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File:Huak.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: keep. Mostly because there is no indication of what the problem is. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:57, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Huak.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Sonyphillips ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

photo of a living person. Saqib (talk) 10:59, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
 * There are loads of photos of living people on Wikipedia, why should this one be deleted? Iffy★Chat -- 11:13, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
 * permission is missing as well. Likely copyvio. --Saqib (talk) 11:54, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
 * The file suggests that the photo was taken by the author in 2005, uploaded in 2008, and licensed under GFDL 1.2 and CC BY-SA 3.0. Do you have any evidence that this is untrue? Iffy★Chat -- 14:14, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

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File:Romeroadbuild.png
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  06:05, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Romeroadbuild.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Jerry ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

There is a split request on the file, but I am a little wary of the older version of the file which seems to have an unclear origin. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 14:23, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete both, orphaned with no obvious value. Salavat (talk) 01:44, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
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File:&
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The result of the discussion was: Deleted - F ASTILY   04:36, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:&#34;Logo of Elite team, Vandergroup as of 2018 September 2018.jpg&#34;.jpg">File:& ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Starbucks1919 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

There was a split request on this file, but the second version has small text "(c) Daphney Dupré - Tour de Maurice 2018" that makes me think it needs to be deleted instead. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 14:41, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
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File:Günther Ziegler.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F8 by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 01:01, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Günther Ziegler.jpg">File:Günther Ziegler.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Materialscientist ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

A freely-licensed image of Günther Ziegler now exists at commons:File:Günther Ziegler.jpg but is shadowed by this non-free file. clpo13(talk) 16:51, 26 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete agree that the non free criteria is now void due to the presence of the free image on commons. -- D Big X ray ᗙ  21:23, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
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File:GEC Plug and Socket, 1893.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 06:05, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:GEC Plug and Socket, 1893.jpg">File:GEC Plug and Socket, 1893.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Mautby ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Already available on commons as a Public Domain image at c:File:GEC Plug and Socket, 1893.jpg, The Wikipedia copy is now unnecessary.  D Big X ray ᗙ  21:21, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
 * ..except the file can't use PD-old-assumed because Fae is on a crusade against that template and PD-UK-unknown.. Given information Clindberg recently provided I'm somewhat more confident about PD-UK-unknown now, but to say the license is beyond reasonable doubt.. I don't know. The biggest risk is that I follow Clindberg's suggestion to have both PD-UK-unknown and PD-old-assumed. Because as soon as I (or anyone else) re-add PD-old-assumed, Fae will nominate it for deletion. Because if Fae can't get rid of the template use on the file, Fae will try to get rid of the file entirely. - Alexis Jazz 04:19, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Pinging User:Fæ and c:User:Fæ as he is named above, for his opinion on this deletion discussion. Based on the discussion held at commons village pump, there seems to be a consensus that the applicability of "public domain" tag is unquestionable. I really don't see any reason how User:Fæ can get this image from 1893 deleted from commons in future. -- D Big X ray ᗙ  09:23, 28 October 2018 (UTC)


 * If the author would turn out not to be unknown, PD-UK-unknown could be invalidated. If we would know the author wasn't unknown, but wouldn't be able to find a death date, PD-old-assumed could still be valid. And if somebody tags it for deletion, you never know what will happen. I think enwiki has some misconceptions about how Commons handles media files. You think we are all copyright experts. That's.. not entirely right. - Alexis Jazz 09:40, 29 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Replying as I have been pinged. I do not appreciated being misrepresented with what appears to be a pattern of bad faith trolling and forum shopping. Anyone can review my view in the copyright noticeboard archives here. To avoid doubt I stopped writing with "It's public domain. The discussion is a technical matter of Commons policies and templates. You can safely ignore the soapboxing and bad language." --Fæ (talk) 15:44, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this section.