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File:Giddha of Solan.ogv

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  10:09, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Giddha of Solan.ogv ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Garconlevis ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

professionally produced video, dubious self-work claim  F ASTILY   07:00, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete, orphaned with questionable licensing. Salavat (talk) 23:49, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
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File:Pressphoto.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: relisted on. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:55, 7 November 2018 (UTC)


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File:LtG Petraeus.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:02, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
 * File:LtG Petraeus.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Looper5920 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Referral as image is low resolution, with visible color artefacts. Image is unused, (and technically unsourced). ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 17:00, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete, orphaned with no obvious value. Salavat (talk) 23:49, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
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File:Bethel Iowa.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:02, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Bethel Iowa.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Firsfron ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

How is this PD-US Gov? Given source claims "Commercial use or distribution of the image is not permitted without prior permission of the copyright holder." ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 19:09, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello,
 * At the time the file was uploaded (2006), the licensing on the source site was quite different, and stated "The University of Iowa Libraries are not aware of any U.S. copyright protection (see Title 17, U.S.C.) or any other restrictions in the materials in the John P. Vander Maas Railroadiana Collection." and "We do ask that a credit line be included with each image used." I have no problem with deleting the image, as an explicit copyright notice was later added.  Firsfron of Ronchester  15:19, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
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File:Bush ISB.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:02, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Bush ISB.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Gmbot ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Claimed as a PD-USGov, but source given is not necessarily a Federal agency. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 19:20, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete, orphaned with questionable licensing. Salavat (talk) 23:48, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
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File:Chevrons of the Confederate Army.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:02, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Chevrons of the Confederate Army.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Lordoliver ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unused image, claimed as PD-US-Gov but no additional information provided (such as the source) book to confirm this. Not automatic F11 owing to the PD-USGov claim. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 19:40, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete, orphaned with questionable licensing. Salavat (talk) 23:48, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
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File:Confederate Collar Badges.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:02, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Confederate Collar Badges.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Lordoliver ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Claimed as PD-US Gov, but there's not enough information on the file description page to be sure, such as the book that was scanned. Image is unused. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 19:59, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete, orphaned with questionable licensing. Salavat (talk) 23:49, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
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File:Congbench.PNG
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:02, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Congbench.PNG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Fidelfair ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Conflicting licensing claims. License is PD-USgov, but the uploader claims they scanned it. Who actually created the original please? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 20:01, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
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File:Congressman mel price.gif
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:02, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Congressman mel price.gif ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Benjamin Gatti ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

An old newspaper photo is not necessarily PD-USGov. Source link is dead. However I am willing to be convinced the photo is an official Military photo, given the subject is clearly in Uniform and identified with a rank. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 20:03, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete, essentially orphaned (not used in the main space) with questionable licensing. Salavat (talk) 23:50, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
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File:Constantinople-Photo-Panoramic view.png
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The result of the discussion was: Withdrawn. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:55, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Constantinople-Photo-Panoramic view.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by OttomanReference ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Presence in an archive does not necessarily make an image PD-US-Gov. Given the style of this photo it may be PD-old, but clarification as to the sourcing/authorship of the original would be appreciated. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 20:12, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete, orphaned with questionable licensing. Salavat (talk) 23:50, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Struck out my comment given the changes made by User:Asclepias. Salavat (talk) 05:31, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment: Fixed. (The description had a Library of Congress identification code.) -- Asclepias (talk) 04:18, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Withdrawn - Uploader provided a much expanded source/citation for this media.ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 22:22, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
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File:Constantinople-Photo-Panoramic view2.png
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F8 by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:02, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Constantinople-Photo-Panoramic view2.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Mursili ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Presence in an archive does not make necessarily make an image PD-USGov, Clarifcation as to sourcing and authorship of the original is needed. Given the photo style it may be PD-Old? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 20:13, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete, orphaned with questionable licensing. Salavat (talk) 23:50, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
 * It's not orphaned. -- Asclepias (talk) 04:28, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Fair call, I have struck out my comment. Could File:Constantinople-Photo-Panoramic view.png replace this image in the article and then be deleted as redundant though? Salavat (talk) 05:33, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Not really. It's a modified version, with the upper part (a portion of sky) of the photograph cropped out, resulting in a different ratio of the dimensions. There's an aesthetic choice made by the editors of the article, to use this version in the article. It probably would not be a good idea for people who don't work on this article to suddenly change the choices made by the editors of the article about an image that is there since the creation of the article more than eleven years ago. There's no problem with having more than one version of an image. From what I could find, Wikimedia has at least five versions of this image, all different in some way. There are three files on Commons (the .tif file, complete with the original caption at the top, and two smaller .jpg files, one with the left side cropped out, both used in articles in different wikipedias) and there are two .png files on en.wikipedia (one with the top cropped out and both larger than the .jpg files). -- Asclepias (talk) 19:12, 3 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment: See comment about File:Constantinople-Photo-Panoramic view.png. -- Asclepias (talk) 04:28, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Withdrawn, Why don't we have both versions on Commons? Thanks for updating the sourcing. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 22:25, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
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File:Frank Karpati NJ Asso College Admission Counseling.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:02, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Frank Karpati NJ Asso College Admission Counseling.jpg">File:Frank Karpati NJ Asso College Admission Counseling.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Frank S. Karpati ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

A certificate like this is typically a design held by the issuing institution. How is this own work vs an ineligible design? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 20:20, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete, orphaned with no obvious value. Salavat (talk) 23:51, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
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File:Frank Karpati NJPCA Pro Coun Asso Cert.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:02, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Frank Karpati NJPCA Pro Coun Asso Cert.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Frank S. Karpati ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

The design of a certificate like this is typically copyright to the issuing institution. How is this own work vs an ineligible design? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 20:20, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete, orphaned with no obvious value. Salavat (talk) 23:51, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
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File:CytherapublishedJudgement.pdf
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:02, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
 * File:CytherapublishedJudgement.pdf ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Belleami ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

This is not PD-US-Gov, The copyright in the judgement is held by a judicial entity in Australia. Was there an OTRS ticket filed for this? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 20:38, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
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File:DD442.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Withdrawn - F ASTILY   01:01, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
 * File:DD442.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by ELars1989 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unused, No source other than generic. No other context provided on the file description page, or that could be determined from analysing the uploaders contributions. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 20:43, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete, orphaned with no obvious value. Salavat (talk) 23:52, 30 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Withdrawn, Some context was added by myself. So it's no longer an FFD issue. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 22:23, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
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File:DeWitt-Sam-1920.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:02, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
 * File:DeWitt-Sam-1920.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Carrite ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

File has an apparent deletion request "This was an accidental upload, please feel free to delete it." but felt an FFD referral was reasonable as the image would seem to be useful otherwise. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 20:59, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete, orphaned with no obvious value. Salavat (talk) 23:52, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - I don't recall the circumstances of the erroneous upload, but I trust myself eight years ago. Carrite (talk) 02:14, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
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File:Dean Heller, Official Portrait, 112th Congress.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:02, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Dean Heller, Official Portrait, 112th Congress.jpg">File:Dean Heller, Official Portrait, 112th Congress.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Stevenlucky ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Assuming good faith, but I find it odd that an official portrait is sourced to Facebook rather than to a .gov site ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 21:00, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete, orphaned with questionable licensing. Salavat (talk) 23:53, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
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File:District regionalism map of Guthrie copy.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:02, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
 * File:District regionalism map of Guthrie copy.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Akon1762 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

City level governments are not Federal Agencies. File description page says this was supplied by the City, not a State or Federal entity. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 21:15, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
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File:Donald Arthur JD.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:02, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Donald Arthur JD.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by PariahCarry ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

The copyright in a University Doctorate as it exists is typically held by the issuing institution. How is this PD-US Gov, when Universities are not typically a Federal Agency? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 21:19, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
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File:Donald Arthur Ph.D Century.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:02, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Donald Arthur Ph.D Century.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by PariahCarry ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

In so far as a doctorate can have a copyright, wouldn't it be typically held by the issuing institution? I'm unclear as to how a document issued by such an institution would constitute a work by the Federal Govt. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 21:21, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete, orphaned with questionable licensing. Salavat (talk) 23:53, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
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