Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2018 September 17



File:3-Benzoyloxycyclohexen-Synthese.svg

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The result of the discussion was: Wrong forum. The file is on Commons. Please nominate it for deletion there if you still feel it should be deleted. AnomieBOT ⚡ 03:03, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
 * File:3-Benzoyloxycyclohexen-Synthese.svg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by ChemDoc 2010 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Low quality image (frame size is too big in relation to actual content) Keministi (talk) 03:01, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
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File:Stinson Hall, Woodlawn School.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  22:19, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Stinson Hall, Woodlawn School.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Woodlawnschool ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Un-splittable file, No confirmation of a 'free' license for either version. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 07:56, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
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File:Defensive bearded dragon.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F8 by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:01, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Defensive bearded dragon.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Enlil Ninlil ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Un-splittable file, Unused. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 07:58, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Since the uploads were by the same person three minutes apart, and the first image is a mammal of some sort and most certainly not a bearded dragon, I think we can take it on faith that the first upload is accidental and that we don't need to worry about splitting it. The second image is not terrible quality and it's of an encyclopedic subject so it should be moved to Commons. --B (talk) 21:01, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
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File:Mishkinqalam.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:01, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Mishkinqalam.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Cunado19 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Un-splitable file. Unclear which revision the attached information is supposed to be associated with. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 08:01, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
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File:Japan election 2005 prior.png

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The result of the discussion was: not deleted and there is no real need to split the image anyway unless it is useful in some way - it is common practice on Wikipedia to have updated versions of a chart or a table uploaded over top of each other. --B (talk) 21:06, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Japan election 2005 prior.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by TakuyaMurata ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unsplitable file, No license or incomplete information for overwritten/reverted revisions. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 08:03, 17 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep: perhaps I don't understand the issue but it was created by me and is licensed under GFDL. If more info is needed, I can provide but I need to know what is missing. -- Taku (talk) 23:22, 17 September 2018 (UTC)


 * The problem is that a different image has become intertwined in the history. Namely - https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/archive/0/06/20050913233749%21Japan_election_2005_prior.png.  Your version IS correctly attributed. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 08:40, 18 September 2018 (UTC)


 * They were also created by me and so there should be no copyright issue. If asked, I can also reupload the current image. -- Taku (talk) 22:44, 23 September 2018 (UTC)


 *  Withdrawn pending upload of images under new titles. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 12:56, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
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File:GPS-broadcast-signal.png

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:01, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
 * File:GPS-broadcast-signal.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Stimpy ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Apparently un-splittable file, Most recent revision on Commons as File:GPS signal modulation scheme.svg ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 08:05, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
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File:Fyodor Petrovich Tolstoy 2.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:01, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Fyodor Petrovich Tolstoy 2.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Kmorozov ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Apparently un-splittable file, No license information for most recent revision ( most likely pd-art). ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 08:07, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
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File:DubCrtHouse.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:01, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
 * File:DubCrtHouse.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Jesster79 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Apparently unsplittable file, both versions for meta-date in summary, and the image is in use. If it can be split to two files both should be on Commons. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 08:08, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
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File:Dover Hotel, Petty Street, Dover, Stewart County, TN.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:01, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Dover Hotel, Petty Street, Dover, Stewart County, TN.jpg">File:Dover Hotel, Petty Street, Dover, Stewart County, TN.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Hlj ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Apparently unsplittable file, In-use, Given meta-data relates to previous upload. Most recent revision is not PD-US as it was taken in 2006 ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 08:10, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
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File:DJ Z-Trip (2006).jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:01, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:DJ Z-Trip (2006).jpg">File:DJ Z-Trip (2006).jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Fallerd ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Apparently un-splittable file, Which (or both) of the revisions was under the given license? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 08:11, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
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File:Bond hill, cincinnati.JPG
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:01, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Bond hill, cincinnati.JPG">File:Bond hill, cincinnati.JPG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Aharon ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Apparently unsplittable, information block relates to most recent revision, apparently this was uploaded because of a lack of clarity about the original upload under this name. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 08:12, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
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File:RRF TRF.GIF
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:01, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
 * File:RRF TRF.GIF ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Hammersfan ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Apparently unsplittable, Which version is current? File notes it has been superseded anyway, but is is still in use in one article. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 08:14, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
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File:RussiaNorthOssetia.Highlight.png
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:01, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
 * File:RussiaNorthOssetia.Highlight.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Hajor ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Which revision does the added information block actually refer to? Lack of clarity regarding this. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 08:15, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
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File:Ryan Miller (musician).jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:01, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Ryan Miller (musician).jpg">File:Ryan Miller (musician).jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Joeblack982 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Ryan Miller (musician) (2).jpg">File:Ryan Miller (musician) (2).jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs])

Apparently un-splitable file, unused. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 08:16, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm confused why it can't be split. I just did it - split into File:Ryan Miller (musician).jpg and File:Ryan Miller (musician) (2).jpg.  (I did it more because I wanted to see for myself what the problem with splitting is, not because there is actually a use for the images.)  Since neither image is used, I think it's fine to  delete both. --B (talk) 13:49, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
 * The problem is that there is no upload in the file history, it only shows up on the file page. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 13:54, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Until 2009(ish?), the upload never showed up in the file history - only in the logs. If there were an image where we really wanted both versions and we had a reasonable expectation that the license applies to both versions, does that really matter?  We upload images to Commons all the time where the author of the image isn't going to show up in the history.  As long as we edit the description page to say who that uploader is, I don't see why that shouldn't suffice.  (It's probably mostly an academic point - with 99.99% of images where there is an unrelated image in the file history, one of them is a copyright violation anyway so we rarely are going to want both images.) --B (talk) 15:12, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
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File:San Giovanni Lipioni seen from Il Monte mountain(2006).jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:01, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:San Giovanni Lipioni seen from Il Monte mountain(2006).jpg">File:San Giovanni Lipioni seen from Il Monte mountain(2006).jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Benghazi69 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Apparently un-splittable, unused barring one redirect. Meta-data for revisions seems to be in the edit summaries. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 08:17, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
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File:Sign of Albertaco&
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:01, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Sign of Albertaco&#39;s in the Cypress location.JPG">File:Sign of Albertaco& ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Glynnpeters ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Aparrently un-splittable, Only used in user space, intervening image is 2D artwork (and thus not necessarily subject to FoP exemptions.) ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 08:18, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete both No FOP for signs. --Stefan2 (talk) 11:08, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
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File:Picture 172.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:01, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Picture 172.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Aldapies ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Apparently un-splittable,  Information for original upload is apparently only on the file description page for that upload. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 08:21, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
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File:Gabolandpm.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:01, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Gabolandpm.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Balochworld ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Image of living persons. need permission via OTRS. the uploader has submitted many copyvios. Saqib (talk) 10:08, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete, orphaned with questionable licensing. Salavat (talk) 05:49, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
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File:Pirma.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:01, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Pirma.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Craver ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Photo of unidentified subject with unclear permission. Stefan2 (talk) 11:34, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete, orphaned with questionable licensing. Salavat (talk) 05:49, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
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File:Goniatite drawing.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:01, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Goniatite drawing.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Dlloyd ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Technically un-sourced, but pre 2006 upload and in use, Hence FFD referal ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 12:43, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
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File:Stevan Harnad.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: keep. Withdrawn by nom in favour of alternative forums of discussion. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 03:02, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Stevan Harnad.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Elseware ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Various portrait images, claimed GFDL, but technically unsourced or lacking in ways to confirm that license. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 12:44, 17 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Withdrawn - The most recent uploader, who I'd reached out to left an Own work tag for the more recent revisions, so the FFD can be withdrawn. The issue of the previous revisions can be handled in a different discussion.ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 21:50, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
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File:Pir Saqib Shaami.jpeg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:01, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Pir Saqib Shaami.jpeg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Ejaz92 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

This is a photo of a person who does not have a corresponding article. For the last three years, there have been various and sundry attempts to turn the image description page into an article. The person depicted seems very possibly notable and the photo would even be potentially useful in an article about this person. The problem is, however, that it appears to be Flickrwashing. The source given is a Flickr account with two images, one of which is clearly a screenshot from a video of some sort. It was uploaded to Flickr two days before it was uploaded here. It is highly unlikely that the license is valid. B (talk) 13:15, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete, orphaned with no obvious value. Salavat (talk) 05:50, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
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File:TREX 600 NSP.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Missing evidence of permission. Please follow WP:DCP to get the file restored - F ASTILY   00:13, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
 * File:TREX 600 NSP.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Leeph ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Image description page says "Photographer: Paul Chapman" but gives no indication whether Paul Chapman is the uploader or someone else. This is a very nice photo and it would be nice if we could keep it. (Unfortunately, the uploader does not have email enabled.) B (talk) 13:30, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

I am the uploader - leeph and the helicopter pictured as the subject of the image is my property. The photographer Paul Chapman is an aeromodeller friend of mine. I don't fully understand your message about the photo 'it would be nice if we could keep it' without letting me know why it is that you might *not* be able to keep it?

I'm afraid I am a novice Wikipedia user and therefore I am not au fait with your processes and policies, and I am assuming that this has been flagged for lacking the appropriate copyright statement/permission for use. Please advise what you need me to do. I can obtain written permission from the photographer if needed.

leeph (talk) 14:44, 17 September 2018 (BST)


 * Please read WP:COPYREQ which will explain how to confirm the permission.ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 13:49, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
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File:RichardKillblane1.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:01, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
 * File:RichardKillblane1.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Killblane ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Purportedly a photo of Richard E. Killblane with no real source (I'm not sure if it is him or not). It was obviously taken by a US service member, but we would need to know that it was taken in his official duties, not just while he was taking photos for fun. There is an unquestionably PD photo of him at https://www.army.mil/article/178622/rpoe_deployments_to_be_documented that we can use, so unless we can get clarification, I don't know that we need this one. B (talk) 15:25, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
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File:StonerFunniesCover.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:01, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
 * File:StonerFunniesCover.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Etzedek24 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

I improperly uploaded this as PD, this issue is one of several that are not PD in the series due to reprints of newspaper comics still in copyright. Etzedek24 (I'll talk at ya) (Check my track record) 16:08, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
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File:Bridge Street under water 6 September 2008.JPG
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:01, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Bridge Street under water 6 September 2008.JPG">File:Bridge Street under water 6 September 2008.JPG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Tzdelski ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Presumed own work, and in use hence FFD referral. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 16:42, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
 * The same user uploaded File:Oliver's Mill 7 March 1963.jpg one minute later and tagged it with the same GFDL tag (and no further comment), when it's very dubious that they created this later image. Then ten minutes later, they uploaded File:High Ford Weir 14 September 2008.jpg, which has a very clear statement of authorship and contains EXIF data.  So I think it's pretty clear that this image is a copyvio.  Deleted. --B (talk) 23:45, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:01, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
 * File:SWIMflag2.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Smac02155 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unused, purpose or link to notable subject unclear. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 17:09, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete, orphaned with no obvious value. Salavat (talk) 05:52, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
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File:Elon Musk&
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The result of the discussion was: relisted on. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:20, 30 September 2018 (UTC)


 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Elon Musk&#39;s submarine.jpg">File:Elon Musk& ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs])
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File:Brian0918 colors.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:01, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Brian0918 colors.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Brian0918 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unused Wikipedia screenshot ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 18:43, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete, orphaned with no obvious value. Salavat (talk) 05:52, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
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File:Oswald dome fire tower sign.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: delete As said below, this is a derivative work of the copyrighted sign. The text of an historical marker can be used as a citation without a photo of it being stored on wiki. Obviously, if it is something controversial, evidence would be nice, but this isn't really something that will stir up controversy. And I suppose if someone challenges this, an administrator can look at the deleted revision. --B (talk) 23:39, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Oswald dome fire tower sign.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Bneu2013 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Photo of third party artwork with separate copyright ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 19:11, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep - I took the photo with my phone. I am currently using it as a citation. Bneu2013 (talk) 22:56, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per violation of own work: "Own work: You own all rights to the image, usually meaning that you created it entirely yourself. In case of a photograph or screenshot, you must also own the copyright for all copyright-protected items (e.g. statue or app) that appear in it". Uploader admits that they do not own the copyright of the photographed subject. – <b style="color:SlateBlue">FenixFeather</b> (talk) (Contribs) 23:43, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete, orphaned with questionable licensing. Salavat (talk) 05:53, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
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