Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2019 June 13



File:Arthur Henry Cheatle (1866-1929).jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:02, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
 * File:Arthur Henry Cheatle (1866-1929).jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Aymatth2 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

A free portrait is now available: File:Arthur Henry Cheatle. Photograph by the London Stereoscopic Wellcome V0026146.jpg. Seeing that this file is published over 100 years ago, it could be moved to Commons perhaps? Deadstar (talk) 08:42, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I agree with that. It could be tagged with PD-old-assumed, since it is more than 120 years old. It is a thumbnail from King's College Collections, but when I click on it for a larger version, I just get a waiting symbol. Maybe if it is uploaded with a link to the source someone will find the full size picture. Aymatth2 (talk) 12:26, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
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File:SPLC Logo.svg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F8 by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 03:03, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
 * File:SPLC Logo.svg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by RaphaelQS ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Possibly below the threshold of originality in the United States, consists only of text and simple shapes (i.e. lines, circle, triangles, and rectangles) funplussmart (talk) 17:52, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
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File:Peter F C Gilbert.jpg

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 * File:Peter F C Gilbert.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Alexlifelike ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Possible copyright violation, can be found elsewhere funplussmart (talk) 17:57, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
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File:Concha Michel in 1930.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F5 by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:05, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
 * File:Concha Michel in 1930.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by SusunW ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Initially tagged for deletion by as replaceable fair use because File:Concha Michel.jpg exists on Commons. This was contested by with the following rationale: "Proposed image is a Mexican photograph. Mexico uses Life+100. Now, the photographer is Italian.... but had permanently moved to Mexico a year before. If it was published, MAYBE we could use it under PD-US-1923-abroad, but... evidence of its publishing?" The question here is: Can this image be licensed under a free license? ℯ xplicit 23:44, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
 * She was Italian, but by marrying a US citizen she lost her Italian citizenship. Since she was avoiding Italian fascist authorities and US authorities refused to let her enter the US, it is unlikely that Modotti filed for copyright in either of those places. From my understanding, it doesn't matter where it was made unless they filed for copyright protection, it only matters where it was first published. If she had copyright protection it was probably Mexico. Mexican newspapers are not digitized but there is a collection of them available for research in Mexico City. I've not found any images published in the US for Michel.
 * Under the 1982 copyright law, copyright was 50 years after the death of the author. This changed in 1996, but the 1982 copyright law was in effect at the time of the Berne Agreement. All copyrights were restored for the appropriate U.S. term on January 1, 1996 by the URAA, meaning that to use a photo it had to be in the PD in the source country and the US. It has to have been published (not just created) either in the US prior to 1924, or published without compliance with US formalities abroad to be in the PD in both countries. Without knowing whether photographs by Modotti were published, it is impossible to tell if the term is life +70, life + 95 years from the date of publication, or 120 years from creation because it was never published prior to 1996, thus no image for which publication has not been verified should replace this one. SusunW (talk) 13:43, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
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