Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2019 June 22



File:Descent 3 combat.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: keep. Closing old discussion, since I'm here. Looks like the consensus is that this screenshot is acceptable. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 05:22, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
 * File:Descent 3 combat.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Niwi3 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

I see that the file is over 5 years old, but I think that can change.

The file's rationale is that "The image relays information that words cannot as it illustrates the game's distinctive art style and combat." Descent 3, for which the screenshot is used, is notable for vastly advanced and enhanced graphics, but then again, the same could be said about almost every new title. Across the Descent articles, we use one to demonstrate the innovations and what the original Descent looked like, and another for featuring the Guide-Bot. The Guide-Bot was a notable addition to Descent 2, but here in the case of the Descent 3 screenshot, it seems that we are using it for the exact reason as the original, and I could argue that since not every video game article needs a screenshot, we do not need this one here.

A more ideal alternative would be to use a screenshot where the player is outdoors (a notably unique and defining component of Descent 3) and the graphics are full of atmospheric effects (e.g. rain, snow, whatever), while also demonstrating the gameplay and the player attacking enemy robots as the premise of the series. That would make the file and the article more informative. Otherwise, I can only see a little more use out of this file than purely for decoration. I started this FfD to generate a consensus. Gamingforfun 3 6 5 00:05, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment - I don't think it's an issue because the image illustrates the game's art style and how the gameplay is presented, regardless of whether the same could be said about previous titles or not. Gameplay images don't necessarily need to illustrate new features. In fact, the more generic the image is, the better it illustrates the gameplay. In any case, I can always replace it with an image where the player travels over the surface of a planet if it's really an issue. --Niwi3 (talk) 13:30, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:14, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep or replace there is sourced discussion about the gameplay features depicted by this image in the caption and, to a lesser extent, in the body of the relevant section. This image seems fully NFCC-compliant, but sure, it could be replced with another equally compliant one showing one more feature as suggested by the nomination. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 12:05, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep - Non-free use image with valid sourced commentary and rationale. Illustrates the gameplay and the graphics. If you think there is a better screenshot available, then add it or replace it in the article. Stop using FFD as a forum for editorial decisions. - hahnch e n 16:36, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
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File:RCA Bluebird 78 B-11230-B Glenn Miller.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: relisted on. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:30, 20 August 2019 (UTC)


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