Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2020 December 26



File:Secaucus Tran Collision NTSB Photo.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Convert to non-free - F ASTILY   00:10, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
 * File:Secaucus Tran Collision NTSB Photo.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by NJT5119 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

This image, currently tagged PD-USGov, was found in a NTSB report, where it is attributed to Jim Mardiguian. The NTSB site policy states that the agency sometimes places copyrighted photographs in its reports, and therefore we cannot assume this work is public domain. I suggest convert to non-free, unless someone succeeds in finding Mardiguian and getting him to release the photo under a free license. Wikiacc (¶) 02:24, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Convert to non-free per nominator. From what I've been able to find, Jim Mardiguian is a private individual not associated with the NTSB and so the image would appear not to be in the public domain. If someone is interested in making contact, then a person of this name is or was associated with the Stamford Model Rail Road Club. Thryduulf (talk) 21:06, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
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File:Sergei Krikalev s97e5086.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Contested keep local, open for 3 weeks with no arguments to keep local submitted. - F ASTILY   06:59, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
 * File:Sergei Krikalev s97e5086.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Dr.K. ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

I see no reason to keep this file here on En-Wiki, there is a. Ras67 (talk) 02:50, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep - since the image is tagged as, though there is no explanation as to why this should be kept. P,TO 19104 (talk) (contribs) 21:13, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Dr.K. is unfortunately silent to say his reason. What is other here than on Commons? --Ras67 (talk) 23:53, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
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File:Ushtria shqiptare mbreterore.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:01, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
 * File:Ushtria shqiptare mbreterore.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Vinie007 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Insufficient detail provided to verify that this image is in the public domain. Wikiacc (¶) 04:29, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - image is orphaned and the date of author death is not given. Therefore, there is no way to no whether it is PD. P,TO 19104 (talk) (contribs) 21:12, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
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File:Msgr. Higgins.png

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:01, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
 * File:Msgr. Higgins.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Blaney j ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Dubious claim of own work. The photo was taken before 1963 and the file was previously online:. Suggest delete or relicense as non-free. Wikiacc (¶) 05:16, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
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File:Trumangrave.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:01, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
 * File:Trumangrave.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by GBrtncn ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

I am unable to verify that this photo comes from the Truman Presidential Library, as claimed. Image is unused. Wikiacc (¶) 06:15, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. P,TO 19104 (talk) (contribs) 21:12, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
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File:Dmitry Moor 1941 What have you done to help the front.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:01, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Dmitry Moor 1941 What have you done to help the front.jpg">File:Dmitry Moor 1941 What have you done to help the front.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Stronach ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

This 1941 Dmitry Moor work, from Russia, appears to be copyrighted in the United States. Moor died in October 1946, so his work was still copyrighted in Russia on its URAA date, January 1996, when Russia's copyright term was 50 years pma. Wikiacc (¶) 07:38, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
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File:Mystery of Christ.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:01, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
 * File:Mystery of Christ.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Vanished user 2345 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Dmitry Moor work from "1920s". The URAA reasoning given for its public domain status is flawed (see listing immediately above), and so I believe it is copyrighted in the US. (Listed separately because there is a possibility this work might be from before 1925, and is also unused.) Wikiacc (¶) 07:41, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
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Stand by Me (Ben E. King song) primary identity
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The result of the discussion was: delete File:"Stand by Me" by Ben E King US vinyl 1986 re-release.png. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 05:13, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:&#34;Stand by Me&#34; by Ben E King US vinyl Side-A.png">File:& ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by George Ho ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).


 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:&#34;Stand by Me&#34; by Ben E King US vinyl 1986 re-release.png">File:& ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by George Ho ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

The original 1961 release(s) of "Stand by Me" charted well in the US and all right in the UK. However, the song either didn't chart in other countries, or I could not find other charts listing the original release. The song then has been covered by other artists. The 1986 film helped Ben E. King's original version receive much wider, global attention than the original 1961 release did (or didn't). Sure, the original release was successful in the US, but the 1986 re-release of the original version (helped by the film) was much more successful.

I uploaded a side label of the original 1961 US single release in order to replace a cover art of a compilation album misidentified as one of single releases. Then I uploaded the picture sleeve of 1986 re-release because a cover art, as I figured, may have mass appeal. Now I'm uncertain which one complies more with WP:NFCC, which wants an image to be contextually significant in an article. WP:NFC (guideline) recommends just one primary identifier, but WP:GUIDES encourages common sense and make some exceptions. (WP:NFCC wouldn't matter much because both images are identified as belonging to different releases and are not similar to each other.)

If original release is the standard and more preferable, then let's keep the side label of the 1961 US release. On the other hand, if a cover art is more appealing, and/or if a wider, more successful release is more preferable, then let's go for the picture sleeve of the 1986 re-release. However, let's keep both if both are too significant to be deleted. George Ho (talk) 19:52, 26 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete rerelease - all that is necessary is one fair use image in order to get the big picture (per #8 and #3). P,TO 19104 (talk) (contribs) 21:12, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete rereleases – agree with the above. – zmbro (talk) 00:40, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
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File:Stand by me by ben e king 1987 Levi&
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The result of the discussion was: delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 05:12, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Stand by me by ben e king 1987 Levi&#39;s European single.png">File:Stand by me by ben e king 1987 Levi& ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by George Ho ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

I uploaded a standard artwork for European (re-)release of Ben E. King's original version of "Stand by Me" as a secondary image for the lead infobox. The picture sleeve references one of Levi's jeans commercials and is different from the other picture sleeve displaying a screenshot of the 1986 film. However, I have been uncertain whether the Levi's jeans cover art complies with the "contextual significance" criterion (#8). The Levi's cover art was given to most Europeans in the 1980s, especially in the United Kingdom, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Levi's cover art is deleted due to criterion #8. The cover art may meet criterion #3a (minimal number of items), nonetheless. George Ho (talk) 20:06, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - rereleases album covers don't need to be included - all that is necessary is one cover per NFCC#8 and NFCC#3. Similar to Miss Anthropocene album covers: Files for discussion/2020 December 22. P,TO 19104 (talk) (contribs) 21:12, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Umm... may you please find a better example than the FFD discussion you cited? That discussion is still ongoing; to this date, the rest of majority disagrees with you and favors keeping just two (standard) covers. George Ho (talk) 06:34, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I was referring to my personal vote, not necessarily the discussion outcome. I doubt that all of the covers will be kept, is my point. P,TO 19104 (talk) (contribs) 14:25, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
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