Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2020 July 28



File:Joy of learning.JPG

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  03:04, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
 * File:Joy of learning.JPG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Progedu ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

The author of the original photograph (and their year of death) is not indicated. Leyo 13:07, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - Own work claim is invalid, we don't know the author, publishing date, or date of death. Wouldn't pass NFCC #8 (context) if converted to non-free. Delete. Hog Farm Bacon 01:11, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
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File:Unofficial flag of the Collectivity of Saint Martin.gif

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F3 by AnomieBOT ⚡  04:05, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
 * File:Unofficial flag of the Collectivity of Saint Martin.gif ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Kenwick ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

According to the statement, the image can use "for non-commercial and non-political purposes only." Therefore, it's not an acceptable license. This is  Taiwania Justo  speaking (Reception Room) 17:20, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Non-commercial license makes the image unusable, and I can see a reasonable case of a free equivalent being found/created, so NFCC would not be met if converted to non-free. Hog Farm Bacon 20:02, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep - Wikipedia is not a commercial or political website, its contents cannot be redistributed with any commercial or political purposes. The original author and the website have both released their work for free use. 2001:8003:9008:1301:C5E1:85C7:734C:A156 (talk) 06:51, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
 * The acceptable license of Wikipedia must allow the commercial use and do not has any restrictions. This is  Taiwania Justo  speaking (Reception Room) 07:48, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Where can we find the licensing policy of Wikipedia files? 2001:8003:9008:1301:C5E1:85C7:734C:A156 (talk) 08:48, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
 * See WP:NFC. Wikiacc (¶) 02:41, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep, per the IP user. Kenwick (talk) 05:17, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete, no evidence provided for public domain claim, and the original site's conditions violate F3. Wikiacc (¶) 02:41, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
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File:Mars Global Remote Sensing Orbiter and Small Rover (2020).png

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The result of the discussion was: keep. Stifle (talk) 13:04, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 * File:Mars Global Remote Sensing Orbiter and Small Rover (2020).png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Spotty's Friend ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Originally nominated for deletion as di-replaceable fair use due to the existence of Category:Tianwen-1 and Category:Mars Global Remote Sensing Orbiter and Small Rover. Deletion was contested here. Bringing to discussion as a neutral party. Pinging and. Ə XPLICIT 23:40, 28 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep – this image satisfies WP:NFCC since there are no free alternatives that depict what is in this picture, and there will not be any more opportunities for free images to be created since the spacecraft launched last week. As the nom mentions, there are related free images available on Commons, some of which are currently being used on the Tianwen-1 article, however none of them show the actual spacecraft. There are images of a mockup of the rover that China showed off at a conference, which is a great free alternative to an image of the real rover, but this is a complicated mission and the rover is just one small component. There is also a lander and orbiter that are much bigger, and I worry that showing only an image of the rover in the article could mislead readers into thinking that the rover is the complete mission if they do not read the article carefully. The nominated image is the only image that has been released of the complete spacecraft, showing all the components of the mission. I think this image clearly satisfies WP:NFCC as its "presence would significantly increase readers' understanding of the article topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding". This image makes it much easier for a reader to quickly understand the size and scope of the mission and see what the spacecraft actually looks like. A free alternative that shows what is in that image does not exist, and, since the spacecraft is now in space on its way to Mars, taking new images is impossible. -- Yarnalgo talk 17:24, 28 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep - I uploaded the original image under discussion in late 2019; the image has since been lowered in resolution and cropped to better comply with the minimal-usage requirement WP:NFCC. At the time of the original up-load, the referenced photograph was apparently the first photographic image released by the CNSA of the entire Tiamwen-1 spacecraft in its cruise configuration. Since the time of the original upload, I have seen other photos and artistic depictions of the entire spacecraft; however, such subsequent works apparently also belong to either CNSA and/or news organizations/individual artists (that is, they also are non-free.) Also, I have not seen a Creative-Commons-licensed depiction of the entire spacecraft so far. For these reasons, I think the referenced image continues to satisfy WP:NFCC at this time. There are currently two other images on the Tianwen-1 Wiki page; but they do not depict the spacecraft as a whole in its cruise configuration (the two images consist a user photo of the Tianwen-1 rover's down-scaled mockup and another CC-licensed photo of the Long March 5 rocket that launched the spacecraft [but not the spacecraft itself.]) Unlike the United States' Mars 2020 spacecraft which consists mainly of the Perseverance rover itself, China's Tianwen-1 spacecraft, in its cruise configuration, consists of an orbiter attached to thermal atmospheric-entry shield that encloses the lander and the attached rover; the referenced photo significantly aids readers in understanding the scale and configuration of Tianwen-1 spacecraft (which although descriptively similar to US' old Viking Mars spacecrafts, differ significantly from them in appearance.) For all these reasons, I second User:Yarnalgo's opinion above. Spotty&#39;s Friend (talk) 01:15, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
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