Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2020 June 18



File:Derek Chauvin mugshot.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: speedy delete under WP:CSD, see. To discuss the original closure, please contact the deleting admin of the previous discussion. Ə XPLICIT 00:07, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * File:Derek Chauvin mugshot.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Kebabpizza ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Was nominated for deletion as replaceable fair use (WP:NFCC), but was contested with the following rationale: "Subject is currently in custody, and likely to remain so indefinitely, and so unavailable for further photography. Nor is the subject, his friends, or his family likely to be inclined to release an existing image." Brought to FFD for further discussion as a neutral party. Ə XPLICIT 00:03, 18 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete Mainly per WP:MUG. I suspect other non-free photos will become available as his case works through the courts. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 06:17, 18 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep The article about Chauvin needs a picture of him. Sadly, there are no other acceptable-quality images available of him, except for the mug shots. Kebabpizza (talk) 06:20, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 * No article "needs" a picture. Wikipedia is not the only website on the internet, and if someone wants to see a picture where there is not a freely licensed one available, they can always go to another site for one. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 07:27, 21 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete Fails WP:MUG and fails WP:NFCC and WP:NFCC due to failing WP:MUG. Image is replaceable. The criteria for meeting Non-free is very stringent--there has to be no free alternative, and no possibility that a free one will be released in the future, and the fact that there are images of Derek Chauvin that could be released under a free license, or in the future (perhaps future courthouse appearances) means it fails the image use criteria and should be removed. Tutelary (talk) 02:30, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
 * In addition, it looks like it would also fail WP:NFCC, since a mugshot does not significantly increase readers' understanding of the article topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding. Removing the mugshot from the article would not be detrimental to the users' understanding of the article topic. Tutelary (talk) 15:07, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep I don't see how WP:MUG applies, the image does not show Chauvin in a false or disparaging light. As a result WP:NFCC does not apply. In re WP:NFCC: Can the delete-voters suggest an alternative? Mouthpity (talk) 07:54, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
 * The point of MUG is that mugshots are inherently problematic without a conviction. NFCC#1 does not require a file to be immediately available. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 08:33, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
 * MUG: Not per my reading. The actual phrasing of "This is particularly important for [mugshots]" is very different from something like "This applies to all mugshots". To be frank, this is a far cry from a mugshot of a drunk guy with a black eye.
 * NFCC#1: If the image is not yet available, it must satisfy "could be created". I think this is unlikely seeing as Chauvin is detained. Mouthpity (talk) 15:01, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete as an image of a living person, regardless of whether a mugshot would be appropriate for this page. -BRAINULATOR9 (TALK) 20:24, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete for pretty much the same reasons that the same image was previously deleted per Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2020 June 4. Chauvin is still living and likely to undergo a very public trial where it seems reasonable to expect that a free equivalent image can be created. It doesn't have to be created to today or by anyone in particular, but the possibility does seem reasonable at least until a trial is completed. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:22, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
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File:Widowmaker by Amiris4X.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  07:04, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 * File:Widowmaker by Amiris4X.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Thesfmcollection ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Fails WP:NFCC 8 - Not critical to the understanding of the topic of the article.

Likely also fails NFCC 1 - the sheer amount of Overwatch pornography suggests that, were one to spend time asking artists, it's feasible that someone would agree to release an item under a free license. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 06:13, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
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File:Jrwest-amagasaki.png

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  07:04, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 * File:Jrwest-amagasaki.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by F ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

The file shows the screenshot of JR West's homepage, in order to show the importance of Amagasaki derailment to the company. However, there also exists a statement of the company at. As quotes from the statement can be used, the file may violate WP:NFCC and WP:NFCC, and should be deleted. 廣九直通車 (talk) 06:35, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
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