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File:First Millennium First COA Landi.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  23:01, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
 * File:First Millennium First COA Landi.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by 036386536a ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphaned; no apparent use. — Pbrks (talk) 00:59, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
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File:Aquitania scrap Faslane.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  13:35, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
 * File:Aquitania scrap Faslane.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Angelgreat ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Non-free image of a ship being scrapped. That the ship was scrapped is adequately described with text, and there is no significant sourced commentary about the image. Fails WP:NFCC and WP:NFCC. Whpq (talk) 02:12, 12 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep: The image is one of the few remaining images of her. The source of the image comes from the same source as the File:Aquitania in her twilight years.jpg and shares the same copyright info with those images. Please do not delete them. Angelgreat (talk) 02:34, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Few? c:Category:Aquitania (ship, 1914) is full of free images of the ship. -- Whpq (talk) 02:58, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete: As pointed out by the nominator, there are quite a number of free images of the ship found in c:Category:Aquitania (ship, 1914) and a number of these are actually being used in RMS Aquitania which means a non-free one isn't really needed for identification purposes. Moreover, there doesn't really seem to be a contextual need for an non-free photo of the ship as she looked upon scapping per WP:NFCC (WP:NFC) unless there's something about the photo itself which became the subject of critical commentary in reliable sources either at the time or in the years sine then that can be added to the article. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:43, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * The photo shows the end of the last four funnel liner and how her hull was repainted prior to.her final voyage. The image will only be used in the page that depicts the vessel, so please do not delete it.Angelgreat (talk) 13:22, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete The image itself is not the subject of cited critical commentary. There's plenty of other images of her, and a non-descript image during her scrapping is of no particular use that, as Whpq noted, can't be described in text. She was scrapped. We know that. An image of her during scrapping doesn't help explain that. --Hammersoft (talk) 22:49, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Source does not appear legitimate. UK copyright applies unless prior to 1911. I see nothing particularly encyclopedic about this unless it is describing something noteworthy that we're missing. Buffs (talk) 15:07, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete as argued above. The image is too grainy to show her late career livery. There are images of the ship in her better days as the Ship Beautiful. Scrapping is the ultimate fate of almost all ships. Blue Riband► 04:24, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete, the article already contains plenty of free images, so clearly fails NFCC #1. Seraphimblade Talk to me 05:50, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
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File:Olympic scrap Jarrow.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  13:35, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
 * File:Olympic scrap Jarrow.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Angelgreat ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Non-free image of a ship being scrapped. That the ship was scrapped is adequately described with text, and there is no significant sourced commentary about the image. Fails WP:NFCC and WP:NFCC. Whpq (talk) 02:13, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep: The image is one of the few remaining images of her. The source of the image comes from the same source as the File:Aquitania in her twilight years.jpg and File:Aquitania scrap Faslane.jpg and shares the same copyright info with those images. Please do not delete them. Angelgreat (talk) 02:35, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Few? c:Category:Olympic (ship, 1910, Belfast)) is full of free images of the ship. -- Whpq (talk) 02:59, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete: As pointed out by the nominator, there are quite a number of free images of the ship found in c:Category:Olympic (ship, 1910, Belfast), unless those are of a different ship; moreover, there are 15 or 16 such images currently being used in RMS Olympic which means a non-free one isn't really needed for identification purposes. A image of the ship as she looked upon scrapping might seem like a nice way to bookend the article; however, there doesn't really seem to be a contextual need for such an image per WP:NFCC (WP:NFC) unless there's something about the photo itself which became the subject of critical commentary in reliable sources either at the time or in the years sine then that can be added to the article. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:37, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * The photo shows the end of the last Olympic class vessel and how she was during her end. The image will only be used in the page that depicts the vessel, so please do not delete it.Angelgreat (talk) 13:23, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete As with File:Olympic scrap Jarrow.jpg above, the image itself is not the subject of cited critical commentary. There's plenty of other images of her, and a non-descript image during her scrapping is of no particular use that, as Whpq noted, can't be described in text. She was scrapped. We know that. An image of her during scrapping doesn't help explain that. --Hammersoft (talk) 22:49, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Deleteas it doesn't add Contextual Significance as described in WP:NFCCP. The hull can hardly even be recongnzed. Blue Riband► 04:15, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete, the article contains plenty of free images, so clearly fails NFCC #1. Seraphimblade Talk to me 05:51, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
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File:HelenaBrewersCapLogo.PNG

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The result of the discussion was: keep nominated file, delete the other. ✗ plicit  12:36, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
 * File:HelenaBrewersCapLogo.PNG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by NatureBoyMD ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Was part of an overly bundled discussion several months ago that closed as a trainwreck. While I think cap logos can serve as a means of primary identification, the only difference between this logo and the main one is that the colors of the background and the H are swapped. With no separate commentary over the cap logo, I'm concerned that it's too similar to the primary logo to meet NFCC. Hog Farm Talk 05:58, 3 August 2021 (UTC)don't really justify us  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Tagging File:Helena Brewers Logo.PNG for deletion per discussion.
 * Delete one of the two, but not exactly quite sure which one. As pointed out by the nominator, two of basically the same non-free file aren't really needed per WP:NFCC and the minor differences between the two per don't really justify using them both per WP:NFCC. The question then is which of the two is the one that should be kept. The team's official website (at least the link in Helena Brewers) seems to be redirect to another website for the new incarnation of the team, but an old 2011 archived version seen here seems to show only the team logo (but that just could be a quirk of the archiving). Personally, I think the white "H" on the dark blue background is a bit easier on the eyes than the dark blue "H" on the white background; so, all other things being equal, I would suggest keeping the cap logo and deleting the team logo. That's just my personal opinion though and not related to the WP:NFCC in any way. -- Marchjuly (talk) 13:20, 3 August 2021 (UTC); [Note: !Vote edited by Marchjuly to cleanup and clarify the wording a bit. Changed parts are underlined and strikenthrough. -- 06:26, 12 August 2021 (UTC)]

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  03:22, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep File:HelenaBrewersCapLogo.PNG and delete File:Helena Brewers Logo.PNG. Perhaps its my eyesight which isn't the best int he world, but I concur with Marchjuly on which is easier on the eyes. -- Whpq (talk) 03:34, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Closer should just use their best judgement and delete one. The fact that one needs deleted should take precedent over indecision on which specific one. --Elephanthunter (talk) 17:24, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
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File:Atlantic-Nino-SST-SSH-Surface-Wind-and-Rainfall-Anomalies.png

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  23:01, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
 * File:Atlantic-Nino-SST-SSH-Surface-Wind-and-Rainfall-Anomalies.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Sklee621 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Appears to have been lifted from this publication, which was published two months prior to the local upload date. There is no evidence of a free license or permission from the author(s). ✗ plicit  05:12, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete, orphaned with questionable licensing. Salavat (talk) 15:07, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
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File:Fire Extinguishing Trades Association FETA logo.png
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  13:35, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Fire Extinguishing Trades Association FETA logo.png">File:Fire Extinguishing Trades Association FETA logo.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Pbrks ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

This is used on Fire Industry Association. This probably doesn't meet WP:NFCC, however, as the organization was founded in 1916 it's possible this logo was published before 1926. If this could be proven to be the case, it would be eligible for PD-USonly. I tried searching for it myself but personally wasn't able to date this logo at all. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 07:41, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete unless a pre-1926 publication date can be verified. The nonfree rationale states that the image is for use in the infobox, but the current logo is now used there, so older logos are redundant and unnecessary. Seraphimblade Talk to me 05:52, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
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File:ACS Viitorul Șelimbăr logo.png
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  23:01, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:ACS Viitorul Șelimbăr logo.png">File:ACS Viitorul Șelimbăr logo.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Rhinen ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Licensed as PD-textlogo, but this logo is clearly complex enough to be subject to copyright. Converting to fair use would not address the matter as it is not being used in the CSC 1599 Șelimbăr infobox, but in its history section. Such use of non-free items would not comply with WP:NFCC, particularly WP:NFC: "The use of historical logos for an entity is not allowed, unless the historical logo itself is described in the context of critical commentary about that historical logo." The only option is to delete. ✗ plicit  14:36, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 13:46, 15 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. GiantSnowman 13:47, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete, too complex to be PD-textlogo and no reason to use as a nonfree. Seraphimblade Talk to me 05:54, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
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File:Zupan&
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  23:01, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Zupan&#39;s Markets logo.jpg">File:Zupan& ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Graeme Bartlett ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphaned, superseded by File:Zupan's Markets logo.svg. ✗ plicit  14:49, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete, redundant to SVG file. Salavat (talk) 15:09, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
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File:GAcolor3002cm.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  23:01, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
 * File:GAcolor3002cm.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Sfterry ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphaned; superseded by File:Genetic Alliance logo.png. — Pbrks (talk) 14:58, 12 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete Per nomination --Elephanthunter (talk) 17:44, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
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File:General American Transportation Corporation logo.gif
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  23:01, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:General American Transportation Corporation logo.gif">File:General American Transportation Corporation logo.gif ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Faceless Enemy ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphaned; superseded by File:GATX Logo.svg. — Pbrks (talk) 18:34, 12 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete Per nomination --Elephanthunter (talk) 17:45, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:02, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
 * File:GlenmarkLogo.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by KuwarOnline ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphaned; superseded by File:Glenmark Pharmaceuticals logo.png. — Pbrks (talk) 22:27, 12 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete Per nomination --Elephanthunter (talk) 17:46, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete, redundant to PNG file. Salavat (talk) 11:35, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
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