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File:Art of Animation Hall.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Textbook derivative of non-free content; there is no FOP for 2D works in the US. - F ASTILY   23:27, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
 * File:Art of Animation Hall.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Jayron32 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Per COM:FOP US, there is no freedom of panorama in the United States for 2D artwork. ✗ plicit  03:58, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose This is a drastic misreading of that link, which explains explicitly how the copyright of this photograph belongs to the photographer, and links to the US code which specifically says so. Note that private property can be a public space, if said property is open to the general public, regardless of whether or not entrance conditions (such as the terms of a usage agreement, or the collection of a fee) apply. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants   Tell me all about it.  18:22, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I believe 's argument is agnostic of whether this is public or private land. The link they provided (COM:FOP US) explains US Freedom-of-Panorama US exception for architecture, and then continues: For artworks, even if permanently installed in public places, the U.S. copyright law has no similar exception, and any publication of an image of a copyrighted artwork thus is subject to the approval of the copyright holder of the artwork. The above image is substantially just a photo of 2D artwork. So regardless of whether the image was taken on public or private land, the image is still subject to copyright restrictions. --Elephanthunter (talk) 16:22, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
 * You are categorically wrong that it is "substantially just a photo of 2d artwork": I can see a family, roads, sidewalks, planters, windows, and the profile of the building, all very clearly. The artwork in question collectively comprises less than 25% of the image.
 * It is a photograph of a building. The fact that the building has artwork on it doesn't change that, unless the photo is cropped to the artwork. Even then, it's debatable. The building was clearly designed to incorporate that artwork, making it arguably (and I'd bet money this argument would win) part of the architecture, the same way that trim paint would be.
 * Look at an image like File:Times square at night.jpg. Who owns the copyright? The photographer? Not according to your argument. Swatch? Maybe. Juicy Couture? Nelly? I mean, it's "substantially just a photo of 2d artwork", isn't it? Ads aren't exempt from copyright laws. Does the USPS own the copyright to File:Times Square New York City FLIKR 8 One Times Square looking up.jpg because it depicts mostly ads for the USPS?
 * Furthermore, when one finds the Disney World policy page, one can find that their only mention of guest photography is the prohibitions of:
 * Photography, videotaping or recording of any kind, or otherwise engaging in any activity, for unapproved commercial purposes.
 * Note the qualifier. In legal terms, this means photography, videotaping and recording of any kind which is not for unapproved commercial purposes is permitted. This is the "approval of the copyright holder of the artwork".
 * Also note how Disney doesn't try to claim the copyright on photographs of their park. Contrast that with The Disney World Photopass T&Cs, where they explicitly claim copyright to any photograph taken by their Photopass service (cameras pre-installed in the parks). The lack of such a claim in their policies is legally notable: They're tacitly, and legally acknowledging that photographs taken within the park are copyrighted by the photographer, not Disney. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants   Tell me all about it.  12:50, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
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File:Asikuma-Odoben-Brakwa District logo.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:00, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
 * File:Asikuma-Odoben-Brakwa District logo.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by MarkMysoe ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphaned jpg file with non-photographic data. — Pbrks (talk) 04:26, 29 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete Appears to be replaced with with File:Asikuma-Odoben-Brakwa_District_logo.png --Elephanthunter (talk) 16:24, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
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File:Depth26Cisotherm.gif

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 01:00, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
 * File:Depth26Cisotherm.gif ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Thegreatdr ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Replaced with c:File:Depth26Cisotherm.png. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 08:15, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete, redundant to PNG file. Salavat (talk) 15:01, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
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File:Don Bosco.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 01:00, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
 * File:Don Bosco.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Peggyzack ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

The statement on the file page is "Image provided by Matthew Bogdanos, and licensed under the GFDL". Matthew Bogdanos is the subject and this isn't a selfie. This file wouldn't be covered by c:Commons:Grandfathered old files either as it was uploaded on 5 April 2007, so at least we'd have to tag it as Do not move to Commons. I feel divided over this one, but think there's too much uncertainty to keep it. (we don't even know who the author is) — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 13:54, 29 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete Not knowing the photographer alone isn't enough to delete, but since there is a more provably free commons image I am leaning towards delete. --Elephanthunter (talk) 05:39, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
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File:Matthew Bogdanos in Iraq (April 2003).jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:00, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
 * File:Matthew Bogdanos in Iraq (April 2003).jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Peggyzack ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Statement "Image provided by Matthew Bogdanos, and licensed under the GFDL", uploaded on 17 April 2007, see above. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 13:57, 29 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Comment Is this possibly grandfathered in? I am a little confused by the usage on this user page and the apparent equivalency between this and File:iraq.jpg. Not sure how to access the file history in a way to see what files were changed how. --Elephanthunter (talk) 06:03, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
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File:Asutifi District Assembly logo.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:00, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
 * File:Asutifi District Assembly logo.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by MarkMysoe ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphaned; no apparent use. — Pbrks (talk) 15:31, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
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File:Austin Regional Clinic logo.png
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:00, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
 * File:Austin Regional Clinic logo.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Cook's Kitchen ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphaned logo from deleted article Austin Regional Clinic. — Pbrks (talk) 17:00, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete, orphaned with no obvious value. Salavat (talk) 02:51, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
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File:Love Train - O&
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The result of the discussion was: relisted on. ✗ plicit  02:35, 6 August 2021 (UTC)


 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Love Train - O&#39;Jays.jpg">File:Love Train - O& ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs])
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File:Barkercollege.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:00, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
 * File:Barkercollege.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Loopla ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Not used in any article; superseded by File:Barkercollege.png. — Pbrks (talk) 21:41, 29 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete The new transparent PNG version is sufficiently superior, although sadly a lower resolution. I left a comment on the new file talk page because the source information appears incorrect. --Elephanthunter (talk) 04:21, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
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