Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2021 March 21



File:Television-Blank Gen (Live).ogg

 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the media below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:02, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
 * File:Television-Blank Gen (Live).ogg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by DCGeist ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

The sample was recently removed from "punk rock" but is still used in "Blank Generation (song)". The song lasts two minutes and 45 seconds. The sample should have been 10% of the song's length per MOS:SAMPLE, but it exceeds the limit. Even when the sample is shortened, I'm unsure that a 17-second sample is needed other than for mere identification and to rival other music websites. Furthermore, the understanding of the song (by reading the whole article) wouldn't be affected by removal of the sample (WP:NFCC), would it? George Ho (talk) 12:09, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this section.

File:Pay to Cum.ogg

 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the media below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:02, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
 * File:Pay to Cum.ogg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Peter G Werner ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

The sample was recently removed from "punk rock" but is still used in "Hardcore punk" and "Pay to Cum". The song lasts 93 seconds. Per MOS:SAMPLE, the sample should have been 10% of the song's length but then exceeds the limit. Even when shortened, I'm unsure that a nine- or ten-second sample would clearly comply with WP:NFCC and make sense to readers. George Ho (talk) 12:09, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this section.

File:Italian immigrants to Canada via Pier 21.jpg

 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the media below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the discussion was: delete. Seems to be agreement that the file fails NFCC#8 Nthep (talk) 21:52, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
 * File:Italian immigrants to Canada via Pier 21.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Vaselineeeeeeee ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

It doesn't seem to me that this image satisfies WP:NFCC: "Contextual significance. Non-free content is used only if its presence would significantly increase readers' understanding of the article topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding."

If there's more to this image I'd love to hear to it though. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 18:04, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. As I wrote in the purpose file description (and recently expanded), the image is necessary "to illustrate transatlantic Italian immigration to Canada through its most popular port of entry Pier 21 (1928–1971)." The history section at Italian Canadians goes into great depth of the immigration process of this demographic through the most popular port of entry, Pier 21. This image is vital to understand the full scope of that fundamental process in their first steps to their new country. I hope this is now enough to assume good faith and withdraw the nom. Regards, Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 18:19, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I assume good faith but I'm no history expert. I don't feel like the image is really needed to understand the subject at hand (it can be sufficiently conveyed by just text) but that's just my opinion. It seems any historical photo of Italian immigrants on any boat in the period and location would work? Hopefully some more people will weigh in. There are some historical photos in c:Category:Pier 21. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 18:58, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Maybe we'll just have to agree to disagree on the text vs image part. The article details the voyage by text, but what it can't convey is the conditions and atmosphere of the voyage, which the image does. The importance of this part of the history also holds tremendous importance being the first steps of those immigrants in beginning a new life, that gives rise to the very topic that this article is about. That being said, I definitely would've opted for an earlier photo from the 30s or something if such an image existed on the Pier 21 website, but it didn't (only had 1965), and so to be accurate (making sure the image is actually of Italian immigrants to Canada going to Pier 21). The images in the link you provided are not about Italian Canadians. Vaselineeeeeeee</b>★★★ 19:11, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I looked at the licensing though from those images. Perhaps this is a free image since it is from the same cultural heritage site in Canada. You have more experience in these licenses, can you see if it fits this? <b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>★★★ 19:13, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Photos from Canada taken before 1 January, 1949 are in the public domain in Canada. Also if the creator died more than 50 years ago. On English Wikipedia these are not allowed (unless also PD in the US) and on Commons.. it's a long story m'kay? This particular photo is from 1965 so it's not taken before 1949 and the creator probably hasn't kicked the bucket more than 50 years ago yet. Ideally you'd find something from Canada taken before 1949 and published in a U.S. newspaper within 30 days, that would likely be PD-US-not renewed and PD-Canada. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 19:31, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Just found that the people in this image were on route to New Jersey anyway. . So if you wanna get rid of it get rid of it. Unfortunately there are on pictures before 1949 on the Pier 21 site and can't find any good ones that capture the immigration voyage in Canada collection. <b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>★★★ 19:45, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Too bad. Well, regardless of my opinion (which no longer matters now) that means the image no longer has a fair use rationale. I'll just leave this here, an admin will delete the file eventually. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 20:05, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this section.

File:Bios etienne brule.gif
<div class="boilerplate ffd vfd xfd-closed" style="background-color:#f3f9ff; margin:1em 0 0 0; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #aaa;">
 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the media below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:02, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
 * File:Bios etienne brule.gif ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Monster1234567890 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unused and no good info about author or age. MGA73 (talk) 20:09, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete, orphaned with questionable licensing. Salavat (talk) 00:18, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this section.

File:Markethillsudbury.jpg
<div class="boilerplate ffd vfd xfd-closed" style="background-color:#f3f9ff; margin:1em 0 0 0; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #aaa;">
 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the media below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:02, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
 * File:Markethillsudbury.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Renamed user dfghtjd64 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unused photo. Low res. MGA73 (talk) 20:23, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Any reason this can't be exported to Commons? — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 00:40, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * No it could be moved to Commons if someone thinks it is useful. But it is low res and blurry and it is only licensed GFDL and that license makes it harder to reuse. --MGA73 (talk) 06:36, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this section.

File:Fet481bus.JPG
<div class="boilerplate ffd vfd xfd-closed" style="background-color:#f3f9ff; margin:1em 0 0 0; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #aaa;">
 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the media below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:02, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
 * File:Fet481bus.JPG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Renamed user dfghtjd64 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unused photo. MGA73 (talk) 20:23, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Any reason this can't be exported to Commons? — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 00:40, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * No it could be moved to Commons if someone thinks it is useful. If is to illustrate an article about the bus model I would suggest that the picture showed the entire bus. If it is to illustrate bus 481 I would suggest that someone took a photo where it said 481 on the sign. --MGA73 (talk) 06:36, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this section.