Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2021 November 23



File:E Logo small.png

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 12:09, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
 * File:E Logo small.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by 718 Bot ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Non-free logo used within a list, which should be avoided per WP:NFLISTS. —C.Fred (talk) 02:41, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep, but convert to PD-logo: This logo seems simple enough to convert to PD-logo per c:COM:TOO United States since it's basically a combination of two simple elements (a square shape and a script-letter "E") which are not really copyrightable in their own right and the combination they create is also not really eligible for copyright protection in my opinion. So, if the consensus is that this logo is simple enough to be PD then that would mean it's no longer be subject to WP:NFCC and could continue to be used in the list article. If, however, the consensus is that it needs to remain licensed as non-free, then it I agree with the above comment about WP:NFLISTS and that the file's non-free use in the article would not be policy compliant. Most likely the file was uploaded for use in a stand-alone article about Esperanza Drum and Bugle Corps and the non-free use rationale provided at the time would normally be OK in such a case; once the article was redirected to the list article, the justification given for non-free use was no longer applicable and the file's use was no longer policy compliant. Non-free use is not automatic and when articles are merged or redirected into other articles, any non-free content being used therein needs to also be justifiable per relevant policy in the new article or it will need to be deleted if a valid non-free use for it cannot be found. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:49, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
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File:InternetKKsm.png

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 * File:InternetKKsm.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by AQuinapallo ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Non-free logo used within a list, which should be avoided per WP:NFLISTS. —C.Fred (talk) 02:43, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
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File:Oregon Crusaders Drum &

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 * File:Oregon Crusaders Drum & ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by GWFrog ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Non-free logo used within a list, which should be avoided per WP:NFLISTS. Further, there are free images provided of the corps in uniform which can also serve an identifying purpose. —C.Fred (talk) 02:44, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
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File:Sky-Ryders-Logo.png

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 * File:Sky-Ryders-Logo.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Mpgilbertusa ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Non-free logo used within a list, which should be avoided per WP:NFLISTS. —C.Fred (talk) 02:44, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
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File:Thunder Drum and Bugle Corps logo.jpeg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 12:09, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
 * File:Thunder Drum and Bugle Corps logo.jpeg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by GWFrog ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Non-free logo used within a list, which should be avoided per WP:NFLISTS. —C.Fred (talk) 02:45, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment: This logo might be simple enough to convert to PD-logo per c:COM:TOO United States since it's basically a combination of two simple elements (i.e. two colored right triangles with their hypotenuses slightly cut out) which are probably not copyrightable in their own right. The only question mark is whether the combination of the two to create the lighting bolt third-element in the middle might be just creative enough so that together they are eligible for copyright protection. If the consensus is that this logo is simple enough to be PD then that would mean it's no longer be subject to WP:NFCC and could continue to be used in the list article. If, however, the consensus is that it needs to remain licensed as non-free, then it I agree with the above comment about WP:NFLISTS and that the file's non-free use in the article would not be policy compliant. Most likely the file was uploaded for use in a stand-alone article about Thunder Drum and Bugle Corps and the non-free use rationale provided at the time would normally be OK in such a case; once the article was redirected to the list article, the justification given for non-free use was no longer applicable and the file's use was no longer policy compliant. Non-free use is not automatic and when articles are merged or redirected into other articles, any non-free content being used therein needs to also be justifiable per relevant policy in the new article or it will need to be deleted if a valid non-free use for it cannot be found. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:46, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
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File:Lady on glass.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 04:03, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
 * File:Lady on glass.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Rajesh dangi ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Per COM:FOP India, freedom of panorama does not extended to 2D works. There is no evidence that this artwork is subject to PD-India. ✗ plicit  07:23, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination. This would basically be considered a WP:Derivative work in which there are two copyrights to consider: the one for the photo and the one for the subject of the photo. If the uploader is the same person who took the photo, they can release the photo under a free or PD license; however, they still would need the WP:CONSENT of whomever painted the "Lady on glass" in order for this file to be kept. The same file is also being discussed -at c:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Lady on glass.jpg and if Commons can't keep the photo, then it would be hard for Wikipedia to do so as well. Since there's also no freedom of panorama for 2D-works-of-art in the US per c:COM:FOP United States, I don't think there's any way to keep this locally as PD in the US only as well unless someone can clearly establish that the artwork was created prior to January 1, 1978, and was either published without a copyright notice (i.e. PD-US-no notice) or was published with such a notice but copyright wasn't renewed (i.e. PD-US-not renewed). The only other option would then be to treat the file as non-free with a Non-free 2D art added a a copyright license for the artwork and Non-free use rationale 2 added for the rationale; however, given the way the file is currently being used in Mavalli Tiffin Room it would be really hard to justify that the non-free use of the file per WP:NFC and WP:NFG. If the Commons file is kept, there's no need for the same file to be uploaded locally to Wikipedia; if the Commons file isn't kept, then this one cannot also be kept for the same reasons. So, basically, this file will end up deleted regardless of what happens to the Commons file. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:19, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
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File:Equal Dagesh .PNG
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  04:03, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
 * File:Equal Dagesh .PNG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Epson291 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

This file is unused (except in creator's sandbox) while the commons version (File:Hebrew Equal Dagesh.svg) is of better quality and used in 3 en.wiki articles. Gonnym (talk) 11:45, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
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File:John Swinney addresses media over Kilmarnock incidents.png
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  04:03, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:John Swinney addresses media over Kilmarnock incidents.png">File:John Swinney addresses media over Kilmarnock incidents.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Goodreg3 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Image is not needed, as it does not portray the event. It's just someone standing at a podium after the event, and so fails WP:NFCC, as it doesn't significantly increase readers' understanding of the article topic. We also have File:Scene of 2021 Kilmarnock incidents.png, which is a much more relevant image of the actual event, which is much more useful to contextualising the event than a man on a podium <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 15:01, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
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File:Ipl2020IsBack.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  04:03, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
 * File:Ipl2020IsBack.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Daljit8 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unused derivative work of several copyrighted designs. Ixfd64 (talk) 18:21, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete it's a mixture of many logos. We already have File:Ipl2020NewLogo.jpg for the 2020 Indian Premier League logo, and the team logos are already on the correct team articles. There is no article where this derivative work would be an appropriate fair use image. <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 21:15, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
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File:Barney&
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  04:03, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Barney&#39;s film.png">File:Barney& ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Scorpion0422 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Currently used for the infobox of A Star Is Burns. Depicts a scene from Barney Gumble's (short?) movie, but the scene can be easily described by text, making it possibly replaceable per WP:FREER. Furthermore, critical commentary is insufficient enough to support the image, which can also fail WP:NFCC and WP:NFC. George Ho (talk) 19:19, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
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File:CeciliaHighSchoolLA.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  04:03, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
 * File:CeciliaHighSchoolLA.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Falkonry ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

No freedom of panorama for 3D artworks in the United States. Ixfd64 (talk) 20:25, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete: There is actually some (conditional) freedom of panorama for 3D works of art publically installed in the US prior to 1978, but the provenance of this statue isn't immediately clear from Cecilia High School or Cecilia, Louisiana. Depending upon when the statue was first installed, it could possibly be PD-US-no notice or PD-US-not renewed. According to its Wikipedia article, the school might date back to 1922; so, the statue might even be PD-US if the it goes back that far. I couldn't find any listing for this in the Smithsonian Art Inventories Catalog, but perhaps someone else can figure out when it was installed. The uploader of the photo hasn't edited Wikipedia since the end of July 2017 which means somebody else may have to be clarify when it was installed if they feel the image should be kept; otherwise, this will need to be treated as a WP:Derivative work and can't be kept without the WP:CONSENT of the copyright holder of the statue. There also seems to be no way to convert this to non-free content under a license of Non-free 3D art given the way the file is currently be used. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:29, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
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