Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2021 October 16



File:Chee-soo-form1.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: If you are the copyright holder, please follow this procedure to get the file restored - F ASTILY   09:26, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
 * File:Chee-soo-form1.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Chuangzu ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

The file was originally uploaded as non-free. Later changed to GFDL but per No more GFDL that license is no longer valid after August 1 2021. Besides it is not clear that uploader is copyright holder. MGA73 (talk) 10:40, 16 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete - the NFUR states the image is used with the permission of the publisher. As such, the claim of being the copyright holder by the uploader is clearly false.   No evidence of permission or license from the publisher provided. Whpq (talk) 20:24, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

I am the publisher and the copyright owner, I give permission to use the file.Chuangzu (talk) 20:14, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Do you permit usage for Wikipedia only or for many uses under free license, either Creative Commons license or GFDL or which other license? --George Ho (talk) 20:21, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Given the prior publication, the uploader needs to follow Donating copyrighted materials so this can be verified by WP:VRT. -- Whpq (talk) 00:27, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
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File:Stroke 8 family.gif

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:00, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
 * File:Stroke 8 family.gif ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Jellymen ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Which country is this from? Mercedes-Benz is a German company. Was this first published in Germany? If so, then it's Not-PD-US-URAA. There is no evidence that the photo has been released to the public domain by Mercedes-Benz. Stefan2 (talk) 20:37, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete, orphaned with questionable licensing. Salavat (talk) 07:11, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
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File:Ayatollah Abolghasem Wafi Yazdi.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:00, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
 * File:Ayatollah Abolghasem Wafi Yazdi.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Ali313korosh ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

See. Stefan2 (talk) 20:39, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
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File:Lady Gaga - Applause (Music Sample).ogg

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The result of the discussion was: Textbook WP:NFCC violation. There's clear consensus that the sample is inappropriate for Artpop. For Applause (Lady Gaga song), it was pointed out that the article describes a completely different section of the song that is not included in this sample. That said, anyone is free to upload a section of the song that *is* described by the article - F ASTILY   05:09, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
 * File:Lady Gaga - Applause (Music Sample).ogg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by HĐ ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Currently used at Applause (Lady Gaga song) and Artpop. It was for WP:NFCC concerns, but nomination was withdrawn after improvements on rationale, which would improve compliance with another criterion WP:NFCC IMO. Even with rationale improvements, I don't believe that WP:NFCC/WP:NFC concerns have been yet addressed.

Artpop is an album, and the sample is used at the "Music and lyrics" section. I'm unconvinced that one sample is necessary to help identify the album's music style and theme and that removing the sample would impact such understanding. Furthermore, the section isn't fully about just one song. The article already provides information about the album and its tracks. If a reader wants to listen to the song in order to learn more about the song, he or she can go to the song article about "Applause".

Speaking of the song, I still wonder whether the sample is way too significant to be removed from the song article, even when it's used at the "Recording and composition" section. If so, then I guess the sample belongs at just the song article. George Ho (talk) 21:10, 16 October 2021 (UTC)


 * As I described at Talk:Artpop, the sample fails to demonstrate the characteristics described in the sources. If somone wanted to illustrate a point from those sources, a different part of the song should be uploaded. Binksternet (talk) 21:58, 16 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep for Applause page, remove from Artpop I see the file's caption supported by this at Applause (Lady Gaga song). While somebody could change the Artpop one to match it or perhaps tweak in accordance with Idolator (which says the track "plays like a return to Gaga's days of The Fame"), I feel this is best reserved for the song page in order to minimize the use of non-free audio samples. SNUGGUMS (talk / <b style="color:#009900">edits</b>) 02:10, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Did you notice that none of what is described can be heard in the selected portion of the song? The stuttering synths are at the very beginning of the song, but this section doesn't have 'em. The snare drum hits are also at the beginning but not in the selected portion, which instead has a strange kind of synthetic noise percussion. So the file doesn't work for its caption or its supporting sources, not in the "Applause" song article or the album article. Binksternet (talk) 22:40, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Also, the fact that the song is similar to Gaga's Fame output cannot be conveyed by one audio sample. A simple statement in prose is sufficient to get the idea across. Two audio samples might be able to help the reader, but the source does not specify the exact part of Fame. If someone put together a listening sample of "Applause" and some section of Fame then it would be a violation of WP:NOR, because they would have decided on their own what part of Fame was targeted by the critic. Binksternet (talk) 22:45, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
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Images at John Carter (ER)
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The result of the discussion was: delete. ✗ plicit  00:11, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
 * File:Carterguncongo.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Esprit15d ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).
 * File:Cartermomlimo.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Esprit15d ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).
 * File:Carterkemcongo.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Esprit15d ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

The screenshots/promo images of ER character John Carter are used in the article just for visualization. Previously tagged for deletion a few times, so I'm taking them here. I think the images neither are sufficiently supported by critical commentary nor may meet WP:NFCC. George Ho (talk) 21:23, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
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File:Janis Joplin - Me and Bobby McGee.ogg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:00, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
 * File:Janis Joplin - Me and Bobby McGee.ogg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Esprit15d ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Currently used at Janis Joplin article. The sample just exists but may not improve understanding of what the article says about the singer. I don't think it improves understanding of the song "Me and Bobby McGee" as well if used in the song article. The sample may fail WP:NFCC. George Ho (talk) 21:34, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
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File:Flower (Soundgarden song - sample).ogg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:00, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Flower (Soundgarden song - sample).ogg">File:Flower (Soundgarden song - sample).ogg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by -5- ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Currently used at Chris Cornell, Flower (Soundgarden song), and Ultramega OK. The sample may be insufficiently supported by critical commentary and may fail WP:NFCC. George Ho (talk) 22:10, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
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File:HungerStrike.OGG
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:00, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
 * File:HungerStrike.OGG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by -5- ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Currently used at Chris Cornell, Hunger Strike (song), and Temple of the Dog (album). Even with huge, lengthy quotes, the sample may be insufficiently supported by critical commentary and may fail WP:NFCC. George Ho (talk) 22:17, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
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File:Coldplay - Clocks.ogg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:00, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
 * File:Coldplay - Clocks.ogg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Esprit15d ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Even as the song's identifier, the sample of Clocks (song) may be insufficiently supported by sourced critical commentary, regardless of article's length, and may fail WP:NFCC. Furthermore, the sample itself contains just one of the song's verses. George Ho (talk) 22:40, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
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File:Michael Bublé Feeling Good.ogg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:00, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Michael Bublé Feeling Good.ogg">File:Michael Bublé Feeling Good.ogg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Esprit15d ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Currently used at It's Time (Michael Bublé album) and Michael Bublé. Sample insufficiently supported by critical commentary and may fail WP:NFCC, even when used at Feeling Good. George Ho (talk) 22:46, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
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