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File:RandySKraft1989.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  15:46, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
 * File:RandySKraft1989.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Kieronoldham ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

I previously tagged this as di-replaceable fair use, copying the comments from me and the uploader here. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:33, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Infobox image can be replaced by his mugshot, created by the State of California: File:Randy Steven Kraft 2007.jpg. — Preceding unsigned comment added by King of Hearts (talk • contribs) 04:01, September 7, 2021 (UTC)
 * The proposed replacement image depicts the subject almost two decades after his 1989 trial and 24 years after his arrest. The trial of this individual proved to be the most expensive trial in Orange County history at the time. This was the pinnacle in the subject's life as to his notability. Also, the use of a lower-quality portion of this image (which is freely available online and in printed format and uncropped) is not an infringement of any copyright clause. Was also published before March 1989. A concern of mine is that the proposed replacement image may steer new/casual readers into the belief of the subject's life after incarceration and some form of miscarriage of justice (which he has claimed following his 1983 arrest and vociferously since 1989). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kieronoldham (talk • contribs) 04:30, September 7, 2021 (UTC)
 * Our standard for fair-use images of people is very high when a free replacement exists, so I don't think that is sufficient. However, the PD angle is worth exploring. Can you provide evidence that it was published before March 1989? The image description says "taken in Aug. of 1989". -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣<b style="color:black"> ♠</b> 04:37, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I understand. My error when I wrote the image was taken in August of 1989 (that was when he was sentenced to death). The images were taken in early 1989 by one Leo Hetzel. The book Angel of Darkness (which I own a copy of) states this. Here is an April 25 1989 image of the front page of the L.A. Times displaying the image in question. Obv. this is the month after March though. I cannot find an online image verifying if it was taken before March 1. I just believe a more contemporary image would suit the article better. CA government images are in the public domain. Should be easy to find an image of his 1975 or 1983 arrest maybe. Regards, --Kieronoldham (talk) 22:35, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
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File:Kazpost Logo.svg
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The result of the discussion was: No action. Commons version has been nominated for deletion, we can revisit this matter if the Commons copy is kept - F ASTILY   22:40, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
 * File:Kazpost Logo.svg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Mheidegger ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Commons considered this to be "simple". Why is it under NFCC locally? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 08:08, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Link this term please!! Johnbod (talk) 03:48, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
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File:Kingdinosaurposter.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F8 by AnomieBOT ⚡  13:10, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
 * File:Kingdinosaurposter.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Giantdevilfish ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Commons claims this poster art was not renewed, Is this correct? If so F8 may apply. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 08:17, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * It's listed as no notice, not no renewal. The image is too small to see if there is a notice or not. --Stefan2 (talk) 08:44, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * IronGargoyle found a larger version and it appears there was indeed no notice, see c:Commons:Deletion requests/File:King Dinosaur.jpg - F ASTILY   12:02, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
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File:Kyai Haji Masjkur.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F8 by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:05, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
 * File:Kyai Haji Masjkur.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by MyGoogleChrome ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Commons has the licensed as c:Template:PD-IDGov, If correct doesn't F8 apply? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 08:19, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
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File:Kyd self portrait 1931.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Kept local
 * File:Kyd self portrait 1931.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Jack1956 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Attributed to Joseph Clayton Clarke (1857—1937), which would make this Public domain? Why is it under NFCC locally? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 08:21, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep in mind that Wikipedia follows United States copyright law, not United Kingdom copyright law. Under United States copyright law, the copyright expires 95 years after publication, and this is less than 95 years old. --Stefan2 (talk) 08:45, 7 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Perfectly justifiable and acceptable use of the image under the clearly-stated non-free licence as Wikipedia policy: '10 Pictures of deceased persons, in articles about that person, provided that ever obtaining a free close substitute is not reasonably likely.' In many years of searching I have never been able to find a free image of Joseph Clayton Clark. In the public domain in the UK. Jack1956 (talk) 18:44, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
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File:LBC Radio.png
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The result of the discussion was: No action. Commons version has been nominated for deletion, we can revisit this matter if the Commons copy is kept - F ASTILY   22:40, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
 * File:LBC Radio.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Cloudbound ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

This is treated as "simple" on commons, However LBC is Uk based which has a low threshold of originality ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 08:37, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Very unlikely to be in the public domain in the UK. I suggest retagging it as PD-ineligible-USonly. --Stefan2 (talk) 08:46, 7 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Commons version nominated for deletion. Ixfd64 (talk) 17:02, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
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File:LeChatSimenon.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: No action. Commons version has been nominated for deletion, we can revisit this matter if the Commons copy is kept - F ASTILY   22:40, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
 * File:LeChatSimenon.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by GrahamHardy ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Text cover, why is this under NFCC? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 08:41, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Why are Commons trying to delete their one then? Answer me that. Johnbod (talk) 03:51, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
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File:Logo iris.svg
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The result of the discussion was: delete local copy as duplicate of Commons file. Ixfd64 (talk) 16:54, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
 * File:Logo iris.svg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by JoKalliauer ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Other than potentially the stylised R, I am seeing a text logo ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 08:52, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * should be deleted on en.wiki as long as it is on Commons: c:File:Logo_Iris.svg
 * I personally don’t care about the image, I don’t even know why I uploaded it.
 * — <span style="font-family:Trendy, Tempus Sans Itc;">Johannes  Kalliauer  - contrib. 11:25, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
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File:Logo of the Armenian General Benevolent Union.png
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The result of the discussion was: speedy keep withdrawn by nominator. (non-admin closure) Extraordinary Writ (talk) 04:53, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Logo of the Armenian General Benevolent Union.png">File:Logo of the Armenian General Benevolent Union.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Agbu1906 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

This is a text logo, Why is it under NFCC? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 08:52, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * What do you mean? It's listed as a text logo, not as unfree. --Stefan2 (talk) 09:17, 7 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Withdrawn.- This is CSD F8. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 10:26, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
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File:Londres Vichy Pullman.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Relicensed per Stefan2.
 * File:Londres Vichy Pullman.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Nsorelli ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Commons attributes this to Jean-Raoul Chaurand-Naurac (1878-1948). The work of an author who died in 1948 would be out of copyright in UK/EU. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 08:57, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, but Wikipedia follows United States law and in the United States copyright expires 95 years after publication. --Stefan2 (talk) 09:19, 7 September 2021 (UTC)


 *  Relicensed per Stefan2's comments. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 09:51, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
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File:Medietilsynet logo.png
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F8 by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:05, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
 * File:Medietilsynet logo.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Arsenikk ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Commons consider this as simple (despite the stylized M- left). Why is this under NFCC locally? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 09:24, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
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