Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2022 August 5



File:Cerberus logo.png

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:00, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
 * File:Cerberus logo.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Cloudbound ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Delete. Replaced in all uses by vector version. Cloudbound (talk) 00:01, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
 * delete redundant, uncontroversial. Buffs (talk) 18:37, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
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File:Madison Dearborn.png

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:00, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
 * File:Madison Dearborn.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Cloudbound ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unused logo. I removed this from the respective article as it isn't particularly different to the current logo. Cloudbound (talk) 00:13, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep move to commons as PD-text. There's certainly historical reason to keep an older logo. Buffs (talk) 18:39, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
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File:DePelchin Logo.png

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:00, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
 * File:DePelchin Logo.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Cloudbound ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Delete. Unused logo replaced by new PNG. Cloudbound (talk) 00:21, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
 * delete redundant, uncontroversial. Buffs (talk) 18:41, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
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File:EBRD logo (3).png

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:00, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
 * File:EBRD logo (3).png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Vanished 1850 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Delete. I can't see a reason why we should keep this local copy now. Cloudbound (talk) 00:33, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
 * delete redundant, uncontroversial. Buffs (talk) 18:42, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
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File:Karen Millen logo.png

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:00, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
 * File:Karen Millen logo.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Cloudbound ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Delete. Unused logo replaced in all uses by PNG version on Commons. Cloudbound (talk) 00:40, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
 * delete redundant, uncontroversial. Buffs (talk) 18:42, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
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File:Siniristi 1933.png
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The result of the discussion was: Convert to non-free - F ASTILY   05:24, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
 * File:Siniristi 1933.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by RKT7789 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

This was first published in 1933, so PD-old is not valid. It is unclear if any other free license applies. ✗ plicit  01:00, 28 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Someone on commons changed the template to one alluding to Finnish copyright expiry. This happens either 70 years after death of author, or 70 years after publishing for an anonymous work whose author did not become known within that period. In any case it seems fair use would apply here too. ;;  Maddy  ♥︎(they/she)♥︎ ::  talk   12:48, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Fix to a more appropriate PD license or relicense as fair use? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 05:36, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep PD-70 seems to be appropriate here. Buffs (talk) 15:09, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Convert to non-free use - based on c:Commons:Hirtle chart, this is a non-US work that was not PD in Finland as of 1996 and so is not PD in the US. It would meet NFCC for use as primary visual identification.  Whpq (talk) 14:32, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Can you specify where in your link you are making that determination? That's a huge chart. Buffs (talk) 14:33, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Just because it wasn't PD in the host country in 1996 doesn't mean it isn't PD now, just that another chart/standard applies. From what I can seeCopyright_rules_by_territory/Consolidated_list_F seems to indicate that copyright has lapsed as of 2003 (PD-70) (we are now 18 years past that date). Buffs (talk) 14:43, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
 * No idea how to link this to the commons template, but might be better Buffs (talk) 14:50, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
 * English Wikipedia goes by US copyright status, which is quite messy for foreign works because of the URAA. So the question that needs to be answered is "What is the US copyright status today?" and not "What is the Finnish copyright status today?"  The Hirtle chart helps determine the US status, and key to that is the copyright status in Finland as of 1996, the URAA date. Whpq (talk) 02:27, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
 * The point of URAA is to standardize the recognition of copyright between nations. I find it hard to believe that the US recognizes the foreign copyright of something that isn't even copyrighted in the location it's in. What you're alluding to is not "recognition". What you're recognizing it as is copyrighted in the US when it isn't copyrighted at home. You're extending the copyright. It's my understanding that, if it's PD in its country of origin, it's PD in the US. URAA was designed to protect/recognize/standardize recognition of copyrights, not those in the public domain, which would overrule it. Perhaps I am wrong, but I don't think so. Buffs (talk) 18:48, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Moreover, I misunderstood that the owner of the copyright wasn't known. In fact, we know exactly who it is and they did not comply with copyright law. Ergo, it is not an anonymous work. PD-70 applies and it is, therefore, in the public domain. Buffs (talk) 19:02, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Your intuitive understanding is approximately the same as the rule of the shorter term, which is part of the copyright law of many countries. But it is not followed by the U.S. The U.S. granted its maximum copyright term (95 years from publication) to works that were eligible for URAA copyright restoration. This is shown on the Hirtle chart, as "Solely published abroad, without compliance with US formalities or republication in the US, and not in the public domain in its home country as of URAA date". Toohool (talk) 15:37, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
 * "to works that were eligible for URAA copyright restoration"...this wasn't something that was restored. It was copyrighted at the time of URAA and has since become PD in its own country. That said, I see your point. Sorry to be so nitpicky, but you explained it quite clearly. In either case, it should be kept. Buffs (talk) 17:51, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
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 * Convert to non-free use per Whpq. Toohool (talk) 15:37, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
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File:Counterfeit flag of the Philippine.svg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  16:13, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
 * File:Counterfeit flag of the Philippine.svg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Lmc106 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unused fictious flag. No obvious use. Out of scope. --<span style="font-family: monospace, monospace; color:#69C;">Minorax &laquo;&brvbar;talk&brvbar;&raquo; 12:38, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Buffs (talk) 19:05, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
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File:HerbertElwoodGilliland3.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: delete. Ixfd64 (talk) 16:02, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
 * File:HerbertElwoodGilliland3.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Johnny Dangerously ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Uploaded for Herbert Elwood Gilliland III. No other use. --<span style="font-family: monospace, monospace; color:#69C;">Minorax &laquo;&brvbar;talk&brvbar;&raquo; 15:55, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete not notable subject, ergo, unencyclopedic. Buffs (talk) 19:05, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
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File:LAMB Deluxe.png
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:01, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
 * File:LAMB Deluxe.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Status ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Per WP:NFCC, multiple cover arts should not be used unless the actual cover art has been subject to specific critical commentary. In this case, the cover art is a modified version of the primary cover art - the same image with some alterations in the background and in black and white. It therefore does not satisfy the rational listed in the "purpose" section. >> Lil-unique1  (  talk  ) — 17:44, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Buffs (talk) 19:06, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
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File:Greed Day - American Idiot - vinyl.JPG
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:01, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
 * File:Greed Day - American Idiot - vinyl.JPG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Piercetheorganist ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unused derivative work of copyrighted album cover. Ixfd64 (talk) 22:33, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete, mislabelled non-free file with no obvious value. Salavat (talk) 08:18, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
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File:Greenbrierboard.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:01, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
 * File:Greenbrierboard.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by The1edit ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Source website does not indicate a free license. Even if it did, there is no freedom of panorama for 2D graphic works in the United States. Image is not used anywhere. Ixfd64 (talk) 22:41, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete, orphaned with questionable licensing. Salavat (talk) 08:18, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
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File:Beyonce - B&
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:01, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Beyonce - B&#39;Day (Deluxe) (cover).png">File:Beyonce - B& ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Chrishm21 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Per WP:NFCC, only one cover art which is non-free is allowed. The purpose of use stats this is used for "critical commentary" of the work, however the artwork itself is not subject to critical commentary, nor is it the primary cover. It is the coverwork for the deluxe edition/re-release. It's omission will not be detrimental to the wider article - it is very similar to the original artwork >> Lil-unique1  (  talk  ) — 23:14, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
 * delete per nom. Buffs (talk) 19:15, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
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