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File:Michael Jackson - Human Nature.ogg

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The result of the discussion was: keep in Human Nature (Michael Jackson song) only. ✗ plicit  08:10, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
 * File:Michael Jackson - Human Nature.ogg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Ceoil ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Belongs in either Human Nature (Michael Jackson song) or Thriller (album)... or neither. Justification of using it in both articles seems unclear to me unless I stand corrected. George Ho (talk) 00:41, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  02:24, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep in song article since there is enough critical commentary there to justify its inclusion. Aspects (talk) 00:08, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep. If it belongs in at least one article, then it can be kept; inclusion in a second article is an editorial matter, not a case for deletion. BD2412  T 02:34, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
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File:Michael Jackson - Billie Jean.ogg

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The result of the discussion was: keep in Billie Jean only. ✗ plicit  08:10, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
 * File:Michael Jackson - Billie Jean.ogg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Ceoil ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Belongs in either Billie Jean or Thriller (album)... or neither. Justification of using it in both articles seems unclear to me unless I stand corrected. George Ho (talk) 00:41, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  02:24, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep in song article since there is enough critical commentary there to justify its inclusion. Aspects (talk) 00:08, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep. If it belongs in at least one article, then it can be kept; inclusion in a second article is an editorial matter, not a case for deletion. BD2412  T 02:34, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
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Twix bars

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The result of the discussion was: delete. ✗ plicit  03:24, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
 * File:Twix wrapped.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by SCEhardt ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).


 * File:Twix-PB-Wrapper-Small.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Evan-Amos ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).


 * File:Twix Xtra wrapper, UK, 2020.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Bretonbanquet ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

these images are all used in the Twix article as exammples of packaging without any significant sourced commentary about the package. None of these images are used in the infobox as visual idebtification as that role is filled by File:Twix-Wrapper-Small.jpg. These images are entirely decorative and fail WP:NFCC. -- Whpq (talk) 03:03, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
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File:CGAS NOLA.gif

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Whpq (talk) 12:29, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
 * File:CGAS NOLA.gif ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Caglecubanski ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphaned, superseded by File:CGAS New Orleans Seal.svg on Commons. ✗ plicit  04:39, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete, redundant to Commons file. Salavat (talk) 07:01, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
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File:Roxanne, Roxanne excerpt.ogg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  13:06, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Roxanne, Roxanne excerpt.ogg">File:Roxanne, Roxanne excerpt.ogg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Philaweb ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Justification for usage in Roxanne, Roxanne less clear. The article subject is more about the rivalry between two Roxannes instead of the song itself, depicted in the sample. Doubt it meets WP:NFCC, but I could be wrong. George Ho (talk) 08:08, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
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File:Hocus Pocus - Focus.ogg
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The result of the discussion was: relisted on. ✗ plicit  11:59, 25 November 2022 (UTC)


 * File:Hocus Pocus - Focus.ogg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs])
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File:EE Machine.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: delete. Whpq (talk) 19:30, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
 * File:EE Machine.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Tanviranik ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Dubious copyright claim due to low resolution and lack of metadata. TinEye indicates this image was on another website prior to the upload to Wikipedia. Ixfd64 (talk) 18:54, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete, orphaned with questionable licensing. Salavat (talk) 07:01, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
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File:Cover of Slumgirl Dreaming.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: delete. Whpq (talk) 19:31, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
 * File:Cover of Slumgirl Dreaming.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by KyloRen3 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Fails WP:NFCC. Firstly, a free-use image is available and used in the article. Secondly, the actress is still alive and a free use image could become available. -- <b style="color:white">Mike</b> <b style="color:white">🗩</b> 19:28, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
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File:Shape optimization for buildings by formsolver.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Wrong forum. The file is on Commons. Please nominate it for deletion there if you still feel it should be deleted. AnomieBOT ⚡ 21:14, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Shape optimization for buildings by formsolver.jpg">File:Shape optimization for buildings by formsolver.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Tristan Sterk ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphan Tristan Sterk (talk) 20:19, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
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File:Emerging Shape Optimization Families for buildings by formsolver.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Wrong forum. The file is on Commons. Please nominate it for deletion there if you still feel it should be deleted. AnomieBOT ⚡ 21:14, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Emerging Shape Optimization Families for buildings by formsolver.jpg">File:Emerging Shape Optimization Families for buildings by formsolver.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Tristan Sterk ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphan Tristan Sterk (talk) 20:21, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
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File:My Prerogative Bobby Brown.JPG
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:00, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
 * File:My Prerogative Bobby Brown.JPG ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Xwomanizerx ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unless the text alone (probably describing the scene?) is harder to understand, I only see the singer performing in a music video screenshot. I fail to see how the image is contextually significant to the subject of discussion. George Ho (talk) 20:32, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
 * While the caption used does seem to accurately describe the image as a frame from the music video, I'm not seeing why a non-free image is compellingly necessary to illustrate this encyclopedia article. I concur with George Ho's assessment that this fails the tests of NFCC#8; the image doesn't significantly improve the page, and the article would not suffer significantly for the image's removal. Under that criteria, I might be inclined to keep this image if the video itself were the subject of the page. BusterD (talk) 20:33, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
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