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File:Get out of jail free.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  10:06, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 * File:Get out of jail free.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Kingofthedead ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Replaceable with and/or  on Commons per WP:NFCC. JohnCWiesenthal (talk) 00:13, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep because I disagree on the replace-ability here. The card in the popular imagination, and in most versions of the game of Monopoly, is the currently-used file. Search on Google Images; the vast majority of results will be for variations of this card or the one in the same game from Community Chest. Elli (talk &#124; contribs) 00:36, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete The article does not backup the claim that this version is distinctive enough to be notable over the modern version. It's the concept of a "get out of jail free" card that is notable. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 12:34, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete The old one is not necessary and we have a free replacement. ~ F4U (talk • they/it) 17:10, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. I understand the argument for keeping, but since the Commons file is an official version, I think that replaceability applies here. Thriftycat Talk • Contribs 19:04, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
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File:Blondin &

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Ixfd64 (talk) 23:04, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * File:Blondin & ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Haggis MacHaggis ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Source where image is taken from is a copyright-violating repository of downloads of illegal pdf copies of copyrighted comics Fram (talk) 19:26, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Fastily 03:08, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * hello, so are there any options to make this .svg legal? The image itself was retrieved from the content of one of the series comic books. Haggis MacHaggis (talk) 19:58, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * @Haggis MacHaggis: According to WP:LINKVIO, the image would probably need a source that does not violate copyright. This would mean that the website would need to either be authorized by the copyright holder or covered under fair use. Thriftycat Talk • Contribs 13:18, 13 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete, it seems that there's no legal source for this file. Thriftycat Talk • Contribs 19:06, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
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File:Les-levres-rouges.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: No consensus -Fastily 08:55, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 * File:Les-levres-rouges.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Andrzejbanas ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

There's equivalent free media in this article in the form of File:Del Mar Theatre Ad - 24 September 1971, Santa Cruz, CA.jpg. ―Justin ( koa v f ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:46, 13 December 2023 (UTC)


 * per the infobox standards, we use film posters, not trade or newspaper ads to identify the film. Andrzejbanas (talk) 04:57, 13 December 2023 (UTC)


 * In my opinion, WP:NFCC1 (a policy with legal considerations) should take precedence over the guideline on infoboxes. While it may be monochrome and lower quality, the free alternative still helps the reader to understand the film, so there should be no non-free content used for similar purposes. Therefore, I recommend delete . Thriftycat Talk • Contribs 13:04, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Its not an equivalent as the terms on MOS:FILM state that the film poster is arguably the easiest way to identify a film. Having a Belgian film identified by a cheap muddy newspaper ad is not. I'd honestly rather having nothing over the newspaper clip. Andrzejbanas (talk) 14:25, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I definitely agree that the newspaper clip is very poor quality. I just wasn't sure that the gap between the files was large enough to justify the irreplaceability of the image. Thriftycat Talk • Contribs 04:13, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I withdrew my !vote per the comments of Betty Logan and others because I don't think that I have an adequate understanding of the historical copyright notice requirements. Thriftycat Talk • Contribs 21:43, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
 * The purpose of the posters is for identifiability, a cheap newspaper scan is not equivalent for purpose. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 14:35, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep per Darkwarriorblake and WP:FILMPOSTER. InfiniteNexus (talk) 06:45, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep I agree with DWB and Andrzejbanas, that using the official poster serves a very specific identification purpose on film articles. I am also dubious that the newspaper ad is in the PD, if the original poster is not, given that it is clearly a derivative work. If the original poster is still under copyright, then the derivative IP in the newspaper ad would still be under copyright too (similar to how It's a Wonderful Life is technically in the public domain, but is protected by the copyright of the book it is based on).
 * Betty Logan (talk) 09:00, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
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File:Chansey Fukushima Manhole.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  10:06, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 * File:Chansey Fukushima Manhole.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Pokelego999 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

The article already has an image of Chansey. I don't think this image is necessary enough to the article to qualify as valid non-free use. ~WikiOriginal-9~ ( talk ) 08:01, 13 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete Fails WP:NFCC3 as excessive use of non-free files. The infobox picture is enough for the reader to understand the visuals of the character. Thriftycat Talk • Contribs 12:49, 13 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Keep per rationales outlined on the file talk page. This image demonstrates the significant promotion and role of Chansey as an "ambassador Pokémon" in the Fukushima prefecture. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 14:48, 13 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete Not sure there is "no free equivalent" here. One could technically go to Japan and take a free image of the Chansey outfit or the manhole so it's not a similar situation as a Pokemon's drawn artwork. This applies even though Chansey is a copyrighted design, per WP:FREER. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 12:31, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
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File:Tilak Scoring a Century for Mumbai Indians.jpeg
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The result of the discussion was: delete. Ixfd64 (talk) 23:04, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Tilak Scoring a Century for Mumbai Indians.jpeg">File:Tilak Scoring a Century for Mumbai Indians.jpeg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by BalatheKalaBala ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

This image is a work of digital art (someone's face was pasted on someone else's body) that I can't see an educational purpose for. Additionally, it may be a copyright violation as no sources for the photos are given. The Quirky Kitty (talk) 08:20, 13 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete, no foreseeable use for this file. Thriftycat Talk • Contribs 12:54, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Also, note that the uploader repeatedly used the image to vandalise Tilak Varma. Thriftycat Talk • Contribs 13:33, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
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File:Jerry Brudos Arrested Salem Oregon June 1969.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F7 by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:00, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Jerry Brudos Arrested Salem Oregon June 1969.jpg">File:Jerry Brudos Arrested Salem Oregon June 1969.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Kieronoldham ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

There is already an arguably better non-free image in the article (File:Brudos j.jpg). ~WikiOriginal-9~ ( talk ) 13:11, 13 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete The file in question is now an orphan as a free version exists. The image should be removed.--Kieronoldham (talk) 14:34, 13 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Tagged as WP:F7 Thriftycat Talk • Contribs 18:23, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
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File:Big Bet (TV series).jpg
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The result of the discussion was: delete. Ixfd64 (talk) 23:05, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Big Bet (TV series).jpg">File:Big Bet (TV series).jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Plpm2021 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

WP:NFCCP #3a & #8 ♒️ 98TIGERIUS 🐯 14:33, 13 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete. Non-free use rationale claims it is to be used only in the infobox. Thriftycat Talk • Contribs 17:56, 13 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete since it fails both WP:NFCC and WP:NFCC. Aspects (talk) 01:01, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
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File:The First Responders.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: delete. Ixfd64 (talk) 23:05, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
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WP:NFCCP #3a & #8 ♒️ 98TIGERIUS 🐯 14:41, 13 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete since it fails both WP:NFCC and WP:NFCC. Aspects (talk) 01:01, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
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File:The Guardian al-Qaeda recruitment.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: delete. Ixfd64 (talk) 23:05, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * File:The Guardian al-Qaeda recruitment.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Ottre ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

I am not seeing how this image meets WP:NFCC8. The Guardian is not being discussed in the article (Al-Qaeda), and even if it were I fail to see why a quote would not suffice. <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b>talk 21:03, 13 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete. It just seems like a strange way to cite a source. Nothing relevant even to general media coverage is commented on in the section where the content appears. The stated rationale of "historical context" is not inherently valid, anyway. Thriftycat Talk • Contribs 21:54, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
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File:Geddesburg (Ann Arbor) historic marker.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  10:06, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Geddesburg (Ann Arbor) historic marker.jpg">File:Geddesburg (Ann Arbor) historic marker.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Notorious4life ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Per c:COM:FOP US, freedom of panorama only extends to buildings. There is no evidence to suggest that the text is freely licensed. As c:COM:CB states, "detailed informational and educational noticeboards/signs [...] are almost always copyright-protected". ✗ plicit  23:44, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
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File:DonorBox screenshot.png
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The result of the discussion was: relisted on. <span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS';color:Indigo;font-weight:bold;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-size:120%;">Fastily 08:56, 21 December 2023 (UTC)


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File:Saline, Michigan (salt springs) MSHS marker.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  10:06, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Saline, Michigan (salt springs) MSHS marker.jpg">File:Saline, Michigan (salt springs) MSHS marker.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Notorious4life ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Per c:COM:FOP US, freedom of panorama only extends to buildings. There is no evidence to suggest that the text is freely licensed. As c:COM:CB states, "detailed informational and educational noticeboards/signs [...] are almost always copyright-protected". ✗ plicit  23:49, 13 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Comment. It is a Michigan state historic marker. There are hundreds of photos of similar markers on Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons, and the markers are public state property and commissioned by the state government. Not sure what the copyright issue would be. —Notorious4life (talk) 02:39, 14 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete. Unfortunately, the government of Michigan seems to hold copyright on most of its work. This Harvard website states that work by Michigan gov't should be presumed copyrighted, and "the text on an official Michigan historical marker" is an explicit example given as copyrighted work. (this is not legal advice) Thriftycat Talk • Contribs 03:04, 14 December 2023 (UTC)


 * There are lots of similar images of historical markers on List of Michigan State Historic Sites in Washtenaw County, and other pages, I'm sure. They may have to be deleted as well, depending on the outcome of this discussion. Thriftycat Talk • Contribs 03:08, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
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File:Saline, Michigan MSHS marker.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  10:06, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Saline, Michigan MSHS marker.jpg">File:Saline, Michigan MSHS marker.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Notorious4life ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Per c:COM:FOP US, freedom of panorama only extends to buildings. There is no evidence to suggest that the text is freely licensed. As c:COM:CB states, "detailed informational and educational noticeboards/signs [...] are almost always copyright-protected". ✗ plicit  23:50, 13 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Comment. (Same as the discussion above, File:Saline, Michigan (salt springs) MSHS marker.jpg) It is a Michigan state historic marker. There are hundreds of photos of similar markers on Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons, and the markers are public state property and commissioned by the state government. Not sure what the copyright issue would be. —Notorious4life (talk) 02:39, 14 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete, per my comment above. Thriftycat Talk • Contribs 03:05, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
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