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File:Piccadilly-plan.png

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  14:10, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
 * File:Piccadilly-plan.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Tim riley ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

The image is not simple and was published outside the US in 1939. Its inclusion in the article as non-free is also questionable. — Ирука13 01:00, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
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File:Palestine FA (logo).png

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The result of the discussion was: Valid only for Palestinian Football Association article. Whpq (talk) 01:44, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
 * File:Palestine FA (logo).png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Faycal.09 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

This is the logo of the Palestinian Football Association, and so should only be used there. It should be removed from the team's articles, as these uses violate WP:GETTY point 17. Joseph2302 (talk) 05:55, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment corrected that it's WP:GETTY point 17 being violated. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:22, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
 * So remove it from those articles, why do we need a FfD discussion? GiantSnowman 21:23, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Because people will revert and re-add it if there's not a clear consensus. This has happened for multiple other sports teams when I've tried to just remove them. Joseph<b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 07:57, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
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File:Bringing in the wounded by Rex Nan Kivell.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:02, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Bringing in the wounded by Rex Nan Kivell.jpg">File:Bringing in the wounded by Rex Nan Kivell.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by NLA PIC ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

As explained at the Commons deletion request for images from the same series, these Australian photos are explicitly treated as heretfofore unpublished by the National Library of Australia, which makes their copyright status in the US doubtful. This image is orphaned. Felix QW (talk) 16:13, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
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File:Cactus Man - González.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: No consensus - F ASTILY   21:00, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Cactus Man - González.jpg">File:Cactus Man - González.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Cactus.man ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

The sculpture depicted here was completed in 1939 abroad in Spain, and was in the Guggenheim Collection in Venice since 1976. As the author died in 1942, the scuplture is in the public domain in Europe, but not in the US. Indeed, the Guggenheim image source asserts that the Artists Rights Society exercises the US copyright for this artwork. Furthermore, the sculpture is clearly a three-dimensional object, and the Guggenheim museum has not released this photograph under a free license. There are plenty of other examples of the artist's scupltural work on his page, and this particular one is not mentioned in the text, making non-free use difficult to justify. Felix QW (talk) 16:31, 7 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Keep - As the original uploader in 2006 I'm pretty certain that, at that time, the Guggenheim website where the Image was sourced from did not have the claim asserting copyright is held by the Artists Rights Society. I updated the Licence in 2019 to Pd-old and was unaware of any new copyright assertion on the Guggenheim website, or it hadn't been added. I have no idea about the validity of the current copyright claim, but it does seem rather spurious to me. I'm no lawyer, but I think there is a valid claim to be made for its inclusion in the González article under Fair Use. I have therefore added Fair Use licensing and a rationale to the image page and critical commentary to the Julio González article. -- Cactus.man   &#9997;  16:07, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for responding here! I am not an expert on non-free use, so I am not sure whether it can stand as such. Maybe someone else can weigh in too? Felix QW (talk) 09:21, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep - the work is noted a significant work for the artist and its role in avant-garde sculpture and backed with a reliable source to meet WP:NFCC. -- Whpq (talk) 01:50, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Is there an issue with FREER in that the picture has been taken by the Guggenheim and therefore has two copyrights? Or is it sufficient that the artwork is not currently on display and it is therefore infeasible to create a free depiction? Felix QW (talk) 10:46, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Galleries and museums often have far more items in their collection than can be put on display, and so they get stuffed into storage and may languish there for an indefinite period of time. Unless this piece has been announced to be in some exhibit, then it is inaccessible and has no reasonable opportunity for somebody to make a free image. -- Whpq (talk) 12:45, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
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File:Cheeseshop.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  02:02, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
 * File:Cheeseshop.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Pmerrill ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

This mage is a screen capture from the Cheese shop sketch. There is no significant commentary about this image and tis removal would not hinder a reader's understanding of the topic. Fails WP:NFCC. Whpq (talk) 16:31, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
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