Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2024 July 8

 &lt; July 7 July 9 &gt;

File:MBK Emblem.png

 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more files. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the file's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the discussion was: remove from List of cities in Malaysia. ✗ plicit  13:52, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * File:MBK Emblem.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Fikku fiq ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

This non-free image is being used in two articles with the same rationale that it is for primary visual identification. It is indeed being used for that purpose for Kuantan, and I recommend we keep that usage. However, its use in List of cities in Malaysia is entirely decorative and is certainly not identifying the topic of the article which is the list and recommend to remove the usage in the list as it fails WP:NFCC. Whpq (talk) 03:30, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the file's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this section.

File:Jonathan Lewis.jpg

 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more files. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the file's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the discussion was: keep. ✗ plicit  13:54, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * File:Jonathan Lewis.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Cheera L ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Stated rationale says it’s used to illustrate subject of biographical article, when in fact the article is about an event and not a person. ꧁ Zanahary ꧂ 05:32, 8 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Keep. The event sort of doubles as a biography, involving the victim's life and how it ended, etc. An image is as necessary to understand the event as it is for any biography of a person. Nearly all GA and FA class articles of this type use this same rationale - while OTHERSTUFFEXISTS doesn't mean anything, FA articles using it generally is a sign it is accepted practice. See Murder of Joanna Yeates, Murder of Dwayne Jones, Disappearance of Natalee Holloway, all FA class event based articles with fair use victim images.
 * In fact, I can't find a single FA class article of this type that doesn't have an image of the victim. This is standard practice. To remove images would effect hundreds of pages on every single article of this type and requires much wider discussion. PARAKANYAA (talk) 04:47, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Where should that discussion take place? ꧁ Zanahary ꧂ 00:44, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * @Zanahary WP:Village pump (policy) probably. Considering this is established consensus I don't see any particular reason to change it, but oh well. PARAKANYAA (talk) 03:45, 13 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Keep since the file is used in the article about the person that was murdered to illustrate the person thereby passing WP:NFCC. Aspects (talk) 01:05, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * This article is not about the person that was murdered—it's about the murder. ꧁ Zanahary ꧂ 00:44, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * A notable murder case almost always involves why a person was murdered and their background. It is necessary for the same reasons to identify the murder victim as a biography article, as they are the key focus of the event, therefore fulfilling the same reasons a dead person's biography allows a non free image of them - for identification. Your interpretation is overly literal. PARAKANYAA (talk) 03:47, 13 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Keep, per others, and per WP:NFCC. jp×g🗯️ 06:02, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
 * The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the file's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this section.

File:Vancouverlogo.svg

 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more files. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the file's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the discussion was: no consensus. ✗ plicit  06:37, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
 * File:Vancouverlogo.svg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Connormah ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

I believe the Vancouver logo is very simple in design. Although Canada's copyright law is inherited from the British Empire, Canadian judicial precedents are very different from those in the UK or Australia. The minimum copyright protection in Canada is probably greater than that in the United States, and Vancouver's city logo is unlikely to meet the minimum copyright protection in the United States.

Please replace the original fair use tag with and move it to wikicommons.

For more information please see c:Commons:TOO Canada. Fumikas Sagisavas (talk) 12:33, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Status quo, keep as non-free. This isn't a simple design and IMO the page leaves/flowers in the upper left corner are sufficiently creative to push it over US & Canadian TOO. -Fastily 09:20, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the file's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this section.

File:CFL CAL Jersey 1989.png
<div class="archived boilerplate ffd vfd xfd-closed mw-archivedtalk" style="background-color:#f3f9ff; margin:1em 0 0 0; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #aaa;">
 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more files. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the file's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the discussion was: Status quo, no agreement to convert to PD -<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS';color:Indigo;font-weight:bold;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-size:120%;">Fastily 09:21, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * File:CFL CAL Jersey 1989.png ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Cmm3 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Is this really non-free? I suggest it be relicensed as free but I'm not 100% sure so taking it to FFD. Jonteemil (talk) 16:44, 29 June 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Whpq (talk) 12:39, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I created the file (Wasn't taken from anywhere), but I'm not sure what licence is best. Cmm3 (talk) 17:00, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I see. I'll let an admin decide but to me it seems PD-simple or PD-ineligible would be okay. Jonteemil (talk) 14:58, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Retain as non-free' - the kits include the Stampeder's logo on the helmet. -- Whpq (talk) 15:37, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the file's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this section.

File:(YouDriveMe)CrazyVideo.jpg
<div class="archived boilerplate ffd vfd xfd-closed mw-archivedtalk" style="background-color:#f3f9ff; margin:1em 0 0 0; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #aaa;">
 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more files. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the file's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the discussion was: No consensus -<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS';color:Indigo;font-weight:bold;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-size:120%;">Fastily 09:21, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:(YouDriveMe)CrazyVideo.jpg">File:(YouDriveMe)CrazyVideo.jpg ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by Amylee-britney ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Merely identifies Britney Spears and two other females in waitress outfits. Doesn't contextually signify the whole song or the whole music video or text description that can be already understood without this image. Omission may not impact such understanding. George Ho (talk) 09:31, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  14:22, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep since there is enough sourced critical commentary to justify its inclusion in the article thereby passing WP:NFCC. Aspects (talk) 14:52, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the file's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this section.

File:Cover of Maclen sheet music for &
<div class="archived boilerplate ffd vfd xfd-closed mw-archivedtalk" style="background-color:#f3f9ff; margin:1em 0 0 0; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #aaa;">
 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more files. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the file's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  11:07, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * <span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx ffd-file" id="File:Cover of Maclen sheet music for &#34;Back in the USSR&#34;.jpg">File:Cover of Maclen sheet music for & ([ delete] | talk | [ history] | links | [ logs]) &#x20;– uploaded by JG66 ( [ notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

This cover from the 1976 1982 United Kingdom single release appears to fall below the threshold of originality in the United States (but probably not in the UK); thus, the sheet music cover fails WP:NFCC. JohnCWiesenthal (talk) 21:04, 8 July 2024 (UTC) (edited 21:27, 8 July 2024 (UTC))
 * Sorry, but that's the back cover of the 1982 (not 1976) UK release. The front cover contains a photo of the Beatles. Furthermore, the back cover contains one of EMI logos, which apparently looks complex enough for copyright, especially upon close-up (45cat,ebay). Nonetheless, I question the use of a sheet music cover. The 1976 single is already displayed and was uploaded before the sheet music one, so any other release isn't necessary to display. In other words, delete per "minimal number of items" criterion. George Ho (talk) 21:22, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Edited my reply per your correction. JohnCWiesenthal (talk) 21:27, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the file's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this section.