Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Live Intrusion/1

Live Intrusion

 * • Watch article reassessment page • Most recent review
 * Result: keep Clear consensus that problems have been addressed. Jezhotwells (talk) 22:04, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

This article has two paragraphs, one heavy on technical data on recording and release, the other paraphrasing of the two available reviews. The rest, tracklisting and personnel, are lists transcribed from the DVD. The lack of info is the case here partly because there is no original work in this DVD - it's even called "marginal". Some articles aren't cut out for a GA assessment and don't allow for broad coverage (on background and development/writing and themes, recording, artwork, promotion, commercial performance, reception). This article fails in that category - in actual content it's a near-stub. Hekerui (talk) 10:01, 6 June 2011 (UTC)


 * There is no "development/writing and themes" because each of these songs have been released before and making such a section would be pointless. The "Conception" section includes information on recording and production/development. There is a reception section already, and there is no way to add a commercial performance section because it really never did anything commercial and was never really promoted. And also, the GA criteria does state: "This requirement (It addresses the main aspects of the topic) is significantly weaker than the "comprehensiveness" required of featured articles; it allows shorter articles, articles that do not cover every major fact or detail, and overviews of large topics." Crowz  RSA  15:37, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment Why not write a "composition" section, even though this is a DVD, you can explian each tracks genres, professional reviews, writing and inspiration, production and development of each track. Similar to album articles. If you need examples, if you want to consider this, I'll give you some example articles. Best, AJona1992 (talk) 15:58, 8 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Reply to CrowzRSA I gave the list of possible things to cover to show that aside from the current sparse content nothing else is in there. If there is no more content available as you say, you can't write a substantial article, which is a minimum requirement, and you may never get there. There are many articles that don't have this content available, especially compilations and works similar to this one, and they are informative all the same. This has nothing to do with FA standards, but with upholding a miminum standard for awarding GA class. We're in this for the reader and marking this as GA is in my opinion misleading. Assessing broad coverage is more than checking boxes on the existence of sections. Hekerui (talk) 20:03, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Reply to AJona1992 I'm sure CrowzRSA would have included coverage of these specific versions if there was. The songs were released before so general detail on them would be a duplication of the individual article or description for the studio recording. Hekerui (talk) 20:03, 8 June 2011 (UTC)


 * The article may meet GA criteria, but it may not meet notability guidelines. Does it meet WP:MOVIE? The article states it is marginal, and that it had few reviews, and those reviews mentioned are not the most secure of sources.  SilkTork  *Tea time 10:49, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria
 * This is the GA criteria:


 * 1) Is it reasonably well written?
 * A. Prose quality:
 * B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:
 * 1) Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
 * A. References to sources:
 * B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:
 * C. No original research:
 * 1) Is it broad in its coverage?
 * A. Major aspects:
 * B. Focused:
 * 1) Is it neutral?
 * Fair representation without bias:
 * 1) Is it stable?
 * No edit wars, etc:
 * 1) Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
 * A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
 * B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass or Fail:
 * 1) Is it stable?
 * No edit wars, etc:
 * 1) Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
 * A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
 * B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass or Fail:
 * B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass or Fail:
 * Pass or Fail: