Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Nobiin language/1

Nobiin language

 * • Watch article reassessment page • Information on previous GA assessment
 * Result: Delist per consensus below. Geometry guy 20:25, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

The article fails criteria 2, being mainly unreferenced in most sections, such as history classification and Grammar.--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 17:05, 8 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Delist. I wondered why this was on my watchlist, but i see i added two templates five months ago. Absolutely no reaction in article edits or on talk page, until this GAR (and so far no reaction to the GAR either). There is a lot of work needed on sourcing, probably requiring at least a knowledgable linguist, if not a Nobiin expert. No one willing to do it for 5 months, so delist. Yob  Mod  15:28, 15 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment. My initial impression is that the article needs additional in-line citations and cleanup. There is no requirement that every paragraph or even every section contain citations. However, some of the article's statements need cites, such as:
 * - With the Ottoman conquest of the region in the sixteenth century, official support for Arabization largely ended, as the Turkish and Circassian governments in Cairo sometimes saw Nobiin speakers as a useful ally
 * - Nobiin is one of the about eleven Nubian languages

Additionally, some citations aren't properly formatted; for example: "The languages are clearly genetically related, but the picture is complicated by the fact that there are also indications of contact-induced change (Bechhaus-Gerst 1996)". Superscripted notation is preferred over parenthetics, and page citations are preferred but not required. Majoreditor (talk) 18:24, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The part that first got my attention was the geography section. I strongly suspect that the first paragraph is just discussing Nubians, rather than the population that speaks this specific language. Some of it is useful background information, but needs sourcing, and rewritten to make it clear this does not necessarily reflect actual Nobiin language distribution. Also, the claim for eleven(ish) Nubian language doesn't match the number of languages at the sub-article. Yob  Mod  10:57, 18 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Delist. Needs additional inline citations, standardization of reference form to either Harvard or the superscript number format (can't remember what it's called at the moment). Also needs clarification of the Sounds and Grammar sections - as a non-language expert I was completely lost in these sections. Dana boomer (talk) 23:29, 26 October 2009 (UTC)