Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Illustration workshop/Archive

Image:KB_Iceland.svg
Alt-Gr combinations are given in the upper-right in Blue. unfortunately, this keyboard leaves out all but one Alt-Gr combination (and gives it on the wrong key!), instead implying that Alt-Gr does what is in fact done by a dead key. Plus, two dead keys are missing. A and E are going to be very crowded, but not much we can do if we want to show what the keyboard actually does. Adam Cuerden talk 16:09, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

What it should have:

TOP ROW


 * Top left key: Add (in blue) the Alt-Gr combination °. It is not the same as the ° in green, as the one in green is a dead key, and this one is not. It may be underlined. (as per the Italian I° abbreviation)


 * 4: Alt-Gr 4 is labelled as giving the € symbol. In fact, this should be Alt-Gr 5.


 * 7890: Alt-Gr combinations are { [ ] } respectively.


 * Ö (right of 7890) Alt-Gr is \

SECOND ROW:


 * Alt-gr Q is @
 * Alt-gr E is € again.
 * É, Ý, Ú, Í, and Ó need recoloured and moved downwards: they are not Alt-Gr combinations, but dead-key ones.
 * Ê Û, Î, and Ô (no circumflexed Y) are created by a deadkey in the third row. Another colour will need to be chosen for them. Also È Ù Ì Ò by ANOTHER missing deadkey, so yet another colour.
 * The rightmost key in this row, (' ?),  has an Alt-Gr of ~.

THIRD ROW:


 * Â and À is missing from the A key, see above.
 * The key two keys right of L is written almost completely wrong. The dead key ´ is all that is shown (and will need recoloured to match the new colour of É, etc.) shift-´ gives ' (single quote), and Alt-Gr ´  gives the dead key ^ which combines to give Â Ê Î Ô Û
 * The far right key (+ *) has yet another dead key: Alt-Gr gives `  which combines as À È Ì Ò Ù

FOURTH ROW


 * Far left key, (< >): Alt-Gr gives the pipe, |
 * Alt-Gr M gives µ

As you can see, this is pretty much as wrong as it could be. Adam Cuerden talk 16:07, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

The evidence for the metric expansion of space
Article:Big Bang

Request: This didn't go over well.

Here's what we need, I think:
 * black background
 * explosion from center outward
 * large universal no circle-and-slash symbol in background: with black, probably best to be very dark red, but still clearly prominent
 * three galaxies instead of the stars shown in the explosion with arrows showing they came from the center, colored yellow, orange, and red as shown
 * the planet Earth where the stick-figure is
 * important: the distance between Earth and the yellow galaxy should be the same as from Earth to the red galaxy

I think that will do it.

When ready, please revert the edit above and this one please. Thank you. Biochem67 17:27, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Graphist opinion: Had a quick go at it, might be easier to start in SVG so changes are easy, and then at the end, use the correct earth image/ galaxy images in a PNG image > Rugby471 talk ⚔ 17:59, 13 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Comment: I don't think that such an image is really appropriate. The cartoonish "circle-slash" does not seem to me to be appropriate for an encyclopedia. ScienceApologist 15:56, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Well then, while we are here at the lab, what would you suggest?—Cronholm144 20:57, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't think such an image is necessary or even desirable. ScienceApologist (talk) 17:33, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Why does an internationally recognized symbol seem cartoonish? Biochem67 14:30, 15 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Why is it needed to have a prohibitory sign anyway? Couldn't the "didn't happen" part e included in the caption? 68.39.174.238 00:32, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Placeholder for book Covers
Article(s): Book infobox thing

Request: We need a placeholder for books without covers. I'm not good at talking using a keyboards so that's all I'm going to say.

Opinions: In my own opinion, I think this could work.


 * I uploaded an SVG, so it can be easily edited, and unlimited scaling obviously. I added a small border to the left part to make it seem more natural and changed the text to mimic current placeholders. > Rugby471 talk &#9876; 17:45, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Great! I hope see this in empty infoboxes soon —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blacklemon67 (talk • contribs) 02:11, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * IMHO it looks a little too much like a DVD cover. Here are some ideas: Make the binding smaller/marrower (it looks like a mechanical part right now), make the color yellow-ish paper-white, make the surface matte (i.e. no dark-to-light to transition, it makes it look shiny like plastic), and make the corners smaller (less rounded).  I'm not good at editing vector images myself—I hope you don't mind me chiming in nonetheless... -- Ddxc 08:49, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Tried to make it lighter, just lessened opacity...

SVG not showing
I have uploaded the map of Sitakunda Upazila in both SVG and PNG formats. Image:Sitamap.svg is showing a blank frame, therefore I added Image:Sitamap.png to the article. But, as far as I know the policy is to upload maps in SVG format. Can someone help me to get this right? Aditya (talk • contribs) 06:56, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

I put it through inkscape and cleaned up the code slightly, it's working now. > Rugby471 talk ⚔ 09:02, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Pogostick Animation
Article(s): Pogostick Request: I made this, but it needs improving. Can anyone help? -- Blacklemon67 (talk) 02:19, 30 November 2007 (UTC) Graphist opinion: The uploaded gif is low quality and I deleted the flash file.


 * Seems fine to me. The gray background could probably go, but it's not a big deal. ¦ Reisio (talk) 11:00, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, But it looks terrible to me on the pogostick page —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blacklemon67 (talk • contribs) 03:13, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Map of Harare
Article(s):Harare Request: Possible conversion to SVG format? Thanks Mangwanani (talk) 17:19, 4 February 2008 (UTC) Graphist opinion: Not meaning to be rude, but I have noticed often with your files you say self-made, when in fact you have just taken it from somewhere else, in this case http://www.propertylink.co.zw/map.cfm, I urge people to exert caution, that you don't spend time making something that will be deleted later as a copyvio. Jackaranga (talk) 20:36, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
 * If the website owns the copyright for the map, it means we can't use the map as it, but if we use the map there and make a vector of our own using it as a model, it's not copyrighted by them AFAIK. --escon dites  17:33, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * This is probably PD as the real estate company almost certainly modified a governtment map for their use. Not Protected - Works consisting entirely of information that is common property and containing no original authorship (for example: standard calendars, height and weight charts, tape measures and rulers, and lists or tables taken from public documents or other common sources)   Sagredo &#8857;&#9791;&#9792;&#9793;&#9794;&#9795;&#9796; 21:24, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * In US law, maps of streets are PD as long as they are accurate. To copyright their maps, mapmakers invent roads that don't exist, or sometimes they intentionally misspell an uncommon road name.  I know this because years ago my father's map-making company (the company later went under) was in a copyright dispute with Rand McNally.  Usually the best thing to do is cross-reference two maps.  -- I. Pankonin (t&middot;c) 06:53, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Phone companies also add nonexistant business to the phone books for the same reason. I spent a couple of evenings trying to find certain eatery in Kalispell, MT.   Sagredo &#8857;&#9791;&#9792;&#9793;&#9794;&#9795;&#9796; 07:22, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
 * That's funny! -- I. Pankonin (t&middot;c) 11:00, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Is anything able to be done to the image? Mangwanani (talk) 20:55, 14 February 2008 (UTC)


 * It's sitting totally ignored on WP:PUI... I have no idea. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 18:31, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Deleted; should this be closed or thrown out? 68.39.174.238 (talk) 19:51, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh well, so much for that...Mangwanani (talk) 20:13, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Archiving request, image was deleted. Jeff Dahl (Talk • contribs) 03:58, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Cottco Logo
Article(s): Cottco Request: SVG image. Taken from Cottco Website Thanks Mangwanani (talk) 13:28, 17 February 2008 (UTC) Graphist opinion:
 * This is a non-free image. I see no reason why to modify it, and I believe converting to SVG is unnecessary and possibly violates WP:FUC #3b.-Andrew c [talk] 16:08, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * There are plenty of logos SVGified though...Mangwanani (talk) 19:19, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 * All the ones I've done before were deleted... Why? Because of overzealous copyvio people... It's just the way it is. Besides, I think Cottco would be thrilled to have their logo in svg format, it's probably more than what they have now. lol XcepticZP (talk) 19:26, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Is there any documentation, precedent, or official word that says vector fair-use images are allowed? If there is, adding that info to the fair-use template with a blurb that emphasizes the point would probably prevent them from getting deleted in the future. It seems to me, though, that having a vector version would violate the fair use rationale, in that it would make it easier for people to make derivative works that infringe on the original. Jeff Dahl (Talk • contribs) 23:27, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
 * That would be SVG-Logo. Logos simply states that vector logos should have no more detail than is necessary to render appropriately at low resolutions. (Actually, it says high-detail SVG logos should be avoided.) SVG-Logo basically implements an honor system, stating the image "should not be rendered any larger than is required for the purposes of identification and/or critical commentary." Fvasconcellos (t·c) 23:55, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Archiving this stale request of a non-free image. Jeff Dahl (Talk • contribs) 04:17, 18 March 2008 (UTC)