Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Illustration workshop/Archive/Dec 2013

=Stale=

University of Calicut Logo
Article(s): University of Calicut Request:
 * Please vectorize. the Malayalam text is നിൎമ്മായകൎമ്മണാശ്രീഃ -- കാർത്തുമ്പി (talk) 07:36, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
 * And a off topic doubt. can this picture moved to commons? --കാർത്തുമ്പി (talk) 07:48, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
 * As for the second question: the file has been marked as non-free on the English Wikipedia, so if the license tag is correct, this image cannot be moved to Commons (Commons doesn't allow fair use). SiBr4 ("CyberFour") (talk) 10:46, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

Update "Components of Radiative Forcing" SVG
Article(s): Radiative forcing, Attribution of recent climate change, Global warming, etc. Request:
 * Attached is an image of the components of radiative forcing from the IPCC's 4th assessment report (AR4). Page 12 of the AR5 Summary for Policy Makers [Fixed] contains a new chart with updated confidence intervals from AR5.  We should have all non-historical articles updated with the image from the newest report.

If anyone can make that information into a nice SVG, that would be great. -- gren グレン 18:31, 5 November 2013 (UTC) Graphist opinion(s):
 * Above link – "404 Error. File Not Found." New URL: http://www.climatechange2013.org/images/uploads/WGI_AR5_SPM_brochure.pdf Page 12. Correct?  -- Victor  •talk   13:43, 13 November 2013 (UTC).


 * Ah! They seemed to have changed it right after I posted. Here it is. gren グレン

Maharaja's College logo
Article(s): Maharaja's College Request:
 * Please vextorize the logo -- കാർത്തുമ്പി (talk) 19:03, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s): Would be more helpful if you had a larger file. FOX 52 (talk) 20:38, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Can't find a larger image. Sorry. If its impossible to vectorize I could remove this entry --കാർത്തുമ്പി (talk) 05:41, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
 * It's to small to be able to get a good result so you better remove this request. Goran tek-en (talk) 18:46, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

CNN news
Article(s): Request:
 * Details of your request go here... -- Monika.montgomery (talk) 15:00, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

Eagle and lion in the Philippine coat of arms
Article(s): Coat of Arms of the Philippines Request:
 * Could someone kindly redraw the sloppy eagle and lion in the current arms.


 * This is the lion, enlarged (please also make the lion a lighter gold
 * Here's a better rendering of the eagle.

Thanks! :) -- User 50  11:13, 21 November 2013 (UTC) Graphist opinion(s):

Remington Steele
Article(s): Remington Steele Request:
 * The image above is replaceable by a creation of stand-alone logo, seen in Flickr. -- George Ho (talk) 08:12, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

Republican Party logo
Article(s): Republican Party (United States) Request:
 * New logo with a red color and a word R. (Separate File) -- 2602:304:B0FD:19C0:C469:775F:B431:B80E (talk) 14:47, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):
 * Not an advisable graphic. The (D) logo is the actual trademarked logo of the US Democratic Party.  What you are asking is that we make derivatives of their trademark to be used to represent several competing parties.  Niamh (talk) 02:35, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

2602:304:B0FD:19C0:C469:775F:B431:B80E -- we already have an existing modified-to-be-copyright-free version of a U.S. Republican party logo, File:America Symbol.svg... -- AnonMoos (talk) 05:19, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

Libertarian Party logo
Article(s): Libertarian Party (United States) Request:
 * New logo with a gold / yellow color and a word L. (Separate File) -- 2602:304:B0FD:19C0:C469:775F:B431:B80E (talk) 14:48, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

Constitution Party logo
Article(s): Constitution Party (United States) Request:
 * New logo with a purple color and a word C. (Separate File) -- 2602:304:B0FD:19C0:C469:775F:B431:B80E (talk) 14:49, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

Green Party logo
Article(s): Green Party of the United States Request:
 * New logo with a green color and a word G. (Separate File) -- 2602:304:B0FD:19C0:C469:775F:B431:B80E (talk) 14:51, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

Nepal: kingdom coat of arms 1962
Article(s): Request:
 * please vectorize this coa - for a better picture of the crown (if needed)see bygaga-file -- JanJC (talk) 13:06, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

Coat of arms of Newfoundland and Labrador
Article(s): Coat of arms of Newfoundland and Labrador and others Request:
 * We still do not have a SVG of that CoA! Wo wants to draw it? Antemister (talk) 22:20, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

=Resolved=

Flag of Sindh
Article(s): Sindh Request:
 * The quality of that SVG is extremely low. Years ago I obtained a high quality raster file of, so it is possible to improve it. Graphist, please sent an eMail to me, then you'll get it from me.-- Antemister (talk) 20:31, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

✅: when the request is done.

Date removal
Article(s): Wheel of Fortune (U.S. game show) Request:
 * Could someone please remove the date stamp from this image? -- Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 15:05, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):
 * ✅ -Goran tek-en (talk) 16:24, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅ -Goran tek-en (talk) 16:24, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Seal of Ghana
Article(s): Request:
 * Please recreate the seal of Ghana on the green background with the inscription using the SVG coat of arms on the right, so that we have this in SVG and the low-quality JPEG may be deleted.  Fry1989  eh?   18:13, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Is there a prove that such a strange rendition with green background exist on public documents. Does not seem ti logical...--Antemister (talk) 22:15, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't know of any actual evidence, but I'd rather have it in SVG then JPEG either way.  Fry1989  eh?   20:10, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

✅:AnonMoos (talk) 22:53, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks.  Fry1989  eh?   20:10, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Maria Theresa signature
Article(s): Maria Theresa Request:
 * Please remove the background. -- Ե  րևանցի  talk  02:39, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):
 * Copy/pasted from the Graphics Lab. Please can you create an SVG instead? Regards, nagualdesign (talk) 03:56, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅ Niamh (talk) 23:09, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you. nagualdesign (talk) 03:18, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you. nagualdesign (talk) 03:18, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Xbox One and 360 Logos
Article(s): Xbox One (First Image) Xbox 360 (Second Image) Request:
 * The only problem I have with the file is that the circle X part is not clear enough. -- Blurred Lines  21:45, 9 December 2013 (UTC)


 * When you get the chance, could you vectorize the circle X part on the second image? Blurred Lines  17:19, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes I'll get her done today. FOX 52 (talk) 18:42, 10 December 2013 (UTC)✅ - FOX 52 (talk) 05:17, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):


 * ✅ FOX 52 (talk) 01:12, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅ FOX 52 (talk) 01:12, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

American Dad Logo
Article(s): American Dad! Request:
 * I would like to request for this file to be an SVG file. -- Blurred Lines  23:44, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

k2trf (talk) 06:38, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't think the photo is fully vectored, because my me looking at the PNG versions, the image looks stuffy. Blurred Lines  06:45, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Looking at it, you're right - I must have done something horribly wrong; I will go back through and see if I can figure out what I screwed up on & fix it, sorry about that! k2trf (talk) 07:01, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅: I'm honestly stumped as to what I did majorly wrong; whatever I did (or didn't do), I can't seem to reproduce it. Stepping through my process again, I got it correct this time... am very curious as to what I could have misclicked to cause it to screw up that horribly! Either way, there's a new version of the file uploaded, which is properly vectorized this time - sorry about that! k2trf (talk) 07:28, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry, if I may ask, but could you re-add the blue color to the flag, because I noticed that when you vectored it, you may have left out some colors that was with the image. Blurred Lines  12:29, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
 * No worries, my bad for leaving out the blue - I missed it down there on it's own (which is probably very sad being that I am American... XD) - I've fixed it for you, is this color okay, or would you like it more Blue (as opposed to the Navy color it is now)? k2trf (talk) 13:37, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
 * No, it's fine now. Thanks for fixing it. Blurred Lines  13:55, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
 * You're very welcome; glad I could help! :) k2trf (talk) 13:57, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

The Hughleys

 * Struck out Stale, as I've now completed this. k2trf (talk) 14:54, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I removed the old stale so the bot doesn't get confused. Niamh (talk) 17:50, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Article(s): The Hughleys Request:
 * Must create an SVG derivative of the logo: http://thehughleys.tktv.net/images/hughleys_logo.gif (from http://thehughleys.tktv.net/). -- George Ho (talk) 06:02, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):
 * For what purpose or can I not ask that here (I'm new so I don't know a lot)? Goran tek-en (talk) 18:54, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
 * To identify the show. Also, GIF is inferior to SVG. George Ho (talk) 01:02, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes but is it to be used outside WikiMedia? Goran tek-en (talk) 19:43, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Can you create the SVG derivative? Anybody can use the logo anywhere they go. George Ho (talk) 19:49, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

I've uploaded a new version of this to Wikimedia Commons, marked the license appropriately, and flagged your original file as now having a vectorized alternative available. k2trf (talk) 14:54, 11 December 2013 (UTC) This could still be done better than I have.
 * SVG looks thicker than GIF one. Can you modify? George Ho (talk) 19:20, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I think I've made it just about as thin as I can without starting to lose quality on the vectors - is that close enough? k2trf (talk) 20:19, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
 * This svg must have been created with some kind of automatic tool because it has some blur in it an way to many points. I can do it manually but not right now because I have too many other things to work on.


 * I think the gif is better than the svg version. I hope it's OK to say so without offending anyone. I haven't been active so long here so tell me if it's wrong, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 20:37, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I suppose it is technically an automatic tool; I've done it through Gimp for flattening, then Inkscape for tracing the bitmap (using the integrated Potrace), but for an image this thin, it does look better as a raster, where it keeps definition. I will have to play with the points and get it to be more normalized across the entire sheet. I'm just attempting to be helpful, I by no means claim to be a professional at vectorizing images, and I won't be offended in the least by critisism (so long as it's kept civil), since that helps me get better. Likewise, I would not be offended if you did work on it either! k2trf (talk) 20:42, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I've modified it a bit manually; I managed to remove pretty much all of the quality loss, simplified the pallet to just black and white, and I tried to normalize the letters a bit better than it was doing. Its definately miles better than what I had previously, but I think it it might still benefit from the touch of someone with more skill/experience than I have. k2trf (talk) 20:56, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, looking at it I ended up making it thicker by accident as well. I think my issue is that I'm used to working with curves, and this particular image looks more proper as squared (hence why the rastorization looks better thus far). k2trf (talk) 20:57, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I'll take a stab at it and see if it can be cleaned up. That's the bad thing about auto drawing vector programs they're quite rough, and they lack detail. FOX 52 (talk) 00:44, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I'd definately appriciate that - I've been playing with it further (manually editing the points after tracing), and I'm slowly getting to a point where the quality/sizes are approximately the same, but its definately not quickly done this way! XD Am really just toying with the last 'S' at this point - if I can get it to look similar and not any thicker/etc. tonight, I'll post that up for review as well, as once the 'S' is done, this will have been fully done manually.
 * For reference, how would you go about vectorizing images without the use of a tool such as Inkscape? I'm on Linux, so my options are (somewhat) limited in terms of the higher end commercial software, but I had no problems vectorizing the American Dad Logo earlier today (request is now completed, can be found further down the page) with just GIMP and Inkscape at my disposal. (Please Hit me up on my talk page if you wouldn't mind sharing some pointers in this regard!) k2trf (talk) 02:25, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I've uploaded a new version hopefully this help some, it may need a little tweaking. - FOX 52 (talk) 03:47, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

That's better. George Ho (talk) 03:57, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your understanding K2trf. I'm not a professional either and my experiences is very mixed. I do also run on Linux (Ubuntu) and that is definitively not a disadvantage as I see it. I will write down here how I go about a thing like this and maybe some can help you. As mentioned auto tracing stuff have there limitations. This trademark consist of letter and a black font like this is in it's original either 100% black or 0%. If you enlarge the gif (it's really low resolution) and maybe even put a colored background you will see all the shades of grey that is there. To me those come from rendering/scaling or in other ways manipulating the image. When you then use an automatic tool to trace it, depending on the settings, it will pick up those shades and convert them as well, so it doesn't work really.


 * To me this is something that has to be done manually and as you say, it takes time . The best would be if one could find out what font that was used and then recreate it that way. It's very seldom you can get this information so you have to do it by hand. I try to think and look at the bitmap (gif) as where I can define a kind of middle line between the black and the edge of the grey. This would be the line I try to find in all letters of the trademark. Think about how a letter look, does it have straight lines at the bottom, top and so on. Try to find a font that is similar to the one you are working on and look at that.


 * The hardest part (to me any way) is letters with round parts as they can be done in so many ways and the eye is extremely well designed to find shapes that doesn't fit in. Here I look in different magnifications, rest for some hours, try again with some change, go back and so on until I'm happy. You also have to compare with the original in 100% magnification so I don't loose the perceived impression of the trademark. It's so easy to make it to thick, slender, edgy or anything like that. --Goran tek-en (talk) 10:52, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Ah, that makes sense - I took a look, and what Fox52 has done is absolutely the best! I was retracing it manually like you've described, but was having a lot of difficult shaping the last 'S' like it should have been, whereas Fox's is perfect! I expect I'll get better over time though, so hopefully I'll get quicker at doing such things manually! Would not have thought about simply trying to match the original font used, that's a good note (though for a case like this where FOX originally created the logo, I doubt whatever font it is is publicly available). Thanks for the tips! k2trf (talk) 12:59, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Majestic class diagrams Brasseys 1902
Article(s): Request:
 * Please correct spelling JRPG (talk) 23:26, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):
 * Is it really necessary to correct the spelling on an old work like that. Maybe it's not wrong spelled in that time context.

My suggestion is to leave it as it is. --Goran tek-en (talk) 12:37, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
 * And if it was to be corrected you would have to provide a list of the words to be corrected with the correct spelling, and it's hard to make it look good.
 * Agreed. Making content changes to a historical document and passing it off as the original is not a road we should go down.  "Britian" is wrong, but it is historically wrong.  Niamh (talk) 00:37, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
 * OK. It was a US spelling of a Great Britain ship & ..to me it just looks silly but thanks anyway for your time in considering it. JRPG (talk) 16:15, 11 December 2013 (UTC)


 * So how do you go about to remove this request? --Goran tek-en (talk) 10:55, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

✅: No action required. JRPG (talk) 11:27, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Weak decay diagram
Article(s): Weak interaction, possibly CKM matrix and quark in the future. Request:
 * The first image is the one in need of a tweak.
 * 1) The mass axis should point up, not down. (i.e. vertical flip the image)
 * 2) Instead of using full lines / dashlines /etc... the "likelyhood" should be grayscale-coded, using the white-dark values from the second image.
 * 3) The position of the quarks on the mass axis should use the most recent masses.
 * u: 2.3 MeV
 * d: 4.8 MeV
 * s: 95 MeV
 * c: 1,275 MeV
 * b: 4,180 MeV
 * t: 173,070 MeV

-- Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 13:45, 9 December 2013 (UTC) Graphist opinion(s):
 * There's actually quite a bit wrong with the source graph. When attempting to mark the correct locations of the quarks according to your list, I noticed that the scale is not spatially uniform.   That is, the physical distance from the 10 mark to the 100 mark is shorter than the distance from the 100 mark to the 1000 mark.  Additionally, the charge axis looks perfectly horizontal but is actually skewed to incline about 0.5 degrees, which was enough to knock off my measuring.   I'll get this all fixed.  Niamh (talk) 18:06, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅ Modifications made in rebuild:
 * Image orientation flipped vertically.
 * Arrows use shading rather than dashing with variants of 100%, 66%, 33%, and 0% greyscale
 * Scale is now uniform and logarithmic hashes added.
 * Quark locations changed to match table as provided.
 * Axis lines are now straight.
 * Font is now consistent (it all uses Liberation Sans now).
 * Superfluous border removed.
 * Legend simplified and moved.
 * Niamh (talk) 22:42, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Looks awesome. But a minor thing is the arrow order (in the front-to-back layout seems inconstant). I'm not quite sure what exactly is off, but there is something off. I think the t to d arrow needs to be moved in the back. Maybe other tweaks too. Do you see what I mean, or am I unclear? Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 23:01, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Let's try this order, front those most to the back, to those most to the front.
 * b &larr; t (99.91%)
 * s &larr; t (04.04%)
 * d &larr; t (00.86%)
 * b &rarr; c (04.12%)
 * s &larr; c (97.34%)
 * d &larr; c (22.52%)
 * b &rarr; u (00.35%)
 * s &rarr; u (25.53%)
 * d &rarr; u (97.43%)
 * Also, charge should be "&minus;1/3 e", and "+2/3 e". Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 23:02, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
 * The current arrow stacking order is that lighter is always in front of darker. For arrows of the same tone, no preference was given.  I can switch that around easily enough though.  How would you like it?   I can also easily add the 'e' onto the charge axis.  Is 'e' italicised or normal? Niamh (talk) 23:08, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Could you clarify "front those most to the back, to those most to the front"? Are you wanting b &larr; t on top and d &rarr; u on the bottom of the stack?  Niamh (talk) 23:15, 9 December 2013 (UTC)  Disregard.  I figured it out once I realised you meant "from" not "front". You want the opposite of what I asked. Niamh (talk) 23:20, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅ I'm not a fan of how this looks, personally. b &larr; t looks buried under a mass of darker arrows.  Oh well.  I also moved the "Charge" label to the centre of the x-axis and fixed the location of d (I mistakenly put it at 5.8 not 4.8) Niamh (talk) 23:38, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Looks good to me. The arrows situation may not be optimal, but I don't think it can be much improved over this. Thanks a bunch! Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 00:02, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
 * You are very welcome Niamh (talk) 00:27, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Actually, one thing I only noticed now is that you used the 100/66/33/0% grayscale values. The request was to use the same grayscale values as the 2nd image. The reason for that was that this second image had the likelyhood of decay encoded in the grayscale. For convenience, I've added the grayscale values for each line (see above, 100% = full black, 0% = full white). Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 03:24, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
 * ❌ I'm sorry, but no. 5% differentials in greyscale are effectively indistinguishable.   Anything greater than 90% is effectively "black" and everything less than 10% is effectively "white".   I'm certainly NOT going to make a colour of 0.001% or 99.829% grey.  Besides, such values are not possible in the 32-bit RGBA colour space anyway.  Additionally, the sample image only used 4 shades of grey (98%, 25%, 8%, and 2%) and the lower two are nearly impossible to tell apart.  Attempting to "encode" such information will actually convey less information than having decent contrast that is distinguishable to the naked eye.  Minute details, such as the actual probabilities down to three significant figures beyond the decimal, are best put into a table.  Niamh (talk) 06:37, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
 * To illustrate my point, I'm including a swatch of 8 greys on a neutral background, all within the range of what you want: 0%, 1%, 2%, 5%, 95%, 98%, 99%, 100%.   However, they are in random order.  Within 10 seconds, figure out which is which.  Niamh (talk) 08:51, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Greyscale Swatch - NiamhOC.svg
 * I agree with Niamh with one exception: It should be clear from the graphics, that b &larr; t, s &larr; c, d &rarr; u are much more probable than the other transitions. Either through color (which is hard for the reasons given) or (maybe the easier but less clear solution) by applying a logarithmic scale to the color bar. --Patrick87 (talk) 09:28, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
 * OK, if those [98%, 25%, 8%, 2%] are the values I see what's going on... I've squared the grayscale values (0.04 [4%] became 0.0016 [.16%]), when I shouldn't have. I've updated the grayscale values, and those should produce visible differences. (For the curious, these grayscale values are the CKM matrix parameters.) Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 10:14, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I'll fix.
 * ✅ Niamh (talk) 16:13, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

That Inkscape bug, what tag was that?
Request:
 * About that Inkscape bug: sometimes it leaves black boxes in view (from earlier text boxes). Can someone tell me which  I should look for & delete in the svg code? -DePiep (talk) 08:19, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):
 * Those are s. Inkscape creates them when you're creating flowed text areas by pulling open a text field with the mouse. If you only click a single time with the text tool, a normal text node is created at the position of the cursor. --Patrick87 (talk) 08:55, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that's the word. Since it's a bug, I prefer not to havning to change mousing habits. -DePiep (talk) 17:04, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
 * DePiep: It's not a bug. It's a feature – which is sadly not supported by libRSVG (the SVG renderer used on Wikipedia). The  is a valid element as defined in [SVG 1.2 Specification] and it is perfectly fine that Inkscape uses it. When you pull open a text field you're telling Inkscape to put text into this area (therefore Inkscape needs to break lines = flowed text). If you click a single time you're telling Inkscape to put text at the specified position (therefore a normal text element is sufficient). --Patrick87 (talk) 22:28, 16 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Patrick87 -- I really would consider the Inkscape "flow" stuff a bug as far as Wikimedia is concerned. First off the "flow" junk is not part of any officially-adopted SVG standard.  SVG 1.2 is still in draft status, and hasn't been updated in over eight years!  SVG Tiny 1.2 has turned out to be a significant and influential standard, but it seems that  SVG Full 1.2 (which defines the "flow" stuff") has not turned out to be such, and in fact is never going to be formally adopted.  Frankly, I find the attitude of the Inkscape developers to be just a little bit annoying -- they're more or less aware that the "flow" junk is not fully official, and causes interoperability problems, but it seems that they just don't really care that much.  Not even saving as "Plain SVG" cleans up the "flow" junk in any version of Inkscape that I've heard of.  Also, selecting and deleting an empty "flow" element (i.e. one containing no text) can be quite difficult in Inkscape. Etc. etc. Sorry if I sound a little soured, but I've cleaned up hundreds of Inkscape files with "flowtext" problems on Wikimedia Commons, and I wish that the Inkscape people weren't so blithely unconcerned about the difficulties ill-chosen program design features can create for others... AnonMoos (talk) 00:21, 17 December 2013 (UTC)


 * P.S. http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG12/ says right near the top of the document "Notable changes to the feature set that readers can expect to see in the next draft include: * Replacement of the previous flowing text proposal with a superset of the SVG 1.2 Tiny textArea feature." -- AnonMoos (talk) 00:37, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I only asked for the tag name to delete it .... quietly edit the graph (AnonMoos beat me to it). For me it is still a bug. Did not want to claim much time. -DePiep (talk) 15:50, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Gaëtan Dugas (HIV Patient Zero) Sexual Contracts Graph
Gallery

An example of a similar graph

The original graph

Article(s): Request:
 * Gaëtan Dugas
 * Index case

Gaëtan Dugas is the alleged index case for HIV/AIDS. A graph detailing his sexual partners and their HIV status was published in the The American Journal of Medicine in 1984. The graph is key to understanding his role in the emergence of HIV.

Since the original graph is copyrighted, it cannot be added to Wikipedia. However, a graph with the same information could easily be recreated. I can make private arrangements to share a scan of the original with a volunteer. -- Billhpike (talk) 15:06, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):
 * I'll take this request and will contact User:Billhpike regarding the image. Niamh (talk) 01:52, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Waiting on requester Niamh (talk) 19:40, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I found a webpage with the original graph. Link is above.  --Billhpike (talk) 00:10, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅: I'm not terribly happy with how the Wikimedia software is rendering the text when it rasterises the SVG into PNG. I've tweaked the fonts a bit to minimise the impact, but it is still "off".  If this is a big issue, I'll convert the text to paths.  It'll end up being a considerably larger file, but it will be more true. Niamh (talk) 17:27, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Look good. I'll trust your judgment on font rendering.  Could you italicize Kaposi's sarcoma?  Also note that is Kaposi's sarcoma, not Kaposi's sarcoma.  Thanks! --Billhpike (talk) 20:23, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Of course :) The original source had "Kaposi sarcoma" and the Wikipedia article can't seem to make up its mind.  I have absolutely no problems with making these adjustments.  I've also decided to vectorise the text.  The proverbial straw is that the SVG had "Pneumocystis carinii pneumonia" and it rendered as "Pneumocystis carinii pneumonia".  I could make this two different, but I'm just going to vectorise it and be done with it.  I might upload a translatable version to the Commons separately for the other projects.  Niamh (talk) 20:59, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅ Niamh (talk) 21:11, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

AMD logo
Article(s): Advanced Micro Devices Request:
 * This is my first request to please help make a change to the AMD corporate logo that is shown on their Wikipedia page. The company went through a re-branding period, and no longer uses the logo that is currently displayed. You will see their corporate website uses a black only logo (no green arrow). Please let me know how I can help to make the Advanced Micro Devices page an accurate reflection of the new brand.  Thank you. Seegee222 (talk) 22:51, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):
 * I'm going to move this request over to the Illustration workshop, where they deal with Scalable Vector Graphics (SVG) files. nagualdesign (talk) 23:22, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
 * ..Copy/pasted from the Photography workshop. nagualdesign (talk) 23:22, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

✅ Niamh (talk) 01:10, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Niamh. nagualdesign (talk) 01:48, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

Request:
 * Thanks for your help. I noticed that the logo shows up as all black when I am signed into my Wiki account, but if I do a simple internet search and am signed out, the logo still shows up as the old green and black.  Can you advise?  Thanks again.

Seegee222 (talk) 17:10, 19 December 2013 (UTC)


 * That happens sometimes, it takes awhile for the server to catch up so to speak. I've had some updated images take up to 2 weeks before they become finalized. FOX 52 (talk) 18:59, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

Lennart Meri Tallinn Airport logo
Article(s): Tallinn Airport Request:
 * Please vectorize. -- 88.65.23.27 (talk) 22:27, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):
 * Try as I might, I simply could not find that font to use as a model to vectorise (and it is simply too small to fake it). If you figure it out, would you kindly tell me what it is?  I'm dying to know.  Niamh (talk) 09:14, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅ - Ending up using Angsana New font, hopefully that'll do the trick. - FOX 52 (talk) 03:00, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I noticed that Angsana New and Traditional Arabic were both very close... Face-smile.svg Niamh (talk) 03:04, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅ - Ending up using Angsana New font, hopefully that'll do the trick. - FOX 52 (talk) 03:00, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I noticed that Angsana New and Traditional Arabic were both very close... Face-smile.svg Niamh (talk) 03:04, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

The Lucy Show logo
Article(s): The Lucy Show Request:
 * The more familiar logo must be created from one of sources: . -- George Ho (talk) 22:20, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):
 * ✅: Based on the second image. While I personally like how it looks, I'm not necessarily in love with the colour or the drop shadow if you want them modified or removed.  Niamh (talk) 22:45, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
 * What happened to moving it to Commons (or uploading image to commons)? George Ho (talk) 22:46, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
 * "You're welcome." Niamh (talk) 22:49, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

The Shinto Barnstar
Article(s): WP:Barnstars; Template:The Shinto Barnstar; WP:Ribbons Request:
 * There evidently used to be a Shinto Barnstar. The above ribbon is all that seems to remain of it. Since I don't remember the star itself, perhaps it just makes more sense to create a new image, using the above logo used for Shintoism article. -- Achowat (talk) 14:48, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):
 * What do you think of something along these lines?
 * Shinto_Barnstar.png
 * It needs a bit of colour work, but I wanted to get a rough cut out there for you for feedback. Niamh (talk) 14:04, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Looks fine to me. Achowat (talk) 22:36, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅ Brilliant Face-smile.svg  I'll leave it to you to add to the barnstar award template Niamh (talk) 22:48, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Emblem of Somaliland
Article(s): Somaliland and many more Request:
 * The depiction of the Somaliland emblem is inadequate (only an autotracing of an low quality file). Now I found an SVG in a official PDF, but this image is incomplete. Can someone add the hands? For the pigeon, you might find one in commons:Category:Pigeons in heraldry -- Antemister (talk) 20:44, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):
 * On the last page of the PDF file, there is a version of the emblem which includes the hands and which has an Arabic inscription inside the eagle (in place of what looks like a pigeon on the autotraced emblem). I'll try and upload that version when I'm sure how to license it. SiBr4 ("CyberFour") (talk) 21:11, 25 December 2013 (UTC)


 * OK, I did really only look on the first page. In fact, I can upload the file by myself. Copyright situation is easy in that case, neither Somalia nor Somaliland do have copyright laws.--Antemister (talk) 21:49, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I already extracted the emblem from the PDF file and have an SVG version ready. Can I use the PD-Somalia tag if I upload the file? ( explicitly says Somali copyright law doesn't hold in Somaliland.) SiBr4 ("CyberFour") (talk) 21:54, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Somalia seems to have some IP-related laws, which do not apply now in Somaliland. But if the page says that there is no copyright law Somaliand, I assume that you can use that Template (or one might create a PD-Somaliland one).--Antemister (talk) 22:11, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅: File:Emblem of Somaliland.svg. SiBr4 ("CyberFour") (talk) 22:31, 25 December 2013 (UTC)