Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Illustration workshop/Archive/Feb 2014

=Stale=

Devassa by Playboy
Article(s): Devassa by Playboy Request:
 * Can someone extract the logo/bottle from here for the page? It is free to use if used to display the brand, so not probs there. Thanks -- Lihaas (talk) 15:25, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
 * First, I'm not sure how it would be free, instead of fair use. Also, this should probably be requested at the photography workshop. The Haz talk 22:23, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

São Tomé and Príncipe coat of arms
Article(s):Various.

Request:Vectorise this image please.

Graphist opinion(s):

Various coats of arms
Article(s): Various. Request:
 * None of these three images is in a svg format, and all are non-free files, making them difficult to use. -- Tyrionasaurus (talk) 02:36, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

Saint Lucia - 1875-1939 flag
Article(s): List of British flags, Flags of the British Empire Request:
 * Someone please try and create an SVG file of the colonial flag of Saint Lucia (1875-1939) found at flagswikia.com - 5.134.90.140 (talk) 13:08, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

Colonial flags of Dominica
Article(s): List of British flags, Flags of the British Empire Request:
 * Could someone please try and create SVG files of the colonial flags of dominica, both the one used from 1955-1965 (http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/d/dm_55.gif -In case the coat of arms is to small to make out, a close up of it can be found at https://flagspot.net/images/d/dm)55.gif) and the one used from 1965-1978 (http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/d/dm-col1.gif Again, if the coat of arms is too small, there is a close up of it at https://flagspot.net/misc/dm)65.gif).

Graphist opinion(s):

Devassa by Playboy
Article(s): Devassa by Playboy Request:
 * Can someone extract the logo/bottle from here for the page? It is free to use if used to display the brand, so not probs there. Thanks -- Lihaas (talk) 15:25, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
 * First, I'm not sure how it would be free, instead of fair use. Also, this should probably be requested at the photography workshop. The Haz talk 22:23, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

List of currencies in North America map
Article(s): List of currencies in North America Request:
 * Hi, I need an image for the page; I am not certain what would work, so please feel free to tell me. But at the minute, I am thinking perhaps a map of countries currencies (with the most used currencies, the USD and Caribbean one). Thanks, Mat  ty  .  007  18:07, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):
 * There are 23 countries and 18 currencies, with most of the duplicates being East Caribbean Dollar. The table makes this quite clear, and I don't think there is a need for an image before this could be understood. Jon C (talk) 16:15, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank for the reply, when I took it to FL (which failed), one of the issues was the picture. Thanks, Mat  ty  .  007  18:26, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
 * That probably has to do with the fact that the article is about North American currencies and the map is of the U.S. dollar. However, I agree with Jkwchui in that the image you described is probably not the right one either. I personally feel that the article would be better either without a picture, or a collage of North American currencies. Images should add to the article. The current one would be good in a U.S. dollar article and the one described would be too much information in one image when it would be better served by the table that is already there. The Haz talk 05:28, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks. picture removed and I will have a think about which currencies to add. Thanks, Mat  ty  .  007  18:45, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Mitford
Article(s): Nancy Mitford Request:
 * Please create a vectorised version. Thanks! --  P. S. Burton  (talk)  23:22, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):
 * ✅ --  Victor  • talk   13:54, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much. Nice work. P. S. Burton  (talk)  23:27, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately the svg was met with much dissatisfaction at the talk page. I can see nothing wrong with it on my screen, but would you mind taking a second look and see if there is something wrong with it that needs to be fixed? The problem might be the thumbnail. Thanks. P. S. Burton  (talk)  01:32, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
 * It's OK. Editors too often do not understand difference between raster and vector graphics, see my comments at Talk:Nancy_Mitford.  --  Victor  • talk   19:51, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Besides the glaring ignorance that became evident on the talk page, you also have to blame yourself. Two points to improve the graphics (also at small sizes) and which will make everybody happy:
 * Use bold font as in the original.
 * Use real text inside SVG. Since you converted text to paths in Illustrator RSVGs hinting mechanisms for fonts can't work. Therefore text is not aligned to the pixel boundaries of the rendered PNG which results in blurry fonts.
 * If you respect those the SVG is almost certainly superior at all sizes. --Patrick87 (talk) 22:34, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Disagree:
 * Regular (roman) font used in the original, not bold.
 * Have to outline text — characters shifted and crushes because of n-dashes, text in crowded boxes (e.g. Algernon Bertram) stretches outside right boundaries, especially at 1000px, 2000px, and above. Tried few different fonts, same problems, so finished with outlining.  --  Victor  • talk   23:18, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
 * If you don't want my help and are unwilling to improve the graphics I can't help you... But then I also can't mind those guys on the talk page to stick to the old and ugly JPG version instead of replacing it with your (basically very nice) SVG version. Fact is:
 * The font in the JPG is bolder than the font you used. This improves readability at small sizes and is probably the most evident difference which potentially led to the file replacement to be reverted.
 * Font hinting is one important feature and a great advantage of SVGs over raster graphics. It will make the text much more readable. If you choose a font available on WMF-Wikis (see SVG fonts), correctly center-align all the text elements and take into account some additional space in the surrounding boxes (since hinting slightly increases the letter-spacing of text) you will be fine and the text should look good in most applications.
 * Those are my tips and I know they work. So take it or leave it, I don't mind. In the end it's your graphics and it's your time that will be wasted if you don't improve it so it will be included in the article. --Patrick87 (talk) 00:04, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I have never understood how Illustrator SVG interact with the Wikimedia SVG rendering engine, but I do know that setting font as Liberation Sans (one of the SVG fonts supposingly available) never works out the way I'd like it to. The various interactions between thumbnail / full / various versions is also never clear to me.
 * To make life less mystifying, I've just created a page for testing SVGs here. I'm not sure what is the take-home message here except that text-rendering doesn't play well (at all)... tons of artifacts (e.g., compare the kerning between the regular font left,right,center aligns)  If any of you have suggestions to expanding/revising the conditions of the test, I will be happy to oblige.  Jon C (talk) 04:09, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I wrote an answer Jon C. Let's continue at on the talk page. --Patrick87 (talk) 20:40, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I wrote an answer Jon C. Let's continue at on the talk page. --Patrick87 (talk) 20:40, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

WPME (2013)
Article(s): WPME

Request
 * Can anyone make this logo Scalable?

50.138.170.28 (talk) 20:00, 1 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Graphist opinion(s): Probable best to leave as is - Any substitute that is not a derivative work would fail to convey the meaning intended, and the resolution is sufficient to maintain the quality of the organization - FOX 52 (talk) 21:33, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

WPME (2007)
Article(s): WPME

Request
 * Can anyone make this logo Scalable? I see a tag on the info page requesting that somebody make this logo Scalable.
 * I'm not sure whether this logo can be made to be Scalable, for although the white background could be manually removed so that the image could have Transparent Background, the "my" (which is also White) would need to NOT be Transparent; therefore, a mere one-step background color replace (replacing all White Background with Transparent Background) would probably not work on this image.

50.138.170.28 (talk) 15:20, 28 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Graphist opinion(s): Probable best to leave as is - Any substitute that is not a derivative work would fail to convey the meaning intended, and the resolution is sufficient to maintain the quality of the organization - FOX 52 (talk) 21:33, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

WPXT
Article(s): WPXT

Request
 * Can anyone make this logo Scalable?

50.138.170.28 (talk) 20:00, 1 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Graphist opinion(s): Probable best to leave as is - Any substitute that is not a derivative work would fail to convey the meaning intended, and the resolution is sufficient to maintain the quality of the organization - FOX 52 (talk) 21:33, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

WABI-TV
Article(s): WABI-TV

Request
 * Can anyone make this logo Scalable?

50.138.170.28 (talk) 20:00, 1 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Graphist opinion(s): Probable best to leave as is - Any substitute that is not a derivative work would fail to convey the meaning intended, and the resolution is sufficient to maintain the quality of the organization - FOX 52 (talk) 21:33, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

WABI-DT2
Article(s): WABI-TV & WABI-DT2

Request
 * Can anyone make this logo Scalable with Transparent Background?

50.138.170.28 (talk) 20:00, 1 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Graphist opinion(s): Probable best to leave as is - Any substitute that is not a derivative work would fail to convey the meaning intended, and the resolution is sufficient to maintain the quality of the organization - FOX 52 (talk) 21:33, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

WFVX
Article(s): WFVX-LD & WVII-TV

Request
 * Can anyone make this logo Scalable with Transparent Background?

50.138.170.28 (talk) 20:00, 1 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Graphist opinion(s): Probable best to leave as is - Any substitute that is not a derivative work would fail to convey the meaning intended, and the resolution is sufficient to maintain the quality of he organization - FOX 52 (talk) 21:33, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

WCVB-TV
Article(s): WCVB-TV

Request
 * Can anyone make this logo Scalable? The logo for sister station, WMUR-TV is already Scalable.

50.138.170.28 (talk) 03:30, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Graphist opinion(s): Probable best to leave as is - Any substitute that is not a derivative work would fail to convey the meaning intended, and the resolution is sufficient to maintain the quality of the organization - FOX 52 (talk) 21:33, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

WHDH
Article(s): WHDH (TV)

Request
 * Can anyone make this logo Scalable?

50.138.170.28 (talk) 20:00, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Graphist opinion(s): Probable best to leave as is - Any substitute that is not a derivative work would fail to convey the meaning intended, and the resolution is sufficient to maintain the quality of the organization - FOX 52 (talk) 21:33, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

WSBK-TV
Article(s): WSBK-TV

Request
 * Can anyone make this logo Scalable?

50.138.170.28 (talk) 20:00, 1 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Graphist opinion(s): Probable best to leave as is - Any substitute that is not a derivative work would fail to convey the meaning intended, and the resolution is sufficient to maintain the quality of the organization - FOX 52 (talk) 21:33, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

WBKB-TV
Article(s): WBKB-TV

Request
 * Can anyone make this logo Scalable?

50.138.170.28 (talk) 20:00, 1 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Graphist opinion(s): Probable best to leave as is - Any substitute that is not a derivative work would fail to convey the meaning intended, and the resolution is sufficient to maintain the quality of the organization - FOX 52 (talk) 21:33, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

WBKB-DT2
Article(s): WBKB-TV & WBKB-DT2

Request
 * Can anyone make this logo Scalable?

50.138.170.28 (talk) 20:00, 1 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Graphist opinion(s): Probable best to leave as is - Any substitute that is not a derivative work would fail to convey the meaning intended, and the resolution is sufficient to maintain the quality of the organization - FOX 52 (talk) 21:33, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

WBKB-ABC
Article(s): WBKB-TV & WBKB-DT3

Request
 * Can anyone make this logo Scalable?

50.138.170.28 (talk) 20:00, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Graphist opinion(s): Probable best to leave as is - Any substitute that is not a derivative work would fail to convey the meaning intended, and the resolution is sufficient to maintain the quality of the organization - FOX 52 (talk) 21:33, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

=Resolved=

Clean out Vectorize alphabet category
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Alphabet_images_that_should_be_in_SVG_format

Article(s): Thorn (letter) and friends, Pitman shorthand Request:
 * Vectorize 'em all! Let's clean out this aging category.  The funny-looking "p" letter is actually the Thorn (letter)

Graphist opinion(s):
 * Thanks! Good progress. Sn1pe! 00:34, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
 * It's ok if you can't finish in time, leave your work here so someone else will know what to finish up on. Sn1pe! (talk)(edits) 17:41, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Almost done, just a simple table left! Sn1pe! (talk)(edits) 18:14, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

✅: The Haz talk 20:10, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

7th Century Snow Lion Standard
Article(s): Flag of Tibet Request:
 * Could someone please try and create an SVG image of the 7th century snow lion standard of the Tibetan Emperor, Songtsen Gampo, found at http://tibetanblogstation.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/jn4.png

Graphist opinion(s): ✅ Jon C (talk) 15:05, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
 * The original is of poor resolution, and the flag had folds in addition to the lines. I did my best in interpreting the shading.

Request to vectorize
Request:
 * Am preparing a GA nomination for Recurrent laryngeal nerve and as has pointed out in the peer review, the main image is pretty crumby. I was wondering if any kind folks here would be able to vectorise the main image ?--LT910001 (talk) 03:45, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):
 * desiderata beyond a basic vectorization? Jon C (talk) 15:10, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
 * ✅ Jon C (talk) 14:25, 5 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment: Looks v nice. One thing I noted is the coloring, which is good, but I am not sure if the purple coloring should extend all the way to where the nerve branches from the main trunk of the vagus. Advise await LT910001's opinion on this.  Lesion  ( talk ) 14:38, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Looks fantastic, am exceedingly pleased with this image. If possible, would you be able to show the vagus nerve continuing, as seen in the original image, rather than terminating? I feel this may confuse some readers. Other than that, would like to say that this image is very pleasing to the eye! LT910001 (talk) 13:39, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Glad the picture is well-accepted. I have made the changes as advised by both of you: coloring the recurrent nerve behind aortic arch with a tint of purple, and extending the vagus nerve downwards (clearly no anatomist here!)  You may need to refresh your browser to see the changes.  Jon C (talk) 03:21, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Great, I'm very happy with the final product. If needed, any chance we'd be able to ping you in the future, ? LT910001 (talk) 04:09, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I'll try to help, but work during the academic year is all-consuming, and I tend to only have bursts of activity here over holidays. (Lunar New Year here.)  Seeing you are happy with the figure, I've marked this one off as resolved.  Jon C (talk) 04:22, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Apologies, the diagram is still misleading with its colors. It suggests that the L recurrent laryngeal n begins as it passes underneath the aortic arch, which does not correspond to the description in the article. To clarify, the purple color should extend all the way to where the nerve branches from the vagus main trunk. Sorry to be difficult. Lesion  ( talk ) 08:58, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Not difficult at all - thank you for trying to get it right. I've made the fixes as requested.  Jon C (talk) 05:01, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes I believe that is now correct, thank you. I am sure LT will correct this decision if it is wrong, but as far as I can see it now matches the description of the nerve in the article. Thank you again, Lesion  ( talk ) 10:54, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
 * No further comments, picture looks excellent, thanks for your astute observation Lesion, and again to Jkwchui. --LT910001 (talk) 03:43, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

AllTrials Logo
Article(s): AllTrials Request: Vectorize please.

This is the logo of a non-profit science advocacy group. I know logos are often dubious vectorization territory, but I've been given permission to make this request by the organisation (quoted below), and any decent SVG version will likely be used by them.

On (lack of) copyright issues -- the page of this image lists it as public domain. As the logo of an organisation, used in an article about them, it is fair use. The organization website says "Feel free to use the content on our site for non-commercial purposes (Copyright CC BY-NC-ND 3.0)". Finally, the organization says:

"We don't have an SVG version of the logo - feel free to ask the Wikipedians to make one" - Chris Peters

-- HLHJ (talk) 21:05, 10 February 2014 (UTC) Graphist opinion(s):
 * Images released under non-commercial licenses are considered non-free on WP and Commons. AFAIK, for such images to be uploaded to Commons/WP as "free" files, you should convince the copyright holder to release them under an accepted license. I don't know whether this particular file would reasonably be copyright-ineligible for consisting of simple shapes and text. SiBr4 (talk) 21:34, 10 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Fair enough. I'll e-mail them again and ask. I didn't tag it as copyright-ineligible -- I'm no expert -- so thank you for alerting me. I just had a look around, and a lot of logos/trademarks on WM seem to be tagged like that. What license do you think would be appropriate? Am I right to assume that it's OK to go ahead with using and vectorizing it even if it isn't free, under fair use? HLHJ (talk) 22:53, 10 February 2014 (UTC)


 * I wouldn't bother emailing them about that as they'll probably just reply that everything on their site is "CC BY-NC-ND 3.0". That logo is made up of 2 simple geometric shapes and simple text, and therefore almost guaranteed to be ineligible for copyright in the United States. More complicated logos are not eligible for copyright (see the copyright examples page). However, I changed the license template from PD-text to PD-textlogo. The Haz talk 00:30, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

✅: The Haz talk 00:46, 11 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much! It looks very smart. I did e-mail them, and although your second version looks more like the original, they actually prefer your first SVG version, because it's clearer to read; I think perceptual difference in the text aspect ratio might also be an influence. Would you mind terribly having the old one as the current version?HLHJ (talk) 21:04, 11 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Reverted. The Haz talk 22:15, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Narendra Modi
.png of signature

Article(s): Narendra Modi Request:
 * Please correct the vectorisation of the signature -- RaviC (talk) 18:36, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):
 * ✅: As this SVG was based on a specific image (namely the one found at Indian Autographs, I re-vectorized it based on that image. It's more or less standard that if you are going to use a different source autograph, you should create a new file and not overwrite the old one. The Haz talk 22:28, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Association of Scouts of Azerbaijan
Article(s): Association of Scouts of Azerbaijan Request:
 * left petal paler blue to match flag/org website, svg if can... -- Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 03:32, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):




 * ✅ - colors based on the Azerbaijan flag - FOX 52 (talk) 04:31, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Fantastic, thank you, and man was that fast!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 04:37, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Confederate States of America
Article(s): Confederate States of America Request:
 * whole set has been nominated for deletion, on use across multiple wikis. best way to avoid this is to create new png or svg versions, no text, no grey background, just focus on insignia. badges themselves are PD. note the blue should not be the peacock blue shown here, but a subdued blue like File:Confederate States of America Sergeant Major-Infantry.jpg-- Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 03:39, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s): Ok I'll see what I can do


 * That blue is perfect, thank you! Carry on! :) --Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 09:03, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Good job so far! I think, to make life easier, the information and licenses can be corrected as you upload the SVGs. First, the license is some form of PD. The original designs are definitely public domain by now and the derivative works do not meet the threshold for copyright, so they remain PD. The old images also have incorrect licenses, but you can at least have yours be correct (I've done the ones you uploaded so far). I also deleted the old Permission that was written in some as it was incorrect. Lastly, I added the Derived from template to signify that they were derived from other images already on Commons.
 * Good job so far! I think, to make life easier, the information and licenses can be corrected as you upload the SVGs. First, the license is some form of PD. The original designs are definitely public domain by now and the derivative works do not meet the threshold for copyright, so they remain PD. The old images also have incorrect licenses, but you can at least have yours be correct (I've done the ones you uploaded so far). I also deleted the old Permission that was written in some as it was incorrect. Lastly, I added the Derived from template to signify that they were derived from other images already on Commons.


 * I noticed a strange deletion request on one file... something about OTRS. However, the images are derivatives of public domain designs and they definitely do not meet the threshold of originality. OTRS permission is not needed for these. The files should have either a template or text stating that they are derivative of what was found at the source listed. The current text is misleading. Also, they need the correct license, I suggest using PD-ineligible as the template explains it plainly. The Haz talk 05:26, 18 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Don't worry about editing the old ones. I ended up just doing them quickly. The Haz talk 05:42, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Ok Thanks - FOX 52 (talk) 17:56, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Beautiful and fast! Sorry I crashed quick last night. Labeled one quick fix.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 17:29, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Cool Thanks - FOX 52 (talk) 22:16, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
 * ✅ - FOX 52 (talk) 08:29, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Request To Convert Into A PNG Image File

 * I'd like to place a request that image get converted into a PNG Image file to the WNYQ article. It would really mean a lot to me if this image could be uploaded to the WNYQ article as a PNG Image file to appear at this link. Please, forgive me for not following the procedure or formatting perfectly. This is the very first request I've ever placed to Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Illustration workshop.
 * Current Format = GIF | Desired Format = PNG

50.138.170.28 (talk) 14:00, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):
 * If your request is just to replace the GIF file in the WNYQ article with the PNG file you linked to, that was done by Armbrust today. SiBr4 (talk) 12:05, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

British Central Africa
Article(s): British Central Africa Request:
 * clean up bottom scroll... -- Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 11:25, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):
 * ✅ - only fixed the ribbon, left text untouched - FOX 52 (talk) 17:29, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Please touch the text-it's crude and mis-centered.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 10:07, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Beautiful! Danke schon! (as they say in British Central Africa)--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 10:14, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Please touch the text-it's crude and mis-centered.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 10:07, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Beautiful! Danke schon! (as they say in British Central Africa)--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 10:14, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

"Burgers" Flag of the South African Republic
Article(s): List of South African flags Request:
 * Could someone please create an SVG file of the "Burgers" Flag used for the South African Republic from 1874-1875 found at https://flagspot.net/images/z/za-burgr.gif. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.134.90.140 (talk) 19:33, 21 February 2014

Graphist opinion(s):
 * ✅. Not a very difficult request; pretty much guessing at the width of the saltire. SiBr4 (talk) 20:08, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
 * ✅. Not a very difficult request; pretty much guessing at the width of the saltire. SiBr4 (talk) 20:08, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Update map for Forced Labour Convention treaty
Article(s): Forced Labour Convention, International Labour Organization Request:
 * First, convert to SVG. Second, change Canada from red to green (Canada ratified the treaty on 13 June 2011). -- Kaldari (talk) 02:07, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):


 * ✅ - FOX 52 (talk) 03:25, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
 * ✅ - FOX 52 (talk) 03:25, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Historical coat of arms of Greece
Request:
 * The coat of arms of Greece during the Wittelsbach Dynasty needs a few fixes. The black border on the white cross in the shield needs to be removed, and also the length of the arms of white cross should equal and they don't quite appear to be. Furthermore, the flag of Bavaria should be in the shape of a shield, like the 3 Lions of Denmark are on this coat of arms.  Fry1989  eh?  22:45, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):
 * ✅ - hopefully that will do FOX 52 (talk) 01:19, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
 * It's an improvement, but the edges of the cross should be straight and not rounded, and the Bavarian flag inescutcheon still needs to be shield shaped.  Fry1989  eh?  01:40, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Not sure what you seeing with rounded edges, from my end they're straight - have replaced the shield again. On a side note I used this shield first as you suggested, it has been replaced with one from here - FOX 52 (talk) 03:01, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
 * The old shield shape was fine, what I meant was the little flag of Bavaria in the middle of the white cross is supposed to be shield shaped, right now it is a square. It's supposed to be in a little shield on top, just like the three lions on this file, or like this flag but without the crown.  Fry1989  eh?  04:11, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Ok try this - FOX 52 (talk) 06:59, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
 * That's great, thank you.  Fry1989  eh?  19:09, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Ok try this - FOX 52 (talk) 06:59, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
 * That's great, thank you.  Fry1989  eh?  19:09, 27 February 2014 (UTC)