Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Illustration workshop/Archive/Jan 2017

Coat of arms of Hastings

 * Article(s):
 * Hastings

Can someone please revectorize this coat of arms? The file there now looks very poorly traced. if it helps, here is a page showing several variants of the coat of arms https://ngw.nl/heraldrywiki/index.php?title=Hastings. I also ask if it is possible to have this done by 14 October (the 950th anniversary of the Battle of Hastings)? Thanks in advance.--109.77.180.225 (talk) 16:26, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Request:
 * Graphist opinion(s):


 * , are you still working on this? --AntiCompositeNumber (Leave a message) 19:22, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

It really isn't a very nice vectorisation, and seeing as User:Sodacan seems to be busy with other things, I'll give it a shot. ✅

Symbols of East Timorese municipalities

 * Article(s):
 * Aileu District, Oecusse District


 * Request:
 * Two districts (municipalities) of East Timor have adopted symbols.


 * The Região Administrativa Especial de Oe-cusse Ambeno has a logo:, . Colours better to see here: . Further images.
 * In this publication you can find below the CoA of East Timor an "A", made by roots. It is a memorial and symbol of the districts. The map is just an Add on, which was taken from Wikipedia. ;-)


 * Can someone draw the logo and the root-A, please? -- J. Patrick Fischer (talk) 13:02, 15 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Graphist opinion(s):

Organizations logos

 * Article(s):
 * Asian Paints Ltd, Berger Paints India, Bharatiya Janata Party, Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh


 * Request:
 * Please Vectorize.--Shashipushpa (talk) 05:41, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
 * How long shall it take to vectorize just four images ? It has been four days since it has been posted.--Shashipushpa (talk) 04:01, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

we are all volunteers, not employees, it is also thanksgiving in the U.S. so you should keep that in mind when posting your comments. If you want my own personal reason for skipping over this request, I see no reason to convert non-free images to vector. (1) This goes against the non-free usage requirements (i.e. requiring a low resolution image that can't be used as replacement for the original image). There is no such thing as low resolution with vector images, so it fails that requirement and fails the requirement of not being able to be used as a replacement for a original high quality image. (2) The non-free content guidelines are also against this "editors who upload vector images of non-free logos should use a vector image that was produced by the copyright holder of the logo and should not use a vector image ... (that) have been done without authorization from the logo's copyright holder." If you want to see what it takes to make vector images, download Inkscape, it is free software that a lot of editors use to make/edit vector images. Since you are getting impatient thought I would inform you of my personal reasons for not taking on the request. Offnfopt (talk) 13:55, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Graphist opinion(s):
 * , ok ok no problem pls take ur time and convert these images to SVG, actually i didn't know that its thanksgiving day in US. I'm new thats why i don't the basic of Wikipedia.Thanks--Shashipushpa (talk) 04:49, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

Irish Naval Jack - More Accurate Image
That's great, thanks again! User:Snow Lion Fenian

Separation Flag - Queensland
✅ - I think the bright cyan on the example image was wrong, so I used the powder blue from another Queensland flag, like in the example at http://flagsocietyofaustralia.blogspot.de/2013/12/some-of-significant-historical-flags-of.html. --Slashme (talk) 15:58, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

Irish Flag with 1916 Proclamation
✅ - I've left the text portion as a bitmap inside the SVG, because there would be no benefit and a massive increase in file size by tracing it. --Slashme (talk) 15:45, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

Combined Murray River Flag

 * Article(s):
 * Murray River Flag, List of Australian flags, Flags depicting the Southern Cross


 * Request:
 * Could someone please create an SVG file of the "Combined" Murray River Flag (used on vessels on the river in New South Wales), found at http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/a/au~mre.gif. Thanks. User:Snow Lion Fenian
 * That flag does exist.  Fry1989 eh? 18:02, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, I wasn't aware. I got the impression it wasn't, because I didn't see it on any articles relating to the Murray River flag. But while we're on the subject of flags, is there any chance you could take on my 1876-1904 South Australian flag request? User:Snow Lion Fenian
 * , no need to apologise. Sadly though, I won't be able to take your other request. That badge is far beyond my abilities. ''' Fry1989 [[User talk:Fry1989|

eh? ]] ''' 18:12, 3 January 2017 (UTC) Fair enough, no problem. Though maybe you'd be able to take on my other request instead, the one relating to the indigenous flags of Australia, even if it is a bit of a tall order? User:Snow Lion Fenian
 * Graphist opinion(s):

Symbols of the "French State"

 * Article(s):
 * Request:
 * The "French State" was the collaborationist French government during WWII. I've recently found an old book with images of the national symbols. We do have File:Informal emblem of the French State (1940–1944).svg, but I was hoping someone could create an alternative file of the baton/axes that is more like in the book. Please also create "le cartouche", the logo of the French State.  Fry1989 eh? 21:39, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
 * The "French State" was the collaborationist French government during WWII. I've recently found an old book with images of the national symbols. We do have File:Informal emblem of the French State (1940–1944).svg, but I was hoping someone could create an alternative file of the baton/axes that is more like in the book. Please also create "le cartouche", the logo of the French State.  Fry1989 eh? 21:39, 30 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Graphist opinion(s):


 * , let me know what you think. I took some liberties to make the spacing more even (for instance, the spacing between stars on the shaft of the baton) and enhance symmetry. I used simplified colors from the original raster which may have faded/aged compared to the original printing, so I wasn't sure if they should also be updated: #b42 Red, #123 Blue , and #440 Gold . I'm also not sure what the original link in gallica.bnf.fr is, so if you could edit the descriptions to add a link to the source I would appreciate it.
 * Cheers, Mliu92 (talk) 18:01, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
 * }, WOW! Thank you so much, it is perfect and amazing. The colours are a bit dark since it is a scan of a faded document but that is understandable. I may change the colours a bit in the future if that is ok with you, but for now I couldn't be more happy.  Fry1989 eh? 20:32, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
 * }, WOW! Thank you so much, it is perfect and amazing. The colours are a bit dark since it is a scan of a faded document but that is understandable. I may change the colours a bit in the future if that is ok with you, but for now I couldn't be more happy.  Fry1989 eh? 20:32, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

A Man Was Lynched Yesterday

 * Article(s):
 * African-American Civil Rights Movement (1896–1954)


 * Request:
 * I'd like to recreate this flag as a vector image file. It's skewed from our current Commons image, so I tried rotating this one (has a few extra words to delete) and trace it in Inkscape, but I couldn't get the typeface's lines to be in-line and straight enough without a lot of manual tweaking. Hoping that a pro would have an easier time, or perhaps some advice for a neophyte. The type is custom and I'd like to preserve it if possible, but if it helps, it appears between a Generica Condensed Pro Bold and Mechanic Gothic. (Also please ping me when you respond.) czar  05:11, 1 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Graphist opinion(s):

I uploaded a new version. Let me know what you think. I redrew it using custom vector shapes, with a fair amount of rough eyeballing so some of the shapes are off (I take my hat off to professional font designers – the two "S" characters were enough to make me tear my thinning hair out). I also assumed a 1:2 aspect ratio for the flag based on some measurements of the attached raster. Cheers, Mliu92 (talk) 04:02, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
 * , thanks! Looks great! Is the trick just patience and node re-placement, or were you able to get a pretty good trace from the raster? When I played with the documentary photo in GIMP, it appeared to be more like a 2:3 ratio—looks a little long in the current version. Also a small white border around the outside would help it pop. Thanks so much—it really does look fantastic! czar  08:19, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
 * , you're welcome. I scaled it in the horizontal direction to be 2:3 aspect ratio and added a small white border. Hopefully that works better than the first draft.
 * If you're interested, the gory detail:
 * The process wasn't quite tracing; I imported the image into Inkscape, which has a measurement tool, and took some pixel-level measurements to obtain the ratios of letter heights to overall flag height. Then it was a matter of picking a canvas size (I chose 2400px high, but I tend to draw big) and figuring out the aspect ratio, letter and word spacing. I used the pixel measurement to set aspect ratio but this doesn't account for perspective effects and 2:3 does look nicer, thanks. 1:2 made it 1200px wide, though, which is what I started with.
 * Then for each line, I counted the number of stroke widths and spaces to come up with a "basic unit." For instance, the first line reads "A MAN WAS." Eyeballing the baseline of the first letter, it appears the letter "A" should be three stroke widths wide, and is spaced away from the "M" in "MAN" by approximately one stroke width; "M" is three strokes, "A" is another three strokes, "N" is 2.5 strokes ... etc. Using trial and error, I guessed the spacing between letters within a word was approximately 0.25 strokes. Count the total number of stroke widths along the baseline of each line and divide the 1200px width to come up with an actual measurement for stroke width for each line. The first line's stroke width worked out to 50px.
 * Then I built each letter based on eyeballing proportions and geometry; since I had the line height of each line from the measurement, for instance, I would create a box three stroke widths wide and sketch up an "A," assuming the "A" comes to a point that is one-half stroke width wide. Then I guessed the horizontal stroke was one stroke width wide, with the bottom of the horizontal one-quarter stroke width above the letter's baseline. After that it was just a matter of laying out each line and trying to remember the geometrical rules I had established for earlier letters to keep things looking consistent.
 * Inkscape has useful snapping tools which allow you to snap to line ends and midpoints (intersections are handled less gracefully), which came in handy to draw letters. I have an informal background in CAD so the snapping tools make sense and I almost always draw on a grid 10px on a side to make my life easier, too, especially for regular geometric shapes like the letters in this flag. Cheers, Mliu92 (talk) 16:28, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
 * , thanks for typing that out—I didn't think of measuring it manually like that (but I don't even know how to construct letters manually so that's another subject...) If you have any thoughts or advice on Inkscape's bitmap trace, I'll likely use it in the future and can use said advice, but otherwise thanks again for your help with this request (and the excellent results!) czar  19:02, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

Flag of Victoria, 1901-1953

 * Article(s):
 * Flag of Victoria, Tudor Crown (heraldry)


 * Request:
 * Okay, could someone please create an SVG file of the version of the flag of Victoria used from 1901-1953 (with the Tudor Crown instead of St. Edward's Crown), using the two images above. Thanks. User:Snow Lion Fenian


 * Graphist opinion(s):

✅ – Thommy (talk) 15:28, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

Scout Association of Hong Kong
File:Progressive badges (Scout Association of Hong Kong).png
 * Article(s):
 * Scout Association of Hong Kong


 * Request:
 * please remove huge excess white space, arrows and text, and straighten alignment, thanks… -- Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 15:26, 8 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Graphist opinion(s):
 * New version added  Tsange  ☯ Talk 15:01, 21 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I totally didn't see this.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 03:25, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

Flag of South Australia, 1876-1904
Nice, very well done indeed! (Though I think there's supposed to be a small kangaroo etched into the cliff face behind the Aboriginal, as you may notice if you look at the badge again. But still, great work!) User:Snow Lion Fenian

Australian road signs needed to be in SVG (part 2)

 * Looks done to me! Thanks for picking that up. --AntiCompositeNumber (Leave a message) 17:13, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

Belfast Coat of Arms

 * Article(s):
 * Belfast


 * Request:
 * Please replace tanta by tanto, as the city's motto is "Pro tanto quid retribuamus". -- Komischn (talk) 00:02, 30 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Graphist opinion(s):

Fixed.  Tsange  ☯ Talk 16:24, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

Flag of Launceston
Thanks, great work as usual! User:Snow Lion Fenian

Anglican Church of Australia - Flag
Thanks! User:Snow Lion Fenian

Higashihiroshima

 * Article(s):
 * Higashihiroshima


 * Request:
 * based on http://www.city.higashihiroshima.lg.jp/ please create the flag of Higashihiroshima. It is the little green "wing" glyph on the banner, actually 2 nested ひ, in hiragana, like HH. Should be white on green… -- Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 12:49, 14 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Graphist opinion(s):
 * , it appears there is already an existing flag, and I added a link to it. Please let us know if that's not what you're looking for. It looks nicer than the version I was making based on the low-resolution thumbnail. Cheers, Mliu92 (talk) 22:35, 14 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Fantastic, totally missed that, thank you!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 01:48, 15 January 2017 (UTC)