Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Illustration workshop/Archive/Nov 2009

=Stale=

Modify image Amarrage.svg
Article(s): Mooring Request: Things to improve: Thanks, KVDP (talk) 10:58, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
 * the same lines don't come back in bow or stern variant; eg there is the "forward breast line", but no "forward stern line", there is the "after bow", but no "forward stern", there is the quarter breast line but the same line is mentioned at the back by forward quarter spring line", ...
 * there are no left and right boulders drawn on the boat (important when mooring with eg left or right wind; the left or right boulders need to be used first depending on this wind and the pier side on which the mooring is done
 * there is no spring line drawn from stern/bow to the boulder near the top or back respectively (full spring)


 * Could you provide a draft? --Beao 16:54, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

modified image of Active Solar Water Heater Diagram.svg
Article(s): Water heating Request: Active Solar Water Heater Diagram.svg is the basis for new image; the solar panel needs to be cut off in a new image; eg called Water heating system.svg (keep the active solar water heater digram in place) and it should be stated that the 2 pipes connect to a external (passive) source; eg a ground, water solar or air source; eg via heat pump, deep surface water (see also: Image:Heat pump system.jpg) or solar panel (see image above) KVDP (talk) 09:44, 18 August 2009 (UTC) Graphist opinion(s):
 * Should be easy. --Slashme (talk) 16:57, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
 * OK, I've taken a look at it, and now I have a few questions:
 * How exactly is the circuit to the water heater tied in? Shouldn't the water heater be taking partially heated water from the solar or other system, heating it to the required temperature, and feeding the appliances?
 * Indeed, the image is solar water heater diagram is drawn like this aswell. The only modification to the image would be that you draw 3 systems; namely a solar collector, and 3 heat pumps (air, soil and groundwater; see the heat pump system image). Perhaps the 3 devices and pipes are best colored in green so as to make it more clear that only one of the three is used; not all together. The text should make this clear too; mark all devices with the number 1 (like in the solar water heater diagram)
 * Yes, but I think this image is wrong: the appliances should get their hot water from the water heater, not the warm water tank. The solar heater or heat pump warms the cold water to a warm temperature.  this water then goes to the water heater, and then to the appliances.  In this image, the appliances get their water from the warm water tank, which is clearly wrong. --Slashme (talk) 15:35, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
 * No, that's right, the tank here is for hot water storage; however the illustration here is too complex and confusing. The basic idea of an active solar water heater is to pump heated liquid through a heat exchanger (coil) based low in the hot water tank via a collector unit on the roof; that's all there is to it. There are several variations on this, including pumping the tank water itself to the roof (no heat exchanger); use of an electrical element in the upper part of the tank; having auxiliary heat sources (eg central heating) run a supplementary heat exchanger higher in the tank (I guess that's the illustration we have here); and on-demand supplementary heating of drawn-off tank water (the way you're describing it above). There are probably others, but they're all active, pumped systems. I'd stick to that basic configuration, maybe leaving room in the diagram for variations. --mikaultalk 21:07, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't understand: if you want hot water at 50°C from the tap, that's what the temperature of your hot water cylinder has to be. If you put 50°C water through a roof panel, you're surely just heating up your roof!  What am I missing? --Slashme (talk) 11:53, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
 * In the example shown above, hot water isn't pumped to the roof, it's a coolant-based liquid that is heated on the roof which exchanges its heat at the coil. As an aside, in the basic active system without a coil / heat exchanger, the system needs to be configured to only pump the actual hot water to the roof when water temp is cooler than the roof collector temp. I once saw a very basic version of this that had a pump manually switched on when the sun was out; like I said, there are many variations. Anyway... I think what you're missing is the convective action in the cyclinder: a typical system has a coil low in the tank, where the water is coolest, while an electric element mounted high in the tank "tops up" the water temp before it's drawn off above that. Any decent system will switch off the roof circuit pump at night, for example. Does that clarify things? --mikaultalk 21:48, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
 * It still seems wrong: You're drawing water from the municipal supply at (for example) 15 °C.  Putting that through a solar heating system before letting it into the heating cylinder is a big win.  Say it gets in at the roof temperature of, for example, 45 °C, and it now only has to be heated about 5 °C before it's warm enough to go out the tap.  On the other hand, putting cool municipal water directly into a heating cylinder and then trying to do solar heating in the cylinder seems really strange!  If you have a warm coil at the bottom of the cylinder where the cold water comes in, you'll set up a strong convection current which will tend to mix the water in the cylinder, so I don't see how the idea of relying on a temperature gradient in the cylinder holds water (if you'll excuse the pun).  Usually, we have a principle that illustrations have less stringent citation standards than text, but I'd really like to see a reliable source that shows that it is normal to pump coolant from a roof through a hot water cylinder.  I could believe a heat pump working between a roof and a hot water cylinder, though. --Slashme (talk) 08:12, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Seeing as we have a municipal water inlet shown, shouldn't the water outlets from the appliances also be shown going to drain?
 * For the drain, I personally wouldn't show it in the image. You may offcourse, but then the drain would in the end need to run to a purifier; this as the runoff water can be contaminated (depending on whether or not chemical soaps, ... are used). With autonomous systems this purifier would be based near the house and not somewhere else; with the drain ending in the "sewers". The complication thus is that it can be run to the sewers, to a domestic purifier (eg reed bed, sand or other filters, ...) or simply to the back garden (if no chemical soaps, ... are used).
 * OK, then I'll just draw a "warm waste" pipe leaving the house, and not show where it goes. This will at least allow one to see all the inputs and outputs from the house. --Slashme (talk) 15:35, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Personally, I wouldn't, it's just not relevant to the supply and distribution of the water. There's no electricity supply pictured either, just as integral a part as waste water. Too much info; keep it simple. --mikaultalk 21:07, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
 * OK --Slashme (talk) 11:53, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
 * My "mail me" link works, so drop me a mail to prod me on this one, and I'll do it over the weekend. --Slashme (talk) 17:14, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

American football helmet
Article(s): any related to American football, e.g. Cleveland Browns Request: Vectorize! ;) What I am looking for is a detailed, technical illustration of a blank American football helmet (no logos or anything). It would be nice if the helmet elements (faceplate, helmet) were grouped and selectable so that users could change their fill colors, and add logos and such to represent the various NFL/college/etc teams. (no need for a chin strap or any fancy details) You don't have to use those two images, but I suggested them because the photos are PD (not sure about the industrial design/logo design) More images can be found at commons:Category:American football helmets. File:Navy football helmet.jpg is nearly perfect, except that I am almost positive this is a copyvio, and the underlying helmet illustration (which I've seen on other websites like NFL.com) is copyrighted. This would replace File:Cleveland Browns helmet rightface.png, which is up for FFD, and such a blank helmet illustration surely would come in handy for countless other articles. Due to how this base image is going to be modified and used frequently, it may be nice if the graphist considered licensing the work PD as well.Andrew c [talk] 22:39, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):
 * I have uploaded 2 rough drafts I've been working on. They don't seem quite right though. I' having problems with the face mask, and establishing depth. I've uploaded them in case someone wants to improve them or use parts for their own illustrations. -Andrew c [talk] 15:15, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Peoples of Bolivia
Article(s): Jesuit Missions of the Chiquitos Request: Increase font size, see Graphic_Lab/Map_workshop. 80.187.104.40 (talk) 20:01, 20 October 2009 (UTC) Graphist opinion(s):

Coat of Arms of Saskatchewan
Article(s): Saskatchewan Request: I recently uploaded this from an AI file from brandsoftheworld.com, but it has not uploaded properly. Can someone attempt to fix? Link Thanks. Connormah (talk) 03:47, 19 October 2009 (UTC) Graphist opinion(s):


 * It seems alright. What's the problem in specific?  Zoo Fari  22:09, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
 * From the version I see, some colors are missing on the figure under the beaver. Connormah (talk) 21:36, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I gave this one a try but couldn't fix it. The svg is huge. Perhaps it could be possible to merge the paths and 'mosaic' the image, then re-save. Do you know what I mean?  SPLETTE &#32;:]&#32;How's my driving? 15:48, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Wetaskiwin Flag
Article(s): Wetaskiwin Request: Vectorize, then upload under a non-free fairuse rationale. Connormah (talk) 23:28, 28 October 2009 (UTC) Graphist opinion(s):

New flag of Astana
Article(s): Astana Request: Please retrace to SVG format. Connormah (talk) 00:53, 29 October 2009 (UTC) Graphist opinion(s):

Globes with new parallells and meridians
Article(s): Earth, Circle of latitude, Meridians article. Request:

From the image above, 2 new images need to be made, with each image having 2 globes drawn on them. The first globe of each image would need to be a globe with lines running towards 2 central points (these central points being the north and south pole) for the circles of latitude and the central point for the circles of longtitude being a point in the exact middle of the globe (at 0°N 0°E, or just below Accra (Ghana))

The 2 images (both with 2 globes) would need to differ from each other in the fact the the "top" of the second one would be offset to the left (meaning instead of the north pole the area more left towards the 70° parallell become the top) This will mean that both the meridians as their "alternative circles of longtitude (not sure whether what I'm proposing already has a name)" would need to be changed aswell.

I'm not sure how exactly the drawings can be made, but I'm guessing that with Google Sketchup, the making of the globe (which can be made from a simple orb with values as indicated at the earth page; eg 40,075.02 km (equatorial), 40,007.86 km (meridional) ) can be done easily. Using the same tool, a skin may be applied which should simply be a map of the earth; showing the land masses, then, the required lines can be made unto the orb. For the second image then, the axial tilt (23.439281°) can be added, and the lines redrawn. After this, the file can be exported to an image or something else (3D cinematic ?) See Talk:Earth/Archive_10 for the initial discussion.

The image would be very important as the meridians and parallells are used frequently and worldwide by anyone. Though I'm not sure, I'm guessing that this new system may allow easier navigation (eg regarding determination of magnetic variation with compasses)

KVDP (talk) 11:14, 31 October 2009 (UTC) Graphist opinion(s):

Shuttle-Mir Patch
Article(s): Shuttle-Mir Program and related articles & templates. Request: Could someone please get rid of all the squiggly lines on this SVG, so that we can begin to use it in the relevant articles and templates? As a patch, it should be blocks of primary colours, and the squiggles seem to have originated in the poor quality of the original image's digitisation. Many thanks, Colds7ream (talk) 12:52, 16 September 2009 (UTC) Graphist opinion(s):


 * I'll give this a shot.
 * Thanks! :-) If it's any help, you can find a version with the correct colours here: . Colds7ream (talk) 08:57, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Added a PNG version based on until a good vector version exists or official vector version is found. — raeky ( talk 06:18, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that's much better in the meantime. :-) Colds7ream (talk) 22:02, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
 * The png is a huge improvement to the svg (autotraced svgs are pointless for these types of images). Some details are missing/wrong in the png though. Firstly the yellow circle around the grey area is actually part of the surrounding ribbon and should be curved with it. Secondly the back f the ribbon should be coloured rather then grey (left and right of the image). /94.193.242.248 (talk) 01:46, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
 * You speak the truth - any way this can be easily corrected? Colds7ream (talk) 16:27, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Not stale. Colds7ream (talk) 07:41, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Windmovement on weathermaps
Article(s): Wind and others Request: This image is incorrect, it's the other way around. Cold/dry air is more dense and moves towards the hotter/more moist environment. See ; ask User:Thegreatdr and User:Short Brigade Harvester Boris for the any specifics you may still have on how the images need to look like (as I am myself a bit confused on how the images need to look like).
 * The image isn't very specific of what it's illustrating? Is it talking about the Coriolis effect? — raeky ( talk 17:05, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I think it was meant to show the flow of air around low and high pressure areas. Other than the quality, the big issue is with the airflow within the low, which should be cyclonically inward (counterclockwise northern hemisphere, clockwise southern hemisphere), not outward.  Thegreatdr (talk) 17:10, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Little Boy diagram
Article(s): Little Boy Request: Could use to be SVG with text that can be translated if needed. Probably should be done without all the text and most of the text in a caption. — raeky ( talk 15:23, 28 October 2009 (UTC) Graphist opinion(s):


 * File:Little Boy internal diagram.svg already exists. Does that fill the need? /129.215.149.97 (talk) 16:27, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * It's not nearly as detailed, the image I put up is prominently placed in the article and has a lot more things labeled. It could be used as a base maybe. — raeky ( talk 16:58, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The existing svg is a great base, but it still needs all the same numbering/lettering and arrows in the same spots as the more detailed version that is used in the article. — raeky ( talk 17:01, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Which details are missing from the simplified version (i.e. which details need more then just an arrow and a label)? So far I've spotted the electrical plugs, lift lug, alignment rods and the tungsten-carbide tamper plug. /Lokal_Profil 16:49, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Originally planned ISS configuration.
Article(s): International Space Station, Assembly of the International Space Station Request: Hey folks! I was wondering if someone wouldn't mind spending some time modifying this diagram to reflect the version of the station that was planned in 1999? This link shows what the plans were, and, as you can see, there's several extra modules that I'd like to have added to the diagram, and a couple that need to be moved or removed altogether. Whilst I'm not too bad at maintaining the current config image, I'm not so good at creating new modules! :-) I'd also appreciate it if, like the poster diagram, the new image could have its modules formatted in national colours, perhaps blue for US, red for Russia, or something like that? We'll be using it for a bit of historical context. Many thanks, Colds7ream (talk) 10:50, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Any thoughts at all? Colds7ream (talk) 09:20, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I can do it when I get the time. Maybe in a few days. --Beao 09:32, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks! :-) Colds7ream (talk) 17:31, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Not stale. Colds7ream (talk) 07:36, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

Bronze Wolf Award
Article(s): Bronze Wolf Award Request: Please improve the graphic, the photo will always be cockeyed. The ribbon should be dark green, not brown, and please clean up aesthetically if you have an eye for it. Thank you... Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 14:18, 7 November 2009 (UTC) Graphist opinion:

SVG of Pennsylvania Government Logos
Article(s): Articles in the List of Pennsylvania state agencies. Request: Vectoring the following fair use images:

Done - File:PHEAA logo.svg


 * I made it easier to follow. --Beao 20:55, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

These would look much better vectorized and cleaned up. Can someone please help?Blargh29 (talk) 05:16, 31 October 2009 (UTC) Graphist opinion(s): I'll take a look if I can find any PDF files containing any of these. Connormah (talk) 17:57, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

=Resolved=

Converting a drawn diagram to SVG
Article(s): Norton Canes services Request: Convert to SVG. Rockfang (talk) 03:48, 4 September 2009 (UTC) Graphist opinion(s):

SVG version above. I've realigned a few roads to match aerial photography and OS maps more closely, and provided some diesel for the HGVs. Certes (talk) 16:33, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
 * That initial attempt at an SVG was unsuitable: see discussion. Request not taken; I'll leave this one for someone else. Certes (talk) 19:49, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Question: If it wasn't that I was feeling a bit lazy (and that theres like 20 of them) I'd put it up for AfD again, but a question here since you're editing the page, I'd ask a single question, how in even the REMOTEST possible sense is the page this image is on even remotely notable. The logic in the 2006 AfD is laughable for the keep arguments.... — raeky ( talk 04:43, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

I've drawn the original diagram as an SVG. I've only changed the colour of the main building.--GMcGlinn (talk) 23:46, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Well done; thanks. I've proposed my effort (middle image above, or redlink if it's gone) for deletion. Certes (talk) 21:08, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Car Igniton System (Allumage batterie.svg)
Article(s): Ignition system Request: Translate labels into ENGLISH Please 220.101.28.25 (talk) 13:52, 27 October 2009 (UTC) Graphist opinion(s):
 * Please provide the translation of the individual words. /129.215.149.98 (talk) 16:02, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I tried to translate it using the english interwiki links on fr.wikipedia pages (fr:Bougies, ...etc). Tell me if it's good enough. --PiRK (talk) 20:29, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Thank you 129.215.149.98 and PiRK, It is very good, and done very quickly. Excellent!--220.101.28.25 (talk) 15:07, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Comment: SORRY one thing, where it says Inductor, it should read Ignition Coil. If that won't fit then just Coil would be fine, Thank You! --220.101.28.25 (talk) 16:08, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
 * ✅ You probably need to bypass your cache to see the modification. PiRK (talk) 17:26, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Comment: Thank You again PiRK, excellent speedy work!. The article is much improved, IMHO. I will probably have more for you in the near future!--220.101.28.25 (talk) 03:44, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi 220.101.28.25. I'm not visiting this page on a daily basis. Actually two days ago was the first time I came here. If you need my help again in the near future you should probably try to reach me on my talk page. I have some knowledge of how to edit vectorial files and I can perform some basic French<->English translations. But this svg translation work was a pretty easy job. You should give it a try, download Inkscape, download the original svg file on the file description page and see how easy it is to change or add text. You could also use the svg translation tool on wikimedia commons if the text length if the text lengths is similar enough after translation (if not, the text might cover some parts of the drawing). --PiRK (talk) 14:19, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Creation of Mortgage-Backed Securities
Illustration of Risk & Return of Mortgage-Backed Securities tranches to Investors

Article(s): Mortgage-backed security, Tranche Request: Make a free version; I just realized we can only use this under fair use; public record != public domain. I think a graphic showing how MBS are created is important because of their major role in the current financial mess, and we can do that w/o infringing on copyright. Source: predatorix dot com/files/cases/orix/SFEvsORIX.pdf Elvey (talk) 20:57, 31 October 2009 (UTC) Graphist opinion(s):

When anyone borrows money, they are assigned a credit rating, largely dependent on their ability to pay it back. There are a number of credit rating agencies, the two best known are S&P and Moody's. S&P credit ratings range from AAA to "unrated", while Moody's highest rating is Aaa. So the letters in the middle represent the S&P and Moody's rating symbols. A homeowner buying a mortgage has a Rating of "B" (same for S&P and Moody's). While B was a decent grade in school, it isn't very high on the credit scale. What happens is that a large number of B rated mortgages are combined into a pool. The payment streams are then divided up into what are called "tranches". This process creates a number of securities, with varying credit ratings. The interesting thing is that one can create a AAA rated security from B rated mortgages. The arrows on the right indicate the following information about each of the tranches - if there are losses, the losses first accrue to the unrated tranche, then to the B tranche etc. in order up the list. The credit risk for the top tranche is the lowest, and credit risk increases as you move down the tranches. The expected yield is lowest on the top tranche and increases as you move down the list.
 * I am working on it. Do you want anything in the figure changed? I don't understand a thing: AAA, Aa, BBB, BB, Ba ?!?!?! I hope it will make sense to other readers...
 * Ok, done. Let me know if you want anything changed.  SPLETTE &#32;:]&#32;How's my driving? 22:52, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * If it helps, here is an explanation of what is happening in the image:

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I'm an idiot ^_^
Article(s): Cranial Nerves Request: Hi! This image was requested a while ago, and looks brilliant. But, through my own stupidity I missed off a label from the original request. Would it be possible to label the unlabelled nerve "Trochlear" as in the Trochlear nerve. Thank you very much in advance, and sorry for being an idiot and missing it the first time!  Captain n00dle  T/C 16:20, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Is Trochlear the dark pink tube between Oculomotor and Trigeminal? Certes (talk) 17:58, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes it is thank you Certes, sorry I forgot to mention it :-)  Captain n00dle  T/C 00:44, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):✅ I added the label. --Beao 23:17, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Brilliant thanks!  Captain n00dle  T/C 10:49, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

The Buccinator (sounds like some B movie superhero....)
Article(s): Buccinator muscle Request: Would it be possible to update File:Buccinator.jpg from the original file to look more like the example given in the 3rd image, I think that it would look much more professional. Any opinions welcome  Captain n00dle  T/C 00:06, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * You mean shade it in red? --Vishnu2011 (talk) 17:08, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes please, most muscle articles on wikipedia seem to have Gray's Images shaded in red. Thanks!  Captain n00dle  T/C 17:24, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * p.s. I also think that the current image was taken from a lower quality version, although I may be wrong  Captain n00dle  T/C 17:25, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Do you want the image to be cropped like the first one?  SPLETTE &#32;:]&#32;How's my driving? 17:46, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * It would probably be a good idea so that it is easy enough to see on the thumbnail on the article. Nothing important is lost. Regards,  Captain n00dle  T/C 22:14, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

✅: Okay, I replaced the old version with the new one. By the way, the resolution was the same, the original pic was just cropped...  SPLETTE &#32;:]&#32;How's my driving? 02:00, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

WOSM
Article(s): WOSM Request: Change the People's Republic of China to the respective shades of pink, they have Scouting there now... Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 15:02, 30 October 2009 (UTC) Graphist opinion:
 * Done Lokal_Profil 01:58, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 13:18, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I missed two, I am sorry. Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 06:59, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * No worries. Also updated now. /Lokal_Profil 17:09, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

YYC Logo
Article(s): YYC Request: Please vectorise. Connormah (talk) 15:31, 19 September 2009 (UTC) Graphist opinion(s):

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 * Why? The image is fairly high resolution for a logo as it is. It's only use is a thumbnail in an infobox. Since this image is from an official source, and I don't see the point in creating a "bootleg" SVG, it isn't clear to me how an SVG would benefit in this situation. Perhaps we could search from an official source for an official vector version of the logo instead? -Andrew c [talk] 15:16, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
 * This PDF has a vector version of the logo, however cause "Calgary Airport Authority" is still text, and I don't have that proper font installed it messes up the spacing when I open it in Illustrator. --Svgalbertian (talk) 18:44, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
 * The font is 'Arrival', from a partner of Village. Connormah (talk) 15:59, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Using PDF2SVG I was able to convert the file without having to install the font. --Svgalbertian (talk) 04:19, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Book-class icon
,, , , ...

Article(s): WP:Books Request: I'm creating a new Book-Class for WP:Books. I would be nice to have an icon like those of Featured/A/Good/B/C/... Headbomb {{{sup|ταλκ}}κοντριβς – WP Physics} 18:02, 28 October 2009 (UTC) Graphist opinion(s):


 * are you wanting NEW icons that look like those, or what exactly is the request? — raeky ( talk 17:03, 2 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Yeah, a new icon similar to those above. Headbomb {{{sup|ταλκ}}κοντριβς – WP Physics} 17:10, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Found some book icons on Commons. Added them below (please add any others you find) should make it easier to find/discuss a basis for a new image. Commons:Category:Book icons should contain even more icons. /Lokal_Profil 17:02, 3 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Personally, I don't really have an opinion on which would be best. Take the one which'll be easier for you, or which you like best. Headbomb {{{sup|ταλκ}}<sub style="margin-left:-4.0ex;">κοντριβς – WP Physics} 18:07, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Be careful about using #2 as it is licensed LGPL, which is a software license, not an image license, thus you could have trouble legally using derivatives in certain situations. Kaldari (talk) 19:17, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 * 5 might be the easiest to recognise for such a small image. /Lokal_Profil 23:49, 10 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I threw together File:Symbol book class.svg and File:Symbol book class2.svg. Whilst I preferr the left most one it might be that the other one is easier to distinguish at low resolutions. The colours are only temporary of course. Anyhow feedback is welcome. /Lokal_Profil 15:09, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
 * On these colors the 2nd one looks more recognizable at low-res, but that's possibly due to contrast. The book class color is #98FF98, so perhaps make the middle of the icon match that. The lighter shade of green should offer more contrast. Or perhaps make the book-icon itself darker? Headbomb {{{sup|ταλκ}}<sub style="margin-left:-4.0ex;">κοντριβς – WP Physics} 01:37, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I changed the interior colour but this resulted in a weird colour clash so I changed the surrounding one as well. The different 16px versions can be seen through the links: left 1, 2 3 | right 1 2 3./Lokal_Profil 23:52, 16 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I think 3 looks the best of them at low res. I'll upload that one, and if someone disagrees, then then can change it. Thanks a bunch!Headbomb {{{sup|ταλκ}}<sub style="margin-left:-4.0ex;">κοντριβς – WP Physics} 01:01, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Enrico Caruso
Article(s): Enrico Caruso Request: Trim off extra edging... Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 14:30, 11 November 2009 (UTC) Graphist opinion: ✅. How is it? --Vishnu2011 (talk) 07:09, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Great, thank you! Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 10:15, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Seattle Sounders FC logo
Article(s): Seattle Sounders FC Request: Please convert the logo to SVG format. The article is currently under FA review and it was suggested that we make a request here. Thank you! SkotyWATalk|Contribs 02:49, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):
 * Why? Non-free content really isn't the focus or mission of Wikipedia, and it's almost always better to use content sourced from an official source, as opposed to sloppy, reconstructed traces. We normally need a good rationale for non-free work. Please also see the same thing a few topics up, Graphic_Lab/Illustration_workshop. I wonder who at FAC is sending non-free images here. -Andrew c [talk] 16:37, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
 * ✅OK, I located, a PDF on the official webpage that had the logo in it, so I extracted it, and saved it as SVG. This is not an SVG conversion, rather it was simply finding the logo on the official website in vector format, and saving it in a format compatible with Wikipedia. See File:Seattle Sounders FC.svg. -Andrew c [talk] 17:39, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Salvador Allende signature
Article(s): Salvador Allende Request: Vectorize. ◅ P R O D U C E R  ( TALK ) 20:31, 15 November 2009 (UTC) Graphist opinion(s):

✅. How's that?  Zoo Fari  20:39, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Looks great, thanks. ◅ P R O D U C E R  ( TALK ) 22:17, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Imagawa clan
Article(s): Imagawa clan Request: remove black background and sharpen... Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 10:17, 9 November 2009 (UTC) Graphist opinion:
 * I've made an SVG version. How's that?  Zoo Fari  02:10, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Wonderful, thank you! Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 14:14, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Why didn't you just use this image: File:Japanese crest Imagawa Akadori.svg? Kaldari (talk) 18:59, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Aicraft
Article(s): Sukhoi Su-11

Request: Starting from the photograph, an illustration is needed (photo cannot be uploaded on Commons due to unclear copyright status). Photo may be copyrighted, but not the subject (the aircraft is not copyrighted).--Trixt (talk) 21:20, 23 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Resolved: File:Sukhoi Su-11 (LK).svg.--Trixt (talk) 20:36, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

Phospholipid
Article(s): Phospholipid Request: Vectorize. Connormah (talk) 00:02, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s): How's it look? --Vishnu2011 (talk) 05:42, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Nice. Connormah (talk) 23:33, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
 * It's missing the "U" in the bottom right corner. /94.193.242.248 (talk) 00:49, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Fixed, sorry --Vishnu2011 (talk) 06:01, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
 * No problems. Looks fine now. /94.193.242.248 (talk) 10:07, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

7th Infantry Division (United States)
Article(s): 7th Infantry Division (United States) Request: A user has requested that this image should be changed from a .gif format to an .svg format. The article is up for Featured Article status. — Ed! (talk) 16:53, 24 November 2009 (UTC) Graphist opinion(s):


 * I've completed the vectorization and uploaded the SVG as File:7th Infantry Division DUI.svg. Does this work for you? Mononomic (talk) 23:56, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
 * It looks great. Thank you very much for your help! — Ed! (talk) 02:31, 27 November 2009 (UTC)