Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Image workshop/Archive/Sep 2008

=Stale=

Cross section of filter of gas mask
Feel free to edit the image.
 * Okay, I made it less noisy and increased the saturation. -- pbr ok s 1 3 talk? 05:13, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Chicago World's Columbian Exposition
Article(s): World's Columbian Exposition

Request: This is by no means urgent, but if someone would like to have a go at cleaning up this image, that would great. It's quite a nice image, and nicely shows Chicago during the exposition. -- Nautica Shad es  23:36, 28 July 2008 (UTC) Graphist opinion: I made some changes, not so much cleaning up, but with lighting. -- pbr ok s 1 3 talk? 01:44, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much. For the future, it is better to upload an edit with the changes you have made, in case some people want to view the original. Nautica Shad es  01:35, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Avar Khanate
Article(s): Avar Khanate Request: SVG ification. --Lord Leatherface (talk) 23:20, 7 August 2008 (UTC) Graphist opinion: Well, here you are. What do you think, any suggestions? Ahnode (talk) 08:56, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Mongol Empire
Article(s): Ilkhanate, Mongol Empire, Chagatai Khanate

Request: There are flag of some region. SVG ification. Make big. Upload Commons. Please.--Lord Leatherface (talk) 21:01, 30 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Mongol and Srek Empire... :) Which, in case you weren't sure is Shrek. gren ??? 09:18, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Graphist opinion:
 * Mongol flags done. I'm not sure about the copytight on the Shrek flags though.--23230  talk 20:27, 1 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Shrek flags upload Turkish Wikipedia please.--Lord Leatherface (talk) 22:38, 1 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Is this "done" now? 68.39.174.238 (talk) 23:01, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Cretan State
Article(s): Cretan State Request: Coat of arms of Cretan State in w:el:Εικόνα:Nomisma Kritis.jpg and w:el:Εικόνα:Xartonomisma Trapeza Kritis.jpg. SVG ification. We must use Image:Coat of Arms of Greek Kingdom.png and Image:Bandera de Creta, 1913.svg. Make big. Upload Commons. Please.--Lord Leatherface (talk) 15:25, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Graphist opinion:

Kazakh Khanate
Article(s):Kazakh Khanate, Eurasian Avars, Hunnic Empire, Kara-Khanid Khanate, Golden Horde Request: There are flag of some region. SVG ification. Make big. Upload Commons. Please.--Lord Leatherface (talk) 13:11, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Graphist opinion:
 * Kazakh Khanate.gif: Done --Slashme (talk) 08:08, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Golden Horde svg: Done --Slashme (talk) 10:47, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
 * East Kara-Khanid flag svg: Done; Because the source quality is so low, I just traced it with inkscape's potrace plugin. I hope the result is good enough.  If not, I'll need a better quality source. --Slashme (talk) 11:58, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
 * West Kara-Khanid flag svg: Done; Just changed background colour of East. --Slashme (talk) 12:10, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Hunnic Empire Flag svg: I've done this, but I am not sure whether I may upload it: The Turkish file seems to be "Fair use", not GFDL. Anyway, if anyone sorts out the license, it's a two minute job to trace this in inkscape: just set it to two-colours and delete the png when it's done. --Slashme (talk) 12:25, 16 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I think that it is actually a "PD-old" thing, since the tag on it now as equivalent to our logo — Frequently misunderstood by people who use it as a content descriptor instead of a copyright tag. Certainly a flag from a no-longer existent state of 100s of years ago isn't likely to be copyrighted by it. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 23:00, 16 August 2008 (UTC)


 * OK, I'll do it tomorrow evening (GMT+2) if not done by then. --Slashme (talk) 06:57, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Illustration of hematospermia
Article(s): Hematospermia, Semen Request: SVG version please. --  Jaakobou Chalk Talk  13:18, 17 August 2008 (UTC) Graphist opinion: I made one. Question, does the image show up on anyone else's computer. It wont show on mine unless I open the entire file. -- pbr ok s 1 3 talk? 21:14, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
 * It works now. will this work? -- pbr ok s 1 3 talk? 22:48, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for giving it a go. Pardon the annoying requests, but it feels a little flat at the moment. Could you maybe add a shade to the tube and maybe a bit more of a 3D reflection thing? Another thing which I'd prefer, is a less saturated color on the red blood cells so they will look more like the sperms and possibly another layer on the sperms so they will look a little more like the brushed version. Sorry for all the requests but right now, the original looks somewhat better than the SVG version, at least in my eyes.  Jaakobou Chalk Talk  20:09, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Its no problem. I'm not quites sure by what you meant with "3D reflection thing", but I think I got what you wanted. What do you think? -- pbr ok s 1 3 talk? 05:24, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * It's much better but not quite there yet. Catch me on chat (I sent you an email) and we'll discuss how to make it better than the JPG illustration.
 * Cheers,  Jaakobou Chalk Talk  11:57, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Dani Kouyaté.jpg
Article(s): Dani Kouyaté Request: Hi all. I was just wondering whether someone could remove all that plack space and make a higher resolution of the image. --I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 02:40, 25 August 2008 (UTC) Graphist opinion: I've removed most of the black space. As for resolution, that can only be increased by taking a new photo; software can only uselessly duplicate pixels. --Bowlhover (talk) 04:29, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Herzegovina
Article(s): Hersek (Habsburg) Request: SVG ification(Image:Ahhe.gif). Make big(Image:Ah her.svg). Please--Lord Leatherface (talk) 14:57, 24 August 2008 (UTC) Graphist opinion: The flag is already an SVG, and can be as big as you like. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 23:10, 24 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I think he's referring to the nominal size. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 21:37, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Greek Cities Seals
Article(s):el:Πινακοθήκη σημαιών πόλεων Request: This is the official logo. Can you make a copy of it? In order for it to be used at the Greek Wikipedia?-- Dimorsitanos (talk) 18:36, 20 August 2008 (UTC) Graphist opinion: It's a copyrighted logo (and so would any copy of it be) so unless Greek wikipedia allows fair use you will never be able to use it. If greek wikipedia allows fair use then just upload the image localy to the greek wikipedia. /Lokal_Profil 00:28, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes, It's being used at a 5-10KB resolution. But, I've noticed many seal and flag copies at greater resolutions....--Dimorsitanos (talk) 08:05, 21 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Flags (in general) are not copyrighted, so almost all of them here are used at any resolution. Many seals (Especially Federal ones) are not copyrighted (Age or willful release). That doesn't mean that ALL seals are. Municipal logos (Except the ancient ones) are almost always copyrighted (In the US @least). I don't know Greek copyright law, but there may be a provision that "official emblems" (or something similar) are not copyrightable; many copyright codes include something like that. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 17:01, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Portugal & Spain Napoleon
Article: Lourinhã, Peninsular War, and potentially many others

Request: Hello, I ask to you whether it is possible to make a chart of French invasion in Iberian Peninsula from the following chart: Europe Napoleon 1811.

It would be necessary to put the cities of: Lisbon, Lourinhã, Olivenza, Salamanque, Peniche, Barcelona and Madrid.

It would be necessary to make three of them if possible: French, Portuguese and English. Cancelos (talk) 11:44, 26 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Three maps
 * English = Lisbon, Lourinhã, Olivenza, Salamanca, Peniche, Barcelona and Madrid
 * Portuguese = Lisboa, Lourinhã, Olivença, Salamanca, Peniche, Barcelona and Madrid
 * French = Lisbonne, Lourinhã, Olivenza, Salamanque, Peniche, Barcelone and Madrid

Graphist opinion: Let me contact the user who did the original map to see if he still has a vector version of it. I don't feel confident redrawing the 1811 borders on a map of present day Europe, but if I can get this map in SVG, I can put on those cities for you. (Or hey, maybe he'll be willing to do it.) MissMJ (talk) 21:35, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, the original map is not available in vector form, and neither is the source for those borders. Is anyone willing to look for a source and modify a blank map of Europe? MissMJ (talk) 20:56, 27 June 2008 (UTC)


 * This seems a lot more complicated than just getting the borders. There are much more cities relevant to the Peninsular War than those listed above, and just marking them won't be enough to get a good map of the battles. There are several paths that should be linking some of thiese cities. You can see the miriad of results by performing a simple google search for "peninsular war map". below are some of the results I found more relevant in a first glance:


 * listing cities
 * http://www.ctgameclub.org/wellymap.jpg
 * http://history.wellsoc.org/images/PeninsularMap.gif (with battle dates)
 * http://www.napoleonguide.com/images/01spain.jpg (see context)


 * listing paths
 * http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/4859/Guerilla.gif
 * http://library.thinkquest.org/C0110901/imagesAll/map/retreatFrench.gif
 * http://library.thinkquest.org/C0110901/imagesAll/map/BritishAttack.gif
 * http://www.aboutscotland.com/argylls/ashph/penin1map.gif
 * http://www.essaillon.fr/images/textes/B_02_carte.jpg


 * I don't have the time to study the events and make sense of all these, but I suspect a complete map in svg would be an amazing resource (perhaps even a candidate for featured image)


 * As for the borders of the empire, I didn't manage to find a bigger map we can trace. Also see related images Image:Empire français 1811.gif and Image:Europe map Napoleon Blocus.png (but both have the same resolution as the one pointed above).


 * Nevertheless, I'll trace an svg version of the borders, in a Iberian Peninsula-only svg map. You can work on that afterwards, adding features from the above maps. --Waldir talk 16:41, 29 June 2008 (UTC)


 * [[Image:Iberian Peninsula 1811.svg|200px|border|left]] I kept the original borders from Image:Blank map of Europe.svg intact (most countries are outside the limits of this image, though), so this map can be used to make broader maps of the 1st French Empire, covering the entire Europe. That's why I didn't rotate it so the local North would point up. --Waldir talk 17:59, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

This map hates me. I can't match up a current map of Spain/Portugal (screenshot from Google Maps) with that map; some of the borders always end up off (Barcelona ends up in the middle of the sea -_-'). And I really don't want to go through all of those other maps and draw all the battles and towns and paths and whatever. I don't really care about Napoleon and I hate battle history. T_T This will bore me to tears. Does anyone else want to take a stab at it? MissMJ (talk) 19:05, 1 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I totally understand you, MissMJ :) That's why I only did the first part of the job afterall ;) but could you at least help tracing the rest of the png so we can have an Europe-wide map of the First French Empire? I am asking instead of doing it myself cause, you know, I've had my share of boredom with this :D --Waldir talk 22:14, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * btw, what you're saying indicates that Image:Blank map of Europe.svg needs the borders to be corrected... and all its derivatives... argh :s --Waldir talk 22:17, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * It's probably just a different projection, no worries. Jackaranga (talk) 22:35, 1 July 2008 (UTC)


 * News! The requester made Image:2048px-Iberian Peninsula 1811.svg77.png based on the image above and http://www.napoleonguide.com/battle_penlist.htm! Is anyone willing to SVGify it? --Waldir talk 17:51, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll try to tackle this. Does anyone have a primary reference for France's borders circa 1811? The borders in [Image:Europe map Napoleon 1811.png] don't exactly match up with any of the maps I found in a quick Google search. Emok (talk) 04:07, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Is anyone one still interested in this map? It's taken me a while to get around to it. Here's the borders--I can add cities and battles later. Emok (talk) 04:41, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Coat of arms of the Abkhazian SSR
Article(s): Coat of arms of the Abkhazian SSR Request: cleanup -- Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 02:43, 7 August 2008 (UTC) Graphist opinion: The image is too small has a too low resolution for any reasonable work. --pabouk (talk) 10:33, 14 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Do either of the external versions help? 68.39.174.238 (talk) 18:33, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, is it possible to get the image brightened, or the colors more uniform? Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 06:42, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Toga Illustration
Article(s): Roman Republic, Culture of ancient Rome, Roman citizenship, Social class in ancient Rome Request: A SVG version is much needed. -- diego_pmc (talk) 11:47, 15 August 2008 (UTC) Graphist opinion: would soething like this work? -LadyofHats (talk) 14:41, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Not in all cases. diego_pmc (talk) 17:27, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I did this a few days ago. I wasn't entirely happy with it, but it's growing on me. Happy to try to tweak if needed. Debate   木  14:21, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I made one too. The colors seem to match better. -- pbr ok s 1 3 talk? 06:46, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey, thanks for submitting the versions. However could the text under it be removed? — Diego_pmc  Talk 19:06, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Do you mean under the PNG version? -- p<font color="#254117">b<font color="#006600">r ok s 1 3 talk? 06:50, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The SVG one. — Diego_pmc  Talk 14:02, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * oh, haha. I didn't even see it. Hows that? -- p<font color="#254117">b<font color="#006600">r ok s 1 3 talk? 16:03, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Ashtamangala
Article(s): Ashtamangala Request: can we create images for the missing entries? -- Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 06:49, 30 August 2008 (UTC) Graphist opinion: Can you be a little more specific? Debate  木  07:56, 30 August 2008 (UTC)


 * 1) Conch
 * 2) Knot
 * 3) Fish
 * 4) Banner
 * 5) Lotus
 * 6) Parasol
 * 7) Urn
 * 8) Wheel

The images do not match each other in quality, so hopefully something can be done to improve them as well. The wheel is the cleanest thus far. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 08:39, 30 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I know nothing about Tibetan traditional practices, therefore it would be best if someone who knows something about the topic could suggest appropriate pictures to work from. I'm not at all clear, for example, whether a simple image of a conch shell would suffice, in which case a search of the commons will elicit several good images. Regardless, I can certainly find images, such as those at The Eight Auspicious Symbols and NMM's Beede Gallery, and base something off these, however I'd still need clarification of any potential copyright problems before starting work. Debate   木  09:41, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Multimedia icon for WikiProject Media franchises
Article(s): WikiProject Media franchises image

Request: If possible, could an image using the ones above be made to show the interconnectivity of the various media and to show how those media all feed into media franchises? A request has also been posted on Commons. An image was created, however, it was noted that it would be better as a barnstar and can be found here. Also, something generic for music would be appreciated. Thanks! LA (T) @ 07:14, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Cameroon National Parks
Article(s): on Cameroon National Parks Request: Could someone upload a non-copyvio version of the map at http://carpe.umd.edu/where-carpe-works/dja_sof.jpg ? --I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 20:51, 2 September 2008 (UTC) Graphist opinion:

William A. Spinks images
[Not using gallery yet, as it does not work with off-site images, and the off-site one is the original, and the one in Commons is probably not the one to work with.]

This is the best quality copy of the image that is available. It is from a microfilm photo, with too much contrast, that was scanned in at 4-bit color depth, so it does have greyscales, but not really enough.

Mucking about with it in GraphicConverter, this is the best I've been able to do with it (including mirroring horizontally so that the lit side of his face is toward the article text.

Article(s): William A. Spinks

Request: Clean up background and see if anything at all can be done to improve the picture of his face. I realize there is no greyscale information in the darkest areas, so not a lot can be done there. Is it plausible to improve this image further, or is this a lost cause? This is one of only two known publicly available photos of him. The other, near bottom of the same article, also needs cleanup, as some bit of dirt or something is on his face, making it look kind of like he has a wet cigarette hanging out of his mouth. Both images are in Commons, though I would expect that the first link above is the one that would be needed for the something to work from. I can provide the original scan of the second image as well, if needed. —  SMcCandlish  &#91;talk&#93; &#91;cont&#93; ‹(-¿-)› 01:23, 4 September 2008 (UTC)


 * nb. For anyone who wants to take it on, see also additional discussion regarding this job at Wikipedia_talk:Graphic_Lab/Image_workshop. Debate   木  01:39, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

=Resolved=

Improve image for Saint Thomas Lowland Parish, Nevis, West Indies
Article(s): Saint Thomas Lowland Parish Request: -- Could someone please rotate and crop this so that the horizon is level? And maybe make the color a little more rich? Thanks so much. Invertzoo (talk) 23:33, 2 August 2008 (UTC) Graphist opinion: Okay, I cropped and rotated it. I did a little color, but I'm not too good at it. Anyone else want to do the color? -- p<font color="#254117">b<font color="#006600">r ok s 1 3 talk? 06:05, 3 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks so far for your good work. Actually the horizon is still not quite level, if you wanted to go that bit further. Thanks again, Invertzoo (talk) 16:28, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I think its level now. I also changed the colors and sharpness of it. What do you think? -- p<font color="#254117">b<font color="#006600">r ok s 1 3 talk? 01:12, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I know it wasn't part of the request, but I've made the sky a bit bluer (it was really annoying me!). It's under a different filename since it's a fairly major change. Time3000 (talk) 11:48, 12 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks Guys! It does look very good now. However if you look at it at a larger size some of the vegetation has weird artifacts. Was that on the original? Or is it from the sharpening? Invertzoo (talk) 21:38, 12 August 2008 (UTC)


 * The artifacts look like JPEG artifacts from the original. JPEG is the type of file it was saved as, and because it's lossy the JPEG file isn't quite the same as the original before it was compressed.  I suspect that the sharpening has exaggerated the artifacts, but there's not a lot that can be done about that.  Time3000 (talk) 11:14, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Orange order.jpg
Article(s): None yet, but Orange Order, Loyalism, and various Scotland, Ulster and Northern Ireland topics. Request: SVG-ification of the first image, and both moving to commons (my browser won't save SVGs for some reason so I can't move them). -- --<span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS, sans-serif;border:2px solid #A9A9A9;padding:1px;">Jza84 | <font style="color:#000000;background:#D3D3D3;"> Talk 14:30, 25 August 2008 (UTC) Graphist opinion: Will that work? -- p<font color="#254117">b<font color="#006600">r ok s 1 3 talk? 07:00, 27 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Brilliant. Thank you. I've marked as resolved. Any chance of the Image:Flag of the Orange Order.svg being moved to commons? As I say, for some reason my brower won't save SVG files :( Thanks again! --<span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS, sans-serif;border:2px solid #A9A9A9;padding:1px;">Jza84 | <font style="color:#000000;background:#D3D3D3;"> Talk 11:50, 27 August 2008 (UTC)


 * You can do it yourself with Move to Commons and CommonsHelper/File Upload Bot. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 16:57, 27 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Commonshelper requires the user to save the file locally on your own drive... hense the request :S --<span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS, sans-serif;border:2px solid #A9A9A9;padding:1px;">Jza84 | <font style="color:#000000;background:#D3D3D3;"> Talk 23:40, 27 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Not if you use the link at the bottom of the MtC template and the "Directly upload file" option (Last one on the page): http://toolserver.org/~magnus/commonshelper.php?interface=en&image=Flag%20of%20the%20Orange%20Order.svg&lang=en 68.39.174.238 (talk) 03:18, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Maryland flag
68.39.174.238 (talk) 16:54, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Articels: Flag of Maryland

Request: Take the SVGifyed lower left quarter of the state flag and save it as an independent SVG file to replace the ugly JPG. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 23:29, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Oppinion: How's that? -- p<font color="#254117">b<font color="#006600">r ok s 1 3 talk? 06:55, 27 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Perfect. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 16:54, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Image:Central america (cia).png
Article(s): Request: trim off top caption -- Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 06:50, 26 August 2008 (UTC) Graphist opinion: Looks like someone did it. Resolved? -- p<font color="#254117">b<font color="#006600">r ok s 1 3 talk? 07:01, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Resolved indeed, thank you! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 14:13, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Image:Mbb canal map.svg
Article(s): Manchester Bolton & Bury Canal Request: - I created this on Inkscape but it won't render in the browser, unless clicked. What have I done wrong, and could you correct it for me? The article is going for FAC so if theres any input on the map style, that would be great too. Cheers, Parrot of Doom (talk) 23:32, 27 August 2008 (UTC) Graphist opinion:

Do you mean that it won't show up as a thumbnail? It wasn't displaying in the gallery above because the filename it was uploaded to is "MBB canal map.svg" but the gallery was looking for "Mbb canal map.svg". The map style's good but you might want to think about having less white border around it (there's a really easy way to get rid of it in inkscape - press Ctrl-A to select everything then go to File->Document Properties and click "Fit page to selection"). Hope that helps! Time3000 (talk) 14:55, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Superb mate, thanks. I will put a speedy delete on it, and re-upload it under a better name along with the changes you recommended. Parrot of Doom (talk) 16:09, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * By the way, I just noticed the file in the window above isn't the one I uploaded - mine is the one in lowercase Mbb. I'll do the above anyway. Parrot of Doom (talk) 16:10, 28 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Argh. I uploaded one to here and it still won't work.  I don't understand why. Parrot of Doom (talk) 16:24, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorted - I realised there was still a jpg in the background, once I deleted that the image worked fine. Thanks for the help. Parrot of Doom (talk) 16:37, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Governor Gregoire
Article(s):Christine Gregoire Request: I'd like this lightened and the color balanced appropriately. I lack the knowledge on how to do this correctly, so I thought I'd ask here. Also, if someone wants to try a better crop of the original image, I'm all for that too. I appreciate your help. -- Cumulus Clouds (talk) 21:25, 21 August 2008 (UTC) Graphist opinion: How's this? Only so much one can do with yellow & yellow on, umm... yellow. Debate  木  14:36, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Much, much better. I can actually see the colors now. Thank you. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 17:07, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Mammouth
— Image has been deleted so it can't be improved, and the logo is already vectorized @ BotW: http://www.brandsoftheworld.com/search/60898479/9673.html

Article(s): Mammouth (hypermarché) Request: SVG ification. Make big. Upload English Wikipedia.--Lord Leatherface (talk) 17:47, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Graphist opinion:
 * I'm not sure why this non-free image needs "improving" the request to convert it to SVG and further "make big", seems to break the spirit, of not letter of WP:FUC 3.b. I don't see anything wrong with the image, and feel the graphics lab should focus on free content and not spend time tweaking and adjusting non-free logos and other commercial work.-Andrew c [talk] 12:52, 12 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I think his comment of "Make big" refers to the scalability of the SVGs and the fact that alot of the images he files here are these terrible small unreadable coats and such. Also, the image is already vectorized (As an EPS) on . However I will say that uploading it to the English Wikipedia is a bad idea since there's no articel for the subject, and it'll just get deleted. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 22:56, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Trinidad and Tobago
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Article(s): The Scout Association of Trinidad and Tobago Request: fix for perspective, I couldn't get it to lay flat, and now I am 6000 miles away. -- Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 02:15, 22 August 2008 (UTC) Graphist opinion:
 * Done. Debate   木  14:06, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Sorry I missed this! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 05:21, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

homeland security
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Article(s): Request: enlarge, clarify, SVGify -- Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 12:25, 24 August 2008 (UTC) Graphist opinion: Okay, I created an SVG image. Generally, there shouldn't be headers in images, but rather in the image caption. So, I removed at and just made the scale. Any other information needed could just be put in the caption. -- p<font color="#254117">b<font color="#006600">r ok s 1 3 talk? 22:57, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you, but I've never seen one without the framing. Just for comparison, could you make a second image? Thanks! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 23:44, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I uploaded over it. Will this work? -- p<font color="#254117">b<font color="#006600">r ok s 1 3 talk? 00:47, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * That's great, but what I meant was one of each, two separate images, so that a choice can be made. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 00:49, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Ha, okay, there you go. -- p<font color="#254117">b<font color="#006600">r ok s 1 3 talk? 03:45, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much! Sorry I spaced this. :) Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 05:24, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Image:WOSM-European Region.svg
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Article(s): Request: please include all of Greenland, which fades off in the corner. -- Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 17:06, 27 August 2008 (UTC) Graphist opinion: How's this? Personally, I'm not convinced that it's a better image. Greenland is clearly identified in the original and the expansion significantly reduces the display size of the other countries, making the overall map harder to read. If people really need to see the full geography of Greenland, which is not the main purpose of this image, they can easily find it elsewhere. Debate  木  01:13, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Put that way, you're right, sorry. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 02:50, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

2 Αttica Pictures for Transparency
Article(s): Βικιπαίδεια:Επιχείρηση Αττική Request: Please make a transparent format of these 2. --Dimorsitanos (talk) 09:47, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Graphist opinion: Did the second one, haven't tracked down the first one. Debate  木  17:07, 23 August 2008 (UTC)


 * It's this one at the greek wikipedia.--Dimorsitanos (talk) 11:10, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * New version. I don't read Greek, so in case it gets deleted from commons because I misread the license you might want to grab it quickly... assuming the Greek text makes any sense at all. :) Debate   木  13:58, 27 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Ok, thanks a lot.--Dimorsitanos (talk) 19:19, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Attica Project Picture for .svg Transparency
Εικόνα:Βικιεπιχείρηση Αττική.jpg

Article(s): Attica Project Request: SVG transparency please. It's on the greek wikipedia.--Dimorsitanos (talk) 22:51, 25 August 2008 (UTC) Graphist opinion: See Graphic_Lab/Image_workshop Debate   木  08:47, 28 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Ok, thanks a lot.--Dimorsitanos (talk) 19:23, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Some signatures
Article(s):Sarah palin, Isaac Newton, Carl Friedrich Gauss Request: Hello. Any chance these ones could be svg'd? The first is blue, but black is fine since it seems all the other svg's have been made that way. Cheers, Ben (talk) 11:03, 30 August 2008 (UTC) Graphist opinion: There you go. How's that? -- p<font color="#254117">b<font color="#006600">r ok s 1 3 talk? 16:41, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Perfect once again. Thanks! Ben (talk) 03:51, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Ordu Pazari
— Impossible since image has been deleted. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 22:37, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Article(s):Oypa Request: Oypa is supermarket in Turkey.Image:Ordu pazari.jpg is old logo of Oypa. Two image in Image:Ordu pazari.jpg. SVG ification. Arrange. Remove blur in picture. Make big.--Lord Leatherface (talk) 14:24, 2 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Image has been deleted... 68.39.174.238 (talk) 22:57, 16 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm (BOLDly) marking this "Done" because it's impossible. If someone wants to try this again, they'll have to get the image re-uploaded or undeleted. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 22:37, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Graphist opinion:

Graphical correction
68.39.174.238 (talk) 15:02, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Articels: Ones about military expenditures.

Request: Remake this graph without the chartjunk (3D effect, shadow, etc). 68.39.174.238 (talk) 19:36, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Opinion: Easy enough to do in Excel, however I'd need the original figures from which the chart was made. I can get these off the SIPRI website, however their SIPRI copyright notice suggests that someone would need to seek their permission first before we could produce something based on those figures. Debate  木  05:46, 31 August 2008 (UTC)


 * IIRC, copyright does not apply to the actual data, just the creative expression of those data - so you'd be free to make a chart from it. From WP:COPY:
 * "Note that copyright law governs the creative expression of ideas, not the ideas or information themselves."
 * Time3000 (talk) 09:33, 31 August 2008 (UTC)


 * THe original graph is "PD-self" (I'm assuming on that assumption). If that is incorrect, it should just be deleted and this request canceled if it's impossible. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 15:30, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I am convinced by Time3000's argument. I have uploaded three graphs based on 2007 figures. You can use all or none as you think fit. It appears that data for the original graph was processed fairly heavily, converting it into both Euros and also amalgamating European Union country figures. I haven't done either of those things - the figures are as found, in US$ and with no EU category. The original was also based on 2006 data and the 2007 data is now available, so I've used that instead. Consequently, before updating any relevant articles you will need to check accompanying text to ensure it is still relevant. If anyone desperately needs the EU amalgamated data, or the dollars converted into Euros, feel free to do the required calculations and post the figures. I can update the graphs as required. Debate   木  06:25, 1 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Perfect. I've made the replacement, but haven't VVA'd the initial image since it's for a different year. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 15:02, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

A Few Good Men at the Haymarket Theatre, London in 2005.
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Article(s): A Few Good Men, Aaron Sorkin Request: -- Is it possible for someone here to fix the blown highlights on this photograph and bring it up to spec? I think it could be a featured picture with a little work. Am I wrong? Fewgoodmen (talk) 22:09, 1 September 2008 (UTC) Graphist opinion: The two main problems with the image, other than that it could do with a slightly tighter crop, are the blown highlights (very bright light reflection) on the left side of the hands and faces and motion blur, particularly the hands and on Rob Lowe's face. Regarding the highlights, I have dropped the image into Photoshop and run the levels all the way up. There is not sufficient colour information left to extract anything of value, even with some creative masking. The motion blur is also too severe to be easily fixed, and the problem is accentuated by blown highlights in the same areas. Unfortunately, in my opinion there's very little that can be done to further improve this image. Debate  木  13:18, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Interesting. Well, thank you for the assessment. I will leave it as it is then. Fewgoodmen (talk) 17:20, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Government of Morocco
Article(s): Politics of Morocco, Template:Politics of Morocco Request: Can anyone help improving this image by creating SVG version? -- Xiquet (talk) 21:09, 31 August 2008 (UTC) Graphist opinion: Done. --Xiquet (talk) 23:41, 1 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Is that precisely accurate, though? I notice the way the green extends all the way down the left side of the one, and not the other. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 23:43, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Vectorization For WikiProject Sega Logo
— Requester has approved of image. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 23:42, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Article(s): This image is to represent the whole of Wikiproject Sega and will be used on 1000s of articles. Request: Can someone please vectorize this image to SVG? -- <font color = "darkmagenta">Gaogier <font color = "darkmagenta">How can I help? 15:40, 1 September 2008 (UTC) Graphist opinion: Resolved? --Xiquet (talk) 23:47, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much. <font color = "darkmagenta">Gaogier <font color = "darkmagenta">How can I help? 01:55, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Food safety images
Article(s): Template:Food safety

Request: I need a combination image to represent food safety: time & temperature are the most critical components. I would like to use the three listed, is there any one who can combine them so the look good?

I need them laid out in a triangle with the clock at the apex, the warning at the right corner and the science logo on the left corner. If this could be done in SVG format, so much the better.

I would like to thank everyone in advance.

--Jerem43 ( talk ) 09:35, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Graphist opinion: I posted two ideas up with a fork and knife background. Did you want them inscribed in an actual triangle? What do you think? -- p<font color="#254117">b<font color="#006600">r ok s 1 3 talk? 06:39, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

I like the image #1 better, pretty cool. Could you make the icons a little bigger? Other wise it is great! Jeremy ( Blah blah... ) 07:52, 3 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Okay, how's that? -- p<font color="#254117">b<font color="#006600">r ok s 1 3 talk? 08:40, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Great! I'll take it. Thanks allot. Jeremy ( Blah blah... ) 15:11, 3 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Not a problem! -- p<font color="#254117">b<font color="#006600">r ok s 1 3 talk? 17:04, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Edo ivory mask
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Article(s): Request: cut away background for use with stub template -- Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 10:00, 3 September 2008 (UTC) Graphist opinion: I'll have a look at it. Debate  木  13:08, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * How's this? Debate   木  15:18, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Perfect, thank you! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 23:14, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Khanate of Kazan
— Requester says OK. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 21:57, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Article(s):Golden Horde, Khanate of Kazan Request: There are flag of some region. SVG ification. Make big. Arrange Flag of Khanate of Kazan. Upload Commons. Please.--Lord Leatherface (talk) 22:32, 1 August 2008 (UTC) Graphist opinion: Here you go.--<font face="Century Gothic" size="3">23230  talk 09:53, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment placed in new section by requester:
 * Make Kazan flag as original Kazan flag. Image:Flag of the Kazan Khanate.svg is foul. Upload Commons. Please.--Lord Leatherface (talk) 16:26, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * If you want the high-detail dragon picture, it might be better to keep the picture as a PNG, because re-drawing the dragon in such high detail would be a lot of work! --Slashme (talk) 13:23, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
 * (in reply to question on my talk page) I don't really have time to draw that dragon - it's going to be a long, hard job. --Slashme (talk) 16:10, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, I used the trace bitmap function on inkscape. Will that dragon do? -- p<font color="#254117">b<font color="#006600">r ok s 1 3 talk? 07:14, 5 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Ok. Thank you.--Lord Leatherface (talk) 17:39, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Caucasian Imamate
— Requester says he likes it. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 21:56, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Article(s): Caucasian Imamate Request: SVG ification. Make big.--Lord Leatherface (talk) 18:46, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Graphist opinion: There you go. -- p<font color="#254117">b<font color="#006600">r ok s 1 3 talk? 14:00, 15 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Is that just traced text? If so, we should probably find someone who can read it and so actually put it in as text, instead of drawn strokes. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 22:49, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it is. Do you know what language it is in? -- p<font color="#254117">b<font color="#006600">r ok s 1 3 talk? 05:28, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Arabic language.--Lord Leatherface (talk) 11:21, 18 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Do you have the actual text? If so, we can use it on the flag instead of just drawing it. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 13:26, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Ok. Thank you.--Lord Leatherface (talk) 17:41, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:AustGreens.gif
— Request probably not possible with current copyright standards; requester OK with current image. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 13:23, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Article(s): Australian Greens Request: Would it be possible to get this one vectorised? Cheers, Ben (talk) 15:42, 21 August 2008 (UTC) Graphist opinion: I suppose it would be, but is there really a reason to? The image is large enough to give visual identification of the organization. However, I made a png version with transparency. Will that work for you? Image:AustGreens.png -- p<font color="#254117">b<font color="#006600">r ok s 1 3 talk? 16:30, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Every now and again I come across an image that could be vectorised and so I nominate it here, to promote the format among other reasons, so I would have preferred the SVG. No matter though, the PNG is better, thanks. Ben (talk) 16:42, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * No I completely understand. It's just that vectorizing fair use images are generally discouraged seeing as the image could easily be resized and set to a very large resolution. Don't get me wrong, I believe that SVG is the most preferable format, but that doesn't mean that i should always be used. -- p<font color="#254117">b<font color="#006600">r ok s 1 3 talk? 17:40, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, I understand that argument for not using SVG for fair use images, but I do think it's a bit silly. If you just took out the word 'easily' from what you wrote above, the same could be said of any image format :) Surely the fair use rationale's only concern is our use of the image, not some measure of 'ease of resizing' by other people? Like I said though, no big deal. The PNG will do. Thanks again. Ben (talk) 18:02, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

London 2012 logo
Article(s):2012 Summer Olympics Request: Would it be possible to change this to the SVG format please? Lazyduckling (talk) 16:58, 4 September 2008 (UTC) Graphist opinion: Okay, I extracted the SVG image from here. -- p<font color="#254117">b<font color="#006600">r ok s 1 3 talk? 19:23, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmmm...well according to the talk page of that article, the consensus was that the clear logo should be kept, rather than a coloured one. Thanks for your help anyway. Lazyduckling (talk) 20:00, 4 September 2008 (UTC)


 * That's fine. I made it clear. -- p<font color="#254117">b<font color="#006600">r ok s 1 3 talk? 05:24, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Mysia
— Requester says done. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 01:34, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Article(s):Mysia

Request: SVG ification.(Mysia map) Accommodate Image:Mysia map ancient community.jpg to Image:Turkey map blank.png.--Lord Leatherface (talk) 18:10, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Graphist opinion: Is it okay? Emok (talk) 22:28, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes. Thank you.--Lord Leatherface (talk) 14:55, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete frontier (border) of today state in Image:Mysia.svg. Write location name in Image:Mysia map ancient community.jpg. Please.--Lord Leatherface (talk) 16:38, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Do you want me to zoom in to the same size as Image:Mysia map ancient community.jpg? To make the text more readable? Emok (talk) 02:10, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes.--Lord Leatherface (talk) 13:24, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Ok. Thank you. Done.--Lord Leatherface (talk) 17:42, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Manchukuo
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Article(s): Manchukuo Request: SVG, can overwrite existing Image:Manchukuo Coat Of Arms.svg -- Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 13:56, 7 September 2008 (UTC) Graphist opinion: Is that better? — <b class="IPA"> ₪₪  ch1902   ₪₪ </b> 17:52, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Perfect, thank you so much! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 18:16, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

TRNC
— Per "OK" of requester. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 22:07, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Article(s): Northern Cyprus Request: SVG ification.Please.--Lord Leatherface (talk) 18:44, 1 September 2008 (UTC)


 * You might be able to use something off of the partially done SVG of the other coat. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 22:35, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Graphist opinion: I'm working on it. -- p<font color="#254117">b<font color="#006600">r ok s 1 3 talk? 18:46, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * How's that? -- p<font color="#254117">b<font color="#006600">r ok s 1 3 talk? 03:43, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok.--Lord Leatherface (talk) 09:59, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Sinhala letters
Article(s):Sinhala_alphabet Request: Sharpen the edges/unblur. If possible, make an svg. I can provide the original pdf of the image if that makes things easier. Note that the top of the second letter has two strokes, a black one and slightly above a red one. The two are connected on the left edge, like a the bobby pin shown for comparison Jasy jatere (talk) 07:24, 5 September 2008 (UTC) Graphist opinion: Yes, a PDF file could possible already have them as SVG images. Could you provide the PDF? -- p<font color="#254117">b<font color="#006600">r ok s 1 3 talk? 12:59, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Managed to get a much better img quality myself, so the request for unblur is moot now. Still, if you could try and get an *svg, that would be nice. I include the *pdf in the gallery above. Jasy jatere (talk) 16:22, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I can't seem to open it. Is there a link somewhere on the web? -- p<font color="#254117">b<font color="#006600">r ok s 1 3 talk? 23:37, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I figured it out. Well, the letters are still in a raster format, so I'll just convert the images manually. -- p<font color="#254117">b<font color="#006600">r ok s 1 3 talk? 06:41, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * How's that? -- p<font color="#254117">b<font color="#006600">r ok s 1 3 talk? 06:57, 8 September 2008 (UTC)


 * looks great, thank you. Jasy jatere (talk) 15:49, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Poisson coefficient
Article(s): Poisson coefficient (in Bulgarian) Request: please convert it into svg, nothing more. -- Phidelio (talk) 22:43, 5 September 2008 (UTC) Graphist opinion: How's that? — <b class="IPA"> ₪₪  ch1902   ₪₪ </b> 18:06, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Could not be better. Thank you.--Phidelio (talk) 21:22, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Madan Mohan Malaviya
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Article(s): Madan Mohan Malaviya Request: fix perspective Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 16:53, 7 September 2008 (UTC) Graphist opinion: See my attempt above. The frame was not cropped evenly all around, so I focused on getting the actual portrait rectangular, as opposed to the portrait and frame. I then cropped the frame to be even, which lost some of the frame, but looks nicer. I also adjusted for contrast a little. norm77 (talk) 19:55, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * That is wonderful, would you upload it over the original? Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 20:01, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I attempted to, but it won't let me because I didn't have a commons login before. I just created one but there is a waiting period for overwriting existing files. I will do so after that, or perhaps someone else can move it for me? norm77 (talk) 21:22, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Done. -- p<font color="#254117">b<font color="#006600">r ok s 1 3 talk? 22:57, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Great, thank you! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 02:58, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

UN Security council veto graph
Article(s): United Nations Security Council veto power and (proposed) Cold War Request: This important graph demonstrates the power dynamic between the superpowers during and after the Cold War. Please vectorise this graph (convert to SVG) to improve rendering quality which is currently poor. A larger nominal size once vectorised would be appreciated (800px wide). Thanks Dhatfield (talk) 17:29, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Source data can be found at globalpolicy.org, but should preferably be organised as shown in the existing graph. Thanks Dhatfield (talk) 17:34, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Graphist opinion: I just took what you had and vectorized it without any changes. Satisfactory? norm77 (talk) 21:04, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Brilliant - thanks norm77. Dhatfield (talk) 02:06, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Star-of-India
Article(s): Request: cleanup center text, and though an SVG which can be scaled, make image visibly larger -- Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 04:06, 10 September 2008 (UTC) Graphist opinion: How's that? -- p<font color="#254117">b<font color="#006600">r ok s 1 3 talk? 04:23, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Snazzy and fast, thank you so much! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 04:27, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Not a problem! -- p<font color="#254117">b<font color="#006600">r ok s 1 3 talk? 04:55, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Tripoli
— BOLDly marking this as done. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 18:52, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Article(s): Trablusgarp Cumhuriyeti

Request: [|This is flag of Tripolitanian Republic. SVG ification. Make big. --Lord Leatherface (talk) 13:05, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Graphist opinion: Done. I uploaded it to the Turkish Wikipedia. tr:Resim:Trablusgarp.svg. You may want to fill out the rationale though. -- p<font color="#254117">b<font color="#006600">r ok s 1 3 talk? 19:14, 28 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Curiosity: Why is that a fair use image? 68.39.174.238 (talk) 22:20, 30 July 2008 (UTC)


 * If you're asking me, then I have no clue. I just used the same summary and licensing as the old raster version. -- p<font color="#254117">b<font color="#006600">r ok s 1 3 talk? 18:07, 5 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm asking whoever may know. For such an old country, I question if their flag still has (or ever had) a copyright. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 20:45, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

The flag itself would of course be out of copyright, but the drawing of the flag might be copyrighted. Just like Beethoven's music is in the public domain, but that doesn't mean you can xerox the orchestra scores.--Slashme (talk) 13:28, 16 August 2008 (UTC)


 * If it was PBR13's image, shouldn't he be free to release it under a different license though? 68.39.174.238 (talk) 23:04, 16 August 2008 (UTC)


 * If PBR created the image, that's fine. --Slashme (talk) 07:44, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

OK, he changed the licence. Is this "Done" now? 68.39.174.238 (talk) 03:23, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Can anyone better improve this original?
Bellhalla (talk) 12:05, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Article(s): Retouched version currently used in SS Kroonland. Request: Can anyone improve upon my somewhat limited retouching skills? The original PD image has some pretty severe deterioration, although there seems to be quite a bit of detail remaining in the faded areas. I did a fairly quick job on the photo for use in an article, but I'm sure one of you graphists can work your magic better than I can. — Bellhalla (talk) 15:57, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Graphist's opinion:

In my opinion, you have done a good job! You could do a really good job if you go at it with a bit more patience: go down to pixel level shade correction if you have the patience - you've got the skills and the eye, no doubt. Dhatfield (talk) 02:14, 10 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I did some retouching and clean up. is it satisfying?   ■ MMXX  talk  20:50, 13 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Oh yes, that's great! Thank you for your efforts. — Bellhalla (talk) 12:05, 14 September 2008 (UTC)


 * No problem.  ■ MMXX  talk  20:29, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Arms-merseyside.jpg
Article(s): Several, including Merseyside, Merseyside County Council, and, hopefully, for some limited use with the new WikiProject Merseyside (perhaps as a stub icon, project logo etc). Request: SVGification? The roses on the helm (?), are Lancaster Roses, i.e. Image:Lancashire rose.svg. -- --<span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS, sans-serif;border:2px solid #A9A9A9;padding:1px;">Jza84 | <font style="color:#000000;background:#D3D3D3;"> Talk 14:35, 9 September 2008 (UTC) Graphist opinion: I'm working on this one, it may be a couple of days until it's completed. -- p<font color="#254117">b<font color="#006600">r ok s 1 3 talk? 19:15, 9 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you! I've no doubt this is a challenge, so I appreciate this. Any problems, feel free to give me a nudge. :) --<span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS, sans-serif;border:2px solid #A9A9A9;padding:1px;">Jza84 | <font style="color:#000000;background:#D3D3D3;"> Talk 22:45, 9 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Okay, so its not perfect by any means, but is there anything that you think should be fixed? -- p<font color="#254117">b<font color="#006600">r ok s 1 3 talk? 16:05, 12 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Actually, this isn't bad at all. One thing that does strike me though is the garbs (the yellow icons between the roses and on the mer-lion if that's unclear). These are Cheshire garbs, or wheatsheafs (the best examples I can find are, & ), and I think the image would/could be improved by swapping the current ones for Image:H%C3%A9raldique_meuble_Gerbe_de_bl%C3%A9.svg.


 * The only other thing that could be considered is putting in some scales on the fishtales, someway or somehow, but I'm an SVG virgin and don't know how easy that would be. Does that help? --<span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS, sans-serif;border:2px solid #A9A9A9;padding:1px;">Jza84 | <font style="color:#000000;background:#D3D3D3;"> Talk 16:31, 12 September 2008 (UTC)


 * --P.S. I've just noticed that there are two forks, or golden spear type weapons (tridents?) that are missing beween the shield and the supporters too. --<span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS, sans-serif;border:2px solid #A9A9A9;padding:1px;">Jza84 | <font style="color:#000000;background:#D3D3D3;"> Talk 16:36, 12 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Gotcha. How do you think the wheatsheafs and scales look? The scales are really just translucent "blotches", but I think that they could do. If those don't work, I have no problem fixing it, just let me know! -- p<font color="#254117">b<font color="#006600">r ok s 1 3 talk? 19:23, 13 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Brilliant piece of artisty! Wow! Thank you Pbroks13, it's perfect. Marked as resolved. :) --<span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS, sans-serif;border:2px solid #A9A9A9;padding:1px;">Jza84 | <font style="color:#000000;background:#D3D3D3;"> Talk 22:07, 13 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you! =) -- p<font color="#254117">b<font color="#006600">r ok s 1 3 talk? 04:34, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Hammer and dove
Article(s): Hammer and sickle, Communist Party of Britain Request: SVG please --SelfQ (talk) 18:14, 14 September 2008 (UTC) Graphist opinion: How's this: Image:Hammer and dove.svg? -- p<font color="#254117">b<font color="#006600">r ok s 1 3 talk? 06:10, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Perfect, cheers. --SelfQ (talk) 20:00, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Royal Badge of Wales
Article(s): Several: Wales, Royal Badge of Wales, Gallery of coats of arms of the United Kingdom and dependencies, Symbols of the United Kingdom, the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man. Request: SVG-ification. I've listed a number of sources above that can help here. For clarity, the flowers circumbounding the crest are Tudor/English roses (example listed above), Thistles (can't find an SVG version but there are some on the Image:Scottish_royal_coat_of_arms.svg), and (I believe) Leeks (Leeks being a national emblem of Wales - no SVG file found.). The motto on the green ribbon is "PLEIDIOL WYF I'M GWLAD" (yes that is spelt correctly!)

The best example I can find is here. Bit of a challenge is this one, but would be a great graphic to have. -- --<span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS, sans-serif;border:2px solid #A9A9A9;padding:1px;">Jza84 | <font style="color:#000000;background:#D3D3D3;"> Talk 19:01, 26 August 2008 (UTC) Graphist opinion:
 * I will have a go at this tomorrow -- Barryob  (Contribs)   (Talk)  21:55, 26 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks Barry! --<span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS, sans-serif;border:2px solid #A9A9A9;padding:1px;">Jza84 | <font style="color:#000000;background:#D3D3D3;"> Talk 22:03, 26 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Any luck with this? --<span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS, sans-serif;border:2px solid #A9A9A9;padding:1px;">Jza84 | <font style="color:#000000;background:#D3D3D3;"> Talk 23:17, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Hey, I've made a start on it (actually, almost done). I should have it here within the next day or so. -- p<font color="#254117">b<font color="#006600">r ok s 1 3 talk? 08:38, 3 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Apologies I started then forgot all about this ! stupid college work ah well here is my attempt. -- Barryob  (Contribs)   (Talk)  19:34, 3 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, I made one, although it seems one's already been made. -- p<font color="#254117">b<font color="#006600">r ok s 1 3 talk? 04:07, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

PE1979e.png and PE1994e.png
Article(s): European Parliament election, 1979, European Parliament election, 1994 Request:

Dear Graphic_Lab/Image_workshop. A discussion has taken place on "en:Talk:Political_groups_of_the_European_Parliament". That discussion came to a conclusion. The conclusion was that the color of "CDI" should be changed from #009900 to #999999, and that the color of of "ERA" should be changed from #009900 to #FFFF00. Please make the following changes:


 * Change the color of "CDI" on Image:PE1979e.png from #009900 to #999999.
 * "CDI" (see here) is the dark green stripe in the middle of Image:PE1979e.png. That dark green stripe needs to be changed from "#009900" to "#999999".


 * Change the color of "ERA" on Image:PE1994e.png from #009900 to #FFFF00.
 * "ERA" (see here) is the dark green stripe in the middle of Image:PE1994e.png. That dark green stripe needs to be changed from "#009900" to "#FFFF00".

These two hemicycles are part of a suite depicting European Parliament results from 1979-2004, and so should be kept in sync with each other. So do not svgify them unless you're willing to svg all the others and commit to keeping them in sync.

Thank you for your assistance. Any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me at User talk:Anameofmyveryown. Regards, Anameofmyveryown (talk) 02:30, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Graphist opinion: Both done as requested; please update the image descriptions accordingly. I hope they're OK. Best, Fvasconcellos (t·c) 16:35, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Reply to Graphist Eccellente! Thank you very much, that's exactly what we wanted. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Regards, Anameofmyveryown (talk) 18:31, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

David Foster Wallace
Article(s): David Foster Wallace Request: -- Could someone please crop this photo for the Infobox for the article on the subject. He looks great in this one... smiling... the other photo currently in DFW's Infobox can be used below in the biography, showing him in action. This one should be used as his portrait even though it is a shame to crop out his upbeat fans.DFW tragedy (talk) 00:44, 15 September 2008 (UTC) Graphist opinion: What do you think? It is just a pity that the original image does not have a higher resolution. --pabouk (talk) 19:24, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * It is awesome. Much higher res than I expected. I have added it to the article. Thanks.DFW tragedy (talk) 22:27, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * You are welcome. I am glad that you like it. I set the real image width in the article to avoid blurring caused by magnifying. (The infobox template expects images of a higher resolution...) I hope it is OK. --pabouk (talk) 07:51, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I compared the two image sizes and you're right. I guess this is a problem Wikipedia-wide.DFW tragedy (talk) 01:00, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Your crop is being used here and here. It's neat how good things spread on the web.DFW tragedy (talk) 04:39, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Holy Roman Empire
— Clearly done 68.39.174.238 (talk) 15:39, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

If it was vectorised, how complete would it be? i.e., should the image want to just be the eagle, CoAs and crucifix in the middle. I could for see this cleaner version used alongside the original as a sort of 'key', to show what states are shown. This would be more useful than including the comets, parchment around the legs ect. On a similar topic, should the names above the shields be kept, and if so should they be in the original, I assume Old High German, language, or in English, Or maybe if it were to be used for reference, using numbers to relate to a key in the text, as the trend seems to be. Any comments would be appreciated.--<font face="Century Gothic" size="3">23230  talk 11:08, 17 August 2008 (UTC)


 * The parchments are attached to each "feather", so I wouldn't be surprized if they designate each "feather" as being some region or administrative grouping. I do support the idea of having a very simplified vector version with just the eagle, cross, coats and scrolls (if they are worthwhile) in English. That would allow some template work so you could click on, say "Bayern" and open Bavaria. Distribution of seats in the Austrian Landtage has an example of what I'm thinking of. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 17:43, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Alright, Here are two Example, Work in Progress images. The main focus is on the shields and not on the eagle, so in one version it is left as simple lines. This supplements the fact this is not meant to replace the original, and in my opinion brilliant, image, but to supplement it, to show clearly which shields are which. I believe the left image is clearer to show the shields and their positions, but it seems a little plain, so the right compensates. Clearly if more detail is needed in the right image it could be added, but I feel it would detract from the shields. Also, at this stage I left out the banners at the bottom explaining the ranks and the titles for the shields, so it can be used on other projects, and if you can roll over to see the link it makes it somewhat unnecessary.

I certainly like the above idea as for the clickable image, and it adds to what I think this image is for. The original is best for art students and historians, but for people wanting to understand the picture and the rankings in the Empire this image could be underneath to explain. The feathers do have meanings, as I gathered from here, however only as much as the top larger row shows the seven electors and, for some reason, the civil governor of Rome. I seem to gather that on the far left wing are the peasants, so I assume that the far right are the 'Great Princes'. Anyway, this link from the German page seems to explain the meanings well, and gives useful information, but my German is not that good, so if anyone could translate, or know someone who could, it would be appreciated.

As I mentioned, this article on the eagle (the Quaternionenadler) exists on the German wiki, and with this image and the information gained from the article above could be a good excuse to make one here. Comments are welcome. --<font face="Century Gothic" size="3">23230  talk 19:40, 18 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Perfect. Both images emphasize the main content (Sub-shields) by removing the distractions of the photo. I hadn't noticed before that there WAS a "top row", but now it is clearly shown. Do you think you could go to the next step with these images? 68.39.174.238 (talk) 01:08, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

I apologise for the delay, but I have been away for a while. Here is the completed Image:

Image:Quaterionenadler.svg What do you think? It shows the shields clearly. The idea of the links on the image to the page is a good one, but whilst we have pages on Brandenburg, Saxony & Magdeburg (the examples I used, in the top right hand corner), some of the shields don't have links, and some of them I couldn't find so I just copied them from the original image. As for the meanings you would have to ask a heraldry expert which I am not, sadly. If you find any differences then please say.--<font face="Century Gothic" size="3">23230  talk 12:13, 31 August 2008 (UTC)


 * That's amazzing and ought to be approved. The blue-white rhomboids are Bavaria; the bottom one on the 2nd feather to the left is Baden; bottom one on the 5th feather to the left is Lubeck, above that looks like Aachen. The top of the 1st left feather is the "Prefect of Rome", it seems. I don't know what we should do about that, since a link to Rome doesn't give any context of why a German(ic) state would have it on its coat. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 21:21, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much. I belive the best way to use it would be to make an article on the Quaterionenadler, simmilar to de:Quaternionenadler on the German Wikipedia. Anyway, I suppose this is done then.--<font face="Century Gothic" size="3">23230  talk 09:11, 1 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I've added the eagle(s) to the articel. Now people skilled in imagemaping should add the correct rectangles, because I'm guaranteed to screw some up. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 22:47, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

I have a question, sould the coa's not link to there respective parts of the Holy Roman Empire, for example Saxony is linked to the Free State of Saxony instead of the Electorate of Saxony? Are you guys going for current day territories or Holy Roman territories?

I also I just happend to know one of the shields, third feather from the right, bottom shield (red lion): Duchy of Limburg. also I think the red cross is the Archbishopric of Trier and the black cross is the Electorate of Cologne, the wheel next to the black cross Archbishopric of Mainz.--SelfQ (talk) 18:30, 2 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Since this is historick, it definitely should use the historick articels, EG. Electorates, Archbishopricks, Landgravates, etc, etc. I've made the change here, and will make the change there (On the article). 68.39.174.238 (talk) 00:37, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much all of you. I have currently started on research for the shields; so far I have found about half of them. User:Martin23230/Quaterionenadler shows how far I have got, I took the list from, which shows the names and positions in German. The problem being that many of them seem wildly different to the current CoAs. For example, Braunschweig (Brunswick) is marked as the shield under Rome. However, on the page, its CoA is similar to Limburg, rather than the two yellow lions on a red field. Should we go with names and them link to the articles, or search for the CoAs and link to the country that way? As I said, about half of the shields have been found, but for the positions only the far left, the peasants, and the third from the right, the knights, have been translatable, the problem being it is on old German, so a translator won’t cover it, only a native speaker. Oh, and thanks SelfQ, that was one I couldn't get. In the German it is marked as Strundeck. Anyway, if anyone wants to help out they can feel free.--<font face="Century Gothic" size="3">23230  talk 16:21, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

London 2012 Paralympic logo
Article(s): 2012 Summer Paralympics Request: Hi, could you please rotate the first logo so that it's straight, like the second one? Then, could the second image be made into an SVG version. Thanks Gammondog (talk) 14:32, 18 September 2008 (UTC) Graphist opinion: Does that look okay? Image:LondonParalympicLogo2.svg and Image:London Paralympics 2012.svg §hep   •   ¡Talk to me!  02:27, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Brilliant, thanks very much. Gammondog (talk) 20:20, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Great! §hep   •   ¡Talk to me!  22:46, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

American_quebec_1775.jpg - SVGify
Article(s):
 * Richard Montgomery
 * Invasion of Canada (1775)

Request: Just a simple SVGify. Thanks! --  - Jameson L. Tai  <font color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 07:02, 12 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Does anyone want to take a stab at this?  - Jameson L. Tai  <font color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 01:03, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Graphist opinion: I'll have a look at this. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 16:02, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Not to seem impatient, just wanted any graphist to know that I'm still waiting and interested to see this image SVGified. Thanks.   - Jameson L. Tai  <font color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 14:51, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much. Please let me know if you have questions regarding the file.  :)   - Jameson L. Tai  <font color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 06:13, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, here's one :) What's the feature at the bottom left of the map—the line running parallel to the Mohawk and the Hudson—supposed to represent? I originally thought it was a river, but it's unlabeled in the original, I can't find it in any modern maps, and my knowledge of New England geography is pretty sketchy. Since the original contains a few inaccuracies (perhaps deliberate omissions?), I thought it better to ask. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 01:03, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure exactly what you're talking about. Are you talking about the "shaded" regions that represent elevation of over 6k feet? or did you mean the semi dotted lines that separate the old colonies?  Thanks for taking the time to do this by the way :)   - Jameson L. Tai  <font color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 20:01, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I meant the squiggly line at the very bottom left of the map, parallel to the Hudson River and the Mohawk River. I managed to find it in the original source of the map—it's also supposed to be high ground, but the area was somehow left unhatched. Anyway, it's done now and I'll upload shortly (as soon as I finish cleaning up the code). Fvasconcellos (t·c) 20:11, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Here you go. How's that? Fvasconcellos (t·c) 02:01, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot! :D It looks awesome. You've got to teach me how you guys do this some day!  - Jameson L. Tai  <font color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 06:55, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Lots of patience and the Pen tool :) Fvasconcellos (t·c) 15:46, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Europa Barbarorum logo
Article(s): Europa Barbarorum Request: I did a pretty bad job cropping it from the source image (it looks a bit wonky); if someone could make it look more level and uniform by going back to the source image and re-cropping, that would be very much appreciated. It Is Me Here (talk) 17:56, 15 September 2008 (UTC) It's now been done, thanks! It Is Me Here (talk) 15:05, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Software Banner
Article(s):WikiProject Software Request: Please change the image into a .svg version. -- <em style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:12pt;color:#E49B0F"> Tyw7, Leading Innovations ‍ ‍‍ (Talk  ●  Contributions) 10:13, 20 September 2008 (UTC) Graphist opinion: How's that? -- p<font color="#254117">b<font color="#006600">r ok s 1 3 talk? 19:42, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, on a slightly unrelated question, do you just replace the image on wikipedia and add alternative to the old version, delete the old version, or something else? &eta;oian  &Dagger;orever &eta;ew &Dagger;rontiers  19:47, 21 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Really any of those. You could have the raster image requested to be deleted, but because the image is licensed under CCA-3 and GFDL, deleting the jpg image would break the attribution path, so it probably wouldn't be deleted. The only thing to do really is to replace the jpg image with the svg version on all of the pages it is on and then leave it be. -- p<font color="#254117">b<font color="#006600">r ok s 1 3 talk? 04:42, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. What's funny is that anyone really could have made this (or something similar) originally one, so the attribution to keep is laughable (imo, the fact that it was made into svg is what really counts), but. &eta;oian   &Dagger;orever &eta;ew &Dagger;rontiers  05:57, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Fūrinkazan
Article(s): Fūrinkazan Request: match svg with the gold and brown tones of png, use pole-and-ties framework from something like http://flagspot.net/flags/jp-d_at.html to show it really is a flag Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 06:06, 21 September 2008 (UTC) Graphist opinion: I gave it a go, what do you think? I wasn't sure what color the pole should be so made it black for now as well as the rings. §hep  •   ¡Talk to me!  20:53, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Great start! Please make the outside top and left edge geometrically straight-per http://flagspot.net/flags/jp-d_at.html the black is the pole, the white (which looks like it should be the pole) is actually edging, please also note the straps are different shades for some reason. Thank you so much! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 04:56, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I was looking to find something in color similar to what you gave me and I didn't have much luck. I hope this is more accurate?  Once you said straps that gave me a better idea, so the middle version you see is when I was trying some ring type structures in their early phases.  I hope this is better?  §hep   •   ¡Talk to me!  00:06, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Getting better! Not all straps seem to reach the outside edge of the pole, yet. Anyone have thoughts whether the straps should be colored like the original photo or not? Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 00:33, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
 * A lightbulb just clicked for me! (And now InkScape won't work..crap) As soon as I understand what the starps are I can't color them.  I'll reinstall it and see what happens.  §hep   •   ¡Talk to me!  00:35, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, I hope that's better than the blank. §hep   •   ¡Talk to me!  01:12, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Perfect, just stunning, thank you so much! Would you overwrite the original svg? Thanks again, Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 01:15, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm surprised you're happy, I figured I screwed up along the way (heh). Will overwrite!  §hep   •   ¡Talk to me!  01:26, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Portrait of Aaron Sorkin
Article(s): Aaron Sorkin Request: Hi: I would like to request that a kindly wikigraphist help me with creating a portrait out of the above image of Aaron Sorkin for the Infobox for the Aaron Sorkin article. This is a much more flattering picture of him than the one being currently used. I would really appreciate any help with this. Thank you. Homely Features (talk) 21:37, 20 September 2008 (UTC) Graphist opinion: How's this? I tried cropping it closer (and wider), but it looked a bit unbalanced. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 01:35, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Your crop is great. Thanks. I'm not sure if I accurately placed it in the Infobox. I removed the 110px setting to blow it up. Could be too big. However, at least now there's a decent photograph to match the remarkable wikibiography of Aaron Sorkin. Thank you for helping me. Homely Features (talk) 03:02, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Anytime. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 15:45, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

The Scout Association of Hong Kong
Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 03:31, 25 September 2008 (UTC) Image:Hksarsa.jpg 100px|Edit1 Article(s): Request: Please rotate to straight, remove background and reduce file size, there's no reason for this to be so large. Thanks! -- Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 16:18, 18 September 2008 (UTC) Graphist opinion: Edit1 - How's that? Mfield (talk) 02:50, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * That is perfect, thank you so much for that! Please overwrite the original! Thanks again, that's really cool! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 03:03, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Replaced, done. Mfield (talk) 03:16, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Flag-map of Bhutan
Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 17:44, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Article(s): several Request: redo so it doesn't cut off the dragon head... Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 09:53, 25 September 2008 (UTC) Graphist opinion: How's that? — <b class="IPA"> ₪₪  ch1902   ₪₪ </b> 17:25, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Perfect, just exactly what was needed, thank you! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 17:44, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

A simple equation
$$14\sqrt{x}+|15|=|71|\,\!$$

Articels: Equals sign

Request: SVGify this equation, so that it can be displayed as part of a double image stack alongside the original (hard to read by modern eyes) equation. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 22:30, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Oppinion: How's this? Debate  木  09:31, 2 September 2008 (UTC)


 * The second looks a little internally strange. EG. Is the "x" in a different fontface? 68.39.174.238 (talk) 00:27, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I freely admit that I'm no expert in mathematical symbology, but that's the way the x is displayed when written as an equation in Word, as well as how it's displayed in the mathematical mark-up you used above (ie $${x}$$: $$14\sqrt{x}+|15|=|71|\,\!$$ ), so I presume that the typeface of the x is mathematically significant. Nonetheless, the type-face can be easily changed if required. Debate   木  02:59, 3 September 2008 (UTC)


 * For this it doesn't have to be perfect. I strongly suspect that a featured image could be found of some part of this, but will let others decide... 68.39.174.238 (talk) 23:41, 3 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Variable names such as x are typically rendered in an italic font in order to distinguish them from constants--so the font change is correct. However, the equation still looks strange. To make it more legible, the operators, + and =, should be surrounded with spaces. Rangergordon (talk) 10:33, 18 October 2008 (UTC)