Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Map workshop/Archive/Apr 2020

New Commonwealth realms map

 * Article(s):
 * Commonwealth realm, among others.


 * Request:
 * Okay, would someone please create a new SVG map that combines elements from both of the above maps, one that:
 * 1) Displays all the current Commonwealth realms (in dark blue, like on both maps).


 * 2) Displays all the various overseas territories of Commonwealth realms (in light blue, like on the first map).


 * 3) Displays all the former Commonwealth realms (in dark red, like on the second map).


 * Thanks. Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 20:56, 4 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Discussion:

Abortion law map
Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 19:04, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Abortion law
 * Article(s):

The colour used for New Zealand on this map probably needs changing/updating after the passing of Abortion Legislation Bill 2019 on 18 March 2020. Further information can be found here - Abortion in New Zealand. Helper201 (talk) 18:55, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Request:


 * Discussion:

✅ It looks like a colour change to blue was made by User:Jedi Friend on 24th March 2020. gringer (talk) 04:58, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Add new route to highway map
Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 19:04, 22 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Article(s):
 * Four pages at en:wp, plus pages on 22 other wikis


 * Request:
 * This file hasn't been modified since 2006. Since that time, Interstate 69 in Indiana has doubled in length, and only the northern half of the route (visible at File:I-69 (IN) map.png) appears on this map.  Please add the southern half of I-69 to the U.S. routes map.  Nyttend backup (talk) 22:01, 4 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Discussion:


 * the map shown shows U.S. Numbered Highways, not Interstate highways. Are you sure this is the right map? - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 22:16, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
 * It also has a color for "major and selected auxiliary Interstates", e.g. the thin line matching the course of Interstate 64 in Indiana and the northern section of I-69 in Indiana and Michigan, and that's what I was requesting to be expanded. Nyttend backup (talk) 13:24, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I see now. Thank you. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 15:14, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ I've uploaded the new file and placed it in the gallery. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 15:08, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, thank you for the help. Nyttend (talk) 11:46, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Typo fix
Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 19:03, 22 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Article(s):
 * Trewartha climate classification, plus four other pages here, and ca:Classificació climàtica de Trewartha


 * Request:
 * At bottom left is the word "ommited"; please correct the spelling to "omitted". -- Nyttend (talk) 11:45, 20 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Discussion:
 * ✅ removed an 'm', duplicated a 't', and adjusted locations to make everything look nice again. gringer (talk) 05:21, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

SVG color boundary error
Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 19:03, 22 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Article(s):
 * 2020 coronavirus pandemic in Ohio


 * Request:
 * The northwestern corner county has a significant amount of whitespace in its northwestern corner. Is it possible to revise this so that the color zone's boundary matches the county's boundary, as is the case with other counties?  Nyttend (talk) 14:32, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

✅ corrected boundaries of Williams, Mahoning and Columbiana Counties to eliminate whitespace. Oogle12 (talk) 21:54, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Discussion:

Ptolemy's Stone Tower

 * Article(s):
 * Stone Tower (Ptolemy)


 * Request:
 * User:DutchTreat created an excellent map. bender235 (talk) 18:30, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
 * The article could use a map depicting the "candidates" for what Ptolemy mentioned as "Stone Tower," the supposed midpoint of the trade routes from China to the West. Those are
 * Tashkent
 * Sulaiman-Too
 * Daroot-Korgon
 * Tashkurgan
 * Erkeshtam
 * All of these articles include map coordinates, so it should be possible to locate them on a unified map. Ideally, the map would be topographic like the one of the Silk Road above, i.e. depicting elevation and terrain, and maybe also include the route of the Silk Road. The article mentions how all of those five sites are depicted in this map, but it's not exactly of high quality. -- bender235 (talk) 21:26, 7 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Discussion:

I would be glad to help if I am able. Using an SVG Locator map is one quikc option. This one is lacking two parts of your request: the topological relief and highlighting of Silk Road pathway. With a custom drawn map, these elements could be introduced. I'm afraid the effect level is much higher to build such a map. Please see if this would be suitable for now. - DutchTreat (talk) 10:46, 15 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the response. As for the details of the map, I think the topological relief is an important part because the "Stone Tower" was supposedly a marker on one of the mountain passes from Central Asia into the Tarim Basin and further to China, so the location (and maybe names) of the prominent mountain ranges should be included. On the other hand, modern country borders are probably not necessary. --bender235 (talk) 16:43, 15 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Good points, . I agree with priotizing these elements. Started working on a topo map for the page. Will get back to you for your review and corrections. - DutchTreat (talk) 13:12, 16 May 2020 (UTC)


 * for your review, I published a map of the Stone Tower locations, as you requested: File:Map of Ptolemy Stone Tower Locations on Silk Road.png I used the map you suggested from Thomas, History of Ancient Geography (1948), Fig 56 as the main input.  Made a few changes to the names of locations to be consistent with the corresponding Wikipedia article titles (like Tashkend -> Tashkent, Darautkurgan -> Daroot-Korgon, etc.) Please provide me with your feedback and any corrections or improvements you would like to see. - DutchTreat (talk) 13:06, 22 May 2020 (UTC)


 * that map looks awesome! Good job. The only thing I could think of for further improvement (although it might involve undue effort) is to roughly sketch the silk road in its entirety from Chang'an to Palmyra in the map in the upper right (just those two endpoints, not any of the cities in between, since that would clutter the tiny map way too much), so that one gets an impression of what part of the silk road is captured in the Stone Towers map. --bender235 (talk) 15:39, 22 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Glad that you like it! This is my first map on Wikipedia, so I am still learning how to improve. Your suggestion about tracing the Silk Road on the locator map in the upper right corner is a good one. I will make that change. -- DutchTreat (talk) 15:51, 22 May 2020 (UTC)


 * ✅ Added the Silk Route from Chang'an to Palmyra into Locator map. If you are satisfied with the map, please make your request resolved - DutchTreat (talk) 17:18, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Prostitution in Europe map
Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 19:02, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Prostitution in Europe
 * Article(s):

Per what is stated in the main text of the Prostitution in Europe article, Bosnia and Herzegovina should be blue on this map and not red, as according to the main text of the linked page prostitution is legal in the country, but related activities such as solicitation and keeping a brothel are illegal. However, by having the country coloured red on the map it contradicts this by signifying that prostitution is illegal in the country. Helper201 (talk) 08:23, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Request:


 * Discussion:

✅ John B123 (talk) 23:00, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Requesting an SVG map of Invasion of Yugoslavia

 * Article(s):
 * Invasion of Yugoslavia, Travanjski rat


 * Request: Can You please make SVG map out of base mape of Kingdom of Yugoslavia and maps from Yugoslavian Military Encyclopedia
 * Hello, I'm going to add a lot of information about the Invasion of Yugoslavia into the English and Croatian articles, so I need a good map of invasion. I would need a topographic map of the Kingdom of Yugoslavia in which all the information related to the event itself would then be added. I have attached some pictures from the Military Encyclopedia, if they don't accurately display the names of all cities, villages and rivers, I can send you an exact list of them or a more detailed picture. As an example, I have provided the location map of the Kingdom of Yugoslavia since 1941. Thanks in advance -- Kaštel Stari (talk) 13:31, 2 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Discussion:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uWeZHmd6AoEDCha6tg9XICUvdEEMyPc5/view?usp=sharing| Map of Invasion of Yugoslavia from Yugoslavian Military Encyclopedia https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D7Ld-4IgEWK0nrZ0yl_5zk7KfpFZB83x/view?usp=sharing| Map of Invasion of Yugoslavia from Yugoslavian Military Encyclopedia https://drive.google.com/file/d/14T3wzXFp_UaZ5Bz87a5Cc-v9Eur5JQWy/view?usp=sharing| Map of Invasion of Yugoslavia from Yugoslavian Military Encyclopedia https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ERBovVmyJKztv8N-jx59N4tIEl5DVXJt/view?usp=sharing| Map of Invasion of Yugoslavia from Yugoslavian Military Encyclopedia First I will need the original links for the images above. Then I will start to include all the information mountains, rivers, etc that you want to included in the base map. So explain what you want or show me, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 18:45, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Hello, the links above are scanned from the military encyclopedia book. So please tell me how to send you some better pictures. Well, this is how I would like. An identical map that is in the pictures as a base map, with all the information . You can give me some different channel of communication. Thanks in advance. Kaštel Stari (talk) 20:29, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
 * So the images you have linked to are from physical books and do not exist online as I understand you.
 * Then I will need the complete Name of the book/s, Name of author/s, ISBN numbers (if they have), page numbers for each map. This is because I have to state where the information that will be in the map comes from.
 * You write "An identical map" is what you want. I can't use the maps you provide and copy them because I'm pretty sure there is copyright on them. If there is not you will have to prove that. But I can use them as a source of information and in combination with your knowledge we will be able to produce maps for your usage.
 * I looked at the images you linked to, are they not all the same map?
 * You can send me an email from my contact page, I will replay and then you can attach images to me.
 * I will start to put in all of the topographic information so we will get that correct first. --Goran tek-en (talk) 11:56, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's correct images doesn't exist on-line.
 * The full name of the encyclopedia is: Vojna enciklopedija. The book doesn't have an author per se, but it has an editor and it is: Nikola Gažević. The page of where is map is between 186 and 187, but the map itself doesn't have a numeration.
 * You doesn't have to worry about copyright isue, because the country and the company where this book was publish doesn't exist anymore, and you will just need to put Vojna encikolopedija as your source and all will be ok. I write on Croatian Wikipedia and in most of my articles I put like this for example: ”Akindžije”, U: Vojna enciklopedija, sv. 1., Beograd: Izdanje redakcije Vojne enciklopedije, 1970., str. 69. Also I believe that copyright ceases 50 years after the book was published.
 * Yes they are from the same map, but I took the photos from different angels so that the whole map can be seen.
 * Yes that will be great, thank you Kaštel Stari (talk) 13:39, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
 * The rules regarding what we can copy is not exactly the same at Commons as on Wikipedia, I think Commons is a bit stricter.
 * Now there is a draft on the base map for you to check. Give me feedback, thanks.
 * Once this is OK you will have to give me info on what more you want, cities etc. --Goran tek-en (talk) 17:48, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
 * The draft map and topography is excellent. Now next step in my opinion is to add cities and train lines. Because this map is for military operation, to put to many information on one map would be too much. So I was thinking about two to three maps. First is situation map and the next one are maps that shows troop movements. And of course if you need some help deciphering the map data, I'm here. Kaštel Stari (talk) 19:31, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I will need you to tell me which cities you want, and which railroads you want. If you can show me on a map it would be great, otherwise in other way. You can go to my user page and under Tools to the left you will find Email this user. You can't attach anything here but send me an email and I will respond and then you can attach stuff. If you have better image of the map it would be great. Also a translation of the legend in the map would help me. Remember that I have zero knowledge about this subject, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 11:31, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I send the e-mail. Kaštel Stari (talk) 17:07, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for providing me with great material that I could work from, thanks.
 * Here you have two drafts for you to check. You really have to check everything as it's not always so easy to join information from different maps, they all are different.
 * This draft cities is so that you can check the spelling, placing etc easier. The exact placing and visibility of the names I will work with once we have added everything for this map.
 * This draft all is so you can see what a lot of information you want in the map and then all the combat info, I think it will be to much. But lets add everything and then we can discuss what to remove/tone down etc. --Goran tek-en (talk) 14:07, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
 * No I like when it's much to put in, complicated. I'm ever so thankful that you respond and provide me with great feedback. It's so hard when the requester does not as I have no knowledge of this.
 * You marked St. Pazova with yellow but you didn't write what it should be. I have also added other stuff which I missed.
 * All in, names. --Goran tek-en (talk) 18:35, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Well I studied history, so it's kinda my thing :). About St. Pazova, that is my error, everything is correct with that. Now if you could put this map with everything in svg format, as a basic map for Yugoslavia from 1941. And secondly, can you make a couple different examples of maps that do not have the topography so pronounced, because when all the military stuff is put in, it could get a bit confusing. When I see how it will look, then we can decide and slowly start to put in military stuff. Thanks Kaštel Stari (talk) 19:54, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

At my end I work on a svg file and I have used you linked to as base so it should be correct. The drafts I show you are png versions rendered from my svg file. The reason is because the server for my drive doesn't render svg files the same way as the server for wikimedia does. So it will show different if I use the svg version, but I work all the time in svg. For my part I want to add all the military stuff and everything else needed, then we can work on what to remove, make less pronounced, which versions you need. I have to see all the information before I can make decisions like that. So tell me which military stuff you want and if you want it to be with symbols. --Goran tek-en (talk) 14:27, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Ok, that's great. Now you have wiki page with Axis order of battle for the invasion of Yugoslavia, and I'll send you a document with examples of croatian military terminology translated in english. Kaštel Stari (talk) 15:08, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't understand what you want me to do with that page. How do you want me to know what to put in? The maps contains a lot of stuff, all of it can't be from the same day, should we not divide it into some kind of chronological order or something. We graphic workers don't do research (like finding which information to use from a page), or searching for info. You have to tell me in some way what to add and then I make it work on a map, hope you understand. --Goran tek-en (talk) 19:13, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, I understand. It's hard to explain, it would be easier to show. Yes you are right, the maps contains advances of troops through different days. Now the first map will show staring positions of both sides. I'll mark you on the maps in blue, units of attacking sides for starters.Kaštel Stari (talk) 21:01, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

I will send you your svg file back now named "troops.svg". It would help me a lot if you could use this file thru out this process. I have moved the images to one layer, let them be there. The info for "start positions" I have put in layer "1". Once we are done with this you can start a new layer "2" and put the next info in that layer, and so on. I hope you understand me. How do you want the text information like "German 2nd Army, 6.IV, XXXXIX Mountain Corps, LI Army Corps, LII Army Corps" to be shown. We have, or how do you want it? Remember it will be a lot of info. What does "6.IV" mean, is it a date or what? --Goran tek-en (talk) 12:07, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Well, I understand but I use inkscape to see svg files just so you know. You can use this template to show "German 2nd Army, XXXXIX Mountain Corps, LI Army Corps, LII Army Corps". The "6.IV" is a date, and leave it in this format. Kaštel Stari (talk) 15:18, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I also work in Inkscape so there is no problem there. In this draft there are 2 different ways to show the military info. We have to decide which to use or if it should be in another way because it will be a lot of info. Look at this draft it shows all the layers but the topographic is dimmed down. Of course I will move the cities names around and make them more visible but still it's a lot and imagine with all the military stuff. So we have to decide one way with the military info before I continue.
 * As I don't really know how yo will use this map it's hard to give you some ideas, but we could have one map of the whole area but on that we limit the military info (maybe other also) to just the bigger pieces like "German 2nd army". Then we can make maps of different parts of the whole map and there we can put all the detail info. --Goran tek-en (talk) 17:38, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Great, so I would use military info with flag in it. Also you used curent german flag, but this is the right one for this time period. Also flags for Italian and Hungarian troops. So I agree with you with too much information, so could you put all military info in but remove all railroads, so that I can see how it looks. Next on topographic front I forget to tell you, could you please add rivers Cetina, Neretva and Drina. They are important for navigating the map. I like you idea with multiple maps but I think we can decide on that when you put in all military info, is that okay with you? Kaštel Stari (talk) 21:24, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes we will add all first. You have to check the rivers and also I'm not sure about the military symbols. They do not exist with exactly your words so check the template and tell me what to change. Draft with start positions. --Goran tek-en (talk) 20:40, 27 March 2020 (UTC)usp=sharing
 * So I checked it and the river's position is right. Regarding unit symbols: for XXXXIX Mountain Corps and every other Mountain Corps is this, you can also and and put it XIV Motorised Corps underneath 1st Panzer Group, for 3rd Alpine Group is the symbol for battlegroup and for this. For Truppe di Zara you can just put something like this, everything else is delightfully. Kaštel Stari (talk) 21:44, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Draft start1.
 * I'm sorry but I don't understand this;
 * "you can also and and put it XIV Motorised Corps underneath 1st Panzer Group", do you want me to move XIV Motorised Corps to underneath 1st Panzer Group?
 * "for 3rd Alpine Group is the symbol for battlegroup and for this", the word battlegroup is not used in that military template, you have to use the words from there otherwise I will not know which symbol to use, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 18:13, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
 * No problem, I'll clarify. Just move the symbol for 1st Panzer Group a little to the right, and in its place put the symbol of XIV Motorized Corps. Yes for 3rd Alpine Group and for the Kampfgruppe (Battlegroup) Đerdap you can use symbol for brigade. Kaštel Stari (talk) 20:12, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Start2. Are you studying from home now in those times? --Goran tek-en (talk) 12:36, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I don't understand? Kaštel Stari (talk) 12:43, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
 * It is a new draft. Then I just wondered as you study if your country also have shut down universities and told everyone to study from home.
 * Oh, well I finished my studies, but yes we can study via internet. Kaštel Stari (talk) 14:51, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Can you give me feedback on this draft, thanks. After this we can move on to the next part. --Goran tek-en (talk) 19:06, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
 * As far as I can see everything is fine. I started plotting the movement of the assault units inside the country, so when I finish, I'll send you an svg file in an email. Kaštel Stari (talk) 19:25, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I send you an email with plotted movement of attacking troops. Kaštel Stari (talk) 09:18, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * When I work on maps I don't know at which size it will be used, and it will vary, so what I do is that I make it work in 100%. In this case with so extremely much info it makes stuff overlapping each other. At this point I don't do anything about it because I think we have to do something like I suggested before, one overall map with just the most important information, and then maps over smaller areas in which we will be able to fit more information. Or maps for the different dates.
 * For the Fast corps and Motorised corp on the top west side and then moving south. At the starting point I just used one symbol for both of them as I didn't find any with the difference between them. So if you want two different we have to decide on what they should look like.
 * I have used the same symbol for Panzer Division and Motorized Infantry Division (also for others). If you want different ones we have to agree on which to use.
 * Draft movements.
 * Draft info. --Goran tek-en (talk) 17:55, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Firstly map looks great and left everything as you did at 100%. My plan is to put all the information on the map, and then we will decide how many smaller maps we will divide the big one and what we will show on them. So don't worry about overcrowding too much.
 * I also looked for Fast corps. It consisted of cavalry, so you can use this symbol for him. For Motorised corps is ok.
 * Panzer Division symbol to use is this one, and for Motorized Infantry Division is this one. So I think these are the correct ones. Kaštel Stari (talk) 20:52, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
 * But this is a NATO symbol, that didn't exist at that time, still use it? We have the one I have used named "Mechanised Infantry, keep that?
 * Draft blue 3, after this will you send new file? --Goran tek-en (talk) 16:12, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Well I would use NATO symbol were the unit is Motorised Infantry, because there is a slight difference between the two symbols. And where is Panzer unit use NATO symbol for armoured unit because this units only have tanks and no infantry. When you put this changes. I'll start with inputing defending forces positions. This forces will be marked in red. Kaštel Stari (talk) 19:40, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Draft blue 4. --Goran tek-en (talk) 17:24, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Great, I'll now start with defending forces. Some units names are in croatian, but I'll do my best to translate them. Kaštel Stari (talk) 18:44, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Draft blue 4. --Goran tek-en (talk) 17:24, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Great, I'll now start with defending forces. Some units names are in croatian, but I'll do my best to translate them. Kaštel Stari (talk) 18:44, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

What is the difference between solid and dashed red areas and what are the the long solid lines? Could you also link to the correct flag for the defending ones.--Goran tek-en (talk) 15:20, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh, yes sorry my bad, there is Map legend so I'll send you a photo with translations, but the long solid lines are different areas of army corps deployment and areas of defence. Put them just as they are. Well, defending forces are from Kingdom of Yugoslavia, Greece and Great Britain so you can use these flags, YUG, GRE, UK. I'll send you the file with marked postions for Greece and UK forces. With Kingdom of Yugoslavia forces you can just put flag near Beograd (Belgrade). Kaštel Stari (talk) 20:00, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry this took so long, have been busy with other parts of life.
 * I haven't made any notes where you put "part of".
 * I haven't found any symbol for fortress infantry, putting infantry there for now.
 * I put the armies but probably not at the right places and I don't have all the numbers for them or I can just remove what I don't have.
 * What should I put with "Coastal defence command (army)".
 * Solid red draft.
 * Dashed red draft. --Goran tek-en (talk) 17:40, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 * No problem, better ever than never :)
 * I just put "part of" so that you don't find it confusing to have two division with same name in to places.
 * Yes, that is OK, but you can put also but symbol for fortress unit from this site. Just put the symbol and underneath put Šibenik or Boka kotorska.
 * Yes with armies position you must double check their positions, for UK and Greek forces just leave their flags with nothing else. You must also double check if you forgot to put all the names of divisons because I noticed that you missed to put 1st Infantry Division Cer name to division symbol.
 * I think it would be the best just to put Coastal defence command across the places where is on the map because ther isn't a symbol for it.
 * Otherwise everything is cool and looks perfect. Kaštel Stari (talk) 07:31, 27 April 2020 (UTC)


 * What I can see I haven't received any information on the different locations for armies except for " near Beograd". If you have sent me anything else you will have to send it to me again.
 * For the armies and other things I have missed or made faulty. I do the graphic work and I send you drafts which you have to check, you have the knowledge. I do my best but it's up to you to tell me what to edit/change.
 * I just remembered that we have a symbol for fortress which I have put out.
 * Solid red draft.
 * Dashed draft2. --Goran tek-en (talk) 12:49, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 * No, locations of the armies are good.
 * Yes, I understand. So you need to put for 1st Infantry Division Cer (it's located near Tuzla) name Cer because there isn't one now. Everything else is ok, as I see it now.
 * Yep, It's a great idea for symbol for fortress, leave it at that. Kaštel Stari (talk) 13:05, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Solid draft2. What is next? --Goran tek-en (talk) 14:13, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Well, next... You suggested we create more maps that would detail the parts of battlefield. How many more maps would you make for that? You can make draft of them so I can see, is it good or not. But we must have one main map and then smaller maps Kaštel Stari (talk) 21:02, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

So let's finish the main map, this is all except topographic, and this is all with out battle information.So you have to tell me what to keep in the main map. For the more detailed or zoomed in maps it is up to you a lot. How will you need the different maps, divided into battles, dates or in some other way. We have to decide on the different areas first so that I can see how big each is to be able to create a scale to enlarge each by, the same scale. Once we have decided that we do one and make that work before we continue. But it is your needs that has to demand how to dived the main map into smaller areas, more detailed maps. So let's start by the main map, what to show there. --Goran tek-en (talk) 18:08, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, it's a little bit too much all together. So for the main map I was thinking just to put all attacikng forces but their main postitions. So in other words, all attacikng forces position outside the country, without movement arrows. Just where they were in the begining. For defending forcces but them all in, also without movement arrows. I think that the map should be topographical, and for the towns put in these five: Ljubljana, Zagreb, Sarajevo, Beograd and Skoplje. Also don't put in raildroad tracks. I'll need to see that, and if it looks good the we can move on. Kaštel Stari (talk) 20:59, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I have found minor things that was wrong and I have changed them so please check everything again.
 * I put in 3 Territorial army close to Skopje but I don't know if everything is correct by it.
 * In some situations it's hard to understand if a unit information is for one or several areas, so check and tell me where to edit.
 * I have started a legend so check it and tell me what you want there and what to write for the different symbols I have just put in what I know right now.
 * The png draft has higher resolution so you can enlarge it Draft main1. --Goran tek-en (talk) 17:54, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I reviewed the new draft and:
 * You can remove double red lines that are marked XXX in legend, that lines we will use in smaller maps in this one they just cover things. Also from Costal defence command you can remove (Army)
 * Legend is great in the main one you can remove XXX, we will use this one later.
 * For now everything looks ok, send me just one final draft I'll review it and then this phase is over and we can move one, ok? Kaštel Stari (talk) 21:01, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I just realized one thing. For you and me it's very obvious which area of the world this map shows (it can be used outside of your article also) so I think we should do something about it. We can put in the countries names and/or a oversight map like in this draft.
 * Draft main2.
 * If this draft is fine I will need the following;
 * - Name of the file
 * - Description (/language)
 * - Captions/s (/language)
 * - Category/ies at commons
 * - Captions/s (/language)
 * - Category/ies at commons


 * to be able to upload it at commons. If you don'y know about Captions read here.
 * After this we can move on and maybe you can use this main map to find out how you want to divide it into parts for the other maps.--Goran tek-en (talk) 15:21, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I reviewed the new draft and:
 * Oversight map is good idea, and it can stay
 * You forget to put symbols for some armies, for example 7th, 3rd and 2nd army. Also you marked 3rd cavalry division as infantry division. And lastly in the last map that I send you in multiple spots I put text like this 5 cavalry regiments & 2 cavalry divisions or somthing like that. You can remove those units symbols because we will use this in latter maps.
 * - Name of the file: Map of invasion of Yugoslavia - Situation map
 * - Description (english): The map shows the initial positions of the Axis forces and the Yugoslav Royal Army.
 * - Category/ies at commons: Invasion of Yugoslavia, Balkans Campaign (World War II), World War II in Yugoslavia in 1941, Battles of World War II in Yugoslavia Kaštel Stari (talk) 13:54, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Main draft3. --Goran tek-en (talk) 15:47, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Great, everything is in order and you can upload this map Kaštel Stari (talk) 19:59, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

I had some code problems so I had to copy/past a lot but to me everything looks fine. Please just check so nothing has turned out wrong, thanks. Now you can find it here Commons:file:Map of invasion of Yugoslavia - Situation map.svg. Let' start on the others. --Goran tek-en (talk) 15:12, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Everything looks fine with corrcet names and stuff, but there is visible white backround near dates; for example near Hungarian flag there is date 11.IV and near it is white background.
 * So I was thinking to divide the map in equal proportions, so in 3 or 4 parts. What is the best ratio for this map size? Kaštel Stari (talk) 19:28, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
 * There is a lot of problems with rendering texts from svg to png at wikimedia and also just showing svg files. I have uploaded a new version and I hope that will fix it. The preview has to be updated which can take some time. But you can view the different pre rendered sizes if you haven't before.
 * 3 in height. We can enlarge 3 times but those maps will be wider 2-3 times than the main map.
 * 2 in height. We can enlarge the map 2 times and all four will have the same ratio as the main map.
 * About 2 in height. This is just to show, if there was any obvious lines to cut like that following some battle lines or other. We can enlarge about 2 times and vary a bit in width. The advantage of this is if you can find a cutting path so that movements and stuff could be kept intact.
 * So you tell me which you want and then I will make a test of a part because I have to redo a lot, so I want to test first. --Goran tek-en (talk) 17:42, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Now is great!!
 * Let's see how it will lok like with 2 in height. But can you move diagonal line little more up so so that is above the city of Zadar. Kaštel Stari (talk) 20:05, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry but I see now that my explanations were not very good.
 * 2 in height. If you are talking about this which diagonal line?
 * Free hand lines. If you mean this one my diagonal lines (free hand) are just something I made up to show how I mean. You have the knowledge on where to draw the lines but they should divide the map so each part is about 50 % of the main maps height. You can draw the lines in the svg file you are sending me. We can make some adjustments later also but be as accurate you can. Maybe you didn't get my answer above as I forgot to sign it, sorry. --Goran tek-en (talk) 16:37, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
 * No, no my bad I was not clear enough. I'll send you the file where I will mark which diagonal line I meant. I'll be marked in purple Kaštel Stari (talk) 20:49, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

I got really confused when you talked about "diagonal" line. The one you changed is horisontal, diagonal is from corner to corner in a box. Draft of part 3, south west. I left the flags in there so one can see which countries is with who. Check if this is what you want, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 17:16, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh, yes, my bad. But in the end you understood well what I wanted. I's great, everything looks good and it can be easily deduced. Now, will the whole map fit in 4 smaller ones or will you need maybe 6. But You do with 4, for now! Kaštel Stari (talk) 18:46, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't understand this word "deduced"? I will continue to do the other 3 small maps. might take some time. --Goran tek-en (talk) 18:24, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Ok, slowly but surely. :) Kaštel Stari (talk) 18:45, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Draft of part 4, south east corner. I don't know what to write in legend for the double line. This is not the optimal way to have a legend. We can also make the whole image wider and put all the legend on one side, do you want that? Check everything because when scaling I have to redo a lot, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 14:13, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
 * So for the double line, they are demarcation lines for armies. Yes, I agree there are to much legends, well don't forget to put Hungarian flag in the legend, and I agree with you to make image wider and puto all on the one side, or put all the legend below the picture, maybe so or not to put all legends on all the maps, but only on the first one. I's hard for me to tell you what looks good until I see it, sorry Kaštel Stari (talk) 21:17, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Of course you have to see, no problem. To me we have to do the same on all of the 4 part maps and I think there should be legends in them all. You can never no how they will be used in the future. I think it's better to put it on the side as most have there screens in a landscape rotation, more space on the sides.
 * 3 south west.
 * 4 south east. --Goran tek-en (talk) 12:53, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes I agree, so put all legends on the side like in 4 south east.. And for the double red line, name it Armies demarcation line. Kaštel Stari (talk) 13:04, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 * 2 north east. --Goran tek-en (talk) 13:57, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, that is great, everything is good Kaštel Stari (talk) 15:47, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 * 1 north-west. --Goran tek-en (talk) 17:58, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Wonderfully, the map is excellent. Kaštel Stari (talk) 19:17, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

I will need the following for the four different files, tag the different 1-nw, 2-ne, 3-sw, 4-se so I can identify which;
 * Name of the file
 * Description (/language)
 * Captions/s (/language)
 * Category/ies at commons

to be able to upload it at commons. If you don'y know about Captions read here.--Goran tek-en (talk) 20:09, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Here it is:

1-nw 2-ne 3-sw 4-se That's it. Kaštel Stari (talk) 21:07, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Name of the file: Map of invasion of Yugoslavia - Northwestern section map
 * Description (/language): The map shows northwestern section of Map of invasion of Yugoslavia. /english
 * Captions/s (/language): Northwestern section of Map of invasion of Yugoslavia, Invasion of Yugoslavia, the April War, 1941. /english
 * Category/ies at commons: Invasion of Yugoslavia, Balkans Campaign (World War II), World War II in Yugoslavia in 1941, Battles of World War II in Yugoslavia, Maps of Yugoslavia during World War II, SVG maps of Yugoslavia
 * Name of the file: Map of invasion of Yugoslavia - Northeastern section map
 * Description (/language): The map shows northeastern section of Map of invasion of Yugoslavia. /english
 * Captions/s (/language): Northeastern section of Map of invasion of Yugoslavia, Invasion of Yugoslavia, the April War, 1941. /english
 * Category/ies at commons: Invasion of Yugoslavia, Balkans Campaign (World War II), World War II in Yugoslavia in 1941, Battles of World War II in Yugoslavia, Maps of Yugoslavia during World War II, SVG maps of Yugoslavia
 * Name of the file: Map of invasion of Yugoslavia - Southwestern section map
 * Description (/language): The map shows southwestern section of Map of invasion of Yugoslavia. /english
 * Captions/s (/language): Southwestern section of Map of invasion of Yugoslavia, Invasion of Yugoslavia, the April War, 1941. /english
 * Category/ies at commons: Invasion of Yugoslavia, Balkans Campaign (World War II), World War II in Yugoslavia in 1941, Battles of World War II in Yugoslavia, Maps of Yugoslavia during World War II, SVG maps of Yugoslavia
 * Name of the file: Map of invasion of Yugoslavia - Southeastern section map
 * Description (/language): The map shows southeastern section of Map of invasion of Yugoslavia. /english
 * Captions/s (/language): Southeastern section of Map of invasion of Yugoslavia, Invasion of Yugoslavia, the April War, 1941. /english
 * Category/ies at commons: Invasion of Yugoslavia, Balkans Campaign (World War II), World War II in Yugoslavia in 1941, Battles of World War II in Yugoslavia, Maps of Yugoslavia during World War II, SVG maps of Yugoslavia
 * Now you can find them here;
 * Commons:file:Map of invasion of Yugoslavia - Northwestern section map.svg
 * Commons:file:Map of invasion of Yugoslavia - Northeastern section map.svg
 * Commons:file:Map of invasion of Yugoslavia - Southwestern section map.svg
 * Commons:file:Map of invasion of Yugoslavia - Southeastern section map.svg
 * If you are happy with this please put the code  on this request so it can be archived, thanks. ✅ --Goran tek-en (talk) 16:05, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes and thank you for your effort and work. Kaštel Stari (talk) 17:37, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Correcting misleading color scheme for China COVID-19 map
Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 22:42, 26 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Article(s):
 * 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic (yes, it's transcluded to the big one)
 * 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic in Mainland China


 * Request:
 * Looking at this map at a glance, you'd think Hubei province was only slightly worse than its neighbors. But look at the legend, or at China on the world map — it's orders of magnitude worse. This could be solved with a (hopefully very simple) change to the color scheme, making Hubei straight black rather than just darker red, but the updater of the map either doesn't speak English or hasn't responded when I've brought this up. Can someone else fix this? &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 18:52, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

. I got frustrated enough that this had not been addressed that I learned Inkscape and did it myself. If I messed anything up too badly, please let me know. &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 10:18, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Discussion:

Animated maps
Hey graphix mates, are these possible do you know? I'm thinking File:HRR.gif-kind of thing? I started doing one myself, but, assuming that the method is having to create X-amount of similar but slightly tweaked versions of the same thing, and then gifying it, I think it's way beyond my competency levels. If anyone can advise, I'd greatly appreciate it. —— SN  54129  11:34, 15 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Interesting question! They should be possible, but how you do it would depend on the software you're using to create the maps in the first place. Manually making the frames and stitching them together would be time-consuming. If it were me I would try to generate the maps from a script using something that supports exporting animations, like R or Python. Or apparently there is an animation plugin for QGIS.
 * GIF is an ancient format to use though. APNG is better. Animated SVG would be ideal, since we generally want static maps to be SVG wherever possible, but it seems Mediawiki still doesn't support it.
 * Did you have something specific in mind? –&#8239;Joe (talk) 12:40, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes it took me (the complete unprofessional) about an hour to create the first screen, before realising I was out of my depth. A feeling, btw, that continues now as I didn't recognise most of what you ust mentioned there :)  What it's for would be a map that show's his itinerary throughout the pontificate, so the dotted redline should spread around the country and every now and then the year would change at the top. See what I mean?  ——  SN  54129  12:50, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

Quebec included in a map of Latin America.

 * Article(s):
 * Latin America


 * Request:
 * Map of Latin America including the Canadian province of Quebec highlighted in green. -- Mechanical Keyboarder (talk) 22:12, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

French is a Romance/Latin language and Quebec being predominantly French-speaking and a part of the Americas should be included in "Latin America".
 * Discussion:

Franz Joseph Land (Demme)

 * Thank you so much ! It's even better than I'd hoped and gives a good sense in relation to more known places of where she was exploring. SusunW (talk) 14:45, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Request Central Asia map

 * Article(s):
 * Central Asia


 * Request:
 * As a result of a Talk Page discussion, we have made a consensus to make a Central Asia map (svg cartography) for the broader Definition. (for the Central_Asia section). here is the talk page: Talk:Central_Asia. Dark green = common definition (core definition like the map shown), green = Afghanistan, light green = Xinjiang, Khorasan Province, whole Mongolia, and FATA region in Pakistan together with Chitral district, Dir district and Gilgit-Baltistan. In Russia: Altai Republic, Khakassia, Tuva, Bashkortostan and Orenburg Oblast. That is it-- Casperti (talk) 14:54, 25 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Discussion:

Soviet invasion of Estonia 1940 map

 * Article(s):
 * 13th Light Tank Brigade, 8th Army (Soviet Union), Soviet occupation of the Baltic states (1940)


 * Request:
 * A political map of Estonia and the western part of Leningrad Oblast and Pskov Oblast showing rivers, lakes, cities and islands overlaid with troop positions from this map. The source for the map is Meltyukhov, Mikhail (2014). Прибалтийский плацдарм (1939-1940 гг.). Возвращение Советского Союза на берега Балтийского моря. Moscow: Algoritm. ISBN 978-5-4438-0602-0, between pages 351 and 552. The file title is "Soviet invasion of Estonia, end of 17 June 1940." -- Kges1901 (talk) 20:07, 26 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Discussion: