Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Map workshop/Archive/Aug 2010

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Wikipedia friendly colors
Article(s): unemployment Request: Wikipedia friendly colors... Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 15:21, 12 June 2010 (UTC) Graphist opinion(s):

Byzantine maps
This map (the right one) is wrong. Basilicata (or Lucania) was a byzantine territory. See here. The left image is wrong because Liguria in 626 was still Byzantine (it fell to the Lombards only in 641): "“King Rothari [636-652] then captured all the cities of the Romans which were situated upon the shore of the sea from the city of Luna (Luni) in Tuscany up to the boundaries of the Franks. Also he captured and destroyed Opitergium (Oderzo) a city placed between Tarvisium (Treviso) and Forum Julii (Cividale). He waged war with the Romans of Ravenna [3] near the river of Emilia which is called the Scultenna (Panaro). In this war eight thousand fell on the side of the Romans and the remainder took to flight. [...]” (Paul the Deacon, IV, 45)"

Please, correct them.--79.23.31.7 (talk) 15:47, 21 June 2010 (UTC)Michele from Italy.
 * For corrections to existing maps I'd try contacting the original authors of the maps first, it would be easier for them to fix than to try and recreate their work - for the Italy map that is User:MapMaster, for the Byzantine one User:Justinian43. Kmusser (talk) 16:04, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Portuguese India
Article(s): Battle of Diu (1509) Request: Please vectorize it so that I can upload it to Commons. Pikolas (talk) 17:58, 23 June 2010 (UTC) Graphist opinion(s):

By vectorize I assume you mean convert to SVG, yes? You can upload it to the Commons as it is, it doesn't have to be in SVG format. The template used on the image page is misleading, see Template talk:Convert to SVG and copy to Wikimedia Commons. Pfly (talk) 09:39, 25 June 2010 (UTC) =Resolved=

Switzerland Linguistic Divisions
A question, however. I'm not sure I should be uploading entirely new filepages for something this trivial. Is this the appropriate way to upload a simple non-copyrightable English translation, for a German file that is used on both EN and DE wikipedias? Lesqual (talk) 23:39, 29 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you. As to your question, I'm not familiar with policy in this matter so I'll leave to someone more knowledgeable to answer.  City of Destruction  (The Celestial City)  00:18, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
 * The recommendation on commons is to save translated files as &lt;filename&gt;-code.&lt;ext&gt; (replace 'code' with the two-letter country code for the translation). For SVG files, there's an easy way to do this via SVGtranslate and/or a template (for an example, see file:Galvanic Cell.svg).  gringer (talk) 07:46, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Map border fix
Sometimes, it's easier to make a new one than to fix it. Here you go. Lesqual (talk) 02:32, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, but if you look at the counties, the borders of the counties are kinda messed up in the new one...the way they should look is the same as in the old one. Ks0stm (T•C•G) 17:26, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * While that wasn't intentional, for this article I question whether it's problematic. The borders aren't 'messed up', they're simply generalized to a greater degree than the other map.  This saves Wikipedia bandwidth and rendering time, and is good SOP when extra detail would be superfluous to comprehension.  Even if it does detract slightly for you, the fact that the source data I picked uses proper polygons for counties and linework for boundaries, rather than the messy automatic vectorization that the other image uses, makes it worthwhile for future editors because one can fix things like border width painlessly.  Lesqual (talk) 20:17, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I'd have to agree with Ks0stm on this one, the higher level of generalization on your map did some strange things, making counties that should have square borders no longer square. The original's vectorization is pretty good (compare with File:Kansas counties map.png). I'll grant that at the size used in the article it won't be very noticeable, but I also don't think it's an improvement over the original. Kmusser (talk) 21:00, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I think I've got the original fixed. Kmusser (talk) 14:28, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, that looks good on the original...Many thanks, Kmusser, and Lesqual, I do appreciate your attempt and give you my thanks as well. Marking resolved. Ks0stm (T•C•G) 00:13, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Please make map Wikipedia-friendly
How's this? Thylacine222 (talk) 21:51, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I altered it to where the unshaded counties represent the ones alerted, but the map is fine otherwise. Many thanks! Ks0stm (T•C•G) 00:24, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Black Mamba
How about this? The conventions here are a bit confusing, but here you go. It looks fine in Illustrator, but you might want to increase line weights or generalize out the national borders depending on how it looks rendered into low-res PNG thumbnails. Lesqual (talk) 19:57, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay, after 20 hours I guess the problem here is not just Wikipedia slowly caching things... for some reason this image won't render into a PNG. Any idea why? Lesqual (talk) 16:36, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Fixed, you had a link to an external file in there which caused a problem when it couldn't find it - I'm not sure what that file was, did you have a background image maybe? Anyway, I just took out the link. Kmusser (talk) 17:02, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, thanks for your help. Lesqual (talk) 17:20, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

You could try WP:LIBRARY to get access to the JSTOR article... if we can get that mirrored somewhere I'm sure someone here can modify a map for it. — raeky ( talk 20:15, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Given the disinterest (this appears to have been the focus of a school project which ended), I've placed it on the page myself and marked it ✅ & resolved. Lesqual (talk) 23:40, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Kingdom of Sardinia 1815
Article(s): Kingdom of Sardinia Request: This image is wrong, lacking of Nice and Savoy ( the correct map]. Can you arrange our little wikipedinian map?Jonny Bee Goo (talk) 23:16, 25 July 2010 (UTC) Graphist opinion(s):

✅ Updated to reflect source. Lesqual (talk) 07:02, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Baja California cities are shown out in the Pacific Ocean
Article(s): Tijuana; Ensenada, Baja California; Playas de Rosarito, Baja California Request: Something must be wrong with the Mexico pushpin map. Several of the coastal cities in Baja California Norte, Mexico, are shown too far north and too far west - the pushpin locates them in the ocean, offshore from San Diego. The coordinates provided in the articles appear to be correct, so the problem is most likely with the map. Thanks for taking a look at this and returning those cities to dry land! MelanieN (talk) 15:03, 13 August 2010 (UTC) Graphist opinion: ✅ that map was in the wrong projection to use with pushpin maps, should be fixed now. Kmusser (talk) 15:43, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, thanks for whatever you did, but it didn't solve the problem; all three cities are still offshore. --MelanieN (talk) 16:53, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
 * You may just need to clear your cache - they are showing correctly for me, you can tell if the pushpin template is using the correct map by looking at the U.S.-Mexico border near San Diego, on the old map the border was parallel to the top map edge, on the new map it has a slant to it. Kmusser (talk) 17:30, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, I see. Thanks for the fix! --MelanieN (talk) 00:49, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Beirut location map
Kmusser (talk) 14:08, 16 August 2010 (UTC) Article(s): Beit Beirut National Museum of Beirut Beirut Request: Hey guys, i need a location map for Beirut related articles; using the Lebanon location map does not yield the needed result at all, i found these reliable maps online, the first is by the beirut municipality, complete with district names and green spaces, yet the new marina area is shaded in grayish color although that is where the sea lies. the second is by the lebanese army, sadly it is embedded in flash and can only be viewed one portion at a time by scrolling municipal map LAF map Eli  +  12:03, 7 August 2010 (UTC) Graphist opinion(s):


 * Have you seen this one? --Shandristhe azylean 17:39, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Not that hard after all Eli  +  01:32, 14 August 2010 (UTC)