Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Map workshop/Archive/Sep 2013

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Request for edit showing claimed territories and actual territories in a map of Somaliland
Article(s): Somaliland Request:
 * Parts of Sool, Ayn, Somalia, Khatumo State and Maakhir is controlled by Puntland, an autonomous state in Somalia, and hence de facto not controlled by Somaliland. Somalia_map_states_regions_districts.png Can you please fix the map? Maybe there could be light red for claimed territories and dark red for controlled territories. Thanks! -- Reepy1 (talk) 09:23, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s): That article is about the region, as well as the self-declared republic, so I think it's appropriate that the infobox map shows the whole region that the article is talking about and the article already contains a map showing the boundary dispute. Should Republic of Somaliland get split out into its own article than I think it would need the map you describe. Kmusser (talk) 16:43, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Designated protection areas of Japanese serow
Article(s): Japanese serow Request:
 * I'd like to add a distribution map of designated protection areas for the Japanese serow to the Japanese Serow article. -- Curly Turkey (gobble) 06:39, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
 * page 272 of Wild Sheep and Goats and Their Relatives: Status Survey and Conservation Action Plan for Caprinae (1997; ed. David M. Shackleton) has such a map.

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Decolonization of Africa - Zimbabwe
Article(s): Decolonization of Africa Request:
 * This map shows Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe) gaining independence in 1965, but that was a declaration of independence that no-one recognized, it didn't officially become independent as Zimbabwe until 1980. The unrecognized declarations of independence of Biafra in 1967, Somaliland in 1991 and Azawad in 2012 aren't shown here, so Rhodesia shouldn't be either. Please change the map to show Zimbabwe turning purple in 1980 instead of 1965.

An alternative might be to mark unrecognized states in grey and purple stripes, which would apply to Rhodesia (1965-1979), Biafra (1967-1970), Sahrawi (1976-present), Somaliland (1991-present) and Azawad (2012-2013). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.50.194.126 (talk) 09:54, 25 June 2013 (UTC) Another thing to change - South Sudan independence (2011) 76.0.29.118 (talk) 16:46, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

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List of ongoing military conflicts
Article(s): List of ongoing military conflicts Request:
 * The map doesn't match with the first sections major conflicts and the dark colouring. (no Yemen)
 * Also Koreas in lorganige
 * Also need to make PNG grey (conflict is WEST Papua. And CAR/China/UK/Tajikistan/Bahrain need orange colouring
 * Nigeria needs dark colouring -- Lihaas (talk) 20:39, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

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Requesting a large location map, a section in the western hemisphere
An example of the image needed Request: Im looking to see if anyone would help me come up with a map just like shown above for an area covering Central America, the Caribbean, the Pacific Ocean and the Atlantic Ocean up to a certain extent...

here are the desired coordinates to cover...

from the equator to 40 degrees north from the 180 Dateline to 10 degrees west

I would like to have the image be as large as possible, wider than 5,000 px and longer than 2,000 px. All I need in the map are the country boundaries, Islands and lakes just like in the map above.

I'll greatly appreciate your help.


 * Check out the conversation at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Maps, there's a template that lets you use any section of the Earth as location map - it's a different background that what you're asking for, but depending on what you're trying to show it might be usable for your purpose. Kmusser (talk) 02:08, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Circuito da Boavista map
Article(s): Circuito da Boavista Request:
 * Can someone make a qualitative map of current configuration of Circuito da Boavista? The map which is currently used in article shows old configuration of the circuit. Current configuration:, . Note: on the 2nd image final chicane is not shown. -- Alex (talk) 16:47, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

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Noah
Article(s): Noah Request:
 * change colors to colorblind friendly... -- Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 10:27, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

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British Empire Map
Article(s): Territorial evolution of the British Empire Request:
 * The map showing the territorial evolution of the British Empire is historically incorrect. Singapore gained independence from the UK in 1963, yet this map seems to suggest that it didn't gain independence until someetime beetween 1974 and 2007, so would someone please fix that. Another thing, Brunei gained independence from the UK in 1984, but on this map, it looks like it gained independence sometime between 1959 and 1974, so that needs fixing as well. Then there's Malaysia, the part of it known as Malaya gained independence in 1957, the map got that right, but the rest of it the UK didn't let go of until 1963, as Sarawak and North Borneo, yet the red of the British Empire vanishes from those areas in the 1959 frame, when it should vanish in the 1974 frame, so please fix that too. Additionally, someone needs to fix the border of British Somaliland in the 1914, 1919, 1938, and 1945 frames, based on the map of British Somaliland. The border of Newfoundland is also incorrect in the frames at 1938 and 1945, so please fix that based on the map of the Dominion of Newfoundland. One final thing, add the border of South Sudan to this map. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.50.194.126 (talk • contribs) 12:43, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

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FIFA, Rugby and Cricket World Cups - South Sudan
Article(s): Every article these maps are already on. Request:
 * Draw in the border between Sudan and South Sudan on all these maps please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.50.194.126 (talk • contribs) 11:29, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

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Ilam Province Map
Article(s): Several articles related to Ilam province and its counties. Darreh Shahr, Ilam, etc. Request:
 * This map is going to show Ilam province of Iran with all counties. Something like the map for Alberta province ,File:Canada Alberta location map 2.svg. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Milad.olad (talk • contribs) 21:02, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

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Anabolic Steroids World Map
Article(s): Legality of anabolic steroids Request: I recently created an article about what countries steroids are legal and not legal in. Current sources should be listed there. But I think the page needs a map describing the legality of steroids in different countries. I just want something simple that can be added to and edited over time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cole132132 (talk • contribs) 13:39, 30 July 2013 (UTC) =Resolved=

Chinese "Four Barbarians" map
Article(s): Barbarian, Sinocentrism, Dongyi, Nanman, Xirong (people), Beidi, etc.

Request:
 * Several articles have an inaccurate Siyi 四夷 "Four Barbarians" map that WP editors have criticized. The most recent Talk:Xirong (people) discussion, in which I was involved, resulted in this request for an improved map showing China bordered by the Siyi. The ideal would be something similar with this "中華と四夷" map from a Japanese book and academic website. Both the above "Tianxia" and "Sinocentrism" files are complicated by unnecessary circles (reflecting another "five zone" worldview). If anyone is willing to create this map, I will be glad to help with the Chinese characters or anything else. -- Keahapana (talk) 23:34, 17 July 2013 (UTC)


 * In regards to those external links, the labels for Dongyi, Nanman, Xirong, Beidi should definitely be spread way more outward (as a clearer "directional" labels outside the Chinese heartland) and the later aggregate term Zhonghua (中華) should be replaced by Huaxia (華夏), placed ideally in the Yellow River basin near Wei River (basically approx. where Xi'an stands) if we must overlay it on a map. --Cold Season (talk) 10:27, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

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 * ✅ Please add comments here ► Philg88 ◄ star.png 17:36, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

Map of a planned new university campus
 File:ProposedSolplaatjeUniversity.svg|File:ProposedSolplaatjeUniversity.svg  Article(s): Sol Plaatje University Request:
 * Please create a map of the campus area of the planned new university in Kimberley, Northern Cape, South Africa. The source is the image on this page. Thanks -- Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 06:23, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

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 * Do you want the grey area included? ► Philg88 ◄ star.png 15:29, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm thinking it should be a basic city map with the area(s) concerned simply outlined and shaded - If you "cut out" the surrounding areas the map will lose its context - how would anyone then be able to tell what part of the city this is. Do you have access to a "base" street map of Kimberley? The traffic circles (roundabouts) and sports fields in the source image make it easy to match to an existing street map. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 16:53, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, but I can't identify the location from OpenStreetMap, which can serve as the base map. What is the name of the road running NW - SE with the two traffic circles? Thanks! ► Philg88 ◄ star.png 06:36, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
 * My mistake, sorry! Only the south-eastern circle currently exists - the north-western one doesn't yet.
 * The SE circle is the intersection of Dalham, Memorial and Oliver Roads.
 * The NW circle (will be) the intersection of Dalham Rd, Bultfontein Rd, Scanlan St, Bishops Ave, and Lyndhurst Rd. The street connecting them is thus Dalham Rd. The distinctive shape of the Civic Centre area (the northern part of the campus on the "source" image) is just north of the future NWern circle. Hope this explanation is adequate. Thanks Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 08:40, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

✅ - ► Philg88 ◄
 * Brilliant! Thanks Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 06:58, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Happy to have helped. Best, ► Philg88 ◄ star.png 15:07, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Bahrain burial mounds map
Article(s): Dilmun Burial Mounds Request:
 * I know this is a long shot but I plan on expanding the Dilmun article above and a map is definitely needed for the article. The source I have is an official government source, the map is located in page 17. Can anyone help me with this? -- Droodkin (talk) 20:56, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

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✅ ► Philg88 ◄ star.png 08:31, 31 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Thank you so much, it's perfect! --Droodkin (talk) 09:15, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome. I'm glad you're happy with th map. Best, ► Philg88 ◄ star.png 11:12, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Æthelstan - first king of England
Article(s): Æthelstan Request:
 * I am working on Æthelstan, the first king of England, who ruled between 924 and 939, and I think a map would be very helpful to making the article clear. I have revised the map in Sarah Foot's biography at to include more places mentioned in the article (those I could fit in) and delete some less important ones. My revised version is at . Thanks very much if anyone can help with this. (Note: I have provided a link to copies of the files but I do not think I can upload them to Commons as I think they are copyright in their present form. Please advise if this is not the best way to proceed.) Dudley Miles (talk) 13:22, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

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 * Many thanks. Dudley Miles (talk) 14:25, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Here is a first draft proposal. Please let me know your comments. I have followed your map. I have some doubts about the visibility when integrated in an article. The names of the towns are a bit small. May be more information may be added. --Ikonact (talk) 18:01, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I think that's magnificent, great work. I learnt a few things about text visibility at small sizes working on an overlay version of an image for the Sistine Chapel of all things. If you like, I can play with that in a derivative copy and see if I can do anything - not promising it will help or look encyclopedic, just willing to experiment. Begoon &thinsp; talk  18:21, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Many thanks. That's brilliant. Some points of detail:
 * First a couple of errors in my map, with apologies. I think I got the position of Deheubarth a bit wrong. It should be more in the south east corner of Wales. See . Also I think it might be better to leave out CUMBRIANS. They are not mentioned in the article and it is disputed whether they ever had a kingdom separate from Strathclyde.
 * There are typos spelling Sussex, Shaftesbury and Beverley.
 * Burnswark and Brinsworth (which you kept from Foot's map) could be deleted. They are fairly obscure and not mentioned in the article. Amounderness is also not mentioned. It might be worth adding it in the article, but if it is kept in the map, it should not be the same size font as the Welsh kingdoms - it is just an area which Æthelstan gave to the Archbishop of York.
 * It would be helpful to have Kingston in if it fits. It is where Æthelstan was crowned! Also Eamont (above Cumbrians), the site of an important meeting. Possibly also Northumbria, which is mentioned in the article, although it no longer existed as a kingdom by Æthelstan's time.
 * There are 9 places mentioned in the article which I could not fit in. I did not list them as I did not want to give the wikigraphist too much work, but as you have said more information might be added they are Frome, Cirencester, Lichfield, Grately, Faversham, Thunderfield (in Horley), Wells, Milton Abbas and Muchelney. However, they would probably make the map too crowded.
 * Not sure what to say to Begoon's kind offer - I think I had better leave it between the two of you to decide.

Many thanks again for the excellent map. I am going on holiday to Italy for a week on Monday so will be off wiki.Dudley Miles (talk) 20:00, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I certainly don't want to intrude, and Ikonact's map is superb, so I won't do anything unless anyone thinks it might help. There are just some "unobvious" things you can do with drop shadows etc... which seem tiny but make a big legibility difference in small type. It may not even help here, depending on the final map, but just offering support if needed, which it probably isn't. Ignore me. Begoon &thinsp; talk  20:18, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

OK, I have updated the map following Dudley Miles' recommendations. I have not added the 9 places as they really make the map too crowded but if you wish I can do it. I will be happy if Begoon can improve the legibility as it will be useful when the map is integrated in the article. You can try with a derivative copy and see what it gives. Thanks --Ikonact (talk) 21:03, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
 * That all looks fine, and ready to go into the article. If only I could do that sort of work! I will wait to see whether Begoon can improve legibility further before I use it. Thanks a million. Dudley Miles (talk) 21:59, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Your map is fantastic, Ikonact, and I hope you won't be upset if I can't improve by tinkering (I'm just a tinkerer by nature), but I'll have a play anyway in the next day or so - possibly it won't help - we'll see. Thanks for helping out here - we really do need the help from skilled editors like you. . Don't wait for me, Dudley, if it can be improved (which is only a maybe) it won't matter if it's already included in the article, and it should be right away. Begoon &thinsp; talk  22:12, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I had a play, but aside from just bolding or increasing font size, I couldn't really do anything. Drop shadows just look naff and blurry, and my idea of white type outlined with black didn't look good or help either. At the end of the day it's just going to be small, I guess. Sorry. The file gives some rendering errors (blue horizontal lines etc) when I play with it in Inkscape, and Illustrator won't load it without losing the clipping mask, which didn't help - but I doubt my ideas were much use. I thought I might be able to make a difference, but sadly nothing I was happy with. Apologies for suggesting I could help when I evidently can't... Begoon &thinsp; talk  06:39, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

A side comment, which makes me uneasy with all early maps of Britain: The modern coastline is shown. However, the coastline at the time was noticeably different in places - notably the Isle of Thanet. Getting that sorted is a much more complex exercise, not really needed for this request, but working something out would be good.--Nilfanion (talk) 23:26, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree and if I have any reliable geographical data for this period I could try to improve my map. I cannot rely only on text descriptions. The only map I ever saw is this one. Do you have any source about the coastline in the past? Thank you. --Ikonact (talk) 13:51, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

I have now added the map to the article. Many thanks again. Dudley Miles (talk) 16:53, 1 September 2013 (UTC) @Ikonact There's an old UK coastline map here (edit) ... and a better one. I am currently working on a layered SVG map of Roman Britain (400 AD) that may be of use to you for the coastline when it's finished. Best, ► Philg88 ◄ star.png 18:55, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I have added the old coastline using this file. I think now this should be OK. May be I have to add a legend to explain what the different colours mean. Thank you --Ikonact (talk) 21:05, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
 * It's sometimes better to do the legends in the article, like the one in the infobox at Ostrich, under the "range map", just for legibility when the image is scaled. If I do that I also put the same wikicode on the image description page. Begoon &thinsp; talk  12:59, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Old Town and New Town of Edinburgh
Article(s): List of Category A listed buildings in the Old Town, Edinburgh, List of Category A listed buildings in the New Town, Edinburgh Request:
 * A map is required to show the boundaries of the Old Town and New Town of Edinburgh. These boundaries are defined by conservation area boundaries, whcih can be downloaded from the Historic Scotland data website. Ideally the boundaries of the two conservation areas would be shown on one of the above base maps (I prefer the first - the second may be closer in but too detailed?), to illustrate the position and extent of the Old Town and New Town within the city. Thanks, Jonathan Oldenbuck (talk) 12:37, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):
 * I think the best way to do this is to import the Historic Scotland data into OpenStreetMap (OSM) (non-trivial but doable) then create a new SVG and update the Commons map with the new boundary highlighted. This will take a few days so please bear with me. ► Philg88 ◄ star.png 07:15, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I was just playing with this, and QGIS is what I was going to use, working with a download of the OSM file for Scotland from geofabrik.de, because it won't let me import Edinburgh in-toto with the OpenStreetMap plugin - too many nodes. I'll probably carry on doing it just for fun, but since I've never exported svg files with OSM data from QGIS - first time playing with it, don't know what I'll get. Begoon &thinsp; talk  07:52, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, I get garbage . I'll have to install PostGIS and other stuff and do a bit of learning - so it'll take me all of your few days, but I'll treat it as an exercise. Labelling objects and styles is going to be the key - but it will take me a while. Philg88, I'm sure you'll get something better and quicker - but I'll persevere anyway just as a learning thing. . Begoon &thinsp; talk  09:50, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks you both for your offers of help! Jonathan Oldenbuck (talk) 14:45, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

 File:Edinburgh Old Town Boundaries with New Town.svg|New map  ✅

Is it possible to re-create the map with English names rather than French names?
This map was inserted into an article, but it was deleted since it is a French language map. (the Diff page ). It it was re-inserted but it would be better to have it translated to English. Thanks. Ykantor (talk) 14:43, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment
 * Will be recreated as an SVG with an English and French version.
 * Will be recreated as an SVG with an English and French version.

✅ (Chinese version sneaked in :) )  Israel and Palestine 1st June 1948-EN.svg|English version Israel and Palestine 1st June 1948-FR.svg|Version française Israel and Palestine 1st June 1948-ZH.svg|中文版本 


 * Thank you user:Philg88. Your map is much better than the previous map. Ykantor (talk) 08:55, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you user:Philg88. Your map is much better than the previous map. Ykantor (talk) 08:55, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

Choropleth map
Article(s): Choropleth map Request:
 * There's a meaningless sentence fragment in Choropleth map, described at Talk:Choropleth map. Will someone who knows about this topic please fix it? --Thnidu (talk) 16:41, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

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 * ❌ Sorry, but this is a page for map requests not article edits/corrections. Best, ► Philg88 ◄ star.png 08:39, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

Hittite Map
Article(s): Multiple related to Hittites Request:
 * Can anyone re-do this map, so it can be added to Commons? Cavann (talk) 20:20, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

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Here is a first draft. Could you please check it? --Ikonact (talk) 19:01, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Awesome Background done with your script, semantic layers done in Inkscape right ? :) Yug  (talk)  10:03, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
 * This time it was easier :) Background done with Sémhur's map. I have removed the relief and cropped a little bit. Semantic layers is done in Inkscape ;) I could have used my script for the geographical data, but this was not necessary as a map exists already.--Ikonact (talk) 12:19, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Looking great Ikonact! Cavann (talk) 19:53, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅ Thank you. Happy to have helped. --Ikonact (talk) 05:26, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Sacred City of Anuradhapura
<span style="color:#646464; font-weight:bold; font-size:11px; border:2px solid #FFCC33;background-color:#cde0fc; padding: 2px 10px;">► Philg88 ◄ star.png 16:18, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Great! Thank you very much :-) I will put in the article right now. -- Cherubino (talk) 20:52, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Manama map, 1926?
Article(s): Manama and other related articles (neighborhoods). Request:
 * I'm working on boosting the Manama page to GA and hopefully FA status, and a map of the old neighbourhoods of the city is definitely necessary in the history and urbanism parts of the article. My source is a renown historian who conveniently has a map of Manama in 1926 (pages 74-75 as a single map), which should provide something to work on. Whether it should be an SVG or PNG file, I don't know but any map would be really swell.-- Droodkin (talk) 21:43, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

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✅ <span style="color:#646464; font-weight:bold; font-size:11px; border:2px solid #FFCC33;background-color:#cde0fc; padding: 2px 10px;">► Philg88 ◄ star.png 09:06, 15 September 2013 (UTC)