Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2007 April 20

= April 20 =

Referencing Question
I'm using inline citations on an article, and they're all coming from the same book (there's really no helping that, and it's not my question anyway). So I wondered, should I use the same reference (i.e., they'd all read [1] as a reference) and have the a, b, c, d, etc., etc., links, or reference them individually, so they appear as [1], [2], and so on. I think referencing them individually is best because that way I can do individual pages numbers and it cuts down on what will become like 50 a, b, c, d, footnotes, but I wonder if there's a policy toward it.  Dooms Day349  00:44, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * It depends. If you are using the book more than 2 or 3 times and a separate page each time, I would cite each one separately. 2 reasons: 1. If you do them all as one and cite different pages, you will have to go back to the original citation every time you need to add another page. 2. If you cite the same book 12 times, with a different page number each time, it will be hard to tell which page goes to which cite and the citation itself will be hard to read. Mr.Z-man  talk ¢ 01:28, 20 April 2007 (UTC)


 * In that last instance you should probably use footnotes in addition to references. - Mgm|(talk) 07:57, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Chicago Bot
Is there a way to request that a bot be designed to tag all articles in a set of categories be tagged with ChicagoWikiProject template once I come up with a list of categories? TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 02:07, 20 April 2007 (UTC)


 * See: WP:BOTREQ. --Teratornis 02:54, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Uncited text box not appearing in article after template has been inserted.
I believe I used the template correctly, per Template:Uncited-article. But it is not appearing after I included it in Twelve traditions. I have refreshed and still no luck. What did I do wrong? -- Craigtalbert 02:26, 20 April 2007 (UTC)


 * By "refresh" do you mean "purge"? "Refresh" usually means to clear your browser's cache; "purge" means to tell Wikipedia's servers to rebuild a page from all its components, which is probably what you need to do. See: WP:PURGE. --Teratornis 02:57, 20 April 2007 (UTC)


 * The template does not display on any page I checked. It probably has an error but I don't know template code. By the way, the template is actually intended for articles which mentions references but does not say which information is referenced where. Template:Unreferenced seems more suitable for Twelve traditions (and it works!). PrimeHunter 14:19, 20 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I will purge and use the other template. Thank you! -- 67.161.144.221 14:56, 20 April 2007 (UTC)


 * You're welcome. I fixed the error in Template:Uncited-article (my first template edit). It said <\noinclude> instead of . PrimeHunter 21:00, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Viewing of satellite map of the world in my pc
Pl help me to see the satellite picture of the world, where I can locate even my house.

I used them quite a few times, but forgot how to invoke the site.


 * Quite a few of those sites, Google maps being the best online version. Google Earth is probably best overall. Technically this question should have gone on the Reference Desk, this page is for asking about Wikipedia. Prodego  talk  03:22, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Web GUI interface for user contributions
It seems the UI for the user contributions page has been changed. Where can I track the progress of what is going on with this. Where is this discussed? dr.ef.tymac 04:24, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

whats going on behind the scenes with capitalization here?
What's going on here with Pgrep? When I look at the article in a browser, the title of the article appears in all lower-case. When I cut and paste text from the article into a text editor, the first letter is upper-case, and the standard technical disclaimer message is included: "The initial letter is shown capitalized due to technical restrictions." What is happening to make the disclaimer not show up, and the letter case to be lower-case in one place, but not the other? CSS? dr.ef.tymac 05:20, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * JS actually. It has to do with the aforementioned "technical restrictions" and lowercase. Prodego  talk  05:32, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Technical Help: Can u help edit the infobox
As I didnt like the infoboxes templates already existing I tried making one on my own on the page of the school article I was writing ie Gokuldham High School! '''But I can't set the right margin. Its way too wide. Can anybody reduce it?''' --59.182.44.79 06:26, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Done! --59.182.35.194 07:49, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

A REAL featured article from a FAKE
How do i come to know whether an article is a just another article with the following template: featured

or a REAL FA which is passed by a group of experts? --59.182.86.39 06:55, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * See WP:FA. Generally established users place the FA tag on the article (generally the ones who vote on it, or close the discussion).  Real96  06:58, 20 April 2007 (UTC)


 * "identified" should link to the discussion that got it featured. If the link is red, there's a good chance the addition was bogus. Also, all featured articles are listed at WP:FA (I expect by Raul654, but at the very least by an established user). - Mgm|(talk) 07:55, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry to edit the original question, but I turned the featured tag into a mere template link instead of an actual template transclusion, because transcluding the template here was putting the Help desk into Category:Featured articles (improperly, I am sure). While I do think the Help desk in its own way represents some of the finest work on Wikipedia, it does not meet the featured article criteria, of course. --Teratornis 20:31, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

how the currency values differ form other country
i want clear idea about currency difference and stock exchange
 * Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. - Mgm|(talk) 08:02, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Photo problems
i am trying to insert a photo (for public domain) of uploaded file: rock_obs_k4 to article: Rocket Astrophysical Observatories K-2, K-3 and K-4

please help.

Alexander Kashin —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kashin (talk • contribs)
 * Where are you stuck? I see you have uploaded a file Image:Rocket obs k4.jpg Notinasnaid 08:33, 20 April 2007 (UTC)


 * WP:EIS explains how to add an image to an article. PeaceNT 08:28, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

your editors took off all my pics and cut the article
why are you editors taking our pic off the article this article is on sufi meditation called muraqabah and we are the owners of the book sufi healing and the website nurmuhammad.com and editor is talking about "spamming" and copyright issues. im afraid they may have negative issues with islam or sufism making them to unfairly edit or vandalise our article on muraqabah please help nurmir@att.net —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nurmir (talk • contribs)
 * Have you tried contacting the editors that are removing the material? Dismas |(talk) 08:50, 20 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm can't be sure about the spamming bit without looking at it in more detail, but the copyright thing can be explained. You may know you own the copyright to the contents of the book yourself, but without proving this to the Wikimedia Foundation, the editor can't see the difference between you and a person violating your copyright. Please send an email to permissions AT wikimedia DOT org from an email address that can be recognized as yours so we can confirm you're the copyright owner. - 131.211.210.12 08:59, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Please help with template problem
I've just created my first template:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Pickup_Truck_driver

But I'm having problems with one of the items; Finished last season. It won't display the entry e.g. in this page

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Wilkinson

it just shows the placeholder text.

There must be something wrong with either the template or the entry for Pete Wilkinson, but I'm not sure which. Can anyone help?
 * See my fix. The variable you used in the article and the one in the template weren't the same. - Mgm|(talk) 10:12, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for that. I just need a second pair of eyes there ;)

Adding material
I have made attempts to edit the word SNIGGLE with a meaning that my family has adopted.

A SNIGGLE is the calming deep sound of one falling asleep in the arms of the one you love because you are safe warm and protected

How do I get this acceptedMovinbuddy 11:50, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * You don't. It wasn't accepted for a variety of reasons.
 * 1) Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and not a dictionary.
 * 2) Wikipedia is not for things you and a small group of friends or family members adopt.
 * 3) Wikipedia is not to promote things that aren't known already.
 * 4) Wikipedia is not the place to promote original ideas.

Try UrbanDictionary instead or start your own website. - Mgm|(talk) 12:10, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Percentage of featured articles
What percentage of Wikipedia articles have FA status? Should I just divide 2,000 by [count of articles] or what? --Uncle Ed 12:24, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * The magic word NUMBEROFARTICLES (currently ) will give the count of articles according to the article-counting criteria; you'll have to subtract 1 for the Main Page, and disambiguation pages are also currently included in the count, because there's no cheap-on-the-servers way to exclude them at the moment. Featured articles gives the number of featured articles (1342 as of this timestamp), and an estimate of what proportion of articles are featured; however, finding the true proportion could be difficult, because of the need to exclude disambiguation pages and lists (which have their own featuring process). Hope that helps! --ais523 12:30, 20 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Or to put it another way, 0.077% – Gurch 12:31, 20 April 2007 (UTC)


 * For more on this, see WP:WIF, WP:WINF, and the pages they link to. --Teratornis 14:38, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

PLEASE
TO WHOM IT CONCERN

I NEED TRS ADDRESS, AND PHONE NUMBER-- E MAIL PLEASE E MAIL IT TO ME THANKS

BUCHI REDDY


 * TRS can stand for several different things; that's why it has a disambiguation page. The TRS disambiguation page on Wikipedia may or may not list the particular "TRS" you have in mind. Before someone can give you contact information for "TRS", you have to specify which "TRS" you mean. Once you determine the full name of your "TRS", you might find its contact information by looking up its article here; if that fails, you can try your favorite search engine. For example, if by "TRS" you mean Trunked Radio Systems (I'm not at all suggesting you do), then it has an article here, and you could also search the Web for it with Trunked Radio Systems. ("Trunked Radio Systems" is probably not what you mean, because that is a generic name rather than the name of an entity which would have contact information.) When questions appear on the Help desk, we answer them on the Help desk, rather than send e-mail, the main reason being that we want the answers to appear here so other volunteers can see which questions have already been answered, and so other users with the same questions can see the answers too. Plus, at the moment I don't see an e-mail address in your question. Finally, since your question is not really suitable for the Help desk, here's the standard RD1 template text for you: Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. --Teratornis 14:53, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

removing a AfD tag
I have tagged an article for deletion and I want to take back my action. Proper ettiquette requires that I discuss this matter with the source first. How do I remove the tag? I see instructions on reverting, but don't know if that is the right process.Vancouverlaw 13:09, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * If no one had commeneted in the AfD, you could withdraw the nomination Articles_for_deletion/Herbert_Brownstein here. With one weak delete already, it may be too late to retract it - generally once an AfD had delete votes, it can't be withdrawn. WilyD 13:17, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * You have set a process going. Removing the tag will not stop it. If you feel this was a mistake or have new information, you need to add this to the AfD discussion which you initiated. Don't delete anything you already added, but you may strike through comments of your own if you intend to retract them in a later comment. Notinasnaid 13:18, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

My article "Globe7" is deleted
hi,

First time i tried t post an article on my favourite VOIP "GLBOE&" since there is no article on this upto now, even where akype had it's own, i dont why my article is deleted, If ur answer is that i am posting for its advertising then my question is why skype and other VOIP products articles are allowed? Public should about the new developments and new features where here we are unable to give the detailes i need ur help in it and ur answer for my above quiries
 * The article was not just advertising, but blatant advertising. Phrases such as "Great Reasons to Download Globe7" and "We nurtured the thought fondly and today we are able to present it to you proudly." have absolutely zero business in any sort of encyclopedia. The article Skype, on the other hand, does not constitute blatant advertising. Basically, the Globe7 article read like something you might find in a magazine to advertise it, rather than a neutral encyclopedia article. Veinor (talk to me) 13:32, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Linkage missing data
Under "miracles of Jesus" there is a linkage to "Nain" city but there is no article on this city. Roland
 * This is normal - it's how Wikipedia grew from nothing at all to over a million articles. The work isn't done, so if you can create that missing article, please go ahead! Notinasnaid 14:06, 20 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Actually, Nain is a disambiguation page which is linked from Miracles attributed to Jesus, but doesn't include the Nain referred to there. This does seem a little unfortunate. PrimeHunter 20:14, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Creating a page
How can you create a page? Shapiros10 14:17, 20 April 2007 (UTC)


 * See Your first article and Help:Starting a new page. PeaceNT 14:30, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Spelling mistake in the article on Muley Abul Hassan.
In the article on king "Muley Abul Hassan", his name is spelled in Arabic as مولي أبو الحسن while it should be spelled as مولاي أبو الحسن.

مولاي was a title, literally meaning: my master, while مولي has no meaning in Arabic.

I've tried to correct this myself, but that part of the article was 'un-editable' for some reason. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Whistleblower1881 (talk • contribs)


 * Why? The edit tab works fine for me. Hmm, please follow this link to edit the article. PeaceNT 14:29, 20 April 2007 (UTC)


 * The "edit this page" tab on top of the article edits the whole article. The edit links to the right side only edit one section. The article lead has no edit link to the right. PrimeHunter 20:08, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

What is the proper way to cite a film as a source in wikipedia?
I know there's the cite book, and cite journal template. But I can't find a cite film template. -- 67.161.144.221 14:46, 20 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Try using cite video. For a complete listing of all citation templates, see WP:CITET. Hersfold (talk/work) 16:36, 20 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you! -- Craigtalbert 19:32, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

How do I get a photo and short bio link to my name and samples of my work shown?
Under the art category, PINUP ARTISTS, I have entered my name, however, on clicking on it nothing happens. How do I get a photo, sample bio link when clicking on my name. I am a nationally published illustrator-portrait artist and have created pin up art for the R. J. Reynolds Tobacco Company's Camel Cigarette ads and packages. I need help in manipulating this site correctly.

Dick Bobnick www.dickbobnick.com


 * You should post a request to have this article created at Requested_articles, maybe more specifically under Requested_articles/Culture_and_fine_arts. You shouldn't create the article yourself, though. Conflict_of_interest explains why not. Sancho 15:38, 20 April 2007 (UTC)


 * You could also ask people at a relevant WikiProject for help. - Mgm|(talk) 12:24, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

How do I change spelling in an article originally written by myself?
I have written an article, added some more information, but have only just realised that the article name contains a grammatical error. How do I change this, without deleting the current article and creating a new article? Thanks. Tinminer 15:31, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Users (such as yourself) whose account is at least 4 days old can rename an article by clicking on the 'move' tab at the top of the screen (to the right of 'history' and 'edit this page'). Hope that helps! --ais523 15:32, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * See WP:MOVE. --Teratornis 20:17, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Help me please to find archived data
I checked a page and some information that I was looking for has been removed. Can this still be accessed through an archive?

The information I want is the major competitors for doubleclick (the online advertiser). Can someone help me with this?

Thanks!

Matt

67.141.101.94 15:36, 20 April 2007 (UTC)


 * All articles on Wikipedia have a history of past revisions that can be viewed by clicking on the "history" tab at the top of each page. Go to that page, then find the time closest to when you last viewed the article. Click on that time stamp, and you should be able to view the page as you saw it before.
 * Be careful that this information may have been removed for a reason, as being spam, non-neutral, or unverifiable. Hersfold (talk/work) 16:40, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

I'll check it out. I'm just looking for leads for companies in this industry for job hunting so I'm sure they'll work fine. Thanks for your help!! 71.29.65.153 17:19, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Template Problems
I'm trying to add the standard template to this motor racing track. Because it has two (main) configurations, it has two distances, lap records etc. so the template doesn't fit, with the results you can see on the page:

Rockingham Motor Speedway

Any suggestions on how this can be resolved, without wrecking the template for other tracks?

Violentbob 16:22, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * See WP:MOTOR for motorsport template info. What exactly is the problem that you are experiencing? Adrian   M. H.  18:04, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

dr alfonso olivares
hello:im thinking of having a reverse vasectomy in mexico,there a dr alfonso olivares who say on his website he does this operation,he said on his webste that he graduated of the UNAM,also accredited by the mexico national councel of urology,do you know if this is true?im concern about fraud,and want to make sure he real.thank you...........brian

article deletion
how do you find out why an article you had written was deleted. i had spent days researching and a week or so writing an article that just disappeared. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Devilmaycry636 (talk • contribs).
 * Go to, add the name of the page to the end of the URL, after the 'page=', and then see what the deletion reason is. If you don't understand it (some admins use shorthand), ask the admin who deleted it on their talk page. Veinor (talk to me) 17:33, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict) Go to the deletion log, and enter the article's name under 'title'. That should let you know why it was deleted and which administrator deleted it. See also Why was my article deleted? --ais523 17:34, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Citing the same source multiple times in the same paragraph
If I have a paragraph consisting of three consecutive sentences backed by the same source, should I put the reference at the end of every sentence? This seems like a good idea, since further editing could lead to the addition of facts not supported by my source but which may appear to be, if the source is cited only on the first or last sentence. -Seans Potato Business 17:42, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I do this when I'm editing (for the reason you express), though sometimes other editors remove it afterwards because they say it looks messy. It doesn't seem to me like there's a clear consensus on the issue.  If you only include a citation at the end of the paragraph, you could keep the article on your watchlist, and if anyone adds anything unsourced in the middle, tag it with  (and add individual sentence cites to your material). Calliopejen1 17:51, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Not necessarily every sentence; just key statements that could be questioned without a source. You don't say whether you use a "ref name" class to repeat the refs easily, but that's the best method. Adrian   M. H.  18:00, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Since people have different ideas about how many reference links they want to see, perhaps someday that will be customizable in user preferences. --Teratornis 20:15, 20 April 2007 (UTC)


 * From my talk page: "That should be fine, with some exceptions. I also usually bundle multiple sources together into one footnote at the end of a paragraph. The exceptions are when citing a direct quote, or when a statement is particularly startling or contrary to "common knowledge" (i.e., likely to be questioned), which should be cited immediately after the quote or statement. -- Donald Albury 12:41, 20 December 2010 (UTC)"
 * -Verapar (talk) 00:37, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Scripts/Tea time
Will this work if I put it in my monobook.js page? I wouldn't mind having proper grammar when I edit.  Razorclaw ⊚ 20070420195404

The missing link
On the Ad astra page, an ISBN number is linked, but I don't see any square brackets. How is it doing that? Clarityfiend 19:57, 20 April 2007 (UTC)


 * The Mediawiki software has a special function. When it sees "ISBN" followed by a number of the proper form, it creates a special link to a page where a book may be searched for based on its ISBN. DES (talk) 20:00, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * ISBN numbers that are properly formatted get autolinked. - M  ask?  20:00, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

rfa help
i requested for administrative rights but they dont show up on the page itself. am i doing something wrong, or does it take a few days to process? The juggsd86 19:59, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * You have to edit this page and place


 * at the top of the list of other transduced nomination pages. Scottydude talk 20:21, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * This is of course if you have created this page: Requests for adminship/juggsd86 the way you should have per the instructions here Scottydude talk 20:24, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * 'the_' was part of the user name, however the capitalization is probably wrong also - Requests_for_adminship/the_juggsd86 Shenme 20:33, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Hijacked page?
There's something wrong with the Suzanne Sommers page. When you click on it, or to try to edit it, it sends you to another site. Clarityfiend 20:50, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * That was actually pretty clever; very large, invisible text. The same happens if you click anywhere. I managed to revert; in the future, I think we can block on sight. Veinor (talk to me) 20:53, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

favorite places/ bookmark?
is there a way for regular users (with accounts) to bookmark pages into a favorite places folder for future reference? thank you!Angliscoe 21:23, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * There is a watch list feature where you can add pages to watch for any changes. It can be used like a bookmark. You can also bookmark specific pages using your Internet browser. -- Hdt83 Chat 22:45, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * See also Help:Watching pages. PeaceNT 08:17, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
 * And see Tip of the day/January 28 - Your very own Wikipedia bookmark page. --Teratornis 11:30, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

AGENTS FOR BOOK AUTHORS
NAMES/EMAILS ADDRESSES FOR BOOK AUTHORS -- PLEASE, A LIST OF THEM AND THEIR TYPE OF PUBLICATION THEY REPRESENT. FICTION, ADVENTURE AND FAMILY. THANK YOU.
 * That isn't really the sort of thing Wikipedia does, sorry. It doesn't contain articles which are business directories. It certainly never lists emails. Notinasnaid 21:31, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Deleted because of "blatant advertising"
My article "The PowerMark Group (PowerMark)" was deleted due to "blatant advertising." I modeled my article after existing articles about companies. What components does an article need to have (or not have) in order to not be labeled blatant advertising? My article was purely factual (and had references to all the facts) and neutral. What else can I do?

PowerMarkGroup 22:01, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Even if something is factual, it doesn't mean that the subject is notable. Please have a look at Notability to get more information. Bjelleklang -  talk  Bug Me  22:04, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Also, it is best not to write articles about companies you work for. Please read our Conflict of interest guidelines. Wikipedia is committed to being fair and neutral but that does not include any committment to include entries on any person or organisation. The idea is: if your company is notable enough, someone else would write about it, based on the level of popular knowledge and press coverage there is. You would be welcome to point out errors on the talk page. Notinasnaid 08:11, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Reporting a user that put offfensive stuff on Sandbox
I'd like to report User:PADutchman typing offensive and libel stuff on Sandbox, Thank you.Trampton 22:43, 20 April 2007 (UTC).
 * I think "saying stupid things" is slightly more accurate (see ). I've welcomed him and I'll try to keep an eye on him to see if he will start causing more problems.  It will be a BLP problem if he starts making statements that are not quite so outlandish (Person A committed crime B at time C which is false, for example).  But I would like another person's thoughts on this either way.   x42bn6  Talk 23:21, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

New Porsche Template Help
Hey there, I am working on the new Porshce Template and looking to include all the stray Porsche articles into one nice big chronological template, but I am not sure how to search for the word "Porsche" in wikipedia to get all the Porsche related pages to come up without just getting the standard Porsche Page. Basically, I want to know a way of acessing all the pages that have "Porsche" in their title. Many thanks.Ultimatum 23:13, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Probably the easiest thing is just to look in Category:Porsche. Calliopejen1 23:15, 20 April 2007 (UTC)


 * To find all articles containing "Porsche" (including in body), type Porsche in the search box and click "Search" instead of "Go". PrimeHunter 13:06, 21 April 2007 (UTC)