Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2007 January 13

= January 13 =

Image Uploading
I've never uploaded an image before, and I want to upload this for an article I've written. Can someone tell me what licenses I'd have to put on it? It's located here. Thank you.  Dooms Day349  03:02, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Is anyone there? Has anyone been monitering the page for the last couple of hours?  There's been no response... Dooms  Day349  03:54, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Your comment was posted less than an hour ago. Be patient! A lot of Europeans are in bed by now, and Americans are either going to bed or just off work and having dinner.
 * For the technical details on how to upload an image, see Help:Image. As for the licenses, it has to be freely available, but I don't have a link handy. I'll keep looking. -- Kesh 04:01, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Heh, sorry. Has it only been that long?  I guess I'm used to faster replies.  That's what you get for spoiling me! :)  I was creating a really boring article in the meantime, endless bibliographing, if it's any excuse.  I know how to upload it, but I'm unsure of what to tag it.  The subject in question (Nancy Varian Berberick) owns the picture, but I'm not quite sure on the tag.  Dooms  Day349  04:04, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
 * No problem. Here's an article on Wikimedia Commons, which is where most folks upload their images. Keep in mind that any image uploaded to Commons or Wikipedia itself needs to be either released under a free license (examples given in the article) or have explicit fair-use rationale given. It's always safest to use images released under a free license, so simple permission from the copyright holder won't work. Unless they're willing to release the image with one of the free copyright licenses, you're best off finding another image or creating one of your own. -- Kesh 04:09, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
 * So where does this creative commons thing come into play? I noticed some other authors in the same genre are under that tag.  God, images are very confusing.  Dooms  Day349  04:12, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Creative Commons licenses are some of the free licenses available. Basically, pictures, movies, etc. released under CC are freely available for other people to use. There may be a few restrictions, but Wikipedia wants everything to be as free as possible. -- Kesh 04:32, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Note that the various versions of cc-by and cc-by-sa are the only creative commons licenses considered free enough for upload to Wikipedia without a Fair Use rationale. GeeJo (t)⁄(c) &bull; 06:45, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

I've contacted the author and am awaiting response.  Dooms Day349  04:36, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Linsang
Is there anyway of requesting a picture for a page and if so how? TeePee-20.7 03:46, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Best thing to do is to post the request on the article's Talk page. The trouble is going to be finding a freely available one. -- Kesh 03:58, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
 * What do you mean by finding a freely available one? —Preceding unsigned comment added by TeePee-20.7 (talk • contribs) 23:18, January 12, 2007
 * Basically, the image has to be Public domain or licensed for free use, using things like GNU Free Documentation License, Creative Commons, etc. Basically, whoever created the image has to release it as freely available for anyone else to use. And most stuff on the Internet is not. See Wikimedia Commons for more info. -- Kesh 04:29, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
 * So what your saying is if someone does find an image of a site they have to ask the owner of the site or whoever posted for permission to use it?, like they can't copy and paste. --TeePee-20.7 04:42, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, basically, see Image use policy. To request a picture take a look at this template and its talk page. -- zzuuzz (talk) 04:47, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I've been looking for those in all the wrong places. Your link-fu is strong. -- Kesh 04:50, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Quote: "like they can't copy and paste". I hope you don't actually do that. You're talking about other people's I.P. and in most countries, the law provides for the owners of such material to sue you for misuse. As a website designer, that sort of behaviour really annoys me. It's basically theft. As for Wikipedia; if you upload copyrighted material, Wikipedia becomes jointly liable, and it does not have a pot of money for making settlements. Adrian M. H. 12:41, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia largest website?
Is Wikipedia the largest website (by virtue of real disk space size and/or number of pages) on the Web? DragonRouge 08:02, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Since there are sites which use a copy of Wikipedia, and add more stuff from other places, it doesn't seem that this can be possible. In terms of disk space used, I suspect Google may take some beating. Notinasnaid 08:39, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

can this link be translated from italian to english?
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27Aura

ty in advance

benni @ (email removed)) -- 08:54, 13 January 2007 (UTC)76.175.253.226
 * What you might want to do is bring a copy over to Wikipedia as-is and apply the Template:Notenglish template. That will add it to Category:Wikipedia articles needing translation, which will hopefully attract enough attention to get someone working on it. Note that if no one does so within two weeks, the article can be deleted, but it's at least a place to start if you don't speak Italian yourself.
 * If you do speak some Italian, be bold! Even if your translation is spotty at best, it will at least get the article started on here. You can then put Template:RoughTranslation on there, and see if someone can help fix it. -- Kesh 23:20, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

conspiracy theories in an article 2nd attempt
I wrote: Someone is using Wiki to put forth his or her conspiracy theories in the article about the federal reserve system of the USA. The person is linking his own biased documents etc. How can I report this / can somebody do something about it?

Answer was:  If you are certain that the subject is being put across in a misleading away, be bold and edit the article. If you think that might be controversial, post on the talk page first and have a discussion. Or you could post on the user in question's talk page, explaining why you think their documents are biased and should not be used as sources. Trebor 23:07, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

My answer: I did edit the article but the person always changes it back. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.218.153.176 (talk • contribs).


 * Please see Resolving disputes. The issue has been brought up on the talk page of the article, see Talk:Federal Reserve System.  Discuss it there with other editors and if resolution cannot be obtained follow the steps described on the resolving disputes page.  -- Rick Block (talk) 18:04, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Moving a Talkpage only
Is it possible to move a talkpage without moving it's corresponding article page? The talkpage at Talk:Linksys iPhone is from when the article was at iPhone and mostly discusses the Apple iPhone. This is because the iPhone article was about the Apple iPhone and then was edited to be about the Linksys one. The previous iPhone article (Linksys ver) has been moved to Linksys iPhone, taking the talk with it. I would like to move the page Talk:Linksys iPhone to Talk:iPhone/Archive but without moving the article. JP Godfrey (Talk to me) 12:20, 13 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I would suggest explaining the situation and that there was considerable discussion, on the talk page of iPhone, with a link to the old talk page. In other words, on the new talk page, state what's happened and have a link to the old talk page. Perhaps there is a template for this? I'm not sure. James086 Talk 12:33, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
 * For the moment, until the naming dispute is resolved, we need to keep the Talk page for the Linksys iPhone with the Linksys iPhone page. Also, those discussions were with the article they're linked to now, so moving the whole page probably would be inappropriate. If there's discussions about the (then future) Apple iPhone on that page, it might be worthwhile to do a copy&paste archive into the Apple iPhone article's Talk page. See How to archive a talk page. -- Kesh 23:04, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

link a e-mail
how can i link a e-mail? --Maestrotaku 14:53, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
 * In general, e-mail addresses should not be used in Wikipedia. In what context would you want to use it? Notinasnaid 15:23, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

how long does it take...?
thank you for the opporotunity to be a part of Wikipedia. I dont know if i am doing everything wright, i tryied to upload images and try again, how long does it take to upload to be aproved for these images? and what if one is too big, will you let me know..? thank you Sincerly Catherine Manna...House of Israel music
 * There is no approval process (though unsuitable material may be deleted): images once uploaded are immediately available. Yours are there. I do see a some ppssible issues, looking at Image:Proverb maple leaf.jpg. This identifies a source, http://music.download.com/houseofisrael. However, I have visited this page and cannot find the original of this picture to check the copyright. You have also written "fair use", yet the license you have chosen is ", the creator of this work, hereby grant the permission to copy, distribute and/or modify this document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License". You will need to clarify this, or the image will be deleted. I we can help you if you explain more about it. Finally, though, it isn't obvious which article you plan to add these images to, since you haven't yet edited any articles. Maybe we can help you with that too. Notinasnaid 18:15, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

A bot account that isn't a bot?
I worry I am artifically inflating my edit count through mass WikiProject banner tagging and newsletter delivery. Would it be OK to create an account called Devbot, but to edit entirely by hand and AWB? I'm useless with scripts and find it helpful to go through everything personally, as it flags up other issues that need fixing. I don't want to mislead anyone, but I don't want to have hundreds of repetitive contributions either. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 19:32, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
 * You would need to read through the guidelines pages (there are more than one) about user accounts and sock puppetry, which I have not been able locate at this time, but you may well be able to create a second user account, as long as you give it a clear description on its user page, outlining what it is and is not used for and why it was created. That way, it should be clear that it is all above board and not an attempt at sock puppetry. If what you want to achieve can be done with a bot, you may be able to enlist the assistance of a bot expert - perhaps place the template on your talk page. Adrian M. H. 20:10, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Cool. I guess even if it is named a bot name it still counts as a sockpuppet, so I'll mark it as such. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 22:38, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
 * What you're looking for is Bot policy. Just mark on the "bot" user page that it's not a live bot, but used for automated editing with AWB, then link it back to your own account. -- Kesh 23:07, 13 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I believe if it says bot, it should be a bot. But if you have a second account and you mark it as your account for doing those sort of things, I don't think that would violate policy. For one, you're not pretending you're a wholly different person if you stated it on the userpage of the 2nd account. Additionally, if you don't contribute to disputes/votes as the second account, there'd be no real sockpuppetry. .V. (talk) 06:29, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Doukhobors
I have made revisions to this section, but when I closed it down and went back to access it, the changes disappeared. What do I need to do ensure the changes remain?

PS: How do I log in?


 * It seems like you are viewing an old version of the page - if you are using Mozilla FireFox, press CONTROL + Reload Button (at top) and you should see your changes appear as they are presently.


 * To log in, use the "log in/create account" button at the top right hand corner of the screen; of course, you need to create account if you have not already.


 * For more, see Help:Logging in.

Anthony cfc  [ T &bull; C] 20:01, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Regards,

how to receive the old Vmf Autosave if i have formated my copyrighted file of the map
hello there is my problem

i have formated my cpu and formated the maps too in my hammer.. so i dont have vmf .. but juste the BSP WITH COPYRIGHT ..

so i want to know if valve can send me the old autosaved files .. because there is online connection to join SDK i think there is too a save programm for all the users ..

or a method to decompile a copyrighted map ..

plz help i need to upgrade my online map !
 * Sounds like you're wanting to talk to Valve Software. This page is for questions about Wikipedia itself. -- Kesh 23:10, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Could someone block this user?
Garycocker...he left an obscene message on my tlk page and his edits have been vandalism to pages (usually right-ist political pages) i hope an admin is around to ban this person..(could not find an apporpriate tag to put on his talk page either) Fethroesforia 21:12, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
 * List it on WP:AIV. Trebor 21:20, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Where to go to ask for comments
RfC's are for conflict situations. How about if you just want feeback on a page? Sethie 22:40, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
 * In that case, you're looking for Peer review. -- Kesh 23:11, 13 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you! Sethie 23:47, 13 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Or Requests for feedback. - Mgm|(talk) 16:21, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Contents Box
I noticed many pages have a "Contents" box. I don't see any info about how to add it. Is it automatically generated" If so, what triggers the generation?
 * It's automatically generated once you create the fourth section on the page using = symbols. -- Kesh 23:12, 13 January 2007 (UTC)


 * See Help:Section. Two equals signs produces a level two heading (the first that you would use) with an underline, while three equals signs provides a level three heading, which appears in the TOC (Table of Contents) as a sub section. Adrian M. H. 15:53, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Starting a WikiProject
I would like to know how a WikiProject can be started. I would like to start one for the Sonci the Hedgehog series and articles. GrandMasterGalvatron 22:45, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Wikiprojects are essentially user-made. You can read more about how to get started here. -- Kesh 23:13, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I have seen a console games WP somewhere, which you should fid listed at WP:WikiProject. It might be better to consult its members first, as your subject comes under their remit. Adrian M. H. 15:55, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Date Error
Looks like we've got a problem with the dates here. The last date header is still just January 10th. Not sure who to notify of this one. -- Kesh 22:59, 13 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Fixed by hand Cheers Lethaniol 23:57, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Mod Please Delete Article
Some one please delete this article because there is another one.


 * Have redirected instead -see WP:redirect Cheers Lethaniol 01:05, 14 January 2007 (UTC)