Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2007 June 29

= June 29 =

did i do this right
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:061219_spears_hmed_4p_h2.jpg

I made it no soruce. There was a website link but it was broken--Gustyfalcon 00:27, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * No. Further comments on User talk:Gustyfalcon. Shalom Hello 01:00, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

I didnt upload it--Gustyfalcon 02:32, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Does it cost money to run a Wiki?
I'm just thinking of starting my own... Angry Sun 00:58, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Potentially. You need a computer to run it from, which can be as simple as your own home computer. If you want to share it with others, then you have to pay for an internet connection and (usually) hosting fees. Most ISPs frown on home users setting up their own servers without paying additional fees. Or, you could use a service that hosts wikis like Wikia. It all depends on how you want to run it. -- Kesh 01:23, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * This question suggests the questioner is very early in what is typically a long learning process to become a wiki administrator. It is possible to start your own wiki on a stick for zero incremental monetary cost (since you probably already have a computer if you can read this, and the software is free), and I recommend that you start by doing that to learn the technology, but if you want other people to see your wiki, somebody will have to pay to host it on the Internet (either you, or some kind of hosting service like Wikia which tries to generate ad revenue). But first, decide whether you really need to start your own wiki. What do you want to write about that isn't already being handled by at least one existing wiki? Search WikiIndex first to see if another wiki is already out there. Many smaller wikis tend to be underused as it is. That is, they need more enthusiasts in their subject areas to contribute. In the meantime, Wikipedia deletes thousands of pages per day. Go figure. --Teratornis 19:23, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

potential vandalism?
The user User:12.218.62.240 seems to be a member of the Muller family of Estherville, Iowa, based on his edits. I suspect that his edit on Norman Lear is not based on fact, but I don't want to revert it. Someone want to go through and make some decisions on the notablilty/veracity of his edits? I removed the most recent one, but I'm a bit new here, and I'm not sure if I'm justified in systematically removing all the contributions of a single user. (sorry, forgot to sign) Noliver 00:59, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Questions like this normally belong on the Conflict of interest noticeboard. Because I have experience working there, I was able to study this case myself.  I did need to revert a few edits and leave a message on Talk:Norman Lear asking whether he was born in Estherville (as this IP claims) or in New Haven.  I will leave a note on User talk:12.218.62.240. Shalom Hello 01:21, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks, and sorry for posting to the wrong place. Noliver 06:25, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Disputes
What constitutes a dispute? Hallpriest9 ( Talk |  Archive ) 01:35, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Dispute. Beyond that, we'd need to know more about what you're referring to. It's a bit of a vague question. -- Kesh 01:41, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * On Wikipedia? Usually it means a disagreement between editors that isn't quickly resolved by a brief discussion. (I suppose it technically applies to the ones that are resolved by a brief discussion as well, but nobody really talks about those to other people and they're usually more like misunderstandings.) You may be wanting the link to Dispute resolution here. --tjstrf talk 01:44, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Does this mean a disagreement with respect to a fact, a style/format, or something different? Hallpriest9 ( Talk |  Archive ) 00:05, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Citing Repeats
I want to use the same reference several times in a text, how do I write the edit to acheive this without having to repeat all the data and end up with two identical references with seperate numbers? Yes I have given them a ref name="pmidxxxxx" show me what to type in edit for the second refJagra 02:34, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * For the second ref, just type --tjstrf talk 02:35, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * That should be with / at the end. See Footnotes. PrimeHunter 02:49, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Right you are. Fixed. --tjstrf talk 02:59, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks my error has been in using "pmid 123456" ie a number in the name and this will return a Cite ErrorJagra 04:15, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Sanhedrin references
Dear sir, madam,

I'm a new user, I've just edited the article about the "Sanhedrin". I didn't know how to insert references and I feel the way I've done it, although correct in facts, is inadequate in appearance. Could you give me a reference to show me where to improve it with hyperlinks etc?

Kind regards, Bert —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.205.37.2 (talk • contribs)
 * Please see Footnotes for how to use and to create clean-looking footnotes. - BanyanTree 03:07, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

help me
How do i post content? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 57th street kid (talk • contribs)
 * See Creating an article -- Kesh 03:41, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

FONT
When I access any of the Wiki family of sire they come up in an italic font that is very difficult to read. When I finall decipher and find something I wish to copy by highlighting, copying and pasting the result is alsways in TNR font. Is there a way I can get this font to come up on screen?

--203.173.169.74 04:59, 29 June 2007 (UTC)John Hatchard
 * I've seen a similar question here before, and I don't have a clue. Unfortunately, there's no help page on the Wikipedia system that deals with this problem AFAIK.  You could try asking at Reference desk/Computing. Shalom Hello 06:35, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

WHERE IS MY IMAGE?
I'VE UPLOADED AN IMAGE A FEW DAYS AGO WHILE EDITING Dhoom 2. I THOUGHT THAT MY UPLOADED IMAGE WOULD BE PLACED IN THAT PAGE, BUT AFTER COMPLETION OF THE UPLOADING FILE MY IMAGE HAS NOT BEEN ADDED TO THAT PAGE. NOW WHERE CAN I FIND THE IMAGA? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.7.123.130 (talk • contribs)
 * Please log in and show us your account so that we can put the image in the article for you. We can't find it if you don't log in. Also the image was probably deleted if you did not give a description of its copyright status. Tim Q. Wells 06:04, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Pownetwork.com deletion
Hello, I read that the reason behind the pownetwork.org page deletion was that it was a subject that wasn't of significance or something like that. I still quite don't understand the terminology of what you are using. I felt it was inportant to put up. The Stolen Valor Act of 2005 makes it a federal offense for a person to claim military prestige that they did not earn to self promote themselves. The site isn't a slam site, the people do look up to verify that 1.) The person is making extravagant military claims and 2.) The claims they make are simply not true through records or a lack thereof. People need to recognize there are phonies up there that will take advantage of them. I am a servicemember and have family members and many friends whom are veterans of the Afghanistan and Iraq wars, and it makes them unhappy to outright mad when they see or hear about them. There are also countless amounts of non-servicemembers who have been scammed financially, emotionally, and a few times physically by these people. People should ought to know.

Also, it's primarily a memorial site for the POW/MIA of all the wars the U.S. have been in. I think that's a plus too. I would like a quick response back. Thank you.

Sincerely,

Guardiangirl777


 * Wikipedia is a large site and has room for many articles, but this is an encyclopedia, not a directory of everything ever made. It is very important to us that the content is verifiable. In general, this means that there need to be independent third party sources and articles must have references. For web sites, you can read more details about the inclusion criteria here. Best of luck! Henrik 05:17, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

References: do not send to footnote
Please help check Opus Dei article's reference notes 76 onwards. They do not send to any footnote. In fact there are more than 75 footnotes but footnotes 76 up to 100 do not appear at the foot of the article. Please help. Thanks. Walter Ching 05:10, 29 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Fixed! Henrik 05:20, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Welsh people
Hi. I've been trying to fix something User:Cstephen did to the info box in the Welsh people article, which messed up the references at the end of the article, but without total success. The refs are okay now, but the info box contains an error message. It might have been fixed by now, but could someone take a look please?--Shantavira|feed me 07:14, 29 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Fixed! Henrik 07:17, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Clarification
I'm about to do a mass translation from the French Wikipedia on communes. I just want to clarify if all towns are notable by right? Sr13 07:35, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm sure they are, just as Meeteetse, Wyoming and Holsloot are. Tim Q. Wells 08:34, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

recovering deletions
I wrote quite a long article in the summer of 2005 on an English school called Beaumont College. I spent a long time on it, adding bits and pieces as I found them, and didn't keep a copy myself, thinking that the Wiki material would always be available.

One day I found a community website containing a fair amount of useful information on local history in the area. I took some material from it, rephrasing what I was using to make sure, in my judgement, that I was staying within the "fair use" provisions of copyright law. One day my article was suddenly blocked by an administrator on copyright grounds. I complained that he should be prepared to discuss the nature of his complaints, that I was happy to amend the material I had used further if what I had written did not comply with US copyright law (my knowledge is of the law in the UK), and that it was very unfair to destroy all the work I had done when it was only a very small part of it, which could easily be removed, that he was objecting to. I had no reply. Then the article was deleted altogether.

I have now found that there are supposed to be ways of challenging this kind of action. But although there is now again an article called "Beaumont College", it is very short and there is no trace of my earlier article. Can I find it somewhere, and try and resurrect the 95% of it that did not offend the administrator?

Deipnosophista 07:42, 29 June 2007 (UTC)


 * We'll have a chat on your talk page. Sr13 08:14, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

oracle application CRM modules
i want oracle application CRM module details


 * Try Oracle's website, and these articles: Oracle E-Business Suite, Customer relationship management, Oracle Applications, and Oracle Corporation. There doesn't appear to be a lot on CRM itself, but this may help. Jim Dunning | talk  12:30, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Filmography
I want to create a Filmography like this one Editing Template:Ursula Andress Films but when I try to create one, I get a blank article page. How do I get a blank Template page ?

87.243.196.167 10:33, 29 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Are you referring to a list like the one on Ursula Andress filmography or the navigation/summary box called "Main Filmography" at the bottom of the article Ursula Andress? If it's the list, then review Help:Table for information on how to organize data in tables. If it's the "Main Filmography" one, then you can go to Template:Ursula Andress Films and use the markup as a guide to start the template you're shooting for (you might want to review Help:Template as well). Good luck. Jim Dunning | talk  12:48, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Rhe Royal School Dungannon
These are corrections which for accuracy need to be made. Thank you Paul Hewitt, Headmaster, The Royal School, Dungannon.
 * Please read WP:COI. After that, feel free to WP:EDIT it yourself --ʇuǝɯɯoɔɐqǝɟ 11:51, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * So long as you cite reliable sources to support the edits. Corvus cornix 17:10, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Sandbox
Is there a warning for someone that deletes the sandbox heading? Thedjatclubrock :) (talk) 00:10, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * uw-delete. I actually think that template needs a tweak though; maybe should refer to the more inclusive "pages," rather than "articles."--Fuhghettaboutit 00:58, 29 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Can a user be blocked if S(he) Deletes the template with multiple warninngs. Thanks,Thedjatclubrock :) (talk) 11:02, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Not really, no, especially since, so it would be a little silly to block them for blanking the sandbox header when they probably don't even know they're doing something wrong-- VectorPotential Talk 11:32, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

I can't remember my login name.
I am trying to log in. but can't remember my account name. As to get you to email me my password. What do i do? I don't want to create a new account.


 * You will need to create a new account, sorry. Try to keep better track of these things in the future. --ʇuǝɯɯoɔɐqǝɟ 11:49, 29 June 2007 (UTC)


 * There is one possibility. Can you remember any pages you edited with your account? If so your account name will be listed in the page history. Raven4x4x 13:50, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

INCLUSION OFOUR GROUP INFO
I am representative of The Dawood Group, Pakistan [www.dawoodgroup.com]. we want to include our information in wikipedia so that our group also becomes part of all the info u providing to all internet users.

Please help me in this regard.

Thanks & Regards

Asim


 * See WP:N, then WP:COI. If you feel you can satisfy both of those, visit WP:AFC and WP:FIRST --ʇuǝɯɯoɔɐqǝɟ 12:16, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

feasibility report
please can you show me how to write feasibility report


 * The help desk is for help with using wikipedia. See WP:RD for some help --ʇuǝɯɯoɔɐqǝɟ 12:16, 29 June 2007 (UTC)


 * You might also try Feasibility study or any of the relevant links on Business process. Good luck. Jim Dunning | talk  12:37, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Can an image be a link?
Hello! I'm using wiki markup to make a template on a wiki site and I haven't managed to figure this out: can I link to an external page with an image? Or does the image always link to its own page? Thanks for your reply, --Missmarple 12:17, 29 June 2007 (UTC)


 * You cannot, to my knowledge, use an image as a link with wiki markup. You must use HTML. -- Kainaw (what?) 12:19, 29 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Oooh, I see :) Completely forgot about HTML... thanks, --Missmarple 12:36, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Can't find the "get help from an expert editor" page
Hello.

I'm really sorry to bother you, but the other day I ran into a Wiki page about getting assistance from a veteran editor. I thought it was a great idea, so I went and got all my info together, so I could make the edit I wanted. I went back to try to get that assistance, and now I can't find it anywhere :(

It's in reference to the page Otherkin, which is being shredded by editors currently. It even has a reference to clinical lycanthropy, which #1. Has nothing to do with otherkin and #2. Inherently attacks otherkin as a spiritual belief by making up some connection to a psychological disorder. Because of the attack on the belief system, I feel it's rather urgent to update it as soon as possible.

Thank you very much for your assistance.

RubyCona 12:57, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * There are several options available. For one, you can just post your question right here and somebody should be able to help you. If it's more urgent or more detailed, you can add the helpme template onto your user talk page, and somebody will show up to help you out. Or if you'd like more long-term guidance, you can join Adopt-a-User. Or feel free to just go to my talk page and ask there, and I'll be happy to help you out. ;-) --Maelwys 13:05, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * There are several WikiProjects out there that have users who have specialized knowledge in various topics. You can look in WikiProject Council/Directory for an appropriate project.  I don't have any experience with Otherkin, but I could tell you all sorts of things about Richardsonian Romanesque architecture.  --Elkman (Elkspeak) 13:32, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Edit request
Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evergreen_House

Please change "Evergreen House" to "Evergreen Museum & Library" as we have officially changed our name. Verification may be found on our website at http://www.museums.jhu.edu.
 * Done-- VectorPotential Talk 17:14, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Edit request
Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homewood_House#History

Please change "Homewood House" to "Homewood Museum" as we have officially changed our name. For verification, please visit http://www.museums.jhu.edu.
 * Done-- VectorPotential Talk 17:14, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

I'll just put my post-to-be here, then :)
Hello! Thanks for responding!

It's in reference to the Wikipedia page, Otherkin, which has been a battlefield for a few years now, namely because there were no actual books published about Otherkin. Just recently a book was published, it's called A Field Guide to Otherkin, by Lupa. Just Lupa. The 1st 30 pages of the book are viewable online at http://www.thegreenwolf.com/preview.pdf. The ISBN number is 978-1-905713-07-3 Copyright 2007

Currently, there's a reference in the page to something called Clinical Lycanthropy. I'd like to edit that to clarify that it's in reference to the belief that someone is Physically other than human, namely, a wolf. It says so right in the link on "clinical lycanthropy." It just says "belief that one is other than human" currently, which indicates a connection to Otherkin that isn't valid. Otherkin is the belief that one is Spiritually other than human. That or completely remove the reference to Clinical Lycanthropy, since it has nothing to do with Otherkin.

I'd like to remove the "Common creatures to which Otherkin claim some connection include angels, demons, elves, fairies, lycanthropes, and even extra-terrestrials.[1][2]" and replace it with more detailed information, from the book:

"Otherkin can be broken down into several categories: Elves and Fey, therianthropes, mythological animals (the most common of which being dragon), vampires, angelkin and demonkin, Kitsune (an unique fox spirit otherkin, primarily from China and Japan), Multiples and Walkins, and Otakukin and Mediakin. This last group is highly controversial within the otherkin community, opinions vary as to whether they are actually a part of Otherkin, or an entirely seperate phenomenon."

This is paraphrased from the book's section on "types of otherkin." I'd like to break down the categories below.

And right next to the Clinical Lycanthropy line (again, edited to clarify it's the belief one is Physically other than human) I'd like to add a line saying, "An Otherkin is one who believes that "through either a nonphysical or (much more rarely) physical means, s/he is not entirely human" (- direct quote). The most common belief is that one was once non human, then reincarnated into human form." with the little {#} thing showing that it's referenced to the A Field Guide to Otherkin book.

And to add the book as reference. Don't know how to do any of those things.

I'm not too savvy on wikipedia's rules. Can you have a bunch of information from a single book? There's only one book in existance about otherkin, virtually all information on the community exists as online resources, like www.otherkin.net, which the editors say are invalid since they're not published.

I'd like to basically write the article based on the otherkin book, but there's a few problems. I don't know how to do HTML stuff, don't know how to make the category stuff, don't know how to make links, zip nadda. And, I'm not sure if writing the article based on primarily 1 source is ok by wikipedia. The book is pretty neutral, for the most part. The author is otherkin, however, she's just detailing the facts about otherkin, the community, from a pretty matter-of-fact point of view, from surveys and researsuch. So, I think it's a very good source for the article.

Thanks for your help :D

RubyCona 14:07, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * This should be on the Talk page for Otherkin. The Help desk isn't for resolving editing disputes. If you feel that you are at an impasse with editors on that article, you might go through dispute resolution. -- Kesh 23:20, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Anyone to know the DFD of help desk application?
Anyone to know the DFD of help desk application? I want sample Data Flow Diagram for help desk application, which is using in maximum BPO's. Please send me the DFD for simple help desk application. Email_Id : (email address removed)

vipin —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)


 * I'm not sure what you want. We have an article on Data flow diagram. The software controlling this help desk is the same as other Wikipedia pages and many other wikis: MediaWiki. PrimeHunter 14:54, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Your chances of getting a useful answer improve if you link all the jargon and three letter acronyms in your question to pages that define them. BPO is ambiguous, thus it has a disambiguation page. The only entry that might have something to do with the rest of your question seems to be the first one. But we don't know if the list of entries in BPO is exhaustive, so you will have to explain what you mean. --Teratornis 15:04, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

AWB for linux
WP:AWB makes it rather clear that it will only run on Microsoft software, are there any clients similar to AWB for linux though? Something more than just popups would be nice --ʇuǝɯɯoɔɐqǝɟ 14:16, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Check the links in User:John Broughton/Editor's Index to Wikipedia, e.g. Tools/Browser tools. If nothing listed there is what you want, and you find something elsewhere, please add your finding to the Editor's Index. Also try searching Meta-Wiki and mediawiki.org. --Teratornis 18:06, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Question or Article Request
Does anyone know why exactly the "Ceramite" page redirects to Weapons of the Imperium, when the latter page has zero mention of Ceramite? Furthermore, Google seems to indicate ceramite is used in real life in various construction and electronics applications, so it should probably have its own page rather than redirecting to one of a fictional universe. 24.65.61.166 15:49, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Jim Dunning | talk  16:07, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Apparently, Ceramite is an "important" material in the construction of body armor in fictional game universes. Since it is also a "real" material in our universe, a disambiguation page should also be created and the redirect removed.

Jim Dunning | talk  16:26, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Further research shows that Ceramite is a trademarked (and therefore a proprietary) product of Elkem Materials. It may not necessarily be a well-known material and therefore not notable enough for inclusion in WP. On the other hand, it might be as notable as Corian and someone could start a page on it. If you're interested in doing so, then contact an admin about deleting the redirect and create a disambiguation page along with the article on Ceramite.


 * Disambiguation pages are used to disambiguate between Wikipedia articles and we don't appear to have an article mentioning a real material at the moment. Ceramite was mentioned in Weapons of the Imperium when the redirect was pointed there but not now, so I have changed the target to Equipment of the Imperium (Warhammer 40,000). The redirect does not have to be deleted in order to create a disambiguation page or article. When the redirect target is reached after clicking Ceramite, just click the Ceramite link in "(Redirected from Ceramite)" and then edit the page normally. PrimeHunter 16:36, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Jim Dunning | talk  18:33, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the additional info and education.

The words "effect" and "affect"
Which word would I use in a sentence such as "The gas was having a very negative affect on me"?
 * Effect. - Zeibura (Talk) 16:32, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Jim Dunning | talk  16:33, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * "Effect". See the Wiktionary definition.
 * See List of frequently misused English words for the affect/effect entry. --Teratornis 17:57, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

FOREST AND WILDLIFE RESOURCES
WHAT IS NORMAL SPECIES?
 * Please try the reference desk desk! Dep. Garcia ( Talk   + |  Help Desk  |  Complaints  ) 17:45, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Go to Reference desk/Science.  A  W  08:49, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Template
How do you create a new Template ? Tovojolo 17:51, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Go to YOURTEMPLATENAMEHERE or Template:YOURTEMPLATENAMEHERE and start typing-- VectorPotential Talk 17:55, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict) The same way as you create an article. Coding for a template can be complex, though, so it's advisable to look at other similar templates for guidance if you've never create one before. See also Template namespace. --ais523 17:56, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I was going to edit that into my post, now I don't have to (-: I will however add a link to m:Help:Template -- VectorPotential Talk 17:58, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Templates are an "advanced" feature of MediaWiki which means you can expect to need some time to study them. Start with Help:Template and see the links under User:John Broughton/Editor's Index to Wikipedia. --Teratornis 18:00, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Carried Interest definition was deleted -- How do I protest and get it reinstated?
On June 22, a tag was placed on an entry I made about "Carried Interest." The objection from the tag/bot was that the term was a copyright infringement. Carried Interest is NOT a copyrighted term, it is a term used within the investment fund world to describe a fund manager's share of distribution from a private equity fund or hedge fund. Additionally, this term, and now issue, has been all over the US press lately as the US Congress is seriously looking at increasing significantly the taxes paid on this distribution.

Can you please advise me and/or help me on the best way to get this definition reinstated? This is my first Wikipedia experience and entry.

Sincerely,

KSTax--KSTax 18:13, 29 June 2007 (UTC)


 * It's not the subject of the article that causes copyright concerns, it's the content. You can't just cut n paste from some website.  Wikipedia is free content.  Try writing about this topic in your own words.  Friday (talk) 18:14, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Also keep in mind that the article was tagged and deleted by humans, not by bots. The bot just left the note on your talk page. Often times, people don't through new articles or recent changes do not leave comments on page, because it takes too much time, effort, or they just forget, so there are bots to take care of the stuff that humans don't want to --ʇuǝɯɯoɔɐqǝɟ 18:17, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

User boxe questions
Excuse me, but is there a directory of userboxes? And what is the wikicookie? 8th sinn 18:40, 29 June 2007 (UTC)8th sinn8th sinn 18:40, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * The first part of your question is easy, WP:UBX. The second part of your question is slightly confusing. -- VectorPotential Talk 18:42, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Jim Dunning | talk  18:56, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I think this is the WikiCookie. It appears to be an inactive rewards system.
 * I think people still give others cookies. It's like a light version of a barnstar. ssepp(talk) 21:36, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Australian Cityizenship Test
The Australian Cityizenship Test -- Comments Plerase 220.238.121.16 18:58, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * What kind of comments? We don't appear to have an article about it. This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. The Reference Desk is for general knowledge questions. But if you are looking for comments about the Australian Citizenship Test then Wikipedia is probably not a good place. You could try a Google search . PrimeHunter 19:54, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

German Porcelain Trademarks
I am attempting to find who a trademark belongs to on a porcelain figurine that is stamped Germany and had a mark on it I am not familar with. Where can I find a list of trademarks before 1940?…19:05, 29 June 2007 (UTC)72.188.227.70Tinkersmom
 * The help desk is for questions about using Wikipedia. You could ask your question at the reference desk. ssepp(talk) 21:28, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Changing Username That Has Been Taken
Back around January, this year, an account called Smuggler was created along with Smuggler inc, Those accounts have been inactive and do not have pages up. I am looking to create a page that gives a list of neutral facts about a production company. Companies such as 40anceres and a mule are listed with hardly any facts or information about their productions. There is also a list of directors along with the company founders that I would like to document in this page. The Smuggler and Smuggler inc accounts are inactive and merely reserving those names. I would like to have either name because the company is called smuggler. It would be incorrect and inconvenient to put this listing under any other name. I just would like to document facts about smuggler and the directors involved.


 * See WP:USURP --ʇuǝɯɯoɔɐqǝɟ 20:02, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Authors deleting CSD tag on own article
Please advise on how to deal with authors deleting the CSD tag on their own articles. Thanks!--Evil1987 20:17, 29 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Warn them using uw-speedy1 and put CSD tag on a page again.  Jacek  Kendysz  20:24, 29 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks. The user has done additional editing and I'm no longer certain it qualifies for speedy deletion, so I think I'll warn them without re-tagging the page.  Does that sound okay?--Evil1987


 * I'd say so. The way I'd do it would be to make use of the additional text parameter of the warning template - so Article name would give

Welcome to Wikipedia. Please do not remove speedy deletion tags from articles that you have created yourself. If you do not believe the article should be deleted, then please place  on the page (please do not remove any existing speedy deletion tag) and make your case on the article's. Administrators will look at your reasoning before deciding what to do with the article. However, in this case you seem to have also added sufficient information to the article to disqualify it from speedy deletion, so I will not be re-adding the tag. Thank you.


 * Which seems to say what you want to say. Confusing Manifestation 14:54, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

changing an article
I've been asked to completely update, change, overhaul an article on Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Tarrant. It needs sources and, as a biography, isn't very accurate. I've been working with the person who the article is about (John Tarrant) to come up with the new text. Is it okay to just eliminate the old article and replace it? The original author is also in favor of updating the article and adding references.

Second question. About references: Some of the information in the article is also referenced in author bio's from the books the subject has written and there is one other book that has some material we probably use, but in general it's just material given by the subject of the article. What's the best way to do the references in this case?

24.18.156.147 20:25, 29 June 2007 (UTC)R. Boughton
 * It should be alright to remove/rewrite content, as long as you use descriptive edit summaries you should be fine, otherwise people might think you're blanking the article, and might try to revert you-- VectorPotential Talk 20:31, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Jim Dunning | talk  22:35, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * You could also discuss the proposed changes on the article's Talk page to solicit input.


 * I don't see a problem, provided you leave a notice explaining your changes on the article talk page. However, we ask people to be careful when editing articles they are closely associated with. Take a look through our conflict of interest guidelines. --h2g2bob (talk) 23:09, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

tagged?
'This article has been tagged'  What does this mean? 69.204.104.156 20:42, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Depends on the context, could mean it's been tagged for cleanup, or it could mean it's been tagged for deletion (WP:CSD or WP:AfD) and any number of things in between. As I said, context is everything-- VectorPotential Talk 20:44, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * If you saw this message on an article in a box saying "This article has been tagged since (month and year)", then it should mean the box has been there since the given time. The box should also say what the box is for. PrimeHunter 22:23, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

using International Music Score Library Project (IMSLP)
I have reached the International Music Score Library Project (IMSLP) page. But nothing there shows me how to use it. It is supposed to have scores for various works, such as Bach's 3rd Orchestral Suite in D, but I don't see how to find any scores.

How do I use your page?

Thanks.

76.184.120.45 21:05, 29 June 2007 (UTC)


 * The website for that project is here. I think you were on the wikipedia article for that project instead of its website. Wikipedia (this website) is an encyclopedia. IMSLP is not related to Wikipedia. If you have further question about IMSLP please ask at their site, not here. ssepp(talk) 21:24, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Vacation template
I'm going to be away for a while, so I wanted to create a vacation template for myself. I can write any text, but I'm having an issue with the default color of the vacation template, which is orange. How can I make an identical template with the first set of dark blue colors featured at WP:COLOR? - AMP&#39;d 21:12, 29 June 2007 (UTC)


 * First, you need to type on your talk page and save. Then, after that, go edit the code so that the first line reads


 * {| class="messagebox standard" style=background:#cedff2 border:#a3b0bf


 * And leave the rest as is. That should work. --tjstrf talk 21:25, 29 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Awesome! Where is this written down? - AMP&#39;d 21:34, 29 June 2007 (UTC)


 * It can be found here (if that is what you were asking). Tim Q. Wells 21:47, 29 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Actually, it isn't written down. I just spliced those directions together based on wikibreak, which accepts a background colour input field, and told you how to replace the revelant code from holiday so that it also accepted background colour. It would actually be pretty easy to merge the code into the template directly, now that you mention it. --tjstrf talk 21:51, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Britney Spears
hey guys, i have news about Britney Spears, but as im a new user i cant add it ...so here is the link for the whizz that can lol...

http://x17online.com/celebrities/britney_spears/x17_xclusive_britney_update_a_new_man_a_new_agent_a_new_explanation_for_the_letter.php
 * I"m sorry, but this is too broad and unspecific. Perhaps you can add it yourself: please see How to edit a page. The Evil Spartan 21:43, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

concentration camps
Yes, I'd like to ask a question. In the Iraqi war going on right now, are there concentration camps for middle eastern's like the Japanese in WWII? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)
 * Try the reference desk. Politically loaded questions like that aren't likely to float far anyway, though. The Evil Spartan 21:42, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)
 * See also our articles on Internment and Japanese American internment. The term "concentration camps" is generally not used about the internment camps for Japanese in USA during WWII. They were very different from the Nazi concentration camps and extermination camps which is what people today usually associate with "concentration camps". PrimeHunter 21:56, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * The euphemism treadmill spins again! Here's an excerpt:
 * For example, the term “concentration camp,” to describe camps used to house civilian prisoners, was used by the British during the Second Boer War, primarily because it sounded bland and inoffensive. However, after the Third Reich used the expression to describe its death camps, the term gained enormous negative connotation. Since then, new terms have been invented as euphemisms for them, such as internment camps, resettlement camps, etc.
 * Some might consider Camp X-Ray and Camp Delta to be concentration camps, but the official term for these facilities is detainment camp (the euphemism treadmill has ratcheted forward a few notches). Also, those camps are not for all members of a certain ethnicity, but for persons accused by the U.S. government of being "illegal combatants." For one of the most brutal instances of prisoner confinement in U.S. history, see Andersonville National Historic Site. --Teratornis 22:19, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Reverts
I saw this on an article history :

(diff) (hist). . Jennifer Tilly‎; 08:18. . (+14) . . SatyrTN (Talk | contribs) (Reverted edits by 69.156.23.19 to version 140161588 by 71.229.183.112)

Where does the figure 140161588 come from ?

I'm looking at the Jennifer Tilly history right now and I don't see it.

Where does it come from ? What does it represent ?

Tovojolo 21:46, 29 June 2007 (UTC)


 * It means it was the 140,161,588th time someone edited Wikipedia. Tim Q. Wells 21:50, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

So if I wanted to see that, what would I do ? --Tovojolo 21:53, 29 June 2007 (UTC)


 * You know on diff links, how it will have a part of the address bar saying "&oldid=" and then a number? Well, if you paste the number of a given revision in, in this case 140161588, instead of the one that's there by default, it will show you that revision. So you want http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jennifer_Tilly&oldid=140161588
 * This is actually true no matter what page you are on, so for instance, the address http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&oldid=140161588 actually doesn't display a revision of this page, but rather the one from that Jennifer Tilly article again. Which gives you some weird results if you try navigating diffs from it. --tjstrf talk 22:00, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Questions about adding a Medical Device company to Wiki?
How do you add this to Wiki? What are the guidlines for adding information about this company? Thx for you help.

Tom —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tomdos (talk • contribs).


 * See Creating an article. -- Kainaw (what?) 23:01, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * But for guidelines, please check WP:N and specifically WP:CORP. If you are associated with the company, please check WP:COI and WP:AB. Basically any user who has been registered for five days can create an article, but any other user can question the notability of the article's subject, and a consensus that the subject is non-notable will cause the article to be deleted. When in doubt, ask before wasting a lot of your time. -70.177.166.200 03:00, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
 * And think very carefully about whether this is what you really want to do. Remember, it's the encyclopedia that anyone can edit -- that includes your competitors, disgruntled customers, and all their friends and relatives. 03:28, 30 June 2007 (UTC)