Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2007 June 5

= June 5 =

Help me
I want to listen to the sports from WNUY 101.1 FM, but don't get a very good signal. It comes and goes. Can I get this station on the internet where I can listen to it?? We want to listen to the Norwell Baseball games, but can't hear most of the time. Thanks

Myron Ridgeway Andrws, IN.
 * I believe you might be interested in the Reference Desk, which is considerably better qualified to answer broad knowledge questions. However, I myself have done a brief search, and I wasn't able to find a link to an internet broadcast - most stations stopped broadcasting online a few years ago due to the fact that sports venues were requiring royalties from them. The Evil Spartan 00:17, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Image lining up
I just inserted an image into Amazing Grace - I'm convinced the image at the top makes it look much better. But I can't figure out a why to get the lyrics below the image and not to sit to the right of it. Does anybody know a way that won't mess up the page? I will try Village pump as well. The Evil Spartan 00:17, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

James Howden
I want to add an entry for James Howden. He was an important Scottish innovator and businessman. The redirect for James Howden goes to James H. Howden, Canadian politician. How do I add a page for my guy?

Thanks Snowbound 00:35, 5 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Create the article named James Howden (innovator) or James Howden (businessman). ---CWY2190TC 00:37, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Then you can change the James Howden redirect to be a disambiguation page linking to both articles. --Strangerer (Talk) 01:03, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

How to flag an image for copyright violation?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Google_infiniteloop.jpg is obviously in violation of google's copyright, due to the icons used, and the copyright of whatever company google obtained the image from. How would I report this to have it removed?


 * See Images and media for deletion and follow the instructions. ---CWY2190TC 00:50, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Another option would be to go to Copyright problems and follow the instructions for images. --Strangerer (Talk) 01:07, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

What does one do about objectionable usernames?
Do nothing... take it as the joke it is?

The user name in question is not profanity. I just don't like it because it sounds like a dictator.

Hypothetically, would the following usernames be allowed? God, King of you idiots, Me smart others dumb, etc.


 * Yes. Of course.  I once saw someone using Youth In Asia.  I thought that far worse than any you mentioned. --Kainaw (talk) 01:31, 5 June 2007 (UTC)


 * See WP:RFCN and WP:U. Anchoress 01:34, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

china
what is the characteristic,advantage and disadvantage of planned economy at china.


 * Post this on WP:Reference desk. The Help desk is for questions about the use of Wikipedia. ---CWY2190TC 02:15, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Posting Images You Took With Your Own Camera
24.218.183.113 02:25, 5 June 2007 (UTC) June 4, 2007 - Suppose you didn't have the copyright for radio station logos but you took a picture of the outside of the radio station with a digital camera you own. Suppose that wasn't the station logo but it was a sign for the studios. In short, what if you have a picture you took with your own camera? Would you have to be a registered user of Wikipedia to post it on your article? Also, would there be a chance you still wouldn't own the copyright to that image even if it isn't of something like a bumper sticker? Or, let's say you snapped a photograph of a town center to a very rural town where there are very few photographs available on the Internet: like Littleton or Lancaster, New Hampshire. They are high quality images and they are YOUR OWN! Would it be legal to offer your own picture, so long as it's an original angle and picture and no such replicas exist? Thank you for taking the time to read about this concern of mine.


 * I'm sure someone else can confirm this, but any images YOU take can be uploaded and used on Wikipedia. ---CWY2190TC 03:04, 5 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Depending on what you photograph, though, there can be a grey area. See, for example, Copyright FAQ. Basically, if there can be shown to be some "creative effort" involved in taking the photo (e.g. of a statue or building), then it's generally safe, but "slavish copying" (e.g. of an existing picture, or probably even bumper sticker) would not be good enough. That's my reading of it, at least (although that section deals with whether you can apply copyright to pictures of something in public domain, and it may be different if you're trying to apply a free license to a picture of something copyrighted - IANAL). Confusing Manifestation 04:03, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

help
how do i create a wikipedia entry/page?


 * Your first article should help-- $U IT  03:46, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

I want to be deleted
User User:Corvus cornix has no regard for content over photo issues and I want my contribution to Charlie Christian deleted and want my user:Erviltnec page deleted. I forgot to log in...64.24.4.167 04:17, 5 June 2007 (UTC)Now, this is me: If content is not all-important this work is sure to fail. Erviltnec 04:20, 5 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I can see you've been involved in a content dispute, and from what little I've looked at you seem to be at least slightly in the right. I would really urge you to reconsider, especially since (a) your contributions can't be deleted since they've been released under the GFDL and edited since then, (b) there are avenues for dispute resolution, which is what seems to be needed here (at least you did try to speak to the user directly, which was a good start even if they didn't seem to listen). However, if you really decide to go, hopefully someone will do what they can to meet your request. Confusing Manifestation 04:24, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Please explain how violations of fair use make this user in the right? Please explain how his repeated personal attacks make him in the right?  Corvus cornix 15:34, 5 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Can it be restored to my last edit, and blocked for a few days?Erviltnec 04:27, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * You do have the Right to vanish and your userpages can be deleted, just put db-userreq on them and an admin will delete them. Mr.Z-man  talk ¢ 04:30, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

c# program
write a program to create an interface "mathematics",having different member variable and function for adding,subtracting,dividing and multiplying two numbers and implement the above interface in a class


 * See the article on C#, ask on the Computing reference desk and do your own homework. Confusing Manifestation 06:54, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

charging
Will you charge us?
 * For what? Wikipedia is a free encyclopedia open to all users. E  talk 06:29, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes - we shall lead with our cavalry, led by Jimbo astride a donkey, screaming incoherently like a Tyrannosaurus and waving a plank with a nail in the end. Neil   ╦  12:39, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Hoodia
Hi. In article Hoodia, in the section Species there is a "Hoodia gordonii" - linked, but "Hoodia gordonii" isn't an article, but redirect to the... main "Hoodia" article. So, from "Hoodia" we are transfered to "Hoodia" again. I think the redirect from "Hoodia gordonii" should be deleted. Greeteings from Poland, Arek1979 09:07, 5 June 2007 (UTC).
 * Thanks Arek (or dzienkuje bardzo) - fixed! Neil   ╦  12:37, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

About abuses from Greek wiki.
Dear sir,

We are running an organisation for the protection of pedestrians' rights in Greece. We have created a movement called "streetpanthers" and we would like to have our organisation in the Greek version of Wikipedia. However, the moderator has erased our entry without having any specific reason. In addition, ther are similar entries into the english version such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_Mass.

We would like to know why our movement has been erased from the Greek wiki, with the reasonin that an encyclopedia shall not deal with such issues, while it contains say...pop artists bio and other stuff which is not also so educational as our topic.

We would like to know your views on this.

Kind Regards

Chris Mantas


 * We have no jurisdiction at the Greek Wikipedia, so we have little affiliation with the Greek administration. My best guess is that they believed that your organization was non-notable. However, it would be better to ask the deleting administrator. Sean William @ 12:09, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't know the rules for the Greek Wikipedia, but the English Wikipedia "suffers" to some extent from the same consequence of the requirement for reliable sources: it's fairly easy to find reliable sources for many topics that seem frivolous (e.g., Paris Hilton) and not so easy to find reliable sources for many topics that seem worthwhile to various people. For example, in the subject of bicycling, it is easy to find reliable sources about elite professional racing cyclists, and less easy to find reliable sources about the sort of bicycling most people actually do. Which is to say, a lot of encyclopedic content is not necessarily useful. If you want your useful content to appear on a Wikipedia, first you must persuade at least one author of those elusive reliable sources to write your content. The idea on Wikipedia is that we only write what has already been reliably written elsewhere.
 * Fortunately, there are many wikis. If the Greek Wikipedia does not want your content, you can find another wiki. See: WP:WWMPD. You can develop your content on another wiki, and if you get it into encyclopedic shape, you can try again on one of the Wikipedias. --Teratornis 17:26, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Page Move - GFDL question
A user recently moved a page, then made the new page into a redirect to the old, and copy/pasted the text back into the original title. The result is that the article is still on the original page, but the history is now on the new page. Is this something that should be reverted, or is the article's history being on the redirect acceptable? --OnoremDil 12:22, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * That sort of thing has to be cleaned up by an administrator, which can be a really big pain. I'll see what I can do. Sean William @ 12:23, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I didn't think it was supposed to stay like that, but wasn't sure if having the proper page move in there created enough of a record to be able to follow back to the history. --OnoremDil 12:28, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * If you come across this sort of thing in the future, you can alert administrators by placing on the page cut-and-pasted to. --ais523 16:44, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Europe-wide IEC 60309 system
We would like to ask where we can get the email address of EUROPE-WIDE IEC 60309 SYSTEM which has selling the product 3P+N+E (THREE PHASE WITH NEUTRAL ) and HAS A CURRENT RATING AVAILABLES ARE 16 A, 32 A, 63 A, 125 A And 200 A. This following products posted here.

Please email the answer to

Thanks, lut

removed e-mail Perry-mankster 14:01, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * This page is for questions about Wikipedia itself. I would suggest a Google search. -- Kesh 02:51, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Fair use images
What's the tag for getting fair use images not to show up in categories as previews, but just as inline links? Wily D 13:56, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * You can use __NOGALLERY__ on the category description page. --Strangerer (Talk) 14:09, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Does this mean I can't mix fair use and free images in a single category? Lame ... but alright, I'll try it.   Thanks. Wily D  14:12, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Proper image license for photo of murdered child?
Image:Cecilia.jpg

As prompted by a bot, I added the fair use rationale to this image of Cecilia Zhang, a girl who was murdered in Toronto. The image is included in the article about her killer, Min Chen. What fair use template should I use? Currently, I'm using "Non-free promotional", however it just seems ugly to classify a missing child in the same category as a product promo shot. Is there any like templates for the deceased? -- Zanimum 14:29, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * You could use when other templates don't apply. --Strangerer (Talk) 14:52, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

restrict searches and randomness to "featured content" only
Is there a way to query (via google or otherwise) for the "meta" tag in WP articles, in order to restrict searches to "featured articles" only? Also, is there a way to constrain the "random article" feature to get only featured articles? dr.ef.tymac 14:34, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Hm, I'm not sure how to search within just Featured Articles; maybe someone else knows if there is a tool that can help do that. You can look at Category:FA-Class articles if you want to just browse Featured Articles. --Strangerer (Talk) 14:55, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't think there's a way. You can look through archives of "Today's featured article" because the distribution of such articles is essentially random. 69.201.182.76 16:39, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Placing an image in an info box
I want to place the picture of Beckman High into the Beckman high page, but i don't know how to place the image in the info box. or perhaps the gray box is not called an info box?

nevermind I got it. Thanks!Ihertyou 15:26, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

images how to insert to pages
Can I please have the code. --Coallen 15:30, 5 June 2007 (UTC)


 * To add an image to an article simply add [[Image:Example.jpg|100px|right]] to an article, when doing this replace the Example.jpg with the image name you have uploaded via Special:Upload and you can change the 100px field &mdash; the higher this number is the larger the image will appear, you can also change the right field so if you want it to display on the left hand side of the page you would add left instead. Hope that helps! The Sunshine Man 15:44, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Can't create article
Hi:

I attempted to create a new article, but failed. I read all the instructions, the FAQs, the various Wikipedia pages and still failed.

I created an account. I logged into the account. When I clicked "create page" (I couldn't find "create articel"), I was cycled back to pages I'd already seen.

Sorry to be so dense.

What am I missing?

Thanks for your help. Ric Holt (account Holt) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.82.9.44 (talk • contribs)


 * Somehow you're not logged in. I see no edits by the account Holt, altho it does exist.  Try logging in again, I'd say. Friday (talk) 16:02, 5 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Try a couple of things. Suppose the name of your proposed article is "Balderdash".  Type Balderdash into the search box at the left.  You should see a redlink saying that the article does not exist.  Click on it, and an edit window will open where you can create the article.  Note that you need to have an account at least four days old.
 * If that doesn't work, try Articles for creation. 69.201.182.76 16:37, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

The account does not have to be 4 days old, any account is OK, for future reference. GDonato (talk) 18:21, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

new message alert won't go away
I recently edited a page as an unregistered user. My changes were edited and now a new message alert appears at the top of every page I visit. I have read the message and want the alert to go away. It does not refer to a new message any more. How do I do this?

(I've since registered as a user, but would still like an answer, because I don't always want to log in when I look at Wikipedia.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.171.207.28 (talk • contribs)
 * This is a bug in the software (sometimes the new-messages banner won't come up for users without an account, sometimes it won't go away). See 9213 for more details. Nobody seems to be sure what's causing it at the moment. --ais523 16:15, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I have the same problem. 69.201.182.76 16:33, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Science search
how do i make a science search


 * You start by specifying what you mean by "science search." If you have a question about a scientific topic, you could try searching Wikipedia for it. You could search the World Wide Web with Google Search. You could ask a reference librarian at your local library. You could ask your question on the Reference desk. If, instead, you are asking how to set up a vertical search on science topics, that would probably require you to have some computer programming skills, unless you can find someone or some search engine with such a search already set up that you can use. --Teratornis 17:31, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Trademarks
How does Wikipedia recognize Trademarks within the articles, such as "Coca-Cola" or "Pepsi". Why are there no Trademark symbols within articles? Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheBackpack (talk • contribs)
 * See Manual of Style (trademarks). PrimeHunter 17:06, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * One particularly amusing feature here is that the Wikimedia Foundation prefer people to say Wikipedia®, but due to the Manual of Style Wikipedia ignores this desire of a trademark owner the same way they ignore special treatment preferred by other companies. ('Wikipedia' is a registered trademark.)--ais523 17:09, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Contributions appearing on screen after edit
My contributions have been slow to show up on my screen. I hear a lot of noise, like popping popcorn, but unless I go back to where I was and then go forward to where the edited material appears, it takes so long it's as if I have dial-up.Vchimpanzee 17:20, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Try simply hitting the reload button on your page: sometimes it takes the server a second to make the updates. If that doesn't work, try taking taking the URL in your address bar, and add this to it: . For example, this page would be  . The Evil Spartan 17:40, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

AML and FML templates
Where radio station articles have links to radio-locator.com, these links appear twice. Vchimpanzee 17:20, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks. There was redundance with another template: I've removed the redundance in the first templates. The Evil Spartan 17:38, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

I noticed it had been fixed. I appreciate that. Now, with the AML template, there is no little square at the left now, and it looks inconsistent.Vchimpanzee 18:09, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

How to fix table on page "TENNIS Magazine's 40 Greatest ..."
If you look at the table on this page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TENNIS_Magazine%27s_40_Greatest_Players_of_the_TENNIS_Era

Notice how in the "Country" column, next to the names Graf and Becker, the German flag does not display correctly. Instead, you get "Image:Flag of Germany.svg", followed by the word "Germany". I can't figure out what's wrong in order to fix it, so I'm hoping that someone will be able to help!

Any ideas?

Thanks!

Tented 17:33, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Yikes, the problem appears to originate somewhere in the flagcountry template. I glanced at the template source, and it calls several other templates. Someone knowledgeable with templates could probably determine why flagcountry does not work correctly with a calling value of "Germany". It would be interesting to see whether other articles that display the German flag have this problem. --Teratornis 17:40, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Indefinetley BLock this IP Address
User:68.223.235.43. They keep doing harsh and offensive edits. They have already been warned anout 7 times. Someone please indef. block them. Also, I suspect Notenetkatie and User:Sam.cantrell is them(they edits the same things)

[]--71.96.238.177 17:51, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

❌ Replied on user talk. 69.201.182.76 22:08, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

My postings deleted Why?
I find that two of my posting on the page Talk:Ezhava has been removed. Is it done by the editor or by someone else? Is it because the posts are content rich and not mere repeatation of oft repeated themes.

My posts headings include: A general answer

Please give me an answer someone.

--Ved from Victoria Institutions 18:07, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * No, that is vandalism. Feel free to undo it. Though I would have to say that you would probably be better served being more concise, as people are more likely to read such material. The Evil Spartan 18:16, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * It helps to look at the edit history of a page. You can see who added or deleted what. The removal in this case was done by an IP user, which means it could have been anyone. They did not leave much of an edit summary, so there's no way to determine their reasoning (although Spartan is probably right in this case). This sort of thing happens every day. Several times a minute, actually. DarkAudit 18:20, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Can you please tell me how to undo the damage? --Ved from Victoria Institutions 11:30, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

In the edit history screen, click on a version that's not vandalized, which will take you to the archived page. Click on "edit this page", then save it, with an edit summary of something like "reverted vandalism". --Ashenai 11:32, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks everyone. Ashenai, I tried what you advised, yesterday. But by today, the page had been scrambled atleast five times. Can you or anyone help.

Renaming a category
How do I change the name of a category? Specifically I would like to change Category:Belgian animation films to Category:Belgian animated films. Thanks. Krikke 18:09, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Try the instructions at Categories for discussion. It will require you to set up a page for discussion. The Evil Spartan 18:19, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Copyright of a news photo of your property
What is the usage guideline for a photo of you or property you own taken by a newspaper? I have photos of my house after a fire in my sandbox. Those pictures were taken by me. What about the pictures taken by the newspaper while the fire was in progress? DarkAudit 18:11, 5 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm not an expert but I would have thought that the copyright on the newspaper's photos belongs to the newspaper. You have presumably not registered your house as a trademark, so you have no claim to images of it. IANAL. --YFB ¿  18:18, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I believe it's still copyrighted. You could provide a link to the newspaper article online though. The Evil Spartan 18:19, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

New entry
how do i create a new entry?
 * See Help:Starting a new page. Dismas |(talk) 20:06, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * You also need an account to create an article, if you dont have one create one or try Articles for creation. Regards Dep. Garcia ( Talk   + |  Help Desk  |  Complaints  ) 20:40, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * You might also want to read Your first article. -- Tλε Rαnδоm Eδι  τ  оr   20:44, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Copying.
I am having trouble copying the second pages of two-page Articles. I get a blank page, with only the heading printed. Can you please help me? Thank you.


 * I don't quite understand what you mean. Wikipedia articles don't have two pages. -- Tλε Rαnδоm Eδι  τ  оr   20:37, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

You're quite right, but when printing the Articles they of course can extend beyond a single page.

Role accounts
I know that role accounts are not allowed. In which policy/guideline is this prohibition spelled out (assuming it's spelled out at all)? --ElKevbo 20:21, 5 June 2007 (UTC)


 * What I believe you are looking for is WP:SOCK. -- Tλε Rαnδоm Eδι  τ  оr   20:35, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * That would be it. Thank you very much!  --ElKevbo 20:39, 5 June 2007 (UTC)


 * The essay on single-purpose accounts is certainly worth reading too. Will (aka Wimt ) 20:39, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * (after edit conflict) There exists also a general role accounts page at meta; although the page now references only the role policies of fr.wiki and en.wiki and is composed almost entirely of that which was previously at WP:ROLE, it should at some point serve to aggregate the policies across all projects w/r/t role accounts. Joe 20:43, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia/commons image conflict
The problem is that the second upload will not "overwrite" the first. Do I need to upload the new image to both projects? Do I need to delete the wikipedia version of the image? Help!? —Parhamr 20:34, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) An image was previously uploaded to wikipedia: Image:Series2004NoteBack_50.jpg
 * 2) An image was uploaded to the commons: Image:Series2004NoteBack_50.jpg

How about creating a different name for the 2nd image, such as 2004B? Other editors, please answer this after me.Feddhicks 21:13, 5 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Simple and straightforward but maybe clunky/inefficient … I suspect a better way exists —Parhamr 21:36, 5 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Probably not - when you enter [[Image:Series2004NoteBack_50.jpg]], the system looks first for an image of that name on en.wikipedia.org, and only if it doesn't find one does it look on Commons. It would probably be nice to be able to do something like, say, Commons:Image:Series2004NoteBack_50.jpg , but that just does this: Commons:Image:Series2004NoteBack_50.jpg. Confusing Manifestation 22:33, 5 June 2007 (UTC)


 * You can flag the Wikipedia image with the ncd tag, which will put a notice on the image saying that it also exists on the Commons. Also see WP:CSD.  It appears that the speedy deletion criteria exists only for bit-for-bit copies, though.  You can also list it at Images and media for deletion, and the process is listed in more detail there.  --Elkman (Elkspeak) 16:42, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Bond Girls
What the heck is going on ?

The photos on this article were all deleted because they were felt to be a violation of fair use.

Now somebody has put them all back - and preposterously claims to be the originator of them all !!!!!!!

Some of those photos have been on the Internet for years !

What is going on ?--Tovojolo 21:32, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * User:Howcheng deleted the images gallery but User:Stonedead put it back .  Personally, I feel that fair use does not qualify here since we are illustrating the Bond girls rather than each individual one, so I'll leave a message with User:Stonedead.  x42bn6 Talk Mess  21:39, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, I take it back, I think all of these are copyright violations. Image:Eunice drno-1.jpg can be found at, Image:SeymourJB-1.jpg can be found at  but the main site has a copyright on it, and I'm still looking.  However, for most of them, I can't seem to locate any other images on Google search, so WP:AGF tells me that they may well be the author's own - but they are promotional photographs.  But most are fair-use images so I'll remove the galleries.  x42bn6 Talk Mess  21:56, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I find it highly unlikely that User:Stonedead is the creator of all these photos of Bond film girls. See user's contribs.  They all are likely copyvio.  I am very busy at the monent, but suggest these images be tagged for deletion as copyvio.  &mdash; Gaff  ταλκ 22:32, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

All of Stonedead's images have been tagged with, and all of the images have been removed from the article as copyright violations. Corvus cornix 18:06, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Nanking film
I am trying to edit the Nanking film website and need to add some lines into the film credits. I have added names into lines that were already there. The names show up, but the new lines I create do not. What am I doing wrong? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.43.184.42 (talk • contribs)
 * This is probably becuase of the infobox on the page. I am not super familiar with infoboxes, but do not think that you can just add a new line like this for co-producer.  Maybe somebody else knows better? &mdash; Gaff  ταλκ 22:49, 5 June 2007 (UTC)


 * To answer your question, the reason is because The infobox template that is used, Template:Infobox Film, does not have a line called associate producer. You can't just add lines to the infobox. The template has to be edited so it understand what you mean when you type |associate producer=so an so. -- Tλε Rαnδоm Eδι  τ  оr   22:51, 5 June 2007 (UTC)


 * If no one would object I can fix the template. -- Tλε Rαnδоm Eδι  τ  оr   22:52, 5 June 2007 (UTC)


 * There is a short discussion at Template talk:Infobox Film. PrimeHunter 00:05, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

LIZA SHTROMBERG
I'm confused why the article LIZA SHTROMBERG was deleted with no discussion. It was not blatant advertising. The article was structured biographically and did not meet the speedy deletion criteria for having inappropriate content as it was written encyclopedic.

She is a famous jewelry designer. Her jewelry has appeared in magazines around the world. Her collections have shown in Paris and New York, are worn by celebrities, appear in movies, and Wikipedia has other jewelry designers with the same criteria i.e. Harry Winston and Tarina Tarantino.

In fact, I modeled this article after the Tarina Tarantino one. If you allow Tarantino a Los Angeles jewelry designer, it should follow that you allow other Los Angeles jewelry designers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pepperberry (talk • contribs)
 * I suggest cheking the deletion log of the page, then discussing this with the admin that deleted the page. Otherwise, see Deletion review. &mdash; Gaff  ταλκ 22:42, 5 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Another option to see why it was deleted, was if there was a discussion on if it should be deleted or not to go to it and see the consensus. -- Tλε Rαnδоm Eδι  τ  оr   22:55, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * You have spoken to the admin who deleted the article. As a non-admin, I cannot see what the article looked like.  My advice is rewrite with references/sources, then resubmit.  Or request deletion review.  &mdash; Gaff  ταλκ</b> 23:11, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Liza Shtromberg was speedy deleted in accordance with speedy deletion criteria #11: blatant advertising. If you believe she does in fact deserve an article, then please rewrite it in a neutral rather than promotional tone, using reliable sources that prove she is a notable individual. --tjstrf talk 23:09, 5 June 2007 (UTC)


 * What about an ABC News segment that mentions her and how would I incorporate that into the article? As an external link? If you watch this clip:



at 1:47 in the video they mention her by name. Is that considered reliable enough coming from a network newscast? - Pepperberry--Pepper Berry 00:17, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

posting an article
How do you make or post an article on wikipedia?
 * Look at Help_desk

about achieving talk page
I don't know how to achieve my own talk page. Can anyone tell me what steps I have to do? Thanks in advance. Chris 23:41, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I believe you mean archive. See WP:ARCHIVE for detailed directions on the various methods, but essentially you have two options:


 * Option A: Take a good chunk of your talk page, and cut and paste it to a page of the name format User talk:MYTALKPAGE/Archive 01, then link to it from your user talk page.
 * Option B: Press the "Move page" button at the top of your talk page, and move it to the new title User talk:MYTALKPAGE/Archive 01. Then edit your main talk page to not be a redirect any more.


 * There are a few other ways, but those are the main two. --tjstrf talk 23:46, 5 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks and sorry for the typos. Chris 23:48, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Capitalizing a title
In a band's article, the band's name is not capitalized in the title, when it should be. The first word is, but the second is not. How do I fix that? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ljplum12 (talk • contribs).


 * Replied on talk. --tjstrf talk 23:48, 5 June 2007 (UTC)