Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2007 June 7

= June 7 =

Images
I cant seam to use theme. Bluefire  princess  00:38, 7 June 2007 (UTC)


 * You might want to take a look at Help:Images. Is there anything in specific that isn't working for you? Hersfold (talk/work) 03:03, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Saving edits
Hi, I have tried to make some additions to the Temora entry. For some reason I am unable to save the updates - they appear in my edit box but when I save the page they don't show on the final version.

Cheers, Greg. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.172.117.4 (talk • contribs)


 * Your contributions show 8 recent edits to Temora, New South Wales. They are also shown in the history  of that article.  You may have to reload/refresh a page in your browser to see the latest changes. Your 8th edit was reverted by another editor. The link was already in the external links and we rarely link words in the main article text to external sites. PrimeHunter 02:55, 7 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Unless it's a link to a specific page that is the source of information for a sentence or paragraph or unless it's part of an infobox, we don't link them at all. - 131.211.210.14 09:00, 7 June 2007 (UTC)


 * It sometimes takes a moment for the changes to appear. Try waiting 10 seconds and pressing refresh. If that fails, try a forced reload (Ctrl+Shift+R on firefox, Ctrl+F5 on Internet Explorer). That explicitly asks for a new version of a webpage (normal refresh just asks if it's changed since last time). Finally, take a look at WP:PURGE for how to purge Wikipedia's cache. --h2g2bob (talk) 05:34, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Login problems -- June 7th
I am having problems both logging in using my regular password and changing the password after logging in with a temporary password received via an email. Logging in using temporary password appears to work. The message I am getting in both cases is "Login error: Incorrect password or confirmation code entered. Please try again.". This seems like some sort of a captcha problem. 24.87.50.201 03:58, 7 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Hmm .. I was able to log in using the new password. The sequence of events is this - click on 'email me new password' button in a login form, receive an email, enter the username and temporary (emailed) password, click login, see the page saying 'you have logged in using temp password, please change it', enter new password and its copy, click on a 'set password' button (or whatever its name was) and get a 'login error' page. At this point the new password is actually set, but it _looks_ like the password change did not work. Alex Pankratov 04:04, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

I too am suddenly and unexpectedly unable to login. I've clicked to have a new password emailed to me, but no such email has been received. Something appears to be wrong.
 * What goes wrong when you try? Does it log in but log you out immediately again? Do you get the error described above? --ais523 11:50, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

First, wikipedia should have remembered that I was already logged in yesterday. It instead says that I'm not logged in. So I go to the login page and enter the userid and password that I've had for the past while. I'm then told "Login error: Incorrect password or confirmation code entered. Please try again." on a page where I can try again, now augmented with a captcha. Trying again seems like I've been caught in an infinite loop. I click on the button to email a password and am now told "Login error: A password reminder has already been sent within the last 24 hours. To prevent abuse, only one password reminder will be sent per 24 hours." I'm still waiting for the original password reminder to arrive by email.

Image:Sitel_logo.gif
I have an incomplete fair use tag at Image:Sitel_logo.gif. Aside from the two obvious fields, what am I missing from the tag in question? --Sigma 7 04:34, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Try asking at Wikipedia talk:Fair use criteria because the folks there have more experience than I do. Basically, you should try to add a sentence saying that the company logo is a critical part of the article, and there's no way to obtain a free imagee that gives the same information.  Another idea is to examine the image page history, and ask the user who tagged the article as problematic what is the issue. Yechiel Man  05:38, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

HOW?
I'm somewhat technologically disadvantaged which is true for the HOW of editing articles and adding pictures. (It's a function of age not intellect.) I've clicked on several topics on your left scroll menu but find it of little help. Please...is there a tutorial that I can use to walk me through the "How To's" or can someone create a simple list of the functional hows and whys for me? Regards, Pat terKuile


 * Hi Pat, have you looked at Introduction and Tutorial yet? These should give you a basic introduction to editing Wikipedia, and they also provide you with some sandboxes to practice in. If that doesn't help, just post another question here and I'm sure someone will be willing to walk you through the basics (I'd do it myself but I'm rather strapped for time just now). Adding images is a little trickier than adding text but follows some similar procedures, so you should only really look at the Image tutorial once you've got a bit of basic familiarity with editing. Confusing Manifestation 05:34, 7 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Also see Instructional material. I recommend the MediaWiki training videos. --Teratornis 13:56, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Page deletion
hey why was my page deleted?? i dont understand?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rrogerse (talk • contribs)
 * If you could name the page in question, I might be able to tell you why the page was deleted. E  talk 06:38, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * See Why was my page deleted? 69.201.182.76 09:32, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

how do i upload a image
how do i upload a image ,i tried from the wikimedia commons says you have to log in in order to upload images ,i did that come back saying error username not right. but it is cause when i go to the home page it has my user name on there at the top and says logged it but when i typed that same user name on the wikimedia commons page for upload images it wont take the username the password is also right


 * You can't use your English Wikipedia account on Wikimedia Commons or any other Wiki project for that matter. You have to create an account on Wikimedia Commons. You can upload a image onto Wikipedia from either "File upload wizard" under "interaction" or "Upload file" under toolbox, both to the left of any Wikipedia page. --Silver Edge 07:49, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Bot-assisted archiving of my talk page
I have tried, recently, to tag my user talk page for automatic archival by werdnabot. I understand that werdnabot is down now, but shadowbot3 is described as "archiving those talk pages which would have been archived by werdnabot", so I figured I might still be able to do this. However, it doesn't seem to be working. Can someone give me a hand with this? Did I fill out the template incorrectly? And if not, is there some other way for me to set up automated archival? Charlie 08:28, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * At the moment, you have it set to archive posts more than 45 days old. Given that the oldest post on your page is from May 22, you haven't hit that age yet. You can either change that "age" setting so that it archives more frequently, or just wait. -- Kesh 19:32, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

relation
i want to kwon abou interdependence between plants and animals —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.93.166.131 (talk • contribs).


 * This question should be taken to the reference desk, as the help desk is for questions relating to using Wikipedia, as opposed to doing research. Charlie 09:10, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

British Library Food Stories
The British Library has recently launched an interactive entitled Food Stories, which traces the changes that have taken place in UK food culture over the last century. It's great! Because it relates to a number of different food orientated subjects, I'd like to put a link on quite a few Wikipedia pages. Could you let me know the maximum number of pages that I am allowed to add this link to? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jenwren83 (talk • contribs)


 * Greetings! There is no "hard limit" on how many pages can have an external link to a certain site.  However, I would caution against adding the links to a number of pages, unless those links serve a specific purpose to improve the articles.  Check out WP:EL for more information. Charlie 09:16, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

citing Medical Science references (edit: or any reference)
Medical science is carried out around the world and published in many journals and languages. Pubmed lists only references from peer reveiwed journals. and requires the Summary details in English language, and where possible the Abstract. Sometimes the only evidence to support a statement may be such a listing. Is it acceptable to cite in wiki, Pubmed referances where the main article may be in another language, but the findings clear in the summary or abstract?Jagra 09:55, 7 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Hmm... that's a good question! I think this begins to answer your question, but doesn't quite deal with all of it.  You may wish to seek broader consensus, via the talk page of whatever article you intend to edit.  Cheers!  Charlie - talk to me - about what I've done  10:04, 7 June 2007 (UTC)


 * [] This wikipedia guideline on editing style states

English-language sources should be given whenever possible, and should always be used in preference to other language sources of equal calibre. However, do give references in other languages where appropriate. If quoting from a different language source, an English translation should be given with the original-language quote beside it. VK35 17:37, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

User:TTN and his supporter User:Ned Scott
A lot of people and I have problems concerning user User:TTN. We all need your help. He/She (don't know the person's gender) is callously deleting articles (escpecially episode articles) with little warning, and he is alienatng thousands upon thousands of Wikipedians. He and his supporters claim they're doing the right thing, but the other Wikipedians, including myself, say othewise. Well, I call your attention to here and here. That should explain everything. I am SICK of TTN and his/her followers. Everyone I have ran into is freakin' sick of this--whoever. TTN doesn't even add anything to his/her userpage and is very stuck-up and arrogant! Angie Y. 11:18, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * See Deletionism. See WP:WWMPD. Search WikiIndex for: television. That finds several wikis, including The TV IV. Wikipedia is not the "only game in town." Wikipedia does not want to be a general-purpose information appliance. Many people who are passionate about a particular subject area will find Wikipedia frustrating, because subject area enthusiasts will tend to value content according to its usefulness, but usefulness per se carries zero weight on Wikipedia. On Wikipedia, the primary criterion for judging content is whether it can be reliably sourced. That severely limits what we can write here, because finding reliable sources for what we know (or what we think we know) is often difficult, possibly requiring the skills and resources of a reference librarian. Many editors start with an idea and only later look for sources (for example, after deletionists clobber their work), but that's not the best way to edit on Wikipedia. Instead, here we should start with sources, and write about what we find in them.
 * Wikipedia needs to be selective because Wikipedia is by far the most popular and visible wiki in the world. Smaller wikis which specialize in particular topic areas (for example, The TV IV) are more concerned with adding content rather than destroying it. If you are an enthusiast in a particular topic area, you should direct your primary energies toward building a wiki that caters to your interests. You should also recruit your fellow enthusiasts to join you. There you can develop extensive content with less worry about people deleting your work. Later, after you have developed and refined your content, you might get some of it into encyclopedic shape, and you can try adding it to Wikipedia.
 * The psychological distress you naturally feel at seeing your work on Wikipedia obliterated will be considerably less if you know your work still exists on a (relatively) safer haven. So, while I have not researched User:TTN's heavy-handed editing activities sufficiently to form an opinion of who is complying best with Wikipedia policy in this dispute, I urge you to find your TV enthusiast's equivalent of Amish Paradise and start enjoying your life. --Teratornis 13:52, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Could I humbly suggest other helpers at this desk should be be cautious in their descriptions of other editors? In the instances where I have disagreed with TTN, I have found the editor to be very reasonable. Also, I gather from the user page, that s/he is mergist not deletionist. Finally, I gave Ned Scott a barnstar for his good faith efforts in finding a reasonable compromise regarding TV episodes, where several articles were sourced and kept, while others were merged. Thanks! Addhoc 14:00, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

That doesn't help. What does help is getting this idiot off our backs! He's been charged with vandalizing articles by deletion. That's not what Wikipedia is all about. Angie Y. 13:59, 7 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Our comments were written at virtually the same time, and I gather you were responding solely to Teratornis. Regardless, you are obviously aware that you shouldn't refer to other editors as 'idiots', which is uncivil. Thanks, Addhoc 14:05, 7 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Angie, the Help Desk generally answers your questions about using Wikipedia, but this is a content dispute, you cannot propose changes to a guideline here. Though I could understand your point, I hope you consider keeping yourself cool in response to this disagreement. It is really not helpful to accuse another editor of "vandalizing". Also, I might add, it isn't their fault to not "add anything to his/her userpage". I suggest you join the debate on the talk page of WP:EPISODE calmly and consider reading Consensus decision-making. My two cents. Peacent 15:03, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

I already tried being cool-headed. And apparently, it didn't work. My suggestions fell on deaf ears. Angie Y. 15:45, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Have you followed the steps in Dispute Resolution? Corvus cornix 16:36, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Note to Angie Y.: I think my advice does help. I was involved in another content dispute that was initially heated, then cooled down considerably when topic enthusiasts discovered they could write their non-encyclopedic content on another wiki. I think it's a lot easier to deal with Wikipedia when you have another more receptive outlet for your work, because then you don't feel cornered. See: WP:CYC. And as far as what Wikipedia is all about, it is about deletion to a remarkably large extent. I saw a factoid that Wikipedia deletes about 2,000 articles per day, and perhaps more often than not, articles get deleted without any serious effort to suggest alternative wikis to the article authors. That's why I started this section: WP:WWMPD. Everybody who creates new articles on Wikipedia needs to be aware of the rather low probability of getting new articles to "stick" here. Wikipedia itself does not seem to make this obvious enough, until deletions happen. --Teratornis 19:16, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Turning title words into uppercase.
Hello. I just wrote an article and left some words in the title in lowercase which should be uppercase. Can I correct this without moving the article?

Thanks, M


 * Please remember to sign your post on talk pages by inserting ~ at the end. The page will have to be moved to correct capitalisation. Hope that helps! The Sunshine Man 12:03, 7 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Sorry (forgot) and thanks! -- megA 12:14, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Would like to delete category
There is nothing listed in Category:Former Illinois state highways. How do I delete the category? DandyDan2007 11:39, 7 June 2007 (UTC)


 * You cannot delete the category, only user with administrator tools can do this, you will have to take it through WP:CFD or if its empty tag it with db-c1. Hope that helps! The Sunshine Man 12:01, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Forgot to login
I just posted a completely new version of Minkowski diagram. Unfurtunately I forgot to login. Is it possible to delete the 2 top edits by an anon from the history? Sorry for that and Thanx. --Wolfgangbeyer 11:44, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * It's technically possible, see WP:OVERSIGHT, however it's not likely to be done unless there are some very serious privacy issues at stake.-- VectorPotential Talk 11:54, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * There's such a thing as non-oversight revision deletion too, and that's exactly what I've done to the page. (It was decided on the admin's noticeboard a while ago that edits by anons should be deleted from the history on the request of an associated user as long as it doesn't disrupt copyright; the self-revert by the anon and re-revert by the registered user was exactly the correct thing to do, as it allows the anon edits to be deleted without disrupting the history.) This isn't as complete as oversight, as admins can still see the IP and/or undo the deletion, bt it should be sufficient in such situations (as VectorPotential has said, oversight is reserved for very serious privacy breaches). --ais523 13:52, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you again :-). --Wolfgangbeyer 14:35, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

User leaving unfair warnings?
One user seems to be leaving warnings on my talk page in regards to my attempts to improve the William Gaillard page. I firmly believe that my edits have been made in good faith and have helped to provide some much needed balance to the article, am I wrong? He has already recieved one warning for entering into a edit war with me over this page, I dont make many contributions to wiki at all and am unsure how to resolve this. Edcoomber 14:13, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Instead of continuing to revert edits, it's a good idea to explain why you're making your edits on the article's discussion page (Talk:William Gaillard) and ask the other user to join in with you with the discussion there, regardless of who's in the right. See Dispute resolution for the steps you should take if that doesn't solve the problem. (As for the warnings, probably putting a note under them as to why you think they're incorrect is best; removing them is 'legal' in some sense but discouraged.) --ais523 14:32, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Changing double redirects
I'm sorry I'm a little confused about the instructions for ensuring there are no double redirects after moving a page. I changed the page titled SMARTBoard to SMART Board interactive whiteboard, and I believe there are double redirects according to the description you've provided, but I can't see how to fix it. Can you provide some additional assistance?

Thanks, -Carolyn


 * Please remember to insert ~ at the end of your messages and that will automatically produce your username/IP and the date and time. I've fixed all the double redirects to the page that I can see. Hope thats helps! The Sunshine Man 15:01, 7 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Just so you know in the future: when it says to "check" for double redirects, it's actually giving you a list of the pages that link to SMARTBoard. Just make sure none of the links on that page says "redirect".  If they do, then edit them so they redirect to the new page.  Hope this helps!  tiZom<sub style="color:black;">(2¢)  15:07, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Navigational Boxes
Hello

I have created a Navigational Box for Universal Sufism, how do I create the " ((Universal Sufism)) " to put into an article instead of copying the whole of the navigation box content every time?

Thanks

Alevi26 07-06-2007 16:08 UK


 * You create a template page at Template:Universal Sufism, and move the entire content of the box over there. Then you transclude the template to the article by typing .  I'd be happy to do it for you if you want.  Just let me know.  <b style="color:#08457E;">tiZom</b><sub style="color:black;">(2¢)  15:13, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Could you do one for me? What I've got so far is on Universal Sufi Prayers, but I wanted it to be all Light Orange or Saffron colour with white writing if possible???

Alevi26 08-06-2007 01:53 UK

My page wastaken down
I have the copyrights to all of the pictures posted on the page Catherine Saxton; however,I was told that I plagiarized the pictures and the page was taken down. How do I getmy page restored? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Catherine Saxton (talk • contribs)
 * You released the images as 'permission to use on Wikipedia only', which is not a sufficient licence; pictures you own the copyright to yourself must be released under a free licence (see commons:Commons:Licencing for the explanation that Wikimedia Commons, which hosts many of Wikipedia's free images, uses). Note also that your userpage was blanked by User:Saxtongroupltd, which seems somewhat suspicious; are you the same user? (If so, read User talk:Saxtongroupltd to see the warnings that you've been sent that explain what's been going on, and also read the username policy.) --ais523 15:29, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi, yes I am User:Catherine Saxton and User:Saxtongroupltd.,I did not realize you could not work from two accounts. Is there anyway to get my page restored? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Catherine Saxton (talk • contribs)

Web browsers
what is the 2 main web browers that we use in the US?


 * See Usage share of web browsers (wow, this is an encyclopedia too!?) --Kainaw (talk) 16:11, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Xaverian High School
Xaverian High School has a page on wikipedia, but repeated attempts to delete content that cannot be verified are being hampered by the wikipedia staff or some of its editors. wikipedia cannot verify that the names being submited are indeed graduates of the school or are indeed within the profession that they supposedly say they are engaing in or are famous for a particular act. It baffles us that you allow content ot be added and angered that it is deleted even if it cannot be substantiated. We realize that the page is about the school and that we do not own it but you must realize that some high school students will do or say anything to denegrate the school. Verbal graffiti if you will. We must maintain some type of credibility and not just allow to post content under the guise of free speech.

John L BianRosa Technology Director


 * We try to patrol pages for vandalism, but do occasionally make mistakes. If there is something you're trying to do to the article, but it keeps getting removed as vandalism, you might want to try discussing it on the talk page so people know what you're doing. You could also take a look at the page history and try to discuss things with the person who removed your edit. They probably have a reason for doing so, which will often be stated in the edit summary. Hersfold (talk/work) 17:51, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

changing the font color of....
is there a code for changing the font color of you work ? or does it stay black? Signeddarkness 15:41, 7 June 2007 (UTC) signeddarkness

Yes, there is. Here you go:


 * Enter the code   before the text.
 * Choose the color (see also Web colours)
 * Enter the text
 * Enter the code    after the text.

 Help Desk 
 * Overall, your code should look like this:

Help Desk
 * The result should look like this:

I hope this helps. Peacent 15:46, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict) You can change a font colour, like this . ~


 * (edit conflict) You can change a font colour, like this . --ais523 15:47, 7 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Although, I can't think of very many reasons why this should be done in an article. Dismas |(talk) 15:48, 7 June 2007 (UTC)


 * (lots of edit conflicts!)
 * You can do any of the following:
 * This is gray text
 * Text output: This is gray text
 * OR
 * This is gray text
 * Text output: This is gray text
 * OR
 * Text output:
 * Hope that helps. <b style="color:#08457E;">tiZom</b><sub style="color:black;">(2¢)  15:52, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Hope that helps. <b style="color:#08457E;">tiZom</b><sub style="color:black;">(2¢)  15:52, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Color blindness
For red-green color blind people (10% of all males!) the colors for the comparison of article versions are very difficult to recognize. Single changed words in paragraphs are nearly impossible to find. In the german Wikipedia therefore I wrote my own monotype.css for changed colors. But in the english Wikipedia it seems not to work. See User:Wolfgangbeyer/monobook.css. Underlining links and changing link colors works well but the last 2 commands

*.diff-addedline {background-color: #FFFFFF; color: #9F9FFF;} *.diff-deletedline {background-color: #FFFFFF; color: #9F9FFF;}

have no effect at all. In the german Wikipedia at least "color: #9F9FFF" works but "background-color: #FFFFFF" has also no effect. Is there any solution?

I like to suggest in general to chose colors which can be distinguished for all people. A bright blue background for instance for changed words would be perfect. This way changed blanks would also be recognized. Unfortunately I have not the time to discuss this with the programmers – but 10% of all males would be happy ;-). --Wolfgangbeyer 16:15, 7 June 2007 (UTC)


 * You might want to present your suggestion to the Tech Village Pump or the developers at Bugzilla. We're not able to help much with technical suggestions. It's also possible that a different skin, chosen in your preferences, may help you see the differences a little better. Hersfold (talk/work) 17:45, 7 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I just found the correct syntax:

.diffchange {background-color: #FFFFFF; color: #9F9FFF;}


 * Makes me happy! Unfortunately I have not the time for discussions with the programmers. But is it possible for an admin to add an additional skin in Special:Preferences called "For colorblinds" based on User:Wolfgangbeyer/monobook.css? I guess there are not many users who are able to install a monobook.css. Most of them are even not aware of such a possibility at all. --Wolfgangbeyer 18:42, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Content box
How do you add a "content" box? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 360wes (talk • contribs)


 * Do you mean an infobox, if so take a look at Infobox, that has a large directory of infoboxes. Hope that helps! <b style="color:#2E82F4;">The Sunshine</b> <b style="color:#2E82F4;">Man</b> 17:01, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Talk pages in article merge, use of templates
So. Shemale was merged to Transwoman. What is the best way to make the archives at Talk:Shemale available at Talk:Transwoman? Currently there is no mention at all. Should they be merged to the Transwoman namespace? Should there be a second archive box placed at Talk:Transwoman? Please advise. I would certainly appreciate a transparent teaching lesson more than "It's done, you're all set". "Teach an editor to fish", and all. Thanks! Joie de Vivre 18:11, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Edit! I see something similar has been done at Talk:Pro-life. It looks like someone merged the other articles' talk pages to the Pro-life namespace. Could someone explain the procedure? I would love to do it myself. Thanks! Joie de Vivre 18:16, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Questions: I see that Talk:Pro-life utilizes the template. I see that the talk pages from the other articles were indeed merged to the Pro-life namespace.
 * 1) Should I be saying "the Talk:Pro-life namespace" instead of the "Pro-life namespace"?
 * 2) Is there a way to use the template instead?
 * 3) The talk pages from the other articles that were merged to Talk:Pro life only had one archive each. In what I want to do, could I add a slash afterwards, to signify separate pages of the Talk:Shemale archive, because Talk:Shemale has multiple pages?
 * 4) Can anyone take a look at the archive box visible at Talk:Child sexual abuse, and explain what I did wrong?

Thanks!! Joie de Vivre 18:26, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

This problem is solved, and a new (minor) problem is discovered. Please see. Thanks! Joie de Vivre 19:13, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Facts too indirectly related to an article to belong in the article
Where do I find policy on facts that are too indirectly related to an article to belong in the article? I see Edit Summaries—and I do some myself—such as "that is really about person... [whomever] and not about the topic of the article". But I am not able to find a policy to refer people to on this. —WikiLen 18:13, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Formatting error
Something's gone wrong here: Nottingham - if one clicks on any link in the middle column of the first section (Within the City of Nottingham), the section jumps, instead of following the link. Once the section has jumped, if one clicks on any link in the middle column of the second section (Around the City of Nottingham), the first section jumps again! If one keeps doing this alternately, eventually the "Within" section will jump so much it will return to it's normal state, with not one clicked link performing it's function correctly.

What's going on here? And how can it be fixed? — <font face="Verdana">Jack · talk · 18:33, Thursday, 7 June 2007
 * I don't see what is causing this problem, but that is an interesting effect. I noticed in Mozilla Firefox if I right-click a misbehaving link and select "Open link in new tab" it does the right thing. I tried copying the whole peculiar section Nottingham to another MediaWiki wiki, and I get the exact same behavior in the edit preview. Thus whatever the problem is, it seems to travel with the section. --Teratornis 19:35, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

search history?
Is it possible to keep a search history for my searches with Wikipedia? The history for internet explorer just shows the general Wikipedia site. It would be helpful to me (bad memory) if there were a history available.
 * You may be able to use a Desktop search program such as Google Desktop, although I have no idea if you will find one that does exactly what you want. It's probably worth a look. --Teratornis 18:56, 7 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Try switching to Mozilla Firefox (you can download it here). It's free, easy to use, and has many features that iliminate the pesky problems like the one you're having. — <font face="Verdana">Jack · talk · 18:55, Thursday, 7 June 2007


 * P.S. please sign your posts with four tildes, like so: ~

Alpha transparency
How do you create alpha transparencies in pictures? Do you need a specialised program? I was looking to make the background of Image:Nottinghamshire Ceremonial Numbered.png transparent — <font face="Verdana">Jack · talk · 18:50, Thursday, 7 June 2007


 * Most programs can do it. I use GIMP. --Kainaw (talk) 18:54, 7 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Can Inkscape do it? I've wrestled with that program so much, and I just can seem to get it to do what I want. The best I can manage is paint — <font face="Verdana">Jack · talk · 18:58, Thursday, 7 June 2007


 * Inkscape is for vector-based graphics. It is possible, but likely difficult, to edit a bitmapped graphic (like a PNG) in Inkscape. --Kainaw (talk) 19:09, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Questions about Talk page templates
Thanks for your help! Joie de Vivre 19:21, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) See Talk:Transwoman. There are two archive boxes.  If you click on one of the archive links in the lower box (the archives of Talk:Shemale), the ATNhead template has a redlink.  This is because the namespace it directs to is a subspace of the main namespace.  Is there a template that can be used instead, or a way to alter the template so that it works in subspaces?
 * 2) See Talk:Child sexual abuse. The problem with the template is explained in the archive box; how do you restore the self-populating action?
 * 3) See Template:Archives. The template only can handle up to 20 automatically-added archives.  I know they can be added manually to Talk:Article name/archivelist, which the archives template uses to automatically populate the list, but I do know that if you mess with that page (by creating it) (see question 2), it stops working.  Is there a way to get around this?
 * 4) See Talk:Transwoman. There are two archive boxes.  Is there a way to use the archives template for both sets of archives; without screwing up the way that archives are automatically displayed on the page as they are created?

search history?
Is it possible to keep a search history for my searches with Wikipedia? The history for internet explorer just shows the general Wikipedia site. It would be helpful to me (bad memory) if there were a history available. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.225.56.132 (talk • contribs) 15:26, 7 June 2007

for correction
I am giving you a link regarding correction in that map. "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:South_asia_local_lang.PNG" In this map the name of province Sindh Pakistan is not written in its native language sindhi but is in national language urdu,kindly please change my province name in sindhi alphabetics and correct.i cant provide you the name in that language because i am not having that fonts available now, but you can easily get that from any of sidhi website.For prove check the article "sindh" on wikipedia and confirm that the word sindh appears different from that which is on your map in sindhi and add the word and write complete"sobo sindh" in sindhi or if you are not getting that i will provide you later if you gave me a positive response on my email "email removed" Yours sincerely : Zaheeruddin Nizamani

Removing delete notices
How do I remove a delete notice on a page I just updated? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Meade009 (talk • contribs).
 * You can remove all the text from " —{{dated prod|concern " until " generated by "subst:prod|reason" --> ". However, that means that anyone can challenge your removal, and it may go to articles for deletion.  To avoid that, don't just remove the notice - remove it and improve the article so it asserts its notability.  For the process of "PROD"ding an article, see proposed deletion.  x42bn6 Talk Mess  19:33, 7 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, that depends on what type of delete notice it is. See this page for a description of different types of deletion, and what to do if you disagree with the article's deletion.  Also, please sign your future posts with four tilde's, to automatically add your signature.  (Like this: < ~  Charlie - talk to me - about what I've done  19:35, 7 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I've removed the prod tag, the neighborhood seems notable enough, and have explained my reasoning to the prod nominator. Corvus cornix 20:17, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

sandbox
can i save my work in the sandbox without it showing up on Wikipedia? thank you.
 * Changes to the sandbox will temporarily remain for all users to see, until the Sandbox gets reset. It usually doesn't last too long, but I wouldn't put anything up there you don't want people seeing. -- Kesh 19:42, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * You can however create your own sandbox which will not be reset and unless you inform others of its existence, won't be seen by other users. Simply put "User:your username/sandbox" (with your username in place of "your username" in the example) into the search bar and hit Go.  When it says that there is no such page, simply create it with any material you don't want others to see.  Then you can go back to that page to edit and such until you're ready to transfer it to a public article space.  Dismas |(talk) 19:55, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Where is the (Move) button?
There is small grammatical error in the Among Grizzlies page, the G in Grizzlies is lowercase while it needs to be uppercase, this is causing people not to be able to find the page. I read the directions on Moving a page to change the title, but I can't find the Move button.
 * In order to deter vandalism, you don't have the ability to move a page if your account is less than four days old. I suspect this is the case since you did not sign your question using four tildes ( ~ ).  After that time, it will be at the top of the screen next to the history tab.  See also Requested moves.  Dismas |(talk) 19:51, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * P.S. I've moved the page for you.  Dismas |(talk) 19:52, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Assistance through the economic transition
I made a recent contribution to the webpage with a section called "Assistance Through The Economic Transition".

I don't know why it is no longer posted but I am the source. I work for DC government as the program manager for this neighborhood program. You will find about this program in listserves such as columbiaheightsnews.org, or by calling District Government's Department of Small and Local Business Development (DSLBD) at 202 478 1343.

If there is a salient feature about the neighborhood of Columbia Heights that is not mentioned in the current article, it is the vast changes, social and economic, taking place in this part of the city due to the very large investments in it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alejandroyepes (talk • contribs)
 * See WP:WWMPD. --Teratornis 20:59, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually you seem to refer to this section: Columbia Heights, Washington, D.C. which seems to be in a bit of a revert war. --Teratornis 21:03, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Who writes Wikipedia?
Hey, im doing a project and i would like to know if you can inform me of who edits and writes for this site? thank you very much Angie,
 * Everyone and anyone. -Wooty [Woot?] [Spam! Spam! Wonderful spam!] 21:22, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * See: WP:VFAQ and WP:VFAQ. --Teratornis 21:24, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

introductions by Henry Morley
I have foun a book of essays of Francis Bacon which has a intro by Henry Morley. Would like to know more about them both. THANK YOU ROGER H.
 * If by "both" you mean both of those men (rather than, say, both essays or something), start by reading Francis Bacon and Henry Morley. This is, after all, an encyclopedia. --Teratornis 21:25, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Inappropriate Content Banner
I'm just curious, is there a banner that you can put on Wikipedia pages that says "inappropriate content" or something like that? If so, what's the code?

Thanks, exubersapein.


 * Wikipedia is not censored. Corvus cornix 22:03, 7 June 2007 (UTC)


 * CC is, of course, quite right. If you mean, though, that you're looking for a template you might append to an article or section to suggest that contains content inappropriate for the encyclopedia (either in substance, e.g., as comprising trivia, spam, irredeemably and plainly/unnecessary unencyclopedic POV); or in style, e.g., as written in informal or second-person prose), you might try one of the templates situated at the eminently complete mainspace disputes, maintenance, or cleanup pages.  Joe 04:19, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

user warning template
Hey, is it alright to make my own user warning template or can only admins to that? Thanks. '''Cheers, JetLover (Talk) (Sandbox) 22:10, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * What subject do you want to create a template for, that is not already covered by an existing one? Corvus cornix 22:32, 7 June 2007 (UTC)


 * It would be a warning not to redirect articles to nonsense things. '''Cheers, JetLover (Talk) (Sandbox) 22:37, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Does Template:Nonsense not suffice? Corvus cornix 22:39, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I mean like someone taking a good article and redirecting it to something like "poopy" or something. '''Cheers, JetLover (Talk) (Sandbox) 22:43, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I'd just give them a vandalism tag, like Template:uw-v1. Corvus cornix 22:54, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Typically, for purposes of consistency (for example, in WP:AIV, to avoid questions of whether or not a given template constitutes a "final warning"), it's best to use an existing template. Note that you can add text after the end of the template, either with an "argument=" parameter, or just typing some more after the  text.  You can always make an additional template for that text, à la " the weather in London " producing:


 * Please stop. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, you will be blocked from editing.  Redirecting pages is especially-disruptive to the common readers of Wikipedia.  Jouster  (  whisper  ) 23:03, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

how do I...
how do I get my forgotten password back if I can't get it emailed back because I didn't put in my email? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.205.147.53 (talk • contribs)


 * See Help:Logging_in; I'm not sure who would qualify as "direct access to the database", however. Presumably developers, possibly a couple other groups.  Jouster  (  whisper  ) 22:54, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I believe developers are the only group. --<font face="Perpetua" size="3"><font color="Blue">Tλε Rαnδom Eδιτor (<font color="Black">ταlκ )  02:45, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks, but how do I get in touch with them, and when I do how am I going get them to beleive that I am who I am?209.205.147.53 17:56, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Scieno Sitter cnote
The article Scieno Sitter explains "dev-t" using a cnote, which is something I've never seen used in Wikipedia before. It seems very appropriate to communicate the information in question, but the cnote itself seems to be a bit bugged; it has multiple &lt;ref&gt;s within it, which might be the cause. Regardless, if someone could look at the article in question and perhaps rework the cnote for better display, create a "dev-t" article on the basis of it, or replace it with a Wiktionary crosslink and move its contents to that Wiki, I'd be very appreciative. Jouster (  whisper  ) 22:50, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

submitting an entry
I have been trying to submit an entry for Brookside Adolescent Psychiatric Unit. It is saved and visible on my contributions page, but when I use the search box it says the page doesnt exist. I've clearly missed some step out - how do I get the page to be visible - or does it ust take a few days?--Philipch 23:35, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * According to the deletion log:, User:Pilotguy deleted the page because it was not notable. You should contact Pilotguy to disscuss the deletion and to resolve this situation. In addition, you may want to read the notability page. -- Hdt83 <font color="blue" face="Arial">Chat 23:39, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I see you have already talked with Pilotguy in March. Your contributions show edits to User:Philipch/brookside. This is a user subpage where the editor can work on drafts. It's not a part of the encyclopedia and it's not included in normal searches. Also note that the search can take days to index new articles. PrimeHunter 01:13, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Editing
Hello, I made no mention of the nature of my editing when correcting 12-Hour Clock. In the introductory paragraph, after numeric 11, I added after deleting two lines 'Time periods run 12:01 through 11:59 either ante meridiem or post meridiem.[1] When referencing twelve o'clock the phrase is either noon or midnight, without the ambiguity.' In the 12-hour clock table, I added the word midnight and noon when referencing those time periods and deleted 12:00 p.m. and 12:00 a.m. due to my noted reference who 'maintains the standard for frequency and time interval for the United States, provides official time to the United States, and carries out a broad program of research and service activities in time and frequency metrology.' The first external link someone else added and is actually a paraphrased news release of my reference and should have been used as the creators third party reference even though found on the NIST's web site. See my reference to view the original verbage. I edited without previewing, but will not do in the future. There are grammetical errors still in this piece which I ignored. Thank you, Lisa Barner —Preceding unsigned comment added by Betwixt Words (talk • contribs)


 * Thank you, but you do not need to explain your edits here. Everyone can edit as much (or as little) as they like. --Kainaw (talk) 23:47, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * A better place to elaborate on your edits to a page is on its talk page. In this case that would be: Talk:12-hour clock. Read the talk page guidelines first, and please sign your edits on talk pages. Note that the case of the 12-hour clock article title differs from what you mentioned; see WP:TITLE for an explanation of Wikipedia's unusual title case convention. Also, I can see by viewing the wikitext of your question (actually your comment) that you may be trying to format your wikitext as if it is plain text, i.e. by inserting manual line breaks. MediaWiki ignores single line breaks in ordinary paragraph text (line breaks can have syntactic meaning in lists and so on). See Help:Editing for more details, or just keep editing until you figure out how it works by trial and error. --Teratornis 03:31, 8 June 2007 (UTC)