Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2007 May 4

= May 4 =

Lyrics in an article?
Are song lyrics allowed in Wikipedia articles? I'm asking because someone posted the English translation of "I Forget" from Serenada Schizophrana, and the only place that provides the translation for "I Forget" is the official Serenada Schizophrana website. --Releeshan 19:22, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

How to tag a page?
I ran across the page Roderick J. McDavis, a new article. It needs a lot of editing and I would like to see what a really good editor would do with it. Where do I go for this type of assistance? Thanks in advance. --Stormbay 01:49, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Well, one of them is Example:, you can find more at Template messages. Hersfold (talk/work) 02:31, 4 May 2007 (UTC).


 * To be more specific, cleanup templates are located at WP:TC. If the whole article is a pile of junk, but contains enough useful information to keep, then tag the article with cleanup-rewrite. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hersfold (talk • contribs) 02:30, 4 May 2007 (UTC).

Over the speed of light?
According to Einstein,it is impossible to go faster that the speed of light.Well, what if I speed an proton in an acclerator up to near the speed of light then let it knock into a electron, since the mass of a proton is 1870 times more than an electron, will the electron be acclerated to more than the speed of light? or is this unfeasible? 61.228.88.23 10:02, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps.-- Joshua Say "hi" to me!What have I done? 10:14, 4 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Particles near the speed of light will become heavier, hence less acceleration. - Mgm|(talk) 12:13, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Account deletion
How do i delete my wikipedia account? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kccavalier (talk • contribs).


 * Since you have made some contributions, your account cannot be deleted.  Jacek  Kendysz  10:29, 4 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Jacek is right, however you can have your talk page deleted using, if you wish. See also WP:VANISH PeaceNT 11:33, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Category for Natascha Kampusch
I've been looking to submit Natascha Kampusch as a good article candidate. However, exactly what category should I submit it in? Hanuab 10:30, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * It doesn't appear to fit any of the nomination categories, so when in doubt, stick it into the "miscellaneous nominations"-category. - Mgm|(talk) 10:40, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Operating system screenshot
This is screenshot of BKUNIX, a GPLed operating system. But it also contains some output by computer's ROM including bootup messages, indicator string at the top of the screen and the font of the letters is also ebeeded in ROM. How should I proprly provide the license information?--Dojarca 07:39, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Rasterized uses of fonts (what you get when you take a screenshot) can't be copyrighted, so that's one problem out of the way. The current tag is probably fine; if the information from your ROM isn't relevant to the article the image is in, you could however consider editing it out of the image, to make sure that the licence given on the image description page is correct. Hope that helps! --ais523 12:12, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * If the use of font cannot be copyrighted, then the copyright tag is incorrect since the letters are the result of output of copyrighted software embeeded in ROM and the tag is either inappropriate or needs correction.--Dojarca 13:35, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree that the ROM output is probably copyrighted, but if so, you may not be able to use the image at all without editing it out (because it wouldn't be fair use in the right article). --ais523 13:39, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * This is necessary to indicate that the program is really executed on BK rather than any other computer and shows the process of bootup. We have already a screenshot of Vilnius Basic with "service string" at the top. But service string is partially result of BK rom-embeeded "Monitor", a rom-embeeded BIOS-like program rather then the basic system itself. But filtering out the optput of the basic itself makes no sense since the combined output on the rom-embeeded basic and the rom-embeeded monitor make well-recognized and famous splash/prompt screen. Another issue is that if the font output cannot be copyrighted as you say, the tag still necessarily needs correction.--Dojarca 13:49, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * If the platform you ran it on is relevant to the picture, the correct tag is, followed by an explanation of why it's important that the picture contains the copyrighted text. --ais523 14:07, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Can you please explain why using rasterized copyrighted fonts cannot be copyrighted?--Dojarca 14:11, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

How to make the box with all the info of the game in it.
I really need to know how to do this, due to the fact that I'm making a Far Cry Instincts Evolution page soon and i need the info. Longshotz 11:22, 4 May 2007 (UTC)


 * There is already a page named Far Cry Instincts Evolution with the infobox. What's exactly do you want to make? PeaceNT 11:26, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Speedy delete - too speedy!
Hi I wrote a short article on Arthur Wesley Wheen, it was tagged for speedy delete and removed before I had a chance to argue my case. What the chances of having it re-instated whilst we debate its merit?

Briefly my arguments for inclusion: Wheen is included in The Australian Dictionary of Biography. Wheen was the recipient of significant, recognized awards (Rhodes Scholar, 2 x Military Cross) His most widely recognised contribution is as translator of All Quiet on the Western Front, but he was well known as a member of the Bloomsbury Group in London and is often cited by his contemporaries (Eliot, Joyce etc).

He is mentioned elsewhere on Wiki (eg on the All Quiet on the Western Front article), so he seems to me an eminently suitable inclusion.

Thanks! Kirst68 12:02, 4 May 2007 (UTC) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kirst68 (talk • contribs) 12:01, 4 May 2007 (UTC).
 * Are you sure that was the title (capitalization counts)? I can't find anything in the deletion log by the name of Arthur Wesley Wheen. Did you include all those arguments in the article? - Mgm|(talk) 12:27, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Aha, you posted at Arthur wesley wheen. While someone did tag it for notability concerns, the administrator gave the following deletion summary in the deletion log: "G12 copy of http://www.adb.online.anu.edu.au/biogs/A120511b.htm; the subject is notable and this is not an A7". The codes he mentions are detailed at WP:CSD, but to explain. It was deleted as a copyright violation of the text on the mentioned website. If you can write an article in your own words it indeed deserves to stay. Both me and the deleting administrator agree on that. - Mgm|(talk) 12:35, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

I don't think my text is similar to the entry in Aust Dict Bio, so I'm going to try re-posting it, this time with proper capitalisation in the title! Thanks. Kirst68


 * You need to discuss re-posting with the deleting administrator first. Reposting of speedily deleted articles without significant re-write qualifies them for speedy deletion under CSD G4. Hersfold (talk/work) 15:05, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * No it doesn't: "This clause does not apply...if the prior deletions were proposed or speedy deletions, although in this last case, the previous speedy criterion, or other speedy deletion criteria, may apply." Basically, it would be redeleted (if it is indeed copyvio), just under G12, not G4. Veinor (talk to me) 16:25, 4 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I looked at the new article Arthur Wesley Wheen and http://www.adb.online.anu.edu.au/biogs/A120511b.htm and I feel that your article encompasses much more and I do not think it is a copyright violation. I commend you on the article. But I think you should check How to edit a page and Be bold in updating pages. Hope I helped.  AVTN  T  CVPS 17:02, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Editing a page
Plgallo 12:56, 4 May 2007 (UTC)How do I make a correction on a page. I have found incorrect information on a page about the Mercury Seven Astronauts. Wally Schirra flew on Apollo 7 not the ill fated Apollo which was destroyed in a launch pad fire killing the three astronauts aboud it. Plgallo 12:56, 4 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Simply click on the 'edit this page' tab at the top of a Wikipedia page. Also, take a look at How to edit a page. And be bold in updating articles! :-)  Jacek  Kendysz  13:02, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Wraping around images
Refer to Sex and the City current page. In the 'Overview of Characters' section the image is to the right of the first character paragraph, but below it is a large white space forcing the entire second character paragraph to the left. I have, to my satisfaction, confirmed that this is because the image enters into the vertical space of that paragraph, and also I think I am satisfied that a paragraph like the second, with a '*' at the beginning, will not wrap around an image. Confirm, explain, or whatever - the extra white block I would prefer to get rid of. --Dumarest 13:54, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I think it is something that just happens. When looking at the syntax I don't see any different between other images on other pages.  AVTN  T  CVPS 16:52, 4 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Make sure you are watching at fullscreen resolution and not in a small window. When you are watching a page in a smaller window, the layout can easily get smashed up. _ Mgm|(talk) 22:38, 4 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Nope, something is special about that next block, with the start as


 * Charlotte York

Note that initial character. A paragraph with that will not wrap. Compare a later image on that page, Region 1 Edition of Complete Set, near the bottom. It goes into the next paragraph, which wraps. Now go to the first image and pull in the sides of the window - when it is narrow enough, so the text takes more lines, at some point the text of the first paragraph extends beyond the bottom of the image, and boom! the extra white space below the image disappears. It is that marker of the paragraphs at this point in the article. --Dumarest 11:12, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Free?
Are screenshots of Wikipedia pages free or copyrighted? - Super48 14:07, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * The Wikipedia logo is copyrighted by the Wikimedia Foundation, the text in the page is copyrighted under the GFDL, and the interface is copyrighted under the GPL. See Wikipedia-screenshot for more information. --ais523 14:09, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Also, if the screenshot includes pictures, the copyright will be derived in addition from the copyright on each of the pictures. Notinasnaid 15:53, 4 May 2007 (UTC)


 * It's just semantics ais523, but everything is copyrighted to its owners. What you're trying to say is how the various parts of Wikipedia are licensed. Licenses are what give people the permission to use the material under certain conditions. Copyright is the right the creator/owner has on the material. - Mgm|(talk) 22:37, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

How do I nominate an IP for blocking?
Hi there. IP Address: 209.7.38.9 is a school address, apparently, but a current user from that source keeps repeatedly defacing Klinefelter's syndrome. I keep reverting, but it's not really helping, and I'm afraid of triggering some 3RR bot. What can we do to get this editor to stop? --MalcolmGin Talk / Conts 14:11, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * First of all make sure that the user has recived a recent final warning before he vandalized again If the user has had a recent final warning then report him to the WP:AIV, an admin will then look it over and if appropriate, block the user.. If you need help reporting to the AIV then ask me on my talk page. - M s c h e l 14:28, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Looks like they've desisted, so I'll leave it alone for now. --MalcolmGin Talk / Conts 15:17, 4 May 2007 (UTC)


 * An alternative is to protect the article. Which won't affect other users from the shared IP. - Mgm|(talk) 22:35, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Deletion of versions from page history
I was reading about the HD DVD encryption key controversy, and I saw that there have been numerous times that the encryption key has been added to articles on Wikipedia. These keys have been removed promptly by users and administrators, but they still reside in the versions in the page history, which doesn't really solve the problem. Is there a way that we can propose versions to be deleted from page histories, so that the keys are removed completely from Wikipedia? I've been looking for a way to, but I haven't found any yet. Please help! After all, the more DVDs that are illegally decrypted and downloaded, the higher the price becomes that those who obtain movies legally have to pay for them.

-Kadeas 15:19, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I couldn't agree more fully with your good intentions behind wanting to do that, but I don't think that it would be done. It might well be technically possible for an admin to do it, but I have only heard of this being done for sensitive personal information that violates an individual's privacy and/or safety. The fact that admins had previously reverted the edits, but didn't remove the history, would suggest that this is the case. Adrian   M. H.  16:26, 4 May 2007 (UTC)


 * It is possible to remove individual edits from the history of a page, but this permission is limited to a very few users (less than thirty, I believe). The permission is called "oversight" and more information can be found here. Carom 16:34, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Individual revisions can be selectively deleted from the history by any admin. They will then not show up in the regular article history, but will be available to any admin with a few extra clicks. To remove them so that they are gone forever requires the much more limited Oversight process, as Carom mentions above. Thst said, I doubt that such history deletion would be undertaken unless the Foundation's lawyers stated that it was required to protect wikipedia from legal liability. The history sections are not indexed by search engines, which is one of the major reasons for short-term deletion. Note also that a number of editors feel that the deletions even from the visible article are improper, and that requests have been made of the foundation's legal staff to say whether such deletions are legally required or advisable. Much will depend on what response, if any, the legal staff makes. DES (talk) 17:44, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm curious as to the source of the claim "the more DVDs that are illegally decrypted and downloaded, the higher the price becomes that those who obtain movies legally have to pay for them." That statement implies at least two assumptions that hardly seem self-evident:
 * That if piracy were stopped, sales would increase. (They might, but by how much? Where is the scientific research?)
 * That if sales increased, vendors would lower the unit price, rather than enjoying higher profits. (Would they? Did they say they would?)
 * For example, China is said to allow piracy on a massive scale, in theory depriving Hollywood and other content providers of USD billions per year. Once upon a time, before the enabling technology appeared, citizens of China pirated very few movies. Were hundreds of millions Chinese citizens at that time paying dutiful tribute by buying tickets to watch Hollywood films, at the same price Americans had to pay? Somehow I doubt that; for starters, real wages in China were many times lower than in the United States. I suspect piracy itself stimulates artificially high consumption of content by making it available to pirates at a very low price. For vendors to translate all that consumption into sales, they would probably have to cut their prices low enough to compete with piracy, that is, to perhaps the cost of the physical media plus a small fractional royalty.
 * But would vendors cut their unit prices? Sales of DVDs have increased over the years, but the unit price to the consumer has remained relatively fixed. There is no market pricing on recorded movies per se, because each movie is under the monopoly control of a given vendor. Consumers may choose which movie to watch, but they cannot buy a given movie from multiple vendors who compete on the basis of price (consumers can buy a movie from different retailers, but all the retailers have to pay about the same wholesale price, limiting what they do). When a movie tanks at the box office, the vendor does not cut the price on its DVD to stimulate sales. Instead, the movie industry behaves like an oligopoly, setting a fairly constant price for all recorded movies, largely without regard to the sales of individual titles. Movies that sell in high volume cost about the same as movies that barely sell. Thus the movie industry has given no reason to suspect it would reward consumers with lower prices if they stop pirating. If anything, content providers might raise their prices if consumers had no option of pirating.
 * Think about it. If citizens had no ability whatsoever to cheat on their taxes, how high would taxes be? In the short run, tax rates might decrease, because tax revenues would no longer be lost to cheaters. But in the long run, a government would be strongly tempted to keep incrementally raising tax rates, because it would not have to worry about encouraging more cheating, and because demand for more government services is always unlimited. (See for example the endless stream of advocates parading to Washington to demand more public spending for their pet causes.) Currently, there is some upper bound on the maximum tax revenue which can be extracted from a given population, because as the tax rates go up, cheating goes up, and at some point the incremental loss from cheating (and government attempts to fight cheating) exceeds the incremental gain from higher rates. Similarly, it may be that piracy is keeping a lid on the price of legal movie DVDs. Certainly, before assuming it is or it isn't, we would need to do some serious independent research. We should be skeptical of trade groups such as the MPAA as we once were of the Tobacco Institute.
 * Of course this digression about whether the MPAA acts as the selfless guardian of the public interest has little to do with the issue facing Wikipedia as to whether we should publish an illegal number. Given that the illegal number is widely available elsewhere, I don't see a compelling reason why Wikipedia needs to have a dog in that fight. --Teratornis 18:51, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks for all of your input. I don't mean to get into an argument about the ethics of piracy and its effect on the economy, I'm only trying to prevent such piracy from occuring, because it is, after all, illegal. However, it looks like I won't be able to do anything anyways without the help of an Admin, or someone with the Oversight capability.
 * -Kadeas 15:19, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

How do you make your information written about "open organization" show up in on either google or Wikipedia's search engine?137.82.118.5 16:32, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
Thanks to anyone who has an answer to this one.My email is email removed
 * Please do not include your email on talk pages...If you have written or contributed to an article on Wikipedia that information will automatically be highlighted by the Google search engine. The Wikipedia search feature searched titles and then coincidental content of articles if no title exists. If you have created a webpage on the internet, it will not be found by the Wikpedia search feature but should be found in the results of a Google search. Scottydude talk 16:49, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Be aware that Google indexes the World Wide Web according to its own schedule. Some time may elapse before Google Search results begin to reflect changes to a Wikipedia article or any other site. As far as anyone on the Help desk knows, there is no way for us to influence Google's indexing schedule. You just have to wait. However, if you created an article such as Open organization on Wikipedia, it should show up more or less immediately on Wikipedia itself. If it does not show up in the Wikipedia search feature, at least links to the article name should be blue instead of red. If you created an article and you don't see it now, it may have been deleted. If that is the case, see Why was my article deleted? I see nothing in the deletion log under your IP address, however. Please be more specific about what you mean by "your information" - is that a Web page, an article, or what? Give us the exact title and URL you are talking about. --Teratornis 19:05, 4 May 2007 (UTC)


 * It'll show up there automatically in a few days or so. It takes Wikipedia a few days for it to show up with use of the "Search" button, but it will show up right away with the use of the "Go" button.   Th e Tr ans hu man ist    21:51, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Subpages
Is there a way to get the main article from a page if it's been sub-paged numerous times (e.g "User:Rock2e" from the page "User:Rock2e/Test/Test"), is there some code or a magic word that will do this. Thanks in advance.--User:Rock2e Talk - Contribs 16:50, 4 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Your question isn't very clear. Are you looking for a link to the main page? Because normally when you go to User:Rock2e/Test/Test This is what comes up below the title:

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

< User:Rock2e | Test


 * And they link back to your higher pages.  AVTN  T  CVPS 16:57, 4 May 2007 (UTC)


 * The question is ambiguous because of the ambiguous words "get" and "main article." If "get" means "link to" or "display the name of" (from the sub-(sub-...)page) (presumably under the editor's control, i.e., the editor wants to place the link in some arbitrary location), and "main article" means "top-level parent page (of the sub-(sub-...)page", then the question has a definite meaning, and one which appears to agree with the parenthetical example given. If that's what the questioner meant, then indeed there seems to be a problem, because the list of available magic words in Help:Magic words does not seem to have an entry that evaluates to the name of the top-level parent page of a sub-sub-...page., for example, evaluates to the name of the immediate parent page, not the top-level page.   evaluates to the name of the sub-(sub-...)page) itself, without all the parent names, and   is the full name of the sub-(sub-...)page) itself, with all the parent names. What you would like to do is, somehow, do a string subtraction like:   -  , if that were possible. ParserFunctions does not seem to help, as it appears to have no string functions. There is a StringFunctions extension, but it is not installed on Wikipedia.
 * There might be a tricky way to do it, by setting up a (direct) sub-page of the top-level parent page, placing a  magic word there, and then transcluding that page into the sub-(sub-...)page) in a way that preserves the result of evaluating the   magic word on the transcluded page. I don't know whether that would work or could be forced to work, because I haven't played around with transcluding pages which contain magic words. I don't know whether the magic words evaluate according to the level of the page which does the transcluding, or at the level of the page which is being transcluded. But that is probably what I would investigate first if I were the hapless editor trying to do this. --Teratornis 17:33, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I assume, of course, that simply hard-coding a link to the page you want is not an option. --Teratornis 17:43, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, hard coding won't work :( but thanks for the advice and sorry about the ambiguousity of the question, I think I've found another way and I'll try it out. Thanks so much for all the help :)--User:Rock2e Talk - Contribs 18:12, 4 May 2007 (UTC)


 * While engaged in RTFM on another issue, I noticed Help:Link, which links to this interesting example: Link/a/b. If you know the depth of your sub-page, you can link to its ultimate parent with code like  (that gets the parent of the parent of a sub-sub-page, for example). If the current page is not a sub-page at at least the depth necessary for that link to work, the link code itself appears on the page, like this: ../../ (which shows up as plain unexpanded code on the present version of the Help desk, but when this question archives to the page: Help desk/Archives/2007 May 4, this question will appear on a sub-sub-page of sufficient depth to make that link evaluate the parent of the parent of the sub-sub-page). If you are trying to write code that can work on a sub-sub-page of unknown depth, but known to be no deeper than some reasonable number of sub-page levels, you might be able to use a sequence of   constructs to determine the deepest relative link that links to an actual page, which would presumably be the ultimate parent. Be aware that it is possible to make a sub-page of a page which does not exist. That is, you can make a page like SomePage/SubPage even if SomePage does not exist, and I'd guess the   test would not distinguish between a red link vs. unexpanded link code. --Teratornis 14:37, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Changing organisations
I'm destubbing EngenderHealth and American Eugenics Society, and looking for some best practice for dealing with organizations that have in their existence significantly changed, both in name and content. Do you name the article the founding/current/most likely searched name? What when using an infobox? Opening wording? ... etc.

More so, because with this subject, the way you deal as editor with the (dis)continuity of eugenic elements is vulnerable to POV/debate. maarten 17:01, 4 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I think you should say that the organization has changed their function. Don't just remove the old function, rewrite it so that it says it has changed. You should also speak to people on the talk page of the article and the major contributers (if there are any) before making any major edits to the article.  AVTN  T  CVPS 17:05, 4 May 2007 (UTC)


 * AVTN is right. What they used to do is historical information worth saving. Write about both what they did and what changed so the article is as comprehensive as it can be. - Mgm|(talk) 22:32, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Article name of album
What is the guideline for titles which have an article about a song as well as an album, like Unwritten? Often, an album is named after a song, and both the song and the album have an article, but it is unnecessary to make a disambiguation page when there are only two entries. One can be linked to at the top of the most prominent article. But which article is considered more prominent, the one about the album or the one about the song? Salaskan 17:23, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * See the relevant WikiProject, under: WikiProject Council/Directory/Culture/Music. --Teratornis 17:36, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I see an example at: Tarkus and Tarkus (song). As to which is considered more prominent, that would probably depend on the example. There might be a case in which the title track was a big hit and the album was considered relatively weak, and another in which the album itself sold well but the title track did not. --Teratornis 17:41, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Easy way to know amount of edits you've done
Is there a code or markup that will let you know how many edits you've done? -- s u m n j i m  talk with me·changes 18:13, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Hello, different edit counting tools are listed at Tools. Interiot's "Wannabe Kate" is a good option, for example. --KFP (talk | contribs) 18:17, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

How do I remove a Clean-Up Heading from an article?
There's no cleanup tag that I can see... How do I get the cleanup heading off of the article? Julieannesmo 20:47, 4 May 2007 (UTC)Julieannesmo —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Julieannesmo (talk • contribs) 20:47, 4 May 2007 (UTC).

When you click to edit the article, you find a inside saying clean up, then you remove the  and "clean up".Hope that helps, Cheers!--Trampton 20:55, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Although the article itself (E. Jean Carroll) is not the best that I have ever seen, I suspect that the editor who added the cleanup tag may have been thinking more specifically; namely, the ref format. I have tagged it accordingly and provided links on the talk page. Adrian   M. H.  21:20, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Leather?
i would like to no how would i go about odering some yards of Louis Vuitton leather —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.117.252.216 (talk) 22:57, 4 May 2007 (UTC).
 * Try their website. John Reaves (talk) 23:03, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Contributions page can no longer be changed
I lost the abilityy to automatically convert the number of contributions on a page beyong 50. How do I change it to 100, 250, or 500 now? DanTD 23:38, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * This question is hard to understand. Are you speaking of the links on a history page that normally let you display different numbers of edits? If you can't click on the links now, you can manually edit the history URL. What do you see when you click on this? --Teratornis 01:43, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I can't manually edit my contribution history. That's the problem. I don't see any numbers in the URL for it. DanTD 13:51, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * What do you see when you click on this? If you can't get to a URL like that by clicking, you have to manually edit the URL in your browser's address bar. To do that you would have to know the structure of the MediaWiki URL you want, which you do now if you can click on the link I just gave. --Teratornis 14:41, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * You can also edit a magic word like this:
 * which evaluates to:
 * Of course that does not explain why you can't click the linked numbers that normally appear on a contributions page. I still see (and can click on) the numbers on your contributions page, for example. I'd suspect the problem has something to do with your browser. You might see Browser notes and Browser issues with MediaWiki. --Teratornis 14:53, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Of course that does not explain why you can't click the linked numbers that normally appear on a contributions page. I still see (and can click on) the numbers on your contributions page, for example. I'd suspect the problem has something to do with your browser. You might see Browser notes and Browser issues with MediaWiki. --Teratornis 14:53, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Of course that does not explain why you can't click the linked numbers that normally appear on a contributions page. I still see (and can click on) the numbers on your contributions page, for example. I'd suspect the problem has something to do with your browser. You might see Browser notes and Browser issues with MediaWiki. --Teratornis 14:53, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

What do do next?
My deletion review failed, and there is no other correct wiki to put my article on, so now what? Deletion Quality 23:41, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I assume you refer to Articles for deletion/Smashboards and Deletion review/Log/2007 May 4. It might be suitable for the wiki AboutUs.org. PrimeHunter 00:28, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * It's already (apparently bot generated) at http://www.aboutus.org/SmashBoards.com. You can edit that. PrimeHunter 00:37, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * What is the source for the claim "there is no other correct wiki to put my article on"? There are so many wikis that it is hard to imagine what sort of article could not find a wiki home somewhere. Maybe if you rolled your head across the keyboard a few times to generate text, then invited the neighbor's cat to walk on the keyboard to add finishing touches, nobody would want that, but if the article is at least readable, it can probably go somewhere. In addition to the AboutUs.org entry you got without even trying, you can search WikiIndex. That turns up Smash Wiki, which might have something to do with your article (I can't be completely certain, as I cannot see your article, now that it is deleted, only the deletion discussion, but the comments there suggest your article was about the games that Smash Wiki covers). As a general rule, the world of gaming seems to be especially thick with wikis. When gamers learn to edit on wikis, they gain a skill that prepares them for serious work on corporate wikis, helping them to salvage something with objective value from hours otherwise frittered away on pointless games. --Teratornis 03:54, 5 May 2007 (UTC)