Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2007 September 12

= September 12 =

Can't view images
When I use Wikipedia the pictures no longer appear. This is not the case for other Web sites. It just seemed to start happening when I go to Wikipedia. Am I the only one with this problem? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Inklebarger (talk • contribs) 00:38, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * You may not be the only one with this problem, but images are working fine for me (and probably for most people viewing Wikipedia just now). This problem comes up on the Help desk from time to time. It may be because you accidentally did something to tell your Web browser to stop loading images from Wikipedia. See Problems FAQ and Browser notes. --Teratornis 01:44, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * For example, in Firefox you can select Tools | Options | Content, and manually block images from any Web site you specify. There may be some way to accidentally set that option for a site you are viewing (for example, Wikipedia) by bumping keys on your keyboard (or letting your cat walk across the keyboard, etc.). Check your browser settings to make sure you don't have images blocked for Wikipedia. --Teratornis 01:55, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * On some occasions, people have had problems because the way images are stored has resulted in some of them having URLs containing /ad/, which as you might guess can be interpreted by a content filter as being an image for an advertisement, which it then blocks. If there is an image that doesn't appear for you, can you right click on it, click on "Properties" and see if that is the case? Confusing Manifestation 02:02, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * You can also try purging your cache. to fix it. -- Hdt 83     Chat 04:11, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

THANKS! I CHECKED THE OPTIONS ON FIREFOX AND THE IMAGES WERE BLOCKED. WEIRD. THANKS AGAIN. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Inklebarger (talk • contribs) 00:09, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

== Discussion Page Link Faulty (I think) =

(This question is complex enough that I don't know how to search for an answer to it.)

I was on a page and I wanted to go to the Discussion Page for it, I clicked Discussion, and got the Talk page for a related page instead of the Talk Page for the page I was on in the first place.

Specifically, I was on the Spontaneous Combustion page, clicked Discussion, and got the "Talk:Spontaneous Combustion disambiguation page.

I realize the Spontaneous Combustion page and the Spontaneous Combustion disambiguation page are related, but aren't they supposed to have separate Talk pages? I'm not sure if there is a wrong link or if I'm doing something wrong. Help please.

Second question, since Talk page and Discussion page seem to be the same thing, why use two different names? Just curious. Thank you.

Wanderer57 00:43, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * The Talk:Spontaneous combustion page is a redirect to Talk:Spontaneous combustion (disambiguation). To see the redirect page itself, click here. See Help:Redirect to learn how redirects work. As to why Talk:Spontaneous combustion is a redirect, check the page history. I can't make sense of the edit summary, so you would probably have to ask the user who did that (User:Clicketyclack). In my opinion, redirecting the talk page of an article that is itself not a redirect is, shall we say, undesirable because of the obvious potential for confusing people. It's pretty confusing just to write what's going on with that page.
 * As to your second question, as far as I have been able to tell, "talk page" and "discussion page" are the same thing (see: Help:Talk page), and if so, this would be an instance of what I call "synonym disease." Synonym disease is an ergonomic shortcoming, because it burdens the new user's short term memory with a meaningless detail: the new user must waste scarce mental resources determining that two different words mean exactly the same thing, rather than two different things as one would tend to expect. In a well-designed system, there is a one-to-one correspondence between terms and features (or functions). That is, for each "thing" in a well-designed system, there is one and only one unique term for it. I used to think that "page" and "article" constituted another instance of synonym disease, but then I learned that "page" and "article" are not the same: every article is a page, but not every page is an article. See WP:WIAA to learn about the difference. --Teratornis 01:31, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I should add that once a new user has become an experienced user, instances of synonym disease have moved into long term memory and therefore no longer seem to be a problem. This is one reason why experienced users of any technology (or language, social convention, etc.) don't generally get too upset about the various inconsistencies, exceptions, and other bits of complexity-inflating untidiness that make their knowledge harder for the novice to learn (look at the horrendously non-phonemic spelling in the English language not to mention all the irregular verbs, but do experienced English speakers want to clean up their inherited mess? No way). Since long term memory appears to be effectively unlimited, in contrast to short term memory which is exceedingly scarce, the functional difference between an experienced user and a novice is fundamental and vast. Experienced users typically exert the most influence on the further evolution of a system, and thus the system tends to evolve in directions that favor the experienced users (giving them more power and flexibility based on ever-increasing complexity) rather than the novices (making the system easier to comprehend using only short term memory). Check out the Editor's index for an interesting (or somewhat appalling, depending on your point of view) overview of the current state of Wikipedia's internal complexity. --Teratornis 15:45, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

How to tag\mark a page suspected as containing commercial substance
Hello...

The page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quench, at the "External links" section contains a link referring to a commercial company, how if at all, should I mark the page as "suspected as containing commercial substance" ???

yar

Yar2 00:44, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Normally, you'd add cleanup-spam to the top of the article, but I'd just remove it, since the user who added it has already created an article about the company in the link that was deleted because it was promotional. I say be bold and take it out of the article. Cheers,  A r k y  ¡Hablar!  00:57, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

pre-empting an edit war
There are two (possibly three) users who are getting into an edit war in domesticated hedgehog over the external links. All three are new, so this is a matter of ignorance, not a true edit war. I've explained on their talk pages nicely and sternly that they must use Talk:Domesticated hedgehog to discuss the issue and come to consensus instead of repeatedly reverting each other. Because I feel that they are ignoring their talk pages, I do not think that this will help. What is the next step? I don't like the idea of blocking users because they simply don't know what to do. One was already blocked because I couldn't find any other way to get her to stop and read her talk page. Should the article be temporarily protected? --  k a i n a w &trade; 00:55, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * You should probably go ahead and report this at the administrators' incident noticeboard. If you think the page ought to be protected, list it at requests for page protection. GlassCobra (talk • contribs) 08:45, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * See: WP:EIW for links to pages that describe everything an editor could want to know about content disputes (other than how to win them, I suppose). --Teratornis 15:33, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Mumbai Suburban Rail Network
Hi,

I was wondering if you can send me a copy of the Mumbai Suburban Rail Network which you have in your pages titled Mumbai Suburban Railway as an image.

I tried to look at the same elsewhere but its not available and neither can I either copy or extract the image. You can alternatively send me the address/url of the image that can be downloadable or further delved into. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pgang (talk • contribs) 01:46, 12 September 2007 (UTC)


 * It is an image. It is a Scalable Vector Graphics (SVG) format image.  Chances are, you are using a web browser that is not capable of viewing SVG images and/or you don't have a program that can open and view an SVG image.  See the SVG article for a list of web browsers that support SVG and a list of applications that work with SVG images. --  k a i n a w &trade; 01:52, 12 September 2007 (UTC)


 * It sounds to me like Pgang can view the image at Mumbai Suburban Railway but cannot save it to the harddisk. What is your browser? Try right clicking on the image and select a point called save image or something like that. Here is a direct link to the image in SVG format: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5e/Mumbai_suburban_rail_map.svg. Here are direct links to the image in PNG format with different sizes: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5e/Mumbai_suburban_rail_map.svg/180px-Mumbai_suburban_rail_map.svg.png (small), http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5e/Mumbai_suburban_rail_map.svg/588px-Mumbai_suburban_rail_map.svg.png (large). Do you still have problems? PrimeHunter 02:06, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Images deleted
Several images along with the article Garlows have been deleted. I am the author and originator of all images and the article, Garlows. After learning that an external link in Garlow was inappropriate. I immediatly removed it. I don't understand why the images were deleted. All of the work is mine. Nothing copied from any where that is not mine. Can you fix this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kemetianmotif (talk • contribs) 01:59, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Glancing at your talk page, it appears you didn't copyright tags to your pictures without that its impossible to know if you own the rights to the picture or took it from someone else. Wikipedia can not legally take pictures from other websites. According to your talk page you took photos from, without written permission, Wikipedia is not allowed to post such pictures. Hopefully that helps explain it better. Tell me if you're still confused. Thanks -- Mr.crabby   (Talk)   02:24, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Template that automatically adds to category
How do I make a template automatically add an article on whose talk page it has been transcluded to a category? A.Z. 03:55, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Uh, I'm assuming you're saying how to make a template that will add a category to a talk page when the template is transcluded? -- Hirohisat Kiwi 04:01, 12 September 2007 (UTC)


 * As far as I know, this is not possible. You can have the template add the talk page to a category (lots and lots of templates do this), but having a template on a talk page affect the categorization of the article is entirely different. -- Rick Block (talk) 04:04, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * '''(edit conflict)
 * If you put the below coding into a template any pages with that template transcluded into it will automatically be added to the category.
 * There is currently no way to add a page to a category by adding something to the talk page. -Icewedge 04:05, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * There is currently no way to add a page to a category by adding something to the talk page. -Icewedge 04:05, 12 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you. That's what I was looking for, but I thought it would add the article to the category, not the talk page. A.Z. 04:38, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

ARC
ARC - Airport Regions Conference - is an association of European cities and regions that host major international airports. The common concern of ARC and its members is to balance the economic benefits generated by the airports against their environmental impact. The ARC brings together a wide range of expertise at the interface of air transport and local and regional policies. ARC represents more than 30 European regions and cities with about 100 million citizens. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gunnel R (talk • contribs) 08:26, 12 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi Gunnel. The article you are talking about is Airport Regions Conference - what exactly do you need help with? Pedro |  Chat  08:28, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

I accidently ruined a page
Hi guys, i was trying to add a list of #1 contenders to the smackdown page (as in whos challenging the champion for the title) and the whole pages layout has gone crazy. I dont know how to fix it. The champion bit is empty and they are in the commentator section. Please help me! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Naylehj (talk • contribs) 10:43, 12 September 2007 (UTC) Sorry forgot to sign it. My user is naylehj. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Naylehj (talk • contribs) 10:46, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * You did not close the wikitable with |}. I've fixed it. See Help:Table for more information about how to properly format Wikitables. Hope that helps! (And P.S. You should sign using four tildes, ( ~ ) so it directs to your page) Ariel ♥ Gold 10:48, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Looks like I might have beat you to the punch, Ariel. :) GlassCobra (talk • contribs) 10:52, 12 September 2007 (UTC) *sticks foot into mouth* GlassCobra (talk • contribs) 10:54, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Heaps! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Naylehj (talk • contribs) 10:51, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Removed leading space, indenting here doesn't work, to indent, type a colon, and please remember to sign using the signature picture on the edit toolbar, or four tildes ( ~ ) or see your talk page, Sinebot has probably been to visit by now, lol. Hope that helps! Ariel ♥ Gold 10:55, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

net exam form
How to download NET Entrance Form —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.168.93.101 (talk) 11:33, 12 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Have you tried the Computing section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. --Pekaje 11:51, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Adding Army Officers
I am interested in adding several Army officers to wikipedia. I have a user name and password and understand how to edit but not how to create a new page. Also, the officers I intend to add are JAG's who worked on high profile cases. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Markjohnson434 (talk • contribs) 12:27, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Welcome, Markjohnson434!! Please review Wikipedia's core policies, and see the following for help on how to create articles: Cite your sources, Manual of style, Layout guide, Wikipedia's copyright policy, First article, Article development and How to edit, and remember to sign your talk page comments with four tildes ( ~ ) so others know who you are! Happy editing! Ariel ♥ Gold 13:30, 12 September 2007 (UTC)


 * See also Help:Starting a new page. PrimeHunter 13:37, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Jason Feinberg
Talk:Jason Feinberg is simply not a discussion; it is a copy of the article itself. I could blank it or archive it and then blank it. I'm just not sure what is the right thing to do. For future reference, is the Help Desk the right place to ask this question? If I see something like this should I report it here or just go ahead and make a change? Sbowers3 12:27, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Be bold! - just delete the superfluous text, explaining what you are doing in your summary. -- Orange Mike 12:50, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * See WP:EIW for links to (what should be) all the help pages, guidelines, and essays about talk pages. --Teratornis 15:30, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Texas Holdem
I was recently involved in a hand that is being disputed. A flush was on the table ace high. In the showdown the other perrson did not have nay cards to that flush and I had a queen in my hand to that flush. The other individual claims the pot should be split. I claim as with any poker it is the best five cards and my flush was therfore higher because my second card in that very flush was higher that his. Am I correct? Please help!!! Marty P. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.226.156.164 (talk) 15:44, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * This board is for Wikipedia-related problems. I suggest you take this to Reference desk/Miscellaneous, where Wikipedians try to help people with real-life problems, such as, well, poker.  x42bn6 Talk Mess  15:48, 12 September 2007 (UTC)


 * As mentioned, this is not the right place to ask. However, take a look at this.  Your flush was clearly higher, so you're the pot winner.  Texas Hold'em (which I'm assuming is what you were playing) uses the same definition of a flush as other Poker variants. --Pekaje 17:50, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Editing Problem - Lalla Ward
Folks, weird one. I am trying to edit the Lalla Ward article, but none of my edits are saved. There are no edit conflicts or anything like that. I only see this problem with this one article -- I can edit others with no problem. Any ideas? Thanks! --ukexpat 16:41, 12 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Maybe you have been vandalising too much? --Already Daatstict 17:16, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Already Daatstict, that's not appropriate, please don't make comments like that. Ukexpat, there seems to have been an error, since you have no edits to Lalla Ward in your contribution history. Does the "show preview" button work with that article? 17:24, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * No, the "show preview" does not work for me on that article. Thanks. --ukexpat 21:43, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Permanent softblock possible by IP-owner's request?
I had a message from a teacher interested in preventing vandalism from his school's (single) IP, but who wants to preserve access for teachers and non-vandalizing students. Is it possible to have the IP softblocked indefinitely at the IP-owner's request, so that only logged-in users can edit from this IP? If so, what would be the process? --Rrburke(talk) 17:38, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * They would probably have to send an email to OTRS. I don't think a talk page message is official enough. Probably the email address at the bottom of this page. Also, one teacher may not be enough. They may need an email from a school administrator. Mr.  Z- man  17:46, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks... passed the info along. --Rrburke(talk) 19:37, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

I have been insulted
User:Leebo and User:AngelOfSadness have been teaming up to leave insulting messeges on my talk page. Me, who has only made an innocent test, has to pay the price. Please destroy their accounts. Thank You. --Already Daatstict 18:00, 12 September 2007 (UTC)


 * The messages they left on your talk page are hardly attacks. They are civil pointers to direct you to take note of our policy on "no personal attacks", which I again point out to you. Please remember to assume good faith on the part of other editors and be civil and polite in your discussions with others. Nobody here is out to insult you, we're really quite a friendly bunch once you get to know us. Hers fold  (t/a/c) 18:22, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * They have not insulted you. They have warned you against posting further inappropriate messages, and having reviewed your contributions, you should have received more warnings. Thus far your account has been used only for disruptiive edits. Consider yourself further warned now. --Fuhghettaboutit 18:23, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * For those playing along at home, the "one innocent test" was this. Raymond Arritt 18:24, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Plagiarism
Are plagiaristic entries and/or users who have been found to have plagiarized to be reported? If so, to whom do I report such things? Thanks, wingman358 18:25, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * If an article is a copyright violation (plagiarism nearly always is), place db-copyvio at the top of the article, to let administrators know about it; it will add the article to a list of articles to be deleted by administrators. If the article is a copy of a web page, it helps if you use the template as, so it's easier for admins to check.
 * If (in exceptional cases) the article is plagiarised but not a copyright violation (for instance, it was copied from a public-domain source), you can fix the problem by simply adding the source to the article.
 * It helps to notify users who upload copyright violations (instructions for this are on the db-copyvio template itself); if a user persists in uploading copyright violations, you can give them a further warning ({{subst:uw-copyright}}), and if that fails use WP:AIV to report them to administrators.
 * Hope that helps! --ais523 18:32, 12 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I just found the page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Plagiarism Thanks for your speedy assistance as well! wingman358 18:35, 12 September 2007 (UTC)


 * That's interesting; the link Plagiarism redirects to Copyright problems, but that page doesn't actually address the case where there has been plagiarism without copyright infringement.


 * If you do detect plagiarism, it may be unintentional (particularly if the editor has a prior history of good, original, properly-cited contributions). A polite reminder to always cite one's sources may be all that's necessary.  If an editor appears to have a history of plagiarism and hasn't responded (or has responded poorly) to a polite request, then you might have to ask an admin to step in.  WP:AN/I is a good place for this.


 * Try to keep in mind that sometimes our plagiarists are young people who just haven't ever received proper instruction in source attribution. Polite but firm correction is often all that's necessary.  TenOfAllTrades(talk) 19:50, 12 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Okay, I've added a section – at Copyright problems – that addresses plagiarism as distinct from copyright infringement. I encourage any policy wonks in the audience to have at it. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 20:20, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Cannot Remain Signed/Logged In
Please help. I am a new member of this community and I am unable to remain signed in. Every time I clink a link/move to another section of the site, I am no longer signed in. Also, I am unable to create a user page, access the preferences for my account, or post comments as a member. Please advise me on how to correct this problem.

Thank you, 67.142.130.14 18:50, 12 September 2007 (UTC) Nelley McGhie
 * There are two common reasons why this might be happening:
 * You might not have cookies enabled in your browser; you need to enable them for Wikipedia, or the servers can't keep track of your logged-in status.
 * Some ISPs (particularly satellite ISPs) have problems keeping users logged-in; to solve this and other login problems, try using the following alternative login link: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w/index.php?title=Special:Userlogin. (Unfortunately, it's slower than the normal one.)
 * Hope that helps! --ais523 18:58, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

dialogue with editors
recently, i made a minor change to a wikipedia article. the change was well-intentioned and was in the interests of accuracy, as i perceived it. an editor immediately sent me a note stating that: the change had been reversed and i should present firm evidence before introducing such a change. i have no argument to present against this but, alternatively, i have not found a means of establishing a dialogue with an editor so as to negotiate such matters. how do i do this? scylla. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bruce Condell (talk • contribs) 18:53, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * You can contact an editor by adding a new section to their User talk: page; for instance, if you wanted to send a message to me, you could do so by editing User talk:ais523. You can use the '+' tab at the top of such pages to more easily add a new section. As for why the change was reverted, asking the user who reverted you will give the best information, but at a guess it may have been because you edited a biography of a living person, but did not give a source for statements made in the edit; sourcing is particularly important for such articles, although it should also be used in others. (That last sentence is just a guess, I don't know about the details of the situation and so might be completely wrong.) --ais523 19:02, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

External Linking
One of my users posted relevant links to certain topics regarding basketball in particular the Detroit Pistons only to receive warnings about being blacklisted.

I respect your decision of removing the links if they were a violation of your policy but they do not appear to be violations after reading your policy. This is from your What To Link Section:

What should be linked

1. Articles about any organization, person, web site, or other entity should link to the official site if any.

2. An article about a book, a musical score, or some other media should link to a site hosting a copy of the work if none of the "Links normally to be avoided" criteria apply.

3. Sites that contain neutral and accurate material that cannot be integrated into the Wikipedia article due to copyright issues, amount of detail (such as professional athlete statistics, movie or television credits, interview transcripts, or online textbooks) or other reasons.

4. Sites with other meaningful, relevant content that is not suitable for inclusion in an article, such as reviews and interviews.

I do not see how links to very accurate and insightful Detroit Pistons statistics is considered. We have been on the Detroit Pistons page since 2006 without any issues until now. We do not consider our statistics spam, but very insightful and informal.

If anything the need4sheed.com link on the Detroit Pistons entry ie "the #1 Pistons Website on the Internet" that is spam.

Thank you for your time —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.181.102.85 (talk) 19:00, 12 September 2007 (UTC)


 * That link was removed because it was a redirection. I restored it but with the destination url. To see an explanation of any edit you can click the History tab at the top of the page, e.g. the Detroit Pistons page, then read the edit summary. In the case above, the editor who removed your link eplained that it violated the WP:EL policy regarding redirections. So the problem wasn't the content of the link; it was the format of the link. I don't think anyone will object to that external link now that it is in the proper format. Sbowers3 03:02, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Clearing past search topics
Hello! I love WP! I donated $ last year and will donate again. Thanks! Here is my question: How do you clear old searches? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.123.67.169 (talk) 19:13, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia does not keep searches you have made. You may be referring to your browser's autocomplete or suggestion fuctions.  Leebo  T / C  19:16, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * If you use Firefox, then go to Tools -> Options... -> Privacy. In "Private Data", choose settings and check next to "Saved Form Information". Click OK, then Clear Now. If you use IE, then best of luck to you. Hers fold  (t/a/c) 19:59, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

name of restaurant
dear mr./mrs.,

Is it allowed to add the name of a specific restaurant to the wikipedia site?

I would like to add the Erawan Thai restaurant to the description of Erawan with a small description of the restaurant like I see with for instance Mcdonalds or the Hard Rock café.

friendly regards,

R. Loos 200.61.9.66 19:53, 12 September 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.61.9.66 (talk) 19:27, 12 September 2007 (UTC)


 * This could be considered a form of advertising. Is there anything which makes the restaurant notable within Erawan? Our rules are pretty stringent about that sort of thing. -- Orange Mike 19:55, 12 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Further: I am sorry, I thought Erawan was the name of a town. Our rules about companies require that a business be notable, and I doubt that the restaurant you mention would qualify. The companies you named are multibillion-dollar corporations with worldwide presence and fame. -- Orange Mike 19:59, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

NEW TO THE SITE
THIS IS MY FIRST VISIT TO WIKIPEDIA. I WAS GIVEN THE FOLLOWING INFO TO LOOK UP: "451 SO 2D 480" THE SOUTHERN REPORTER SECOND CAME UP ON THIS SITE. I DONT KNOW HOW TO FIND THE PARTICULAR ARTICLE WITHIN THE SEARCH. CAN YOU HELP? THANK YOU. PIPER PALMER  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.187.95.245 (talk) 19:29, 12 September 2007 (UTC)


 * We don't have an article by that name, and never have. I'm not sure what you're looking for based on that information, either. I'd recommend you turn off your caps lock and ask at the Reference Desk. Hers fold  (t/a/c) 19:55, 12 September 2007 (UTC)


 * This is a legal ruling as a Google search shows: . A college library or a law library in Florida where your IP address indicates you are, might have the Southern Reporter, to which this info refers. It includes published appellate court decisions.  Lawyers often have online access to such cases. Wikipedia and its editors are absolutely not allowed to give any legal advice, but there may be general discussion of legal subjects at the Reference Desk and many important legal cases or the subjects they dealt with are covered by various articles. Edison 20:09, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

July 30 archive says August 5
I clicked on the July 30 archive (I had no time to read Help Desk answers during the whole month of July, so I'm working my way back now), and it said August 5. Could someone fix this so it won't be confusing? Vchimpanzee 20:44, 12 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Fixed. Someone went behind the bot and copy-pasted from another archive.  W ODU P  21:19, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

my signature
my signature is not coming up linked?--LAZY 1L 20:56, 12 September 2007 (UTC)


 * In your preferences, uncheck raw signature.  W ODU P  21:15, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

thanks!--LAZY 1L 21:38, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

How can I tag an article with no references/sources?
There are several articles which do not have any reference sites/sources. How can I tag that article so that the creator/other wikipedians can help out and cite references? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.38.51.134 (talk) 23:07, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Use Unreferenced. Cheers,  A r k y  ¡Hablar!  23:27, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Wolfe City, Texas History
To whom it concerns

Yesterday I entered more Wolfe City, Texas Histories, but they have been deleted for some reason. Can you tell me what I did wrong or what happen to the articles? Can you tell me how I should be entering the articles? Also if I can enter the information, how can I enter photos?

Thanks John W. Duncan —Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnwdfarm  (talk • contribs)  19:25, 12 September 2007


 * Well, first off, you shouldn't have included your personal information into a Wikipedia article. That's just asking for Spam and possible Identity theft.
 * Your edit was reverted by an automatic program that attempts to prevent vandalism to our articles. You added such a large amount of information at a time that the program thought you were trying to vandalize the Wolfe City article.
 * Looks like your edit was not vandalism, however, you should read our policy on verifiability. You did not cite a source for any of the information you added to the article, making it impossible for anyone else to verify the information is true. I'd suggest doing any additions in smaller sections and be sure to cite sources so we can read for ourselves where the facts come from. -- Kesh 00:21, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Not Vandalism
I have updated a article here about Newberry College and the conduct of its last president. Each charge against the president if based off of articles in two newspapers. However someone at the college continues to remove the articles. They are the one censoring the truth! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jsoward1967 (talk • contribs) 23:40, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * The only edit of your account is making the above post. I guess you are one of the IP's who has edited Newberry College. Is it The State (newspaper) which is mentioned in Newberry College? It seems a lot to write about something from 1992, and I removed some unsourced allegations. Basing accusations on "it was well known to the students at the time that ..." is a gross violation of Biographies of living persons (he appears to be alive). Please see Biographies of living persons and do not readd it without a reliable source. PrimeHunter 01:17, 13 September 2007 (UTC)