Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2007 September 21

= September 21 =

Shrink/shorten/basically make space that the talk page boxes invade smaller
How do you shrink, shorten, or merge talk page boxes? Is there really a way to create a scroller for them to reduce space? Talk:SanDisk Sansa is a very good example, and it's giving me the nerves. --Jw21 /PenaltyKillah (discuss•edits) 02:56, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * WikiProjectBannerShell will allow you to condense the wikiproject boxes. Depending on how much attention the talk page gets, it may not need the talk page header.  Lara Love  03:11, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Painting listing "Yu Shih-hai" by cplumley2
Good evening,

I have uploaded a painting by Yu Shih-hai. It is also available here on my server:

I belive that it was painted about 1920-30 and was in a collection of paintings from my grandmother's home at 76 Brooks Street, West Medford, Mass. (You have a listing for this home on your service, as Amelia Earhart lived there for a time with my grandparents. When I find my photos of the house I will add the monument to that page.)

I have no idea if this painting is copyrighted and how to list it on your servers.

I am really trying to find out about the artist that I can list the painting for sale.

Thank you for your help.


 * If you do not know about the copyright, it will likely be deleted. Also, do not post personal information here.  Wikipedia is not for selling things.  Try Craigslist instead.   Into The Fray  T / C  01:56, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

incorrect image i ubject to using it
there is an image of a nscc color guard on the us naval sea cadet page where the cadets portraied are out of proper uniform in that there Aiguillettes are on improperly 2 of the three strands should go on the outside of the sholder 97.84.155.21 01:37, 21 September 2007 (UTC)NSCC PO3


 * I assume you mean the page United States Naval Sea Cadet Corps, and the image Image:US Naval Sea Cadet.jpg. Obviously we would like an image with everything correctly portrayed, but right now this seems to be the only image we have of such a cadet. If you have an better image we can freely use (see Image use policy), we would be happy to use it, otherwise an image with a slight mistake is better then none at all. Prodego  talk  01:56, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Creating New
I created a new one, however the text is partially in caps and part not. I need to change the format of the spelling, but it won't let me. How can I fix this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fenwaypark (talk • contribs) 01:48, 21 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm not entirely sure I understand. you want to change the format of what exactly? The Kato picture, the article, or something else? Best, --B figura  (talk) 02:04, 21 September 2007 (UTC)


 * With regards to the article, please do not overwrite an existing article with a new one. :) If you are confident that the Kato you wish to write about meets notability guidelines and you are able to supply proper verification, please establish a new page for him. --Moonriddengirl 02:09, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Tacos RULE!!!!!!

Watching only part of a page
Is it possible to watch a page (especially a talk page) such that only edits to a particular section will show up in the watchlist and edits to other sections won't prevent those "desired section" edits from showing up? - SigmaEpsilon → Σ Ε 03:09, 21 September 2007 (UTC)


 * No. Only pages are in your watchlist.  It is just a list of page names.  When you view it, it quickly queries the recently changed database table for pages with a name in your watchlist.  That table does not have page sections in it. -- k a i n a w &trade; 03:12, 21 September 2007 (UTC)


 * It would put too much of a burden on the servers to allow sections to be watched.  Lara Love  03:14, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * OK. I was just curious. Thanks for the quick response. - SigmaEpsilon → Σ Ε 03:21, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Grammar
Hi. I've got a question about the grammar (specifically capitalization) in a wikipedia article. The article is for brian_d_foy. Apparently he doesn't capitalize his name. I know there are other 'proper' nouns that aren't normally capitalized. The question is, what should be done at the beginning of a sentence? I would have thought normal English grammar rules would apply, and the text for his name would be capitalized. (I'm particularly looking at the third para beginning 'brian'. I don't have Strunck & White with me, but my 'Australian Style Manual' says in this case: "...proper names that begin with a lowercase letter...either rearrange the sentence so that the proper name no longer starts is or ... convert it to a capital at the start of the sentence" Thanks for any advice. peterl 03:18, 21 September 2007 (UTC)


 * The Manual of Style has general guidelines on how to format articles, and includes some instructions for special cases such as this, in submanuals such as the one at MOS:CAPS. That particular guide says:

For personal names, capitalize normally within the article, but include the lowercase spelling within the lead. For the article title, follow the lead of outside sources and use the most common spelling and capitalization, per Wikipedia:Naming conventions. For example, if The New York Times and USA Today routinely capitalize the name, use the same style here on Wikipedia. If the situation is ambiguous, capitalize normally.
 * The submanual on trademarks expands on this a bit further, saying that within the article, standard capitalization should be used (i.e. capitalize the proper noun). In general, though, whatever method you end up using should be what you use throughout the article. Don't switch styles. Hers <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:gold">fold  (t/a/c) 03:28, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I suppose one could try asking brian d foy why he enjoys making life more difficult for other people and wasting their time. There are already enough difficulties in life even when everybody tries to cooperate, I should think. I cannot be alone in spotting the irony: his notability derives from his work on Perl, which is part of computing, and the goal of computing is to save labor - that is also the point behind having grammatical rules. In any case, Wikipedia tramples freely on lots of cultural and religious preferences, so I wouldn't worry too much about how brian d foy prefers to render his name. In my opinion (which is by no means authoritative beyond my limited ability to make it sound sensible), do what you have to do to keep our articles looking at least semi-literate. There might be a template somewhere to tag articles that contain goofily-rendered names, or maybe someone could start one (lest another editor should see what looks like an error and "correct" it). --Teratornis 03:38, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Viewing languages in articles
When I view articles which text written in different languages, I cannot view the text. It always comes up as question marks. In particular, I cannot view Asian languages, or some text written in IPA. Is there something I have to download to view these fonts? This is an example of an article where I cannot view parts of the text: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_writing_system Also, is there a way to request articles to be written? I work for a company I believe qualifies as notable, but agree that my association with the company makes me unsuitable to write it. Do I have to wait and see, or ask someone personally?Pjsiqhh 04:17, 21 September 2007 (UTC)


 * You can request an article at WP:RA, under the appropriate section. It may take a fairly long time for it to get written, but it's better than doing nothing. Thanks for not trying to write it yourself. :-) As for your first question, which I'm answering last because I had to look up the help page, you should check here for directions on how to get your computer set up properly. <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:blue">Hers <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:gold">fold  (t/a/c) 04:42, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

How to add photograph to article?
Hi, I wrote an article and would like to add a photo (I own the copyright) to the article/  how would i go about doing this? thank you very much. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Adamtrask1 (talk • contribs) 06:57, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * The easiest way is to upload at Wikimedia commons (and your picture can be used within other projects too). Please go to Commons:Upload. This page leads you through the way. Before you can upload a picture at commons, you have to create an account there. To use a picture within an article, please look at Picture tutorial--Thw1309 07:22, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Leonardo da Vinci - Vocational training
Hello. I wonder what Leonardo da Vinci - Vocational training program is. So I searched the program in wikipedia. Would you help me find the explanation or the reference for the Leonardo da Vinci? I'm very looking forward to your reply very soon through my e-mail <email removed for your security>. Thank you very much.
 * This page was created to help users with questions about the use of wikipedia. For questions about the content please look at Reference desk and ask your question there. If you should be looking for the european programm please look here--Thw1309 07:30, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Logo
How do I add a logo for the airline I have written the history for. I can produce a gif image easile, but where toI download it to, and how do I insert it in the page?Tnuag 07:51, 21 September 2007 (UTC)tnuag
 * You can upload the image via the 'Upload file' box in the toolbox, which will be at the bottom of the left column if you are using default preferences. For instructions on adding an uploaded image to an article, see Help:Image. --ais523 09:15, 21 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Firstly, it's better to have the image as PNG format rather than GIF. Upload is the page to use to upload the image, just give it a description and choose a licence tag (such as ). Then include it with something like logo=Central_African_Airlines_logo.png| in the infobox. — PhilHibbs | talk 09:19, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Copying a biography with permission...
I recently created a page for a well known south western artist and was given permission from his family to copy his biography from his website. Your copyright bot said that it found the connection and told me to delete the copied material. What shall I do? —Preceding unsigned comment added by BDeVine123 (talk • contribs) 08:29, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * See Requesting_copyright_permission Either have the person themselves write to Wikipedia from an identifiable address or forward the permission you got yourself. Also, it's generally not a good idea to copy biographies because they tend not to be written in a Wikipedia compatible format and tone. I recommend you use the facts and write the biography for Wikipedia yourself. - Mgm|(talk) 08:46, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Also, getting permission is often trickier than it first might seem. Merely granting permission for use in Wikipedia isn't good enough, because Wikipedia can be copied so the permission needs to be broader. Put simply, all material has to be either public domain or licensed in a way that is compatible with the GFDL. The simplest from our point of view is to get the copyright holder to agree to license the material under the GFDL itself, but that can be hard to explain. Sometimes it's easier to re-write the text using just the facts, like Mgm says. If you don't have the time or the confidence to do that, just link the bio in External links and let someone else do it. If the person is notable, then someone will do it eventually. — PhilHibbs | talk 09:13, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Question
How does Wikipedia ensure the quality of its articles? Bad articles can lead Wikipedia in to very serious trouble especially if they invlove people who might sue you. Simply put how do you check the millions of articles and remove bad edits? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rylong2 (talk • contribs) 09:29, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, anyone can change the articles in any direction; much of the checking is done by readers who happen to come across the article and correct mistakes in them (the principle is that there are more people who will correct the articles if they come across a mistake than there are deliberately trying to mess them up). There are also people (and computer programs) who monitor all changes being made, trying to spot bad edits and reverting them as they happen. There are other methods as well, but despite these there's no way that Wikipedia can guarantee that all the articles are correct (see the General disclaimer). --ais523 09:34, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * A simple question with lots of answers! Regarding articles on living people we have some very specific policies - see WP:BLP for more. In general, articles can go through a good article review to check for "quality", with the aim of getting articles up t0 Featured status. However the most important thing is this is a wiki! The aim of Wikipedia is constant improvement, and the thousands of people who edit here each day (generally) are all trying to remove bad edits and replace poor content with good content. You can help us!! Pedro | <font style="color:#accC10;background:#0000fa;"> Chat 09:38, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * See:
 * Overview FAQ
 * Overview FAQ
 * Replies to common objections
 * Biographies of living persons (as mentioned above)
 * --Teratornis 15:35, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

GFDL questions
I'm setting up a new wiki soon, and will be importing pages from here using Special:Export. Below are some of the pages
 * Template:Sprotected
 * Daewoo Magnus
 * Middlesbrough
 * Asperger's Syndrome
 * Disability
 * Girls Aloud
 * Hallam FM
 * MediaWiki:Monobook.css
 * MediaWiki:Common.css

Is it a violation of the GFDL to edit the source of the XML files, changing all the ".svg" image files to ".svg.png" files because my webhost does not support SVG uploads??

Thanks, --<b style="color:green;">Solumeiras</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 10:23, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * It's not a violation of the GFDL to edit pages (if it were, then Wikipedia would have quite some legal problems trying to run!), but the rules are slightly different if you're editing rather than making an exact copy. See Copyrights for an informal explanation of what you have to do, or the GFDL itself for the full legal details. (Basically: you have to make it clear what you've done (for instance in the edit history of the image description pages), licence the changes under GFDL (unlikely to be a problem in a GFDL-licenced wiki), keep track of the previous history (which Special:Export handles for you), and make sure that the new version is available in a machine-readable form (unlikely to be a problem in this case; however, as the SVG is probably the preferred form to edit the image in rather than the produced SVG, to be safe I'd recommend you link to the original SVGs somewhere, maybe Wikipedia's copy of them if you can't upload them yourself).) --ais523 10:29, 21 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for that, ais523. I'll have a read through of the copyrights page.

This is an example:

<FONT size="4">Image:Octagon-warning.svg.png</FONT><BR>

Image from

The wiki I am making is for editing, and not a copy of pages from Wikipedia (like answers.com and other sites that mirror it).

I was unsure about if it was a violation of copyright to change all SVG images to .svg.png images in an imported copy of the pages into my new wiki.

Thanks, --<b style="color:green;">Solumeiras</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 10:37, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * That looks fine to me. Just one other quick note: not all images (as opposed to text) on wikipedia are GFDL; see their image description page for licensing information on each individual image. (All images used on templates have to have licences that specifically allow you to do what you're doing, though; this is Wikimedia policy.) The licences used will either be GFDL (as in the example you've given), public domain (this puts no conditions on the image at all, so it's impossible to mess that one up), or Creative Commons licences (which have a subset of the requirements of the GFDL; the most common Creative Commons licence used on Wikipedia would require only keeping track of the author and keeping the same licence, which is a subset of the GFDL obligations). So if you follow the rules as for the GFDL, and copy the licence templates used over, then you're unlikely to have problems whatever the licence. --ais523 10:42, 21 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you for that explanation. The only images I was going to re-use would probably be the Nuvola icon sets used on talkpage warnings and templates. I'll have a look at the licences now. At least now I don't have to worry too much. --<b style="color:green;">Solumeiras</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 10:46, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

New section
როგორ დავრეგისტრირდე და გამოვიყენო ვიკიპედია ვახტანგი —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.114.225.127 (talk) 10:58, 21 September 2007 (UTC)


 * When on the English-language Wikipedia, please always use English, no matter to whom you address your comments. This is so that comments may be comprehensible to the community at large. :) We'd be happy to try to help you if you could translate your question, but questions in other languages may go unanswered unless somebody else who speaks it happens to be manning the help desk. --Moonriddengirl 11:47, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * You could ask your question at the Georgian language version of this page, reachable here.--Fuhghettaboutit 12:20, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Dubious times in top Asian 'international academy'
I am currently an employee of '__________international academy' in Korea, and am extremely concerned by levels of corruption at the school. The information is true; however, I cannot at the moment produce evidence as i'm an employee there until I fulfill my contract. Having said that, I feel completely outraged with the goings on there and the treatment of some of the students: people need to know.

The academy is very wealthy and influential however, therefore I'm trying to watch my back.

I will publish on this site, but I need to know that they won't be able to track me (I am not kidding with my concerns- if you mess with this organisation, it can have serious consequences).

I know you may deal with a lot of fake stuff, but this is not. I just don't know what to do: people can't get away with this!

I can't say too much here, because this is in the public domain, but i'm just hoping that I can publish with reassurance that I can't be found by them (my employers) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wynspuds (talk • contribs) 13:58, 21 September 2007 (UTC)


 * As you note you can't produce evidence, Wikipedia may not be able to help you with this. There is an official policy against original research. And if the evidence that you can produce is not already published in a secondary source, it is not proper for Wikipedia's purposes. As an encyclopedia, Wikipedia is a compendium of known and published facts. However, even if you produce proper secondary sources, Wikipedia can't guarantee your anonymity. While private information is not routinely published, there may be some cases where Wikipedia is compelled to reveal that information. See Wikimedia:Privacy Policy. Depending on the laws of Korea, you might have better luck speaking to local media or locating a supervisory organization to help you. Perhaps you could find a way to deliver your evidence anonymously there? I'm sorry that the situation is so dire, and I hope that you're able to resolve it. :( --Moonriddengirl 14:21, 21 September 2007 (UTC)


 * There's quite a few places where you could put this information. I seem to remember a Wiki-style site dedicated to this that uncovered some corruption scandal, but I can't remember the name. It was essentially an encyclopedia of "leaks". -Wooty [Woot?] [Spam! Spam! Wonderful spam!] 04:24, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Persistent infrequent possible vandalism
I watch the article Guiseley. Every so often User:195.171.89.178 comes along and adds that that historian Barbara Haydock is a local resident. I'm not sure that this person exists, and if she does then she's not notable (the entry on her was deleted earlier this year . Every few weeks User:195.171.89.178 adds the name to the article and then I come along and delete it.  I've tried discussing it with them, on their talk page and on the article's talk page.  What can be done to stop this waste of time?  Thanks, Dupont Circle 14:10, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * There's not a whole lot, other than having more people watch it. A long-term IP block wouldn't really be appropriate, since it's not severe vandalism. Semi-protection also wouldn't be appropriate, since the frequency is so low. <font color="#3D59AB">Leebo  <font color="#2A8E82">T /<font color="#2A8E82"> C 14:16, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

center for jewish history
Hi,

I attempted to make changes to the page, "Center for Jewish History". My changes were reverted, per the message below:

"September 2007 Thank you for your recent edit to Center for Jewish History. Unfortunately I had to revert the edit, as sections seeme to have been taken from another source, possibly breaching copyright. These additions also did not have the encyclopaedic style which we try to aim for on wikipedia, but read like an advertisement. Thanks. Quantpole 14:25, 17 September 2007 (UTC)"

I work for the Center for Jewish History, as the primary public affairs staff member, and do most of the writing about the Center. The changes that I attempted to put on the page were accurate AND my own work. I am not sure why my edits were not accepted (nor do I know who posted the Center's wikipedia page in the first place).

Can you please let me know what I can do to correct this information so I can provide the Wikipedia community with accurate and complete information about the Center for Jewish History?

Thank you,

Hadas Almagor Deputy Director of Development and Public Affairs Center for Jewish History Hadasalmagor 14:15, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you for working to improve the encyclopedia. Unfortunately, I have to agree with the person who reverted your edit, because it appears to be largely copy/pasted from another source and reads like an advertisement for the Center. Wikipedia has a number of policies and guideines that must be followed when adding information to an article. Of significance here is the neutral point of view policy. You work for the center, so it would be difficult for you to write a neutral entry on it. This is discussed at Conflict of interest. You can propose changes on Talk:Center for Jewish History, but please do not edit the article directly. <font color="#3D59AB">Leebo  <font color="#2A8E82">T /<font color="#2A8E82"> C 14:22, 21 September 2007 (UTC)


 * The other problem is that, as they say, "on the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog". In other words, while we do try to assume good faith in most cases, if you're contributing content that you wrote for another website, it is copyrighted (by you, most likely), and because the content on Wikipedia is supposed to be licensed under the GFDL, we can't blindly accept anything that appears to be non-free content. Yours is one of about three or four questions recently about a similar topic, and I believe if you scroll up a few sections you will see where there is some information on how you can release your text under a free license so that there is no copyright violation involved. Confusing Manifestation 15:36, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

copyright text
Hi there,

I work at Penguin publishers and have been trying to update my author pages and book title pages but having trouble with text. Specifically with Neris and India's Idiot-Proof Diet. Every time I enter the book summary (from our own penguin systems that I myself wrote and has been approved by the author) it gets removed because the bot finds it on another website. Even though it is clearly in my own copy-right. Please help! I also don't know how to add book images which are fully cleared for me to put up on this site without them getting removed.

Jenny

Jenpeng 14:20, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't see a bot doing it. It looks like another user, User:Madman, removed it most recently. Basically, as an encyclopedia article, the page shouldn't contain copied text from another source, even if you own the copyright for that source. It should be written in original words, or you could place a link to your hosted version of the summary. Regarding the images, you need to provide copyright information and a fair use rationale. See Non-free content. <font color="#3D59AB">Leebo  <font color="#2A8E82">T /<font color="#2A8E82"> C 14:25, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Intersection
I was wondering how it is possible to do a intersection of 2 categories to find out how many are in both. Such as list of album covers without fair use rationale. Dommccas 15:09, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * You could try asking Jogers, because I think he has Jogersbot update the list. <font color="#3D59AB">Leebo  <font color="#2A8E82">T /<font color="#2A8E82"> C 15:12, 21 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks i'll ask him Dommccas 15:19, 21 September 2007 (UTC)


 * You can also try CatScan; I've got it listed on my userpage. - Mgm|(talk) 17:45, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Hallo
Hallo, wie du Windeln trägst? danke. --Co Signer 15:19, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Please ask questions in English in order to allow more people to understand. <font color="#3D59AB">Leebo  <font color="#2A8E82">T /<font color="#2A8E82"> C 15:24, 21 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Also, confine your questions to Wikipedia. For questions about things such as diapers, use the Reference Desk. -- <font color='#ff0000'>k <font color='#ee0000'>a <font color='#dd0000'>i <font color='#cc0000'>n <font color='#bb0000'>a <font color='#aa0000'>w &trade; 15:27, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * We do of course have an article about Diapers which you may read. If you have a question about editing the German Wikipedia, you could ask at de:Wikipedia:Fragen zur Wikipedia. --Teratornis 15:30, 21 September 2007 (UTC)


 * weir gut danke --Co Signer 15:32, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

(undent) Note to Help desk volunteers: when questions arrive in languages other than English, Language recognition chart may be helpful. --Teratornis 15:40, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Note to Help desk volunteers: this guy' s German is even worse than my English. So this seems to be a stupid joke. Please do not try to help him any more. --Thw1309 17:53, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Considering your question is in German considering asking your question here. -- Тhε Rαnδom Eδιτor 21:08, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Photo archive
Hello,

I wonder how to proceed to have access to the phto archive as You can find in the French Wiki version "Photo du jour" as photo of the day ?

Please let me know. Thanks in advance, Jean —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.73.161.116 (talk) 18:34, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * The page archiving the Photo of the Day changes by month, but you can get to all featured pictures by going to Featured pictures. <font color="#3D59AB">Leebo  <font color="#2A8E82">T /<font color="#2A8E82"> C 18:42, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

removing a flag/message
I have added internal and external links and believe my entry is no longer orphaned. How do I remove the message generated by Wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wendyweiss123 (talk • contribs) 19:23, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Orphaned means no articles link to it. You need to place links to the article in other articles with appropriate context so that there is more than one way to get to it other than searching. <font color="#3D59AB">Leebo  <font color="#2A8E82">T /<font color="#2A8E82"> C 19:27, 21 September 2007 (UTC)


 * As Leebo notes, to, erm, de-orphanize an article, you need to find relevant articles elsewhere on Wikipedia that should be linked back to it and add such links there. :) Once you have done so, you simply edit the article to cut out the template. Look for text between brackets. The orphan template looks like and may have a date attached. --Moonriddengirl 19:31, 21 September 2007 (UTC)


 * The article still has a lot of other problems. It is not an encyclopedic entry in its present form, but a list of "medical foods" and links to outside sources. It has few or no wikilinks; no categorization; etc. Please wikify the article first, before worrying about the orphan tag. -- Orange Mike 19:45, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

my article doesnt appear when I search
Hi Wikipedians I wrote my first article. It appears under "my contributions" However, it does not appear when I search Wikipedia. What have I done wrong? ILPAC 19:28, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I see it when I search for CETO Wave Power. <font color="#3D59AB">Leebo  <font color="#2A8E82">T /<font color="#2A8E82"> C 19:31, 21 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Maybe the Wikipedia seach function had not indexed CETO Wave Power when you searched it but it's in searches now. If you want Google search or other external searches then Wikipedia has no control over when they index a new page. PrimeHunter 19:36, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

New articles
can you write your own articles, and how —Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.155.248.201 (talk) 20:24, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Please read How to start a page. Your first article details what is and isn't a good idea for article topics. Remember, if you want to write your own articles as in you owning the material, Wikipedia is not the place, see WP:OWN. - Mgm|(talk) 21:16, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Fourth Geneva Convention
The Fourth Geneva Convention article starts with Artical 2. It goes on from there but does not include Artical 1. What does Artical 1 say and why is it not included? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.21.165.172 (talk) 20:53, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * This sort of question is best asked at the Reference Desk. -- Тhε Rαnδom Eδιτor 21:04, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * "Article 1. The High Contracting Parties undertake to respect and to ensure respect for the present Convention in all circumstances."--Thw1309 21:09, 21 September 2007 (UTC)


 * (edit conflict) The full text can be found in the first link at Fourth Geneva Convention. Article 1 says: "The High Contracting Parties undertake to respect and to ensure respect for the present Convention in all circumstances." Wikipedia does not bring full source texts. Other sites like Wikisource specialize in that. I guess Wikipedia editors have tried to select the articles considered most important. PrimeHunter 21:12, 21 September 2007 (UTC)


 * See also Geneva Convention/Fourth Geneva Convention. PrimeHunter 21:41, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

I want to access wikipedia from my Verizon mobile phone..
Dear friend of the All-knowing Wiki,

I really want to be able to access wikipedia while i'm on the go. I currently have a mobile web 2.0 capable verizon mobile phone. It's not a smart phone or a pda. Is it possible for me to access wikipedia from this?

Thank you for your repsonse.

66.75.4.149 21:27, 21 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't know the technology but maybe WAP access is of help. PrimeHunter 21:38, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Arbitrary break
Hello, I recently edited the Wikipedia page for Best Friends Animal Society. Could you please take the disclaimer off the top of the page re: it being written like an advertisement? I think the new copy is much better.

Regarding citations, I'm not sure what you mean by that - and how to cite within an article. If you could please give me some guidance, I'll make the changes.

Many thanks.

John Polis jpolis@earthlink.net —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jpolis (talk • contribs) 21:39, 21 September 2007 (UTC)


 * A guide to citations is here. Hope that helps. (I've also marked some places where you might need to cite sources).  And after a cursory examination, the copy does appear improved, so I'll remove the advertising tag. Best, --<font color="Green">B <font color="Blue">figura  (talk) 21:43, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Articles_for_creation
AFC is faulty. The main page doesn't display all articles from the subpage and even though the tags are closed properly, the older submissions header is included in the collapsible close box. Can someone with template and transclusion experience look into this? - Mgm|(talk) 21:53, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Purging either page isn't helping. - Mgm|(talk) 22:03, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Ah, there it is. Missing noinclude close tag meaning nothing after it was included. - Mgm|(talk) 22:09, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Admin requested....
If an admin is watching here, can you please take a look at this question for this user? Thanks in advance.  Into The Fray  <font color="#999999">T /<font color="#999999"> C 22:29, 21 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I unblocked his IP and re-blocked it to approximately the former length with a soft-block. That should solve the problem. :) <font color="#275CA9">Nihiltres ( <font color="#000">t .l ) 23:04, 21 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks much!  Into The Fray  <font color="#999999">T /<font color="#999999"> C 23:06, 21 September 2007 (UTC)