Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2008 April 25

= April 25 =

E-mail confirmation…
I have received 3 "requests" for an email confirmation; The first one was sent on 4/19/08 @ 4:54 PM; the second was sent to me on 4/20/08 @ 2:47AM, AND there was a DUPLICATE of this one.

I responded to the first one on 4/20/08- likely in the afternoon, and when I got to the linked page, the response was that I had successfully completed my email confirmation;

EVEN NOW as I text the problem to you, I AM LOGGED IN, and my user name is @ the top of the page in RED, along with "my talk" in RED– as well.

What is your "take" or advice, here? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Macguytoo (talk • contribs) 00:11, 25 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Your user name will be in red until you add something to your user page; your talk page will be in red until someone talks to you - which I'll do now. BencherliteTalk 00:12, 25 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Special:EmailUser/Macguytoo shows that your email confirmation was successful. This means you can mail other users who have email enabled, and they can mail you. Email confirmation is unrelated to the color of page links (which is red for non-existing pages), and it's not required to edit Wikipedia pages. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:24, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

When can a users contributions be deleted?
Just like to ask who has the power to delete a users contributions so that their edits cant be seen when you enter 'my contributions'. In what circumstances would this happen, i have seen blatant profanity and sick words when entering a users 'my contributions' but on other occassions theres nothing there. Thanks Roadrunnerz45 (talk) 06:15, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I believe the relevant pages are: Revision hiding (policy) and Wikipedia:Requests for oversight]]. --Teratornis (talk) 07:17, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia administrators have the technical ability to delete pages and in some instances delete individual revisions by a user. Oversighters have the technical ability to "hide" a revision in the logs from every single user except fellow oversighters.  Deletion is used when a user creates a page that is deemed unfit to be in the encyclopedia, or when personal information is posted on Wikipedia; it can also be used for many other things.  Oversight is used when there are blatantly libelous material in biographies of living persons or when extremely personal information, or information that could in some way harm someone (either physically or someone's reputation) or tamper with a police investigation or when the Wikimedia Foundation feels the information should not be posted anywhere on Wikipedia.  Hope that helps.  « Gonzo fan2007  (talk ♦ contribs) '' 09:01, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia images not loading in SeaMonkey
Sorry if this is something simple. (Like me!) I use SeaMonkey as a browser. Everything worked fine until a few weeks ago when Wikipedia images started NOT to load. The rest of the Wikipedia pages look fine--it's just the images. All other web sites seem to load properly. Also, if I try IE or Firefox, everything is fine. It's just SeaMonkey and Wikipedia. I put a "help me" on my page and someone was kind enough to suggest clearing the cache, which I did, but it didn't help. I wonder if there is another cache somewhere that I don't know about. Thank you for whatever help you can provide. Jeffmatt (talk) 06:21, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't have SeaMonkey, but if it's similar to Firefox, check to see if somehow you (or gremlins) have disabled image loading on Wikipedia. In Firefox, you would check Edit | Preferences | Content tab | Load images automatically | Exceptions. Clicking the exceptions button opens a window that lists the sites the browser thinks you have said not to load images from. See if Wikipedia happens to be in that list. I don't know why it would be, but I read somewhere that this happens to some people. --Teratornis (talk) 07:13, 25 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the help. It worked! That is, you prompted me to find what in SeaMonkey corresponds to the Firefox Content Tab. In SM, the image manager is under "tools". Indeed, a gremlin (it couldn't have been me!) had blocked Wikipedia. Thank you, again. Greetings from Naples, Italy. I owe you a pizza.Jeffmatt (talk) 07:59, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Please could you help me?
I'm really annoyed. Yesterday i spent over 5 hours gathering information on a British Wrestler that has been around since 2007. His partner's page is fine on here, but for some reason, his page was deleted.

I dont know how to add things to stop my stuff from being deleted, but i know you guys can get the page back. It's legit, honestly, i did it as a favour to him.

If you could please undelete the page entitled - The Juggernaught (actually spelt that way) You can search all the UK wrestling websites, they'll confirm that he is for real, if you undeleted it i'd really appreciate it, and getting help on how to prevent it being deleted again would be alot better.

Please help me.

Kevizzle (talk) 08:21, 25 April 2008 (UTC)


 * According to the deletion log, The Juggernaught was deleted because it didn't indicate importance/significance of the subject. See WP:BIO for the notability requirements for the subject of a biography. —teb728 t c 08:46, 25 April 2008 (UTC)


 * (ec)Hey Kevizzle, let me first say sorry your having a tough time, don't worry we all have had pages we worked on deleted. Sadly, it's part of Wikipedia.
 * To address your concerns, I just took a look at the text, and the main problem is that you didn't provide reliable sources in order to verify what you are saying let alone that he is real. There were 6 sources that were all blogs, which sadly cannot be cited as reliable sources, and there were links to his Myspace page, which are usually inappropriate for an encyclopedic article. How bout this, I can retrieve the contents of the article and paste them into your sandbox titled User:Kevizzle/The Juggernaught, which will allow you to work on the article without anyone bothering you or the page getting deleted. Then when you feel you have improved the article, you can let me know and I'll move it to the mainspace if the concerns have been addressed? Would that work for you?  « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) '' 08:49, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

article missing
I created an article yesterday on the financial regulatory authority FIMBRA which is missing. Since I had gone to some lengths to ensure it was accurate and had numerous references (including government Hansard reports) it should not have been deleted under the normal terms. Is there a fault with the systems or a delay before it is published? —Preceding unsigned comment added by QuantumPhysician (talk • contribs) 09:13, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Please sign your post by typing four tildes ( ~ ) or clicking the signature button above the edit box (as shown to the left ←). Do NOT sign in articles.


 * What is the article name? --—  Gadget850 (Ed)  talk  -  09:47, 25 April 2008 (UTC)


 * For some reason, the article at FIMBRA doesn't seem to have been created. There may have been a problem that caused this, as it doesn't seem to have been saved. You may want to prepare your article using a wordprocessor, before copying it in as a new article in Wikipedia just in case something unexpected happens. Remember to reference third-party reliable sources when creating your article in order to meet requirements on verifiability and notability, otherwise your article may be deleted. Thanks for editing and welcome to Wikipedia! Gazimoff Write Read 09:49, 25 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Looking at your contributions, I see that you added the FIMBRA link to Financial Services Authority, but I do not see that you ever created an article, at least not under your current name.  --—  Gadget850 (Ed)  talk  -  09:54, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Fimbra - Deleted per A7 (Group).  « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) '' 09:58, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi Quantum. The reason others didn't find the article deletion until Gonzo fan2007 is because you stated a different capitalization of the name you actually used, and our deletion log is case sensitive. The deletion log entry is here. If you look at the link provided in the preceding post, you'll see that the basis for deletion, section "A7" of the speedy deletion criteria, allows for speedy deletion of articles on certain topics when they do not assert importance or significance. Our notability standards (see Notability) have as their touchstone that an article be "the subject of significant treatment in independent, reliable sources". Notability and A7 are not the same but related. The speedy deletion bar is much lower, requiring only an assertion or indication of importance and no actual inclusion of sources, while establishing notability requires that proper sources actually exist. It is therefore very well established consensus that the inclusion of sources that are not clearly problematic (myspace etc., a companies own website, etc.) constitute an implicit assertion of importance for purposes of A7 assessment. The two sources you provided in the article appear reliable and certainly aren't clearly improper. For that reason, I believe the article was patently not a proper speedy deletion candidate and should be restored. I suggest you drop a polite note on the deleting administrator't talk page asking for reinstatement. If that is not fruitful, you have the option of taking the article to Deletion review, where I think you would prevail in having it restored. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:31, 25 April 2008 (UTC)


 * The references were not displayed in the article because it was missing search there for "AWB" finds WP:AWB, which appears to have some instructions. --Teratornis (talk) 15:52, 25 April 2008 (UTC)


 * There is no installer. Unzip to a folder and run AutoWikiBrowser.exe.  --—  Gadget850 (Ed)  talk  -  15:52, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

I am getting an error when I try to extract the zip file.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 16:09, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

It is an access denied error.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 16:11, 25 April 2008 (UTC)


 * What are you using to extract the zip? --—  Gadget850 (Ed)  talk  -  16:50, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * The evaluation version of Winzip 11.1.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 17:12, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * If you were running Cygwin, you would have the command-line version of, which you could use to test the archive with:

unzip -t filename.zip
 * If you don't want to install all of a Unix-like compatibility layer like Cygwin, you could install just the UnZip for Windows which is part of GnuWin32. Another option is to try downloading the zip file again. Maybe your copy got corrupted or truncated. Check the file size to make sure it is not smaller than it should be. --Teratornis (talk) 18:00, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, but wait, you said "access denied error." Possibly when you downloaded the file, the file mode makes the file unreadable by you. What version of Windows are you running? I'm not sure how the newer versions of windows handle file modes, but you can probably change it in Windows Explorer or whatever Microsoft is calling its file manager now. You might need to make the file readable by everyone, or at least readable by owner, and make the file owned by you. In Unix (Linux, Cygwin, etc.) this is straightforward, but in Windows I haven't done that in a while so I don't remember how to do it. --Teratornis (talk) 18:04, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I am using Vista Home Premium. I just uninstalled and reinstalled my WinZip.  I deleted and redownloaded AutoWikiBrowser4310.zip from http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=158332&package_id=177317&release_id=590227 . The file seems curiously small at 791KB.  Do they have the whole thing at sourceforge.  Is it really less than a Meg?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 18:19, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

(undent) I downloaded that file, and it tests OK for me: $ unzip -t AutoWikiBrowser4310.zip Archive: AutoWikiBrowser4310.zip testing: AutoWikiBrowser.exe     OK    testing: AutoWikiBrowser.exe.config   OK ... No errors detected in compressed data of AutoWikiBrowser4310.zip.

$ ls -hs Auto* 797K AutoWikiBrowser4310.zip Maybe you do not have write permission on the directory to which you are trying to unzip the files. --Teratornis (talk) 18:52, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * General tip: when you get a specific error message from a specific application on a specific operating system, sometimes you can get an explanation by searching on Google for keywords that include some or all of those items. For example, maybe: will find something useful. In my experience, almost all error messages from common applications stimulate people to pose questions on various help sites, and sometimes answers are available. For example, this one might help: Access Denied - insufficient privileges.. --Teratornis (talk) 18:59, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

I tried to run the .exe from within .zip What does the following mean: Description: Stopped working Files that help describe the problem: C:\Users\test\AppData\Local\Temp\WER1FF1.tmp.version.txt C:\Users\test\AppData\Local\Temp\WER30B4.tmp.mdmp Read our privacy statement: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=50163&clcid=0x0409 --TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 18:04, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Also, the exact error message I get upon attempting to extract is:

Error: Access is denied. Cannot create C:\Program Files\AutoWikiBrowser\AutoWikiBrowser.exe. --TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 18:09, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

When I replied that I wanted detail about this error I got the following:

Extracting to "C:\Program Files\AutoWikiBrowser\" Use Path: yes  Overlay Files: no Error:  Access is denied. Cannot create C:\Program Files\AutoWikiBrowser\AutoWikiBrowser.exe --TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 19:37, 26 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Have you tried asking at Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser? BencherliteTalk 19:39, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Link types
Links to IRC channels have a speech bubble next to them, and some links have little padlocks (secure site?) How are these images made, as I can't see any trace of them in edit mode? ...... Dendodge . Talk Help 15:45, 25 April 2008 (UTC)


 * It's the software - I'd assume something in MediaWiki:Common.css somewhere. Hers <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:gold">fold  (t/a/c) 15:52, 25 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks ......<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:#008000"> Dendodge . Talk Help 15:53, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * See mw:Manual:Interface. You might find a clue somewhere in that page or its subpages. Also, your question would be easier for more people to understand if you showed examples of the links you are talking about. If people could see an actual link, instead of having to imagine it, someone might recall having seen the incidental graphic you describe in its primary context. --Teratornis (talk) 16:00, 25 April 2008 (UTC)


 * https://en.wikipedia.org would be one example. --— Gadget850 (Ed)  <sup style="color:darkblue;">talk  -  16:05, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * By CSS. On :

background: url(external.png) center right no-repeat; padding-right: 13px; } .link-https { background: url(lock_icon.gif) center right no-repeat; padding-right: 16px; } .link-mailto { background: url(mail_icon.gif) center right no-repeat; padding-right: 18px; }	background: url(news_icon.png) center right no-repeat; padding-right: 18px; } .link-ftp { background: url(file_icon.gif) center right no-repeat; padding-right: 18px; } .link-irc { background: url(discussionitem_icon.gif) center right no-repeat; padding-right: 18px; }
 * 1) bodyContent a.external,
 * 2) bodyContent a[href ^="gopher://"] {
 * 1) bodyContent a[href ^="https://"],
 * 1) bodyContent a[href ^="mailto:"],
 * 1) bodyContent a[href ^="news://"] {
 * 1) bodyContent a[href ^="ftp://"],
 * 1) bodyContent a[href ^="irc://"],


 * I think this does it. x42bn6 Talk Mess  00:08, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

RC userbox image
Is there any other such template that has a different picture? -- Menti  sock  16:59, 25 April 2008 (UTC)


 * See Userboxes/Wikipedia/Vandalism. You can always roll your own using Userbox.  --—  Gadget850 (Ed)  <sup style="color:darkblue;">talk  -  17:03, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * You can also use substitute the userbox. Save the Page. Re Edit the Page. And then change the pic. <font color="#0000CD">SimpsonsFan08  <font color="#FF0000"> talk 17:33, 25 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Nice ideas. Thanks. -- Menti  sock  10:03, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Stalker
There is another editor who is persistently stalking, harassing me and threatening me with banning and blocking. Saying I have vandalized pages etc. How do you deal with such menaces to the community? Jmunroo (talk) 17:45, 25 April 2008 (UTC)


 * See Harassment, especially the section on Harassment that outlines specific actions you can take. --—  Gadget850 (Ed)  <sup style="color:darkblue;">talk  -  17:49, 25 April 2008 (UTC)


 * A name would be nice, too. <font face="Courier New"> Micro <font face="Lucida Console"><font color="#B22222">c h i p   <font color="#00880">08 17:50, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your help! - oh and the smiley face too! Jmunroo (talk) 18:04, 25 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I think he means User:Ratel, who is actually doing nothing ......<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:#008000"> Dendodge . Talk Help 18:43, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism?
Please take a look at this edit. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mexico&diff=prev&oldid=208129283

I think it is vandalism but I don't understand the coding enough to be certain. (Other recent edits by this IP were vandalism. )

Thanks, Wanderer57 (talk) 17:56, 25 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, probably is. I've reverted it and warned them. <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:blue">Hers <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:gold">fold  (t/a/c) 17:58, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * As an added note, IP's have no business editing the article milestones template - a user making changes to it can log in to do so. Any tweaking of already set parameters to that template is probably vandalism. <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:blue">Hers <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:gold">fold  (t/a/c) 17:59, 25 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Wanderer57 (talk) 18:00, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Logos
Is there any way to change the main WP logo, in the top left corner, on my userpage when people view it. I want to change it to a gold one. <font color="#0000CD">SimpsonsFan08 <font color="#FF0000"> talk 20:48, 25 April 2008 (UTC)


 * See WP:EIW for details on the possible customizations. You have more latitude for changing what you see than what other people see. --Teratornis (talk) 21:22, 25 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for that link. I zipped through it and found the answer— here is an example:

/* change the logo */ div.portlet#p-logo a { background: url(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/98/Wikipedia_small_logo_rounded.png) !important; background-repeat: no-repeat !important; width: 110px !important; height: 32px !important; }


 * Found this at . This goes in your monobook.css  --—  Gadget850 (Ed)  <sup style="color:darkblue;">talk  -  22:56, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm glad it was useful, and I'm especially glad that someone else plowed through the material to find a solution. I just added a bunch of name-anchor shortcuts to the Editor's index, so we can look up and copy those links faster to paste them into Help desk replies, including WP:EIW, so it's good to see the link works. (I had discussed adding those shortcuts to the Editor's index with John Broughton (the primary author) months ago, but for some reason we were thinking we would have to make a large number of separate redirect pages, one for each shortcut. Then today I was looking again at how the WP:NOT page implements its per-section shortcuts, and I had one of those "Oh, duh" moments. Only one redirect is necessary to make all the shortcuts one wants to particular anchors on a page. I guess in my stupidity I was thinking the stuff after the # character was part of the redirect page name - but it is not.) --Teratornis (talk) 06:57, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Unreferenced tags
Where can I get a list of unreferenced and semi/partially unreferenced tags? Thanks. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 21:15, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * See Template messages/Sources of articles. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:20, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * WP:TM has practically any template you could want. -- Kesh (talk) 21:24, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Excellent. Thanks, guys.Zain Ebrahim (talk) 22:11, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Nominating an article for features status
I do not know if you can do this but I would like to suggest the article on salvia divinorum http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvia_divinorum

be made a featured article.

A pharmacy professor at Ohio State University said it was worthy of publication as a review article in any scholarly pharmacy journals. The author has done a wonderful job on a tough topic.

ThanksNatalie kupferberg (talk) 22:25, 25 April 2008 (UTC)Natalie Kupferberg
 * Note that it is recommended that major contributors to the article nominate it, so you might like to ask some of the contributors to the article, maybe they still have some stuff to do. <tt>The Dominator</tt><tt>TalkEdits</tt> 22:48, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * See WP:EIW. --Teratornis (talk) 22:54, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

ref help
I was working on the Shoprite (South Africa) Article but the refs I added make half dissapeer. I can't find the problem, so I have left the page unsaved and I am asking for help. Thanks Samuell Lift me up or put me down 22:39, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

''This article is about the South African food distributor. For other companies with the same or similar name, see ShopRite''.

Shoprite (jse: SHP also listed on Namibia Stock Exchange and Lusaka Stock Exchange)

History
The company was founded in 1979 when eight stores in the Cape Town were purchased for one million Rand. The company later aquired Grand Bazaars, quadrupling it's outlets.<ref name="History"> In 1991 the company acquired Checkers.<ref name="History"> The company's first store outside of South Africa was opened in 1995 in Lusaka, Zambia.<ref name="History"> That same year the company acquired distributor Sentra, allowing the company to expand into franchising.<ref name="History"> In 1997 struggling OK Bazaars was acquired by the company from South African Breweries for one rand, adding 157 supermarkets and 146 Furniture stores to the company.<ref name="History"> In 2002 the company acquired the Madagascar stores of French chain Champion.<ref name="History"> The same year the company bought three Tanzanian supermarkets from Score Supermarket and opened it first Hypermarket outside of South Africa in Mauritius.<ref name="History"> In 2004 the company opened it's first store outside of Africa in Mumbai, India. <ref name="History"><ref name= India>

"+" when editing talk page
When editing a talk page, there used to be a "+" on the "edit this page" tab, and clicking it would automatically start a new topic/section at the end. For the last several days, this "+" hasn't been there. Has something changed about the system, or have I goofed up a preference/option somewhere? Bubba73 (talk), 23:27, 25 April 2008 (UTC)


 * It's been renamed to "new section" or "new comment" or something. You can change it back in Special:Preferences. I did. <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:blue">Hers <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:gold">fold  (t/a/c) 23:29, 25 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Ah, "new section" tab - I hadn't noticed that. Actually I probably prefer that new way, thanks.  Bubba73 (talk), 23:35, 25 April 2008 (UTC)