Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2008 August 19

= August 19 =

Searching within my own contributions
Hi, all. Is there a way that I can search my own contributions for those that match a particular search string? For example, may I find all the articles I've edited that start with the letter 'A'? - Richard Cavell (talk) 02:08, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

helpme templates
Where is the list of people who have the helpme template on their talk pages? I'd like to help with their questions, but I don't know how to find the list of them. --Alinnisawest(talk) 00:14, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Category:Wikipedians looking for help. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 00:16, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Prefixed a colon. Shortcut: CAT:HELP, which is easy to remember.  x42bn6 Talk Mess  00:18, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, yes, thank you all! --Alinnisawest(talk) 00:19, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Bettie Page
My correction about her not modeling for sexually explicit photos was removed. It was suggested that I go to the talk page and post something but I can't see where I can post there--how do I post on that page? Also was suggested that I write the person who removed it. Can't find out how to do that either. She did model for sexually explicit photos, as definied by Wikipedia itself, and the photos are there for all the world to see selling on Ebay. Why are photos on Ebay not a reliable source? And how do I write the ones who took the edit down? How can you cite a source if you can't find it in writing but only the actual photos themselves? The article on Wikipedia about Bettie Page in in total denial about her modeling explicitly. Why is this information not corrected and when someone does try to correct it it is removed? Don't get me wrong -- I love Bettie Page but the information makes her work out to be something less than it was.Potaf (talk) 00:42, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Click here to get to the article's talk page. You can add a new section there to start a discussion about the issue. Good luck, and happy editing! --Tkynerd (talk) 01:00, 19 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Click the "new section" tab to start a new section at Talk:Bettie Page. The editor who removed it can be contacted at User talk:Jca2112 - but please don't: You are causing confusion by scattered posts on different pages, the removal was correct, this has already been explained, and you will probably get more explanations in at least one of the places you have already posted. Another time, please follow up where you started a discussion (New contributors' help page) by clicking the "edit" link to the right. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:13, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

wolf-hirschhorn syndrome
In the intro, you list the first reference incorrectly as Cooper and Wolf. You listed it incorrectly in the reference list as Cooper and Hirschhorn. The correct reference is Hirschhorn, K. and Cooper, H.L. Mammalian Chromosome Newsletter, 4:14, 1961. Please fix this. Thanks.

Kurt Hirschhorn, MD Professor Emeritus of Pediatrics, Genetics and Genomic Sciences, and Medicine Chairman Emeritus os Pediatrics Mount Sinai School of Medicine New York, NY 10029 Help me —Preceding unsigned comment added by Greekhelmet (talk • contribs) 03:02, 19 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks. You could have done it yourself, but I'll add it for you. It should be fixed within 15 seconds after this post NuclearWarfare  contact me My work  03:04, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

US flag
How many stars in the flag of United States? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.81.166.6 (talk) 04:05, 19 August 2008 (UTC)


 * See Flag of the United States for everything you could ever want to know about, well, the flag of the United States. Confusing Manifestation (Say hi!) 04:10, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Adding a Citation to a Semi Protected Article
I have a citation for a couple of pieces of information in the Crusades article. Specifically, the portion related to Historical Perspective and Eastern orthodoxy. Because the article is semi-protected I cannot figure out how to add the citation. How do I do it? Cheers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JPlantje (talk • contribs) 05:16, 19 August 2008 (UTC)


 * If you know how you want to word it use the Editsemiprotected template to request the edit on the article's talk page. On the semi-protected article, click the view source tab, copy the text you are planning on changing, modify it, make sure to preview the change, and save the changed text on the articles talk page. -Optigan13 (talk) 05:20, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Information required.
Sir, I am a new user to your wonderful world of knowledge. I am really surprized to see the collection of so many beautiful articles here. But is there any CD released for Wikipaedia, with which I can explore every article without getting connected to the Internet (i.e., an installable program of Wikipaedia like Webster and Britannica)?117.201.98.78 (talk) 05:59, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * There is currently a project to develop a release/print version WP:1.0 in the future. Although the English wikipedia has not successfully completed this yet, although I believe the german wikipedia has successfully done so. -Optigan13 (talk) 06:06, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * There have been static releases before. See WP:V0.5, 2006 Wikipedia CD Selection and Wikipedia CD Selection for more details. Tito xd (?!? - cool stuff) 06:13, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * You may find TomeRaider useful. --Teratornis (talk) 06:42, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Transcluding templates
It seems that 4 tildes ~ on a template will not convert to your signature if you transclude it - you must substitute it. Is there any way to get around this? MSGJ (talk) 06:35, 19 August 2008 (UTC) to transclude the signature in a template. -Optigan13 (talk) 06:38, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * See the inside of welcomeg, where they use
 * Yes I know that trick. My point was that if you transclude welcomeg your signature is not produced. I wondered if there was a way to make that work. MSGJ (talk) 07:20, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry I read too quickly through your question and misinterpreted it. You want to show a signature in a template without substituting the template, but still showing your substituted signature. I'm not sure how to do it, but why would you want to? -Optigan13 (talk) 08:34, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't think it's possible, sorry - if it is the date and time will update rather than stay fixed ¡ Dendodge  .. Talk Contribs ! 08:53, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Good point. Yes I understand now. Thanks for your help, marking as resolved. MSGJ (talk) 09:45, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Multiple collapsible elements
Is it feasible to link collapsible elements so that they expand and collapse together? The specific context I have in mind is in terms of a route diagram, such as:

  

And not only for the collapsible portions to toggle together, but also to put the toggle link up at the top.

From what I see of the help files describing collapsible action, each one is completely independent. Can anyone tell me otherwise?

Thanks Ansbaradigeidfran (talk) 09:16, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Inserting an image with a caption but without the inner frame
I searched the documentation but unfortunately I did not find a way how to simply insert an image to an article with a caption but without the inner frame. When I want to insert an image with a caption I am supposed to use or  but the problem is that both options add two frames around the image: the inner frame tightly surrounds the image and the outer frame loosely surrounds both the image and the caption. Most of pictures which do not have rectangular shape (i.e. using transparent background) cannot be aesthetically placed in such conditions. See for example the first image here: Secure Digital card. Could you please help me how to add an image the same way but just without the inner frame? --pabouk (talk) 10:06, 19 August 2008 (UTC)


 * You can do this with some templates, such as quote box2. --—— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk  -  11:35, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you Gadget850! I used: The result is good. --pabouk (talk) 13:10, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Changing an Autobiography to an article
Hi there, I would like to edit and make my page be more of an artickle then an autobiography. I keep getting the message on top of the page. I treid to edit it several times but can't seem to do the proper thing. I also read your examples but still it doesn't work. Could you kindly guide me through it. Many thanks.

The page is about Marco Susino Marco Susino —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.147.106.19 (talk) 10:20, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not entirely sure what you're asking. You should have a look at WP:YFA and WP:T as a start and also look at to properly cite the online sources in the article. I made a few minor edits to that page. Hope this helps. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 12:05, 19 August 2008 (UTC)


 * But please note, if you are Mr Susino, you have a major conflict of interest and should not edit the article about you. – ukexpat (talk) 18:28, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

No source links available.
I have searched this Wiki for the Batsman-Minutes details but in vain!!! I know that "M" stands for the total number of Minutes a particular batsman has kept in crease. Unfortunately i was not able to find these details anywhere to link it with the source page or sites, which would obviously get deleted from the postings page...

thanx n regards, Jerry Louis —Preceding unsigned comment added by Crickwiki (talk • contribs) 13:52, 19 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Im not sure i quite understand your question. This is the english encyclopedia, not the cricket encyclopedia. What do you actually want to do? Create an article on batsman minutes?  Monster Under Your Bed  (talk) 13:55, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Victory_Theatre
Dear Wikipedia Editors -

I am hoping you can help me correct the title of the listing of my organization, The New Victory Theater in NYC. It's actually a very simple spelling change, but I didn't see a way for me to act as an individual and effect the name of the page. Our copywritten name is "The New Victory Theater" not theatre--can you please change the name for us? We'd appreciate it.

Sincerely,

Jamie O'Brien Marketing Associate The New Victory Theater/New 42nd Street, Inc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.215.89.6 (talk) 14:28, 19 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Done. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  14:50, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

You are too much trouble
How many pages of "contact us" does someone have to go through to ask a question? Your site is difficult to use, which makes people like me not want to contribute.

I created a login and a password this morning.

But it is not recognized.

Sure, I could read the 15 pages of "read this before contacting wikipedia" but I am all about simplicity.

So, what's my problem.

I created a login and a password. I did not give you my email.

Now I cannot even find the "send" button to send you this email !!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.157.61.251 (talk) 14:30, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The English Wikipedia is one of the world's top-ten most popular Web sites. Every site in the top ten is incredibly complicated, but sites like Google hide most of this complexity from the user, by greatly limiting what the user can do. Wikipedia takes the opposite approach, by letting the user do just about everything. Therefore, on Wikipedia, you will see lots of complexity. Wikipedia is also a do it yourself project, which means everybody has to be largely self-reliant and pull their own weight as much as possible, by reading and following instructions, some of which certainly are complex, because many types of power can only come from complex systems. (The only known way to make complex systems simple for people who don't want to read instructions is to hire a human expert who did read the instructions. For example, most people don't want to go to medical school, so instead we hire physicians to treat us. Since most people have been dealing with human experts all their lives, it is natural to expect that on Wikipedia there will also be experts to serve us. But this is not quite true. Wikipedia is a collaborative editing system in which users interact as peers. While there are new users and experienced users, every user is really on the same footing with respect to the overall system - we are all just reading instructions and trying to follow them. Do it yourself is not for everyone, so if this makes you uncomfortable, you might try some other hobby.) Wikipedia's account creation feature works very well for lots of users, but for some reason it can fail for some people, possibly depending on the particulars of their Internet access. Unfortunately, these kinds of problems are almost impossible for Help desk volunteers to diagnose for other people. In some cases, a few people just can't seem to log in to Wikipedia, or stay logged in. Be sure you are typing your username and password exactly as you entered them (both items are case sensitive). If you did not enter an e-mail address, then Wikipedia cannot send you a new password. In the worst case, you can still contribute to Wikipedia even without an account, although an account gives you some extra privileges. You can also try making another account, and this time you should enter an e-mail address so you have a way to recover your password if you should forget it. To learn the basics of editing on Wikipedia, take the tutorial. --Teratornis (talk) 16:38, 19 August 2008 (UTC)


 * What is your user name? Your above text (which isn't an email) was "sent" correctly, presumably by pressing the "Save page" button which is what Wikipedia calls it because it's a wiki where you can change existing pages and press that button to save the changes so everybody can see them. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:46, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Log in, create an account.
Tried twice, can not get in. I would like to add some information about a drum, called Tubano. I just bought one and love it. As this is a fairly new instrument, I think 2007, there is no history for it. What ever we write, now, will be the history.

This process, is way to hard. Please contact   Walt Smith —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.154.79.105 (talk) 16:33, 19 August 2008 (UTC)


 * We have a Tubanos article, but it appears to be the work of someone who is new to Wikipedia editing and has not yet learned much about how to write for an enyclopedia. Therefore, other users have placed some messagebox templates on the article to point out that it has problems that need fixing. Yes, learning Wikipedia can be hard, depending on which parts you choose to tackle first. However, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and if you wanted to get a job writing for, say, Encyclopedia Britannica, that would be even harder. If you cannot log in to Wikipedia, you can still edit the Tubanos article. Did you enter an e-mail address when you created your account? If so, you can tell Wikipedia to send you a password by e-mail and try logging in with that. User names and passwords are case sensitive. --Teratornis (talk) 17:44, 19 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Your statement "What ever we write, now, will be the history" sounds like you want to write things in conflict with policies like Verifiability and No original research. Wikipedia content should already have been published by reliable sources. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:45, 19 August 2008 (UTC)


 * See Help:Logging in and please be more specific about the problem. What do you do and what happens? PrimeHunter (talk) 19:48, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Editing The List Of Defunct Magazines
The new revival issue of Bear Magazine is now out. Therefore, I'd like to remove it from the list of Defunct Magazines in America. How do I do that? The edit function isn't helping.

Angina Floss (talk) 16:54, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * That's not a list, it's a Category. You have to edit Bear Magazine to remove it from the category (I have done so). Algebraist 16:59, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * See WP:LIST to learn more about list articles on Wikipedia. And definitely read Help:Category, perhaps several times, because categories on Wikipedia can be one of the most baffling features for new users here. Categories confused me for some time when I was new. --Teratornis (talk) 17:47, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

User:TimLambert
Hi I would like you to place a ban on Timlambert for incessantly editing Helen Darville's wiki page. TimLmbert has made numerous attempts at editing Darville's page to the point where the page owner has angrily asked him to cease and desist. He appears to be a serial editor on numerous pages preferring to display his personal opinion rather than the truth.

The edit he is attempting creates defamation issues as TimLambert is editing by adding information that is irrelevant.

Please block him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Helen_Darville&action=history —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.190.40.15 (talk) 17:12, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * He's reverting unsourced information that you're adding. Hardly vandalism. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 17:22, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Lambert's "offense" is his removal of vandalisms inserted repeatedly into the article in question by one or more IPs. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  17:27, 19 August 2008 (UTC)


 * See also Biographies of living persons. Enforcing this policy is not vandalism, and note that nobody owns an article. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:41, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Pic from FA
Can this pic be used? It states it is from a music video, but it is not. The copyrights seem all wrong. What is the appropriate tag for this pic? --Endless Dan 17:45, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Deleting an account
How do I delete my account? --63.135.158.193 (talk) 18:48, 19 August 2008 (UTC)ChuckCoke
 * Due to the fact that Wikipedia content is licensed under the GFDL, all edits must be kept for attribution purposes, and so your account cannot be deleted. You do, however, have the right to vanish, which you can exercise by (1) requesting your user page (found at Special:Mypage) and/or user talk page (found at Special:Mytalk) be deleted, by adding the template to them; (2) requesting to change your username to something that is unconnected with you (possibly a random collection of letters and numbers); (3) never logging in to your account again. If you do this, you are still free to register a new username if you wish to continue editing Wikipedia. Woody (talk) 19:04, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * And you don't have an account. Kfc 18645  talk  06:36, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

posting my company info
How do I list/post my companies information? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Willisayres (talk • contribs) 19:35, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Short answer - don't. Unless it satisfies the criteria of notability for inclusion, anything you post will most likely be deleted as being spam or promotional in nature. That, and as you have a connection with the company, means you have a conflict of interest. If your company really is notable enough to merit inclusion, someone will write about it soon enough. GbT/c 19:37, 19 August 2008 (UTC)


 * See also FAQ/Business. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:29, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

two files seem to be missing
The image files Image:Chessxwd45.svg and Image:Chessxwl45.svg seem to have disappeared. We need these to make chess position diagrams. Can we get the files back? Bubba73 (talk), 20:17, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I can't find any evidence that such images have ever existed. If I understand the documentation correctly, this is generic code: you have to change the x into a piece-identifying letter to get a white piece (on either a black or white square). Algebraist 20:29, 19 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I found out that someone was working on the chess diagram template, and the file Image:Chess xwd44.png is there, so now the chess diagram is working again. It might have been a little error by the person editing the template. (For a while it was calling for the files above.)  Example: cross-check. Bubba73 (talk), 20:32, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

I am trying to do something that makes sense
There were two DIFFERENT bands listed in one entry. One of them I work with so I wanted to separate them and make sure the info was current and add more references. I tried to do this, but what I did was deleted. Please explain to me why? —Preceding unsigned comment added by BigMachineMedia (talk • contribs) 20:29, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * This isn't really an answer, but Ism (band) - Manhattan Alt-Rock Band wasn't actually deleted; it was converted to a redirect to Ism (band). —teb728 t c 20:44, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

So how can I change it to Alt Rock instead of Punk band? —Preceding unsigned comment added by BigMachineMedia (talk • contribs) 21:17, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Help help!!!!BigMachineMedia (talk)Jamie —Preceding undated comment was added at 22:12, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but the article has been deleted: An administrator decided that the article did not establish the notability of either band. See WP:MUSIC for the notability guidelines. See also WP:RS for the guideline for reliable sources to verify the notability (and other article content). —teb728 t c 08:00, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Countries
Logged in, when I view countries' pages, the images are massive (however, not on any other page or picture - just coats of arms and flags etc.) but as soon as I log out, the problem vanishes. I have checked settings, but they are normal. What should I do, or in other words, what is wrong??? Jared Preston (talk) 21:08, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not seeing this on the first couple of countries I tried. Where exactly are you seeing problems? Algebraist 21:12, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Germany, France, United Kingdom... I don't have the same logged into German Wiki, and all my settings are the same. I just don't know what it is, because if it was my browser settings it shouldn't matter if I was logged in or not. Jared Preston (talk) 21:15, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Check Special:Preferences > Files > Thumbnail size. This should default to 180px. Try Purge and Bypass your cache. --—— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk  -  21:22, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Could this be related to recent fiddling with infobox country? Algebraist 21:24, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, looks like someone had a little fiddle. Thanks for clearing that up! Jared Preston (talk) 21:33, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't see how that could have caused this problem, mind, but then when templates get that complicated I stop understanding them. Algebraist 21:37, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Me too. Whoosh. Over my head! Jared Preston (talk) 21:39, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Testing seems to indicate that that didn't cause the problem (at least on my browser and settings). It is fixed for you, now, right? Algebraist 21:43, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yup. Cheers fella! Jared Preston (talk) 21:46, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * All is explained: someone broke the parser (temporarily). Algebraist 23:56, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

translation
I am trying to find the page that translated info in physician assistants, into italian. I cannot seem to translate it anymore. how do I do that?21:14, 19 August 2008 (UTC)~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.213.238.0 (talk)


 * Wikipedia does not appear to have an Italian equivalent of the English article Physician assistant. It only links to the Spanish article es:Asociado médico. I don't know Italian so I cannot search the Italian Wikipedia at http://it.wikipedia.org/ to see whether there is an article with similar content. There is no automatic translation in Wikipedia. Maybe you used an online machine translator unrelated to Wikipedia, for example one listed at Comparison of machine translation applications. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:52, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * If you want a machine translation of the Physician assistant article into Italian, you can do that with the Google translation template:


 * --Teratornis (talk) 04:18, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Citing images found in Wikipedia
I would like to use some photos found on Wikipedia in a document I am creating, which I will be making 75-100 copies of (but not selling them), and I don't know how to cite them on my photo credit page. Some are in the public domain (such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Mirabelle_another_tree.jpg), others are under the GNU Free Documentation License (such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Agapanthus_africanus.jpg), and still others are under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike license versions 2.5, 2.0, and 1.0 (such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:C_viminalis3.jpg). Can you show me how to cite them?

Thank you!

144.228.141.150 (talk) 22:49, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Legally no citation is necessary for public domain images. For those under other licenses, I would have said see WP:Citing Wikipedia but I don't see anything specific to images there. Rmhermen (talk) 22:54, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * (ec)For the public domain image, you can do what you like with it: that's what public domain means. You might want to credit the creator (in this case Bogdangiusca), but you certainly don't have to. For the CC by-SA images, you have to comply with the license summarized here, which requires that you credit the author (in this case Peter1968 and release the new image under the same license. You can do this with a caption 'This image is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike license versions 2.5, 2.0, and 1.0.' or similar, and preferably the url for the license too. The GFDL is trickier: it requires that you identify the copyright holder and state the license, just as for Creative Commons, but it also requires that you reproduce the entire license (here) somewhere in your document. You stated that you don't intend to sell them, but for the sake of completeness, all these images can be used for any commercial purpose, as long as you comply with the licenses. (disclaimer:I am not a lawyer and the only legally binding texts are the licenses themselves). Algebraist 22:59, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, Algebraist is certainly right. If you would have to cite any source it would be the original upload "site", and you definitely don't need that. Cheers, -- Meld    shal    42?   23:43, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Personal Biographies
Hi I just wanted to find out if I can create a personal bio about outstanding individuals (who are not famous) on Wikipedia as an information source for others to reference. I figured I would check before creating them, if its no allowed please let me know.

Hope your day is going well.

Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Financialglory (talk • contribs) 23:18, 19 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia doesn't work on famous so much as it does on notable, and more generally verifiable and neutral. On Wikipedia, for a person or thing to be notable means that they have been the subject of multiple, non-trivial mentions in reliable sources (e.g. newspaper articles, etc.), so if your "outstanding individuals" have been recognised already then there shouldn't be a problem. Because it contains a bunch of useful links, I'll also include the standard "article creation" message:
 * Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.


 * Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.


 * If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Your first article and How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. Confusing Manifestation (Say hi!) 23:23, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

phillips Idowu - triple jumper Olympics
Hi. My name is Oluyinka Idowu and yes I did compete in 1992 olympic games and I was commonwealth silver medalist in long jump in victoria canada 1994 but I am not Phillips sister (at least that I know of!) please correct this as soon as possible as I have had reporters on my door step for last couple of weeks wanting to know my comments on his chances for Gold in the olympics etc.also being a former olympian myself. Have been trying to explain I am not his sister and eventually found out they got information from your site.

thanks

Oluyinka Idowu —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.183.134.129 (talk) 23:58, 19 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I couldn't find an independent source to the claim and removed it. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:10, 20 August 2008 (UTC)