Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2008 August 28

= August 28 =

making a disambiguation
i want to know how i can make a disambiguation of Triple-double. this articel is about baskertball, but tripple-double also means when a woman has 2 dicks in her mouth, 2 in her arse and 2 in her pussy. it's written about on wikipedia already. can u tell me how i can make disambiguations between these articles? ta.
 * What is the name of the non-basketball Triple-double article? We can fix this for you if we know that name. -Arch dude (talk) 03:00, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Searching Wikipedia with Google:
 * finds the articles:
 * Triple-double - the basketball case
 * List of sexual positions - which appears to display the non-basketball case
 * See WP:DISAMBIG for instructions on how to make a disambiguation page. Since there seem to be only two meanings of this term on Wikipedia so far, and only one has its own article, we probably don't need a separate disambiguation page. --Teratornis (talk) 04:15, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * See WP:DISAMBIG for instructions on how to make a disambiguation page. Since there seem to be only two meanings of this term on Wikipedia so far, and only one has its own article, we probably don't need a separate disambiguation page. --Teratornis (talk) 04:15, 28 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Right. And in this case there is only a single dictionary-definition-like line about a rarely used meaning of "Triple-double" in List of sexual positions. Additionally, the page history indicates that it can vary whether triple-double is mentioned at all, and a disambiguation link elsewhere probably wouldn't be removed if the mention is removed from the article again. Wikipedia is not a dictionary, so I doubt a hatnote to this rare meaning is worth adding to Triple-double at this point. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:28, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

New infobox
If I'm making a new infobox, can I make the template page, try it, and then self delete when I finish. I'm testing a new version of an infobox already in use. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 01:12, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Well I made it, I'll nominate it for deletion when I'm done. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 01:20, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict) Yes, assuming you experiment with a copy not transcluded in articles. Many things in templates cannot be tested with preview but requires a saved template. Only admins can delete pages but you can easily request that with db-author. You can also place a test template on a user subpage and include the namespace when you transclude it, for example like . That way other editors are unlikely to suddenly edit it or use it in an article. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:26, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I am testing the template on a subpage, but I wasn't sure how to do that without the template existing so i made one with the same name as the one it should hopefully replace except with (test template) after the template title. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 01:29, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * That is also fine (but don't complain if others edit "your" test template in template space). PrimeHunter (talk) 01:33, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Apparently, any page can be a template. It's treated as a page if you link to it (reference it) with square brackets, and it's treated as a template if you reference it with curly brackets. Therefore, you can create a test template as a subpage on your userspace: (e.g., User:Grk1011/testtemplate.) When you complete your test, simply blank the page: no need ask an admin to delete it. You can use it again later to test a different template, or you can move it into template space after you complete your test, all without the need for administrative intervention. -Arch dude (talk) 02:57, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Help:Template explains the rules for transcluding pages as templates from various namespaces. For example, just now I'm editing a navigation template for articles relating to Power station technology in User:Teratornis/Sandbox2. --Teratornis (talk) 04:24, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Roe v Wade
When I type Roe v Wade into the search box on the left-hand side bar it prompts me to download a document. It only happens on Roe v Wade, so I'm just concerned about what that file might be and I'm not willing to try it to find out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.171.18.247 (talk) 02:43, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

~Apparently it has to be Roe v wade to get the prompt to download the document. Typing in Roe v Wade takes you to the page as appropriate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.171.18.247 (talk) 02:47, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmm... OK. First, you should sign your posts on discussion pages with four tildes (like this: ~ ), this will make a signature so we can identify who wrote the post instead of relying on the bot (automated program) that signs unsigned posts (just remember not to sign your contributions to articles!). To address the problem: what is your browser/operating system? And is the file named "index.php"? Thanks. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 03:10, 28 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm actually not logged in right now, so you're still just going to get an IP when I sign it. It happens when I try to access the page through AOL's browser, and I'm on Windows Vista. No, the file is named Roe_v_wade. 03:10, 28 August 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.171.18.247 (talk) 02:59, 28 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Odd. I just get redirected to Roe v. Wade. That shouldn't happen on Wikipedia- you never have to download anything to view any pages. What are the exact steps you go through to get his message? --Alinnisawest, Dalek Emperor (extermination requests here) 03:27, 28 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Is the problem reproducible? What happens if you browse to Roe v wade from a link? Some problems with Wikipedia can be sporadic things resulting from network problems. When I had my previous flaky cable modem, I used to get occasionally broken pages on Wikipedia. Do you have network connection problems? Are you using dialup or broadband or wireless? --Teratornis (talk) 03:56, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Adding new link to links at top of page...
All right, I know you can add links to the lefthand navigation and so on through your CSS, but what about for the links in the top righthand part of the screen- the "my talk - my preferences - my watchlist" part? The link to my userpage (at User:Alinnisawest) isn't really the link to my actual userpage, it's more of a cover page for a few things. My actual userpage is located at User:Alinnisawest/User Page. Can I put a link for that up in the top righthand links? (wow, I just explained that very oddly. If you have no idea what I'm going on about, just ask and I'll try to clarify it!) --Alinnisawest, Dalek Emperor ( extermination requests here ) 03:37, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

is the javascript code. - Icewedge (talk) 04:06, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! I'm hopeless when it comes to that stuff! --Alinnisawest, Dalek Emperor ( extermination requests here ) 04:10, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

OK, got it in, any way to change its position, so it's between "Alinnisawest" and "my talk"? --Alinnisawest, Dalek Emperor ( extermination requests here ) 04:15, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * If the answer isn't documented in one of the links under WP:EIW, someone should add it. Maybe WikiProject User scripts/Guide sheds some light. (I don't really know, I haven't messed with JavaScript on Wikipedia much.) --Teratornis (talk) 04:34, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, the guide says exactly how to do this. It isn't linked directly from the index though. Algebraist 22:14, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

iit jee
Once qualified IIT JEE and took admission in IIT Guwahati, can I give JEE second time? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.198.81.57 (talk) 03:41, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * You appear to be asking about the Joint Entrance Examination. This is the English Wikipedia, an encyclopedia with articles. Wikipedia has no affiliation with the subjects of most articles here (except the articles specifically about Wikipedia). Therefore you should contact the organization mentioned in whichever article you may have been reading, perhaps IIT Guwahati. (Note to English speakers not from India who may be reading this: in India, to "give" a test means the same as to "take" a test in the United States.) --Teratornis (talk) 04:29, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

how do you get a ip
how do you get an ip cheers cyberdemon4 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cyberdemon4 (talk • contribs) 08:47, 28 August 2008 (UTC)


 * See IP address. — Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 09:08, 28 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Cyberdemon, please sign your posts with four tildes (~). Thanks! I c eUnshattered  [ t ] 17:35, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Can you change a pages title name?
How do I change a page's actual name so one has to type something different in the search engine in order to find it?

Thanks guys —Preceding unsigned comment added by Simonmurray1 (talk • contribs)


 * As a warning, be careful when changing the names of articles. If it may be controversial you might want to discuss it on the article's talk page beforehand.  If you are trying to fix a typo or something that may not be controversial, you can use the "move" button, which is found at the very top of the page.  Bvlax2005 (talk) 09:40, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Or at least you can when you have autoconfirmed status, which requires a four-day-old account that has made ten edits. Algebraist 11:47, 28 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Your request is not entirely clear. If you want to be able to type in a title different to the actual title but still be taken to the actual article, this can be done simply by creating a Redirect.  See WP:REDIRECT.  Dolphin51 (talk) 06:22, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

How to change colour
How do change the Fill colour of a table?

How do you change the text colour after you change the fill colour in table? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lishan88 (talk • contribs) 10:07, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * There is some good info at Help:Table  Gtstricky Talk or C 12:46, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

ADDING PICTURES TO A WIKI PAGE
I have created some wiki pages and need to add some diagrams and graphs, which are in a word file, to help in the explanation of the topic but i do not know how to do this. Could I please get some help on how to do this —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ggd101 (talk • contribs) 13:04, 28 August 2008 (UTC)


 * First you need to upload the image. See Upload.  Then you need to add to the article to display it (my recoommendation is: find an article with an image and copy how that does it.) RJFJR (talk) 14:15, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Just to expand on that - you will not be able to upload a Word file. You will have to upload the diagrams etc in a graphic file format supported by Wikipedia. If you created these diagrams, you should consider uploading them to Commons so that they are available to all the other Wikipedia projects. – ukexpat (talk) 15:54, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Template:Infobox Dancer
Template:Infobox Dancer has no active discussion page and its most active editor has not edited in over ten weeks. No article linked to the templates seems to have figured out how to use about half of the parameters. How can I get someone to tell me if it is working correctly and how to use it. It needs a page showing how to properly parameterize each field and what the template would look like if filled in?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 14:02, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Doesn't the documentation page give that kind of information? –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  14:08, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I can not figure out how to use it at Misty Copeland. I wanted to use a second infobox when I got to her professional ballet career.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 23:13, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

downloading content from wikipedia database
how one can download some content from wikipedia of his intrest? i mean one can browse one article but if he like to download whole article in one step(not by browsing and download each and every page), what is the correct and recommended way/method? 202.125.143.75 (talk) 15:22, 28 August 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.125.143.75 (talk) 14:51, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * For medium numbers of articles, you can use Special:Export to get the articles in XML format; that's probably the easiest way, but you'll get the wikitext of the articles rather than the HTML version. For very large numbers of articles, there are periodic database dumps which contain all the articles in Wikipedia; these tend to be very large, though. It's also possible to retrieve articles programmatically by using web spider programs such as wget, but please don't download more than 1 page a second using this sort of program. --ais523 15:53, 28 August 2008 (UTC)


 * You can use Special:Export to get the database content of multiple pages at once. If you want to download all of Wikipedia, use http://download.wikimedia.org instead. Pyrospirit  ( talk  ·  contribs ) 15:50, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Hexadecimal for color of links in lefthand navigation?
Bit of an odd question, I know, but does anyone know the hexadecimal for the color of the links in the lefthand navigation? It's not straight blue, it's a slightly different shade. --Alinnisawest, Dalek Empress ( extermination requests here ) 15:12, 28 August 2008 (UTC)


 * . Pyrospirit  ( talk  ·  contribs ) 15:45, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks! --Alinnisawest,Dalek Empress ( extermination requests here ) 17:03, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Permission to cross link web sites
(We have stated a new Wikipedia thats is for MMA only, Mixed Martial Arts, it is called "Fightwiki" here is the web site http://www.mmalinker.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page and we were wondering if it would be OK to cross link some of our pages with yours. This not not spamming, but only another way to promote mma. The few times I have tried to put a link on "Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia" it was deleted with in minutes. I realize that many spam your site as do ours, so I am asking permission to cross link your Mixed Martial arts pages with ours. We have added many links to Wikipedia from our site. As I said, we are nothing but mma fans trying to help teach people about MMA.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blacksheepdon (talk • contribs) 15:19, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, here we mostly consider spam and promotion the same thing. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not an advertisement and not a repository of whatever anyone wants to put here. You could mention Fightwiki on your userpage, and possibly add it to the external links section of the Mixed martial arts article. --Alinnisawest, Dalek Empress ( extermination requests here ) 15:22, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Before adding your website to an article, be sure to review the external links guidelines. Cheers!  TN ‑ X - Man  15:23, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Also (and this is very important): Fightwiki is a wiki; it is not "a Wikipedia"! Only Wikipedia is Wikipedia. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  15:27, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

(Sorry for the confusion, did not mean to compare our wiki to Wikipedia, and maybe I mis-stated my question, we are not trying to promote our site.But to only help educate mma fans, to us, it is only another resource to be used to help learn about mma.This is why I am asking permission, if the powers that be in Wikipedia do not wish us to cross link our site, we will not do so, but we would like to very much.Also if allowed, how should we word a link with out it seeming like spam, example, when I linked our site before I used the words,"For another indepth view into mma, see "Fightwiki", it was deleted with in minutes) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blacksheepdon (talk • contribs) 15:43, 28 August 2008 (UTC)


 * There are no "powers that be". That is a common misconception about Wikipedia.  There is simply a user consensus.  If the user consensus suddenly decided that every page in Wikipedia should have pictures of hedgehogs on them, then every page in Wikipedia would have pictures of hedgehogs in them.  The issue you are addressing is covered in WP:EL.  The consensus is that it is not acceptable to link to fan sites, spam sites, tiny wikis with 10-20 users, personal homepages, etc... Wikipedia is an encyclopedia.  The links should go to pages that have content that is of similar type: not fan stuff, not some guy's incoherent rambling, not sites trying to sell you stuff.  As for the particular case of linking to wikis, many people create wikis and decide that the best way to get users is to link to their wiki from Wikipedia.  The consensus is against that.  Instead, get users, make your wiki a respectable source of information, and then link to it from Wikipedia.  An example of a wiki that is a respectable source of information is LostPedia.  It has a lot of users, is updated frequently, and has built-in fact-checking guidelines. --  k a i n a w &trade; 15:52, 28 August 2008 (UTC)


 * [[Image:Igel01.jpg|thumb|right|200px|1 down, to go!]] Hedgehogs! Great idea! I am starting Wikipedia:WikiProject Hedgehogs on every page. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:10, 28 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I believe the site will run up against WP:ELNO #12 "Links normally to be avoided ... Links to open wikis, except those with a substantial history of stability and a substantial number of editors.". That, combined with WP:NOT and WP:NOT will probably result in many who monitor for promotional content, spam, advertising, etc to view mmalinker.com as inappropriate for listing on Wikipedia at this time.  Later, if/when it grows, that may change. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 15:54, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Well thanks for the responses and input, we will not post anymore links to Fightwiki. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blacksheepdon (talk • contribs) 16:01, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually I know of one legitimate way to call attention to outside wikis, and that is in the context of "outplacing" articles that get deleted from Wikipedia. (The term "transwiki'ing" means approximately the same thing, except some people restrict that to mean moving articles to other Wikimedia Foundation wikis. I like the term "outplacing" because it implies no restrictions on where a person might copy Wikipedia's rejects.) See:
 * WP:WWMPD - for general information about outplacing.
 * WP:ALTOUT - lists some wikis the Wikipedia user community recommends. You could ask on the talk page about adding your wiki to the list. Don't just add it without discussing first, otherwise someone will probably remove it.
 * WP:AFD - when an article about mixed martial arts comes up for deletion, you could helpfully mention FightWiki as an alternative outlet. This can be quite helpful in a deletion discussion, because often the people who worked on an article may feel less "attacked" if they learn about another suitable wiki for their article. Then instead of watching their work go completely to waste, they can still have their article online somewhere.
 * WikiProject Martial Arts or a subproject may recommend alternative outlets for articles in its subject area which fail to meet Wikipedia's criteria.
 * The WP:EL guidelines apply to articles. On project pages there can be somewhat more leeway. --Teratornis (talk) 01:23, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

how many users
how many users are on wikipedia —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cyberdemon4 (talk • contribs) 15:35, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * There are over 7.5 million registered user accounts ... not sure how many are actually active. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 15:41, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * There are user accounts. I seem to recall from somewhere that about a third have never been used for editing.  Pyrospirit  ( talk  ·  contribs ) 15:43, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I bet you only about 1 million have actually been used for serious editing, 10+ edits. The rest are probably experimental or vandalism accounts. Ṝέđ ṃάяķvюĨїήīṣŢ  Drop me a lineReview Me! 16:03, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * IIRC, at least a half million of those are currently blocked at any given time. Most of those are throw-away vandalism accounts, however. Hers fold  (t/a/c) 16:39, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * A good number of people also maintain more than one account (either openly or secretly), and many people may switch accounts. So the number of "users" isn't necessarily the same as the number of people editing. Calliopejen1 (talk) 16:44, 28 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Is any breakdown available as to the numbers of accounts from various countries? Or continents? Wanderer57 (talk) 19:03, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

(unindent) Try Category:Wikipedians by location for a geographic breakdown. --Alinnisawest,Dalek Empress ( extermination requests here ) 19:06, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

page name
how to change the page nameThe Eighth Ring 17:34, 28 August 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Theeighthring (talk • contribs)


 * Use the "move" tab at the top of a page to change the name of an article. Be careful, though- moving/renaming a popular page should always be discussed on the article's discussion page, first. --Alinnisawest,Dalek Empress ( extermination requests here ) 17:36, 28 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I guess this is about your user page at User:Theeighthring. If you want a new user name then see Changing username. If you want to create a new Wikipedia article (which a user page is not) then a page might be created at The Eighth Ring (which I see you just did), but here is some general advice.


 * Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.


 * Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.


 * If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Your first article and How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:53, 28 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Since it sounds like a film, see also Notability (films) and WikiProject Films/Style guidelines. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:17, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Telecom Engineers
can i know how helpful is this for telecom engineers? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shridevisc (talk • contribs) 17:45, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over two million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the online free encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the left hand side of your screen. If that is not fruitful, we have a reference desk, divided into various subjects areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. TN ‑ X - Man  17:46, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Help, just upgraded to Firefox 3 and most of this site is unreadable!
Not sure what is going on but about 90% of the text on this site is now unreadable ever since I upgraded to Firefox 3 on my Mac yesterday. I'm only having problems with a few sites so far so its got to be the site and not my computer at this point. If you have to reconfigure stuff for Firefox 3 users please do so ASAP as I'm also having the same problem with Safari, thinking I could go there and see your site instead. Thanks!! I use wiki often so this is a BIG problem! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.205.205.3 (talk) 18:05, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Weird, I use Firefox 3 all the time (and I have used it on a Mac before), but see everything fine. There may be a problem either on your computer or with your internet settings. The fact that it happens in Safari too implies it's not the site's problem. --Alinnisawest,Dalek Empress ( extermination requests here ) 18:11, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * It is definitely a problem on your end - I’m making this edit with FF 3 on OSX - because WP works very well with Firefox 3. — Travis talk  18:16, 28 August 2008 (UTC)


 * A quick Google search turned up other reports of this type of problem (also appears to impact some pages of Slashdot and Craigslist - among others). I found this suggested solution: "disable the Helvetica Fractions font in Font Book".  Please post back and let us know if this works (assuming you can read this text that's suggesting how to resolve the problem). --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 18:30, 28 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Feedback would be much appreciated, as we have had a few similar compliants recently. --—— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk  -  23:11, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Contessa Entellina, Sicily
Would like information about Contessa Entellina and some of its names of famililes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.81.36.69 (talk) 18:54, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The article you're inquiring about can be found at Contessa Entellina. Cheers!  TN ‑ X - Man  18:58, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I fixed the strangely broken Infobox CityIT in the article. As Contessa Entellina is just a stub in the English Wikipedia, you may have to Google for more information:
 * or check the Italian Wikipedia at it:Contessa Entellina (but the Italian entry doesn't have much more information). One of the Google search results is this site which lists some families from that area. Did you try searching the Web before asking? --Teratornis (talk) 00:36, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * or check the Italian Wikipedia at it:Contessa Entellina (but the Italian entry doesn't have much more information). One of the Google search results is this site which lists some families from that area. Did you try searching the Web before asking? --Teratornis (talk) 00:36, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Book Cover Upload?
Hi, whoever reads this, I want to upload a scan I took of the cover of my copy of the book entitled "Indian Summer: The Secret History of the End of an Empire" for the article Indian Summer: The Secret History of the End of an Empire. But, for one where do you go to upload anything, and second, is it legal to upload book covers under "Wikipedia Law" (Lol—I find that funny). I think that the article really needs the cover of the book, and luckily I have the first edition copy of it. I've checked the archives and the different help pages, but there is nothing definite about uploading book covers, as well as other things. To be certain if I can, should I contact the publisher? because there is a phone number given in the book for copyright information. There is a bunch of stuff I don't understand about the copyright information and uploading photos, but I just really want to know if I can legally upload this scan. Thanks for reading. Helixer (talk) 23:35, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * There is a bunch of stuff nobody understands about copyright information. See WP:EIW and WP:EIW for everything that anybody on Wikipedia understands well enough to have attempted to explain to the rest of us. I would guess a book cover might fall under the Fair use criteria. --Teratornis (talk) 00:40, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I assume so, since we have a template book rationale specifically designed for this situation. Algebraist 00:44, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks. I guess I'll just upload it and hope for the best. How do you use that template? Or more generally, how do you use templates? But I guess that's not why this question is here. Thanks! Helixer  (talk) 03:34, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

To use a template, you generally insert the text into a page. For example, generates. There's more information at Help:Template and Help:Advanced templates, and more complication templates will normally have usage instructions on their page - for example, Template:Book rationale has some basic instructions. In this case, you would go to the page of the image you uploaded, edit the page and add that template, filling in the necessary parameters. Confusing Manifestation (Say hi!) 05:30, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I did exactly the same thing 9 months ago, with exactly the same worries. Having looked at some other book cover images and seen what had been done with them, I scanned the cover and uploaded the image as described above, using the template Non-free book cover when prompted to choose a licensing rationale template.  Seems have been accepted OK; maybe the image I uploaded will help you find the correct wording for your image?  Ka renjc 21:16, 29 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Okay, I'll do that, though now that I followed the link to the template, and then clicked on a link there to explain something then went to another linked, and I got a little confused... but I'll still try to use it. I hope to upload the cover by the 1st. I think this should be good for now. Helixer  (talk) 01:20, 30 August 2008 (UTC)