Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2008 February 8

= February 8 =

Peptide synthesis
I read this article with interest because I did my D.Phil. at Oxford on this subject. I am writing this because one of the biggest problems in peptide synthesis is racmization, and there was no mention of this subject in the article.

I am now retired and am not in a position to discuss the latest developments on this subject. So my intent is to let others respond to this. And later I could provide my own input.

Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.207.208.114 (talk) 00:26, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia needs all the subject matter experts it can get, so it is great to have you participating. The right page for discussing this would be Talk:Peptide_synthesis. &mdash;Noah 00:30, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

We have an article on racemization! Could you please edit the article on Peptide synthesis to link to that article? you are clearly qualified to do so. Thanks. -Arch dude (talk) 03:52, 8 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Actually, we do have an article on the chemical phenomena of Racemization. Wisdom89 (talk) 03:54, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Appears that you just realized the spelling error ; ). Wisdom89 (talk) 03:57, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

pages
how do i create a page —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nazimann88 (talk • contribs) 01:36, 8 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.


 * Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.


 * If you still think an article is appropriate, see Your first article and How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. Master of Puppets   Call me MoP! ☺  01:45, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Once you've done all that and are sure you want to create a page, see Help:Creating a page. --Coppertwig (talk) 02:44, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Type the page name you want and it might already exist. If not, a page with a link to create the page should appear. Just type normally, replacing line breaks with  and putting  and  around links. For a new section, put ==New section heading==, replacing 'New section heading' with the name of the section. That should suffice for now. Thanks, George D. Watson (Dendodge). (talk) 23:43, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Please set up STEVE ABBOTT (actor)
Dear STEVE ABBOTT,

Thank you for your mail.

Usually what we would do in this sort of situation is create a "disambiguation page".

Typically this would be done by moving the existing "Steve Abbott" page to "Steve Abbott (comedian)" listing your page as "Steve Abbott (actor)" and putting a link to both articles on the page "Steve Abbott".

The folks at the Help Desk can give you a hand with the technical aspects of how that is done.

Beth Dodge —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.51.178.149 (talk) 01:39, 8 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm guessing this message is connected with . Steve, you've already been warned that writing articles about yourself violates Wikipedia's policy on conflicts of interest. Unless and until someone else writes a valid, encyclopaedic article about you, showing why you are notable and using reliable sources to verify the statements made, the existing article at Steve Abbott will remain as it is.  Regards, BencherliteTalk 01:58, 8 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Which hasn't stopped him from trying to work mentions of himself into articles on his hometowns, schools, etc. One to keep an eye on. Pairadox (talk) 02:03, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Linking years?
Hi, quick question (I know it's probably answered somewhere in the WP:MOS, but I can't seem to find it at the moment - sorry!):

I know you're supposed to link dates like January 1, 2000, but are you also supposed to always link years that stand alone by themselves (e.g. "this event happened sometime in 1800" - and then later on, "in the summer of 1800, this other event happened")? Or for those cases does the rule that you just link them once and then not again in the article/section apply?

Thanks so much in advance, --Sam Chase 01:42, 8 February 2008 (UTC)


 * DATE is what you're after. In general, 1800 shouldn't be linked when it stands by itself whenever it appears; however, if there's a year-related article to link to (e.g. 1800 ), that would be good. BencherliteTalk 02:02, 8 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks so much! --Sam Chase 02:35, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

The Jake Mackey Band
I have a HOT Band that I have played music with for 10 years. How do I get into one of your festivals???????? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.107.68.229 (talk) 02:24, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * This is a forum for questions about how to use Wikipedia. --Coppertwig (talk) 02:43, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Check the Wikipedia Reference Desk on arts and media. Wisdom89 (talk) 03:49, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Liz Garbus
Hi,

I recently added/edited a page for wikipedia. Unfortunately, I didn't understand all the rules and so cut and pasted a filmography for my entry on Liz Garbus- a wikipedia violation. Now, when I google "liz garbus" and "wikipedia" my talk page comes up on the internet. Is there a way to make this talk page private/not visible to everyone on the internet? Of course, I understand my mistake, and am happy to revise the entry/take out the filmography. Please advise. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Serinm (talk • contribs) 02:43, 8 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately, I don't think there's any way to prevent this; Google's searchbots document every page that is public. Of course, you could try to contact Google about this issue, but I'm not sure how much they would cooperate. Cheers, Master of Puppets   Call me MoP! ☺  02:47, 8 February 2008 (UTC)


 * How about just deleting the the warnings from your talk page? This is allowed - see USER for more information. The older version of the page may remain in Google's caches, but it should prevent the issue from getting any worse. BencherliteTalk 02:50, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Question on third-party source material
Hi Wikipedia friends,

An article that I posted (and am still revising) - The Downtown Film Festival - Los Angeles -- was tagged in January 2008 as lacking a third-party source. I've just added an external link at the bottom of our article to an article in a popular blog (Angelenic.com) that appeared in November 2007. Does the blog article qualify as a third-party source?

Thanks very much, Kate —Preceding unsigned comment added by Silver lake (talk • contribs) 03:10, 8 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi, Kate, and thanks for editing. No, a Blog is not a reliable source. Our rules may seem strange, but they derive from the fact the "anyone can edit". Since anyone can edit, we cannot hold individual editors accountable for accuracy. therefore, we must require that all facts be referenced to sources that can be held accountable, or that at least are considered "verifiable" in by consensus. Blogs do not in general fall into this category. Yes, put the blog reference into th earticle, but try hard to find some "better" references. -Arch dude (talk) 03:43, 8 February 2008 (UTC)


 * A good example of a third party source would be Wikipedia itself - Encyclopedias and many text books are combinations of secondary and tertiary sources. Think of them as tiers away from the subject. Primary is the closest, secondary would be an objective analysis, and third party would be a summation of primary and secondary sources. Wisdom89 (talk) 03:47, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * As far as I'm aware, Third party in this context refers to independence of the source, though I can see how intuitive it is from a language standpoint to think it completes the series: primary-->secondary-->third. But what we want at best are independent (i.e. third party), secondary sources. Encyclopedias such as Wikipedia are tertiary sources.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:38, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Removing the Search button
Does anyone know of an offical option, or a user-made JavaScript script to put that I can put in my monobook.js file, that can remove the "Search" button below the search box on the toolbar to the left of every page? I often accidentally click that button instead of the search box to type something, and I have to wait for the blank search page to load afterwards (or cancel the page loading). Or, is there a script to make the "Go" button longer? --FlyingPenguins (talk) 03:28, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * In the event no one can confirm it exists (I looked unsuccessfully), I think your best option is to make a request at WikiProject User scripts/Requests.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:23, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Wikibreak Enforcer
Can someone help me configure the Wikibreak Enforcer to prevent me from editing until the end of Lent. Thanks.  Marlith  (Talk)   04:17, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't know when is the end of Lent, but I'll try to help you.

Example how the lines should look: This would end the wikibreak on 2008th year, 3rd month (March), 23rd day, on midnight. I hope I didn't make the wikibreak script too confusing :) -- grawity talk / PGP 19:23, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) Open Wikibreak Enforcer
 * 2) Open your monobook.js, and click Edit this page
 * 3) Copy Wikibreak Enforcer to your monobook.js
 * 4) Change this line to your wanted date and time (day when the wikibreak should end):
 * 1) Click Save
 * 2) Hold Ctrl, and press F5 on your keyboard.
 * P.S. If you use style other than MonoBook, edit the matching .js:
 * For example, if you use Modern style, you'll want to edit modern.js
 * -- grawity talk / PGP 19:48, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Theodore Acland Harper
I want to add this article:



I took the text off a website, there's also a much shorter brittanica article about him. I really don't have the time to do this properly. Also I'm the reincarnated soul of Mr. Harper, so there's probably a conflict of interest if I write the article. thx —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.25.137.95 (talk) 04:24, 8 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Because you copied the text off a website, it is a copyright violation, and not permissible under Wikipedia policy. In addition, I have a slight doubt that you are the reincarnated soul of Mr. Harper, but kudos for recognizing the conflict of interest there.  -- FastLizard4  (Talk•Index•Sign) 04:28, 8 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Nevertheless, the fact that the removed text was a copyright violation does not void the potential future creation of said article - as long as it can conform to Wikipedia core guidelines and five pillars. Wisdom89 (talk) 05:45, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

San Diego Highwayman
Why was the San Diego Highwayman page deleted? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.212.194.34 (talk) 04:45, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * The deletion log says "(CSD A7 (Bio): Biographical article that does not assert significance)".  I would likely not have deleted this myself, but it is borderline.  The references in the deleted article are rather weak, but it seems that there are a lot more than could be added. Bovlb (talk) 05:07, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I believe I removed a prod or speedy or something - it looked notable enough at least to go through AFD, though pretty badly formatted. I'm not sure I would vote to keep, but there was definitely an assertion of importance. --NE2 06:02, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * If you wish to have the page undeleted, the correct forum for your request is Deletion Review. If you want to create a new article that does not suffer the flaws of the old one, you may simply go ahead and do so.  You may wish to start in a user sub-page so that you're not disturbed as you prepare the article, and please read Notability (people) thoroughly. Bovlb (talk) 06:39, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Infoboxes
I am having an extremely difficult time making an info box for the article Banya: The Explosive Delivery Man. Every time I make one it claims its a template of an infobox and I can't seem to make it. Can you tell me what I am doing wrong or at least give me the code to make an actual Infobox? Thanks for you time User:SlaveofBetrayal SlaveofBetrayal. —Preceding comment was added at 06:14, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Read the instructions at Template:Infobox animanga carefully. These infobox templates are designed to be used between a header and footer template (for reasons that are unclear to me). Bovlb (talk) 06:33, 8 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I have restored your infobox with an empty header. Maybe you can put something in the header. See Template:Infobox animanga. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:03, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi all, I am having a pretty difficult time making latest_preview_release version as well as latest_stable_version work in the infobox. Something is missing, I used :-


 * frequently_updated        = yes

One can find both of them at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Latest_stable_release/Abiword as well as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Latest_preview_release/Abiword. Lemme know what the issue is, I would have liked to do the age as well :( &#91;&#91;User:Shirishag75&#124;Shirishag75&#93;&#93; (talk) 06:27, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

how to report a typo
on the third line of the third paragraph of "early life" under Alexander the Great, starting with the fifth word, it says "to us to us" and i can't figure out how to edit it myself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mmrotiroti (talk • contribs)
 * Just click the "edit this page" tab right at the top. Good luck! GlassCobra 06:51, 8 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Alexander the Great is semi-protected so it can only be edited by accounts which are at least 4 days old. You can report problems and suggest changes on the talk page by clicking the "discussion" tab, but I have made this correction. Thanks. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:50, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Querry About Hindi Font
Which font is used by Wikipedia Hindi, if i try to copy the Hindi text, nothing but the boxes appear, how can I rectify it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.99.80.55 (talk) 07:21, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * This page should help: Enabling_complex_text_support_for_Indic_scripts. &mdash;Noah 07:25, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Salary of president of India before 1996
Hi, —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.162.228.10 (talk) 08:01, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Have you tried the Humanities section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:36, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

holocaust
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 * Do you have a question about Holocaust? PrimeHunter (talk) 12:34, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

St George's House Northern Police Orphanage
I would like to add some photographic content to this article but do not know how to do it. Can you explain the procedure to me please ? Peter Taylor —Preceding unsigned comment added by Peterver (talk • contribs) 10:08, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * See Images and Help:Images and other uploaded files. Come back if you have a problem. Please satisfy Image use policy. Many images are deleted because of license problems. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:33, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

How do I go about deleting a page/article?
How do I go about deleting a page/article?

I.e. what is the process/recipe?

Does the Talk page need to be explicitly deleted as well?

(Useful for removing links, in this case)
 * How do I find which pages/articles etc. have links to another page/article?

Specifically Melbourne tram route 27 - this route does not exist (ref: http://www.metlinkmelbourne.com.au/timetables/metropolitan_trams - "Metropolitan trams Route Selection" drop down list)

So the whole page is obsolete.

Thanks. BlueOrb (talk) 10:32, 8 February 2008 (UTC)


 * See Deletion policy. Only administrators can delete pages. The talk page will usually also be deleted. You don't have to suggest that. Click on "What links here" in the toolbox to the left, but don't delete links while the page is still there. I guess there has been such a route at some time and some pages are kept after their subject has disappeared. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:26, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the info/link, neat! But I don't understand why links to the page to be deleted (once users, etc. are in agreement that it be deleted) can't then be deleted...after all how would you find the links to the page using the What links here toolbox once its gone? Do the (ordinary) editors delete the links, or the "Administrators"? It seems logical to me that the links be tidied up/removed before the deletion, it's about doing the steps in the right order and synchronizing actions. I've had a look at the Deletion policy stuff, but can't find any info about this.

Thanks again. BlueOrb (talk) 13:21, 8 February 2008 (UTC)


 * You can delete links after it has been decided to delete a page, but you will usually have no time between the decision (which only an administrator can make) and the deletion (performed by the deciding administrator). Deleting a page (or if the page has never existed) makes no difference to What links here. Special:Whatlinkshere works and if you click a redlink for a non-existing page then a working "What links here" is still in the toolbox, for example at The weather in London (which has an unusual number of deletions). PrimeHunter (talk) 16:12, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Help desk page "Click here to ask your question about using Wikipedia" link
How about making the "Click here to ask your question about using Wikipedia" box/text more prominent, e.g. increase the font size, change the text/box colour to something more visually prominent? It should stick out like ...

Fow newbies, I think it should be much more visible.

Regards. BlueOrb (talk) 10:35, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Hiya. I'd suggest you discuss this on the talk page rathern than here. It's a good idea though :) Pedro : Chat  10:38, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestion, have done... Regards. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BlueOrb (talk • contribs) 11:06, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

help me
to register —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.230.120.186 (talk) 11:01, 8 February 2008 (UTC)


 * In the top right hand corner of your screen, you should see an icon that says "sign in/create account." Click on thhat and you will see a box. Click on "Create one." Type your username and password and you should be ready to go. Happy editing! STORMTRACKER    94  Go Sox! 11:32, 8 February 2008 (UTC)


 * If you are unable to create an account at then ask at Request an account. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:18, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Shattuck Oklahoma Chamber Website
Should be www.shattuckchamber.org —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.250.216.37 (talk) 11:14, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I guess you refer to this correction. Thanks. Another time you are welcome to fix it yourself. Just click "edit" to the right of a section or "edit this page" at top, and start editing. If you report a problem here or elsewhere then please give the exact name of the page. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:10, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Uploading a pdf file
I created a map using US Census Bureau mapping software. It downloaded onto my computer as a pdf file. I went to upload a US Government file onto Wiki and I thought it said I could upload my pdf file. But now I have a file called

Image:Map.pdf

and it is simply an unclickable pdf file icon, best I can tell. It seems to be approximately the right file size. Besides titling the file badly, what else did I do wrong and what should I do now? I see no option to delete the image. --Pat (talk) 11:15, 8 February 2008 (UTC)


 * The actual file itself is still accessible by clicking on the filename on the image description page which leads you to http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5e/Map.pdf (its location on the servers). Firstly, try saving the document in Acrobat as an image, to do this - goto save as and select JPEG or PNG as in this how to guide. If this is not possible then what I would suggest doing is right-clicking on the images in acrobat and seeing if you are able to save them individually, then recombine them in an image editing program and upload the result. Then use the template db-author to request deletion of the old image. 86.21.74.40 (talk) 13:14, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Userbox.
With this userbox i've currently got myself as level 2 when will i be classed as  is there a page which explains it. Ter ra Terra's talkpage 11:35, 8 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Numbered userboxes like those at Userboxes/Wikipedia are self-assigned with no rules. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:04, 8 February 2008 (UTC)


 * So if i wanted to i could raise the userbox to since there is no restriction.  Ter ra Terra's talkpage 12:06, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * No. I could classify myself as a native Spanish, Italian, French, Pig Latin and 1337 speaker without rebuke, although it could be awkward if a Spanish Wikipedia user tries to find someone for help on the English Wikipedia, and picks me.  You're only as good as you think you are, so if you feel you are ready, by all means, change it.  x42bn6 Talk Mess  12:40, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Userboxes are used to discribe yourself. So you should choose the one which best describe you. Visit me at Ftbhrygvn(T alk |C ontribs |L og ) 14:24, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia images
For a week now I can receive ONLY wikipedia text, but no images. Why is this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.125.151.198 (talk) 12:51, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't know. Maybe it's a setting on your browser. --Coppertwig (talk) 13:45, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Is Wikipedia the only site with missing images? Which browser do you have? Can you try another? Were there any changes regarding browser, computer or Internet connection around the time images disappeared? PrimeHunter (talk) 15:59, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Variations on this question come up from time to time, but everybody phrases it differently, making it hard to look up previous answers. But we can try:
 * This question comes up a lot, but unfortunately most of our answers are not very good, probably because the problem is almost certainly in a user's Web browser, and the Help desk volunteers cannot get any information about other users' browsers. Here is an old question with an answer that tells how to manually turn off image loading in several browsers; you may have accidentally set your browser to stop displaying images, or a computer glitch or an ad-blocker etc. might have done this:
 * Help desk/Archive 12
 * Check the settings in your browser, ad-blocker, etc. to see if they are blocking images from Wikipedia. Also try browsing to another language Wikipedia (see: List of Wikipedias) and see if images are visible there. If you can see images in another language Wikipedia, that would suggest your browser's security settings are telling it to block images specifically from this site. --Teratornis (talk) 16:18, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * This question comes up a lot, but unfortunately most of our answers are not very good, probably because the problem is almost certainly in a user's Web browser, and the Help desk volunteers cannot get any information about other users' browsers. Here is an old question with an answer that tells how to manually turn off image loading in several browsers; you may have accidentally set your browser to stop displaying images, or a computer glitch or an ad-blocker etc. might have done this:
 * Help desk/Archive 12
 * Check the settings in your browser, ad-blocker, etc. to see if they are blocking images from Wikipedia. Also try browsing to another language Wikipedia (see: List of Wikipedias) and see if images are visible there. If you can see images in another language Wikipedia, that would suggest your browser's security settings are telling it to block images specifically from this site. --Teratornis (talk) 16:18, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Check the settings in your browser, ad-blocker, etc. to see if they are blocking images from Wikipedia. Also try browsing to another language Wikipedia (see: List of Wikipedias) and see if images are visible there. If you can see images in another language Wikipedia, that would suggest your browser's security settings are telling it to block images specifically from this site. --Teratornis (talk) 16:18, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

password does not work anymore
I have set the same username for Wikipedia Dutch, English and German. Yesterday I logged in on the english site and added comment with my usual password. Today I cannot login on this site Today I could not log in into the Dutch page with my usual password. I asked for new password, did not work. What to do?

125.26.239.243 (talk) 13:19, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Try to remember your password very carefully. Maybe you forgot to put in something that was in your password.
 * Go to your userpage and look at "User contributions". If someone has stolen your account, maybe they're editing under your account.
 * In future, when you have an account that works, use Template:User committed identity so that later you can prove who you are. Also make sure you put your email address into your account.
 * Someone had a password problem a few days ago. They were told that they could get help from a wikimedia server administrator.  I'm sorry I can't remember where their post is, or how they found a wikimedia server administrator;  but they did find a wikimedia administrator;  I don't know whether the person was able to help them. --Coppertwig (talk) 13:45, 8 February 2008 (UTC)


 * See Help:Logging in. There can be different passwords in different Wikipedia languages. What happens when you try to log in and what is the username? Privacy policy mentions the part about contacting a Wikimedia server administrator but I don't know anything about how or whether that works. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:51, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I found the other user I was thinking of. See User talk:Freelion and User talk:Brion VIBBER.  Freelion managed to remember his/her password, but you could try making a request as Freelion did and see what happens. Good luck.
 * By the way, if you want you can just register a new username and stop using the other account. --Coppertwig (talk) 12:41, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

how to download photos into Wikipedia submission
I would like to add a photograph into the submission I recently made to Wikipeadia - I can't find this info anywhere. Please advise how I do this.

Phillind (talk) 14:59, 8 February 2008 (UTC)


 * See Help:Images and other uploaded files and Image use policy. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:43, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

another work by Benny Bufano
I would like add the other work that he did that was in Moors cafeteria for many years Moors cfeteria was near the corner of Market.st and Powell 208.57.162.8 (talk) 16:47, 8 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Do you have a question about Benny Bufano? You don't have to get permission to edit an article. But reading a little like would be good, for example Simplified ruleset. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:12, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Non tredditional Machining
i am not getting this topic in wikipedia about Non Treaditional Machining please provide this for me sir121.245.0.2 (talk) 17:26, 8 February 2008 (UTC)


 * We have machining which covers various techniques, but I see nothing about traditional or non-traditional machining. What specifically are you looking for? Friday (talk) 17:29, 8 February 2008 (UTC)


 * See Requested articles if you want to request a Wikipedia article. If you want information about non traditional machining then try a Google search . Have you tried the science section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:35, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Printing with links?
Is there a way to print an article (and if possible a talk page too) so that the paper version shows the hyperlinked words as blue? I can't seem to find a way. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.240.57.93 (talk) 18:26, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * You'd have to change the stylesheet somehow. Logged-in users can set their own stylesheets, but that takes quite a bit of knowledge of CSS. It might be possible for you to change the stylesheet on your browser instead, but that depends on your browser and I don't know how to do it anyway. So, possible, but not at all easy. --ais523 18:30, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Edit counter tool
On February 2nd I started a section regarding a problematic Edit_counter_tool. The tool at http://vs.aka-online.de/wppagehiststat/ continues not to count my edits at Wicked (musical). This seems to be the only article where my edits are not counted. I had at least 18 edits to this page and should appear on the list of editors by this tool and do not. What is going on? —Preceding unsigned comment added by TonyTheTiger (talk • contribs) 19:12, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * That's the least of this tools problems. It also believes the article has only 1128 edits, the first being in April '07, when in fact it's been around since '05. Algebraist 19:37, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I have never noticed a problem with other articles. What is the story with that one?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 21:31, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

where can the nano be bought in the us what dealer ship
where can the nano be bought in the us what dealer ship —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.10.96.70 (talk • contribs)


 * I'm assuming you are asking about where to buy the Apple iPod Nano. You don't say where in the USA you are.  If you are in a major city, there might be an Apple Store downtown.  If not, I would imagine you could try a local store that stocks TV and audio equipment, or somewhere that stocks CDs, or buy online from one of many internet retailers.  In future  it is probably better to take this type of question to the reference desk, since this help desk is for asking question about using Wikipedia.  Astronaut (talk) 20:41, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Perhaps the Tata Nano? X ENON 54 | talk 20:48, 8 February 2008 (UTC)


 * You might want to ask at the Reference Desk, this is a Help Desk for help with Wikipedia. Ter ra Terra's talkpage 19:50, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Closing an AFD
Hi, I wanted to know that can I close an AfD discussion if I was the nominator for deletion? And If I can, then how can I do that. Whats the procedure.  U z E E  20:21, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Only if you withdraw the nomination, then you can close as keep. You cannot close normally since you nominated the article. Non-admins can't close AfD's as delete anyway. See WP:DPR for more. X ENON 54 | talk 20:47, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * You can only close as keep if there are no delete comments so far. See Deletion process for the process. If there are delete comments then you can strike your nomination with ... and say you withdraw, but the AfD continues. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:16, 8 February 2008 (UTC)


 * So if I want to withdraw the AfD, i just have to strikeout the nom and and say I withdraw? and if there is a speedy keep/strong keep and no deletion then I just close the AfD myself? I can do the Non-Admin close can I? btw I had read the Deletion Process before asking but I still was in doubt so asked here. Thanks for the response.  U z E E  23:36, 8 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes to all questions. If you are unsure about the closing procedure then just withdraw and somebody else will probably speedy close. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:55, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

defination of data structure
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 * {?-- VectorPotentialTalk 21:02, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Page view counter
Why doesn't this wiki page views counter work on either my laptop connected via wifi at the Chicago Public Library or on the Interenet stations at the Chicago public Library. It works at home on my dial-up connection.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 21:29, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * This is not the right page to discuss this, but here is the standard troubleshooting:
 * Are you using the same browser on the same OS in each case? (Does it work if you use Firefox instead of IE?)
 * What are the security settings of your browser in each location (remember that IE will change its setting dynamically)?
 * Are you able to view the source of the page? That is, can you retrieve the page but not render the HTML?
 * Is this the only page that doesn't work at the library? Have you tried many other pages?
 * &mdash;Noah 23:44, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Making a page help
I am trying to make a Wikipedia page, but I do not know how to make a page. I know the cheatsheet and such, but how to start the page itself I do not know. Could you tell me?

Highhorror (talk) 21:30, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * See Help:Starting a new page   Stwalkerster  [  talk  ]  21:36, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.


 * Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.


 * If you still think an article is appropriate, see Your first article and How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. Nan oha A's Yu ri     Talk, My master 23:30, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Changing an Image
How do I update an image, even though I did not originally upload it? The file on Wikipedia is called "USB_flash_drive.jpg". All I've done is make the background transparent instead of white —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dippy 247 (talk • contribs) 21:34, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * There is a link on the image pages, called "Upload a new version of this file". Click there, and you're set. The reason for this link is because images do not belong to one person, and anyone can update them (WP:OWN). Good luck!  Soxred93 | talk count bot 21:59, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Automatic archive
How do I set up an article talk page so it will be automatically archived? --Gerry Ashton (talk) 22:12, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * There are a couple bots that can do this. Here is one of them: User:MiszaBot/Archive_HowTo. &mdash;Noah 23:37, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Question about edit counts
Is there a way to find out how many of a given user's edits have been reverted? There's a user who's been inserting false info into lots of articles for months; I've analyzed the pattern of this specific vandalism, and it looks like one of his addresses is a static IP. Though that IP has been progressively blocked over the last 2 days, I'd like to create a case that the IP should be permablocked; obviously, the more bad edits, the more likely it is that it's a mostly-vandal or vandal-only account. (His dynamic IP, at his "other" location, is a little more troublesome; I'm compiling data to see if I can pin down a range, but so far, no luck.) Thanks for any help you can give me...Gladys J Cortez 22:45, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I would suggest you bring that up on the Administrators noticeboard. And... thanks for helping track down the vandalism. &mdash;Noah 23:32, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, and you're welcome--I just don't want to seem stalker-y. :) 128.135.107.64 (talk) 00:27, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Swedish language template
Hello

I have a need to identify a reference as being in the Swedish language. I tried,  , and 🇸🇪. I've used similar templates b4. There was for Italian, for example.

Can you point me to a location where the different language templates are? E_dog95'  Hi ' 22:47, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi E_dog95. See Category:Language icons. The one you are looking for is sv icon. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:53, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Awesome. Thanks a ton :D E_dog95'   Hi ' 22:57, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * You're welcome.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:52, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

starting my own page
I am an author and want to have a page telling who I am on Wikipedia. How do I set this up? I have gone through the tutorial and cannot find out how to do this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Conniegreenhouse (talk • contribs) 23:01, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * With all due respect, you may wish to consult Wikipedia's standards for notability for biographical articles (general notability requirements). To create a new page, just go to the title (e.g. Connie Greenhouse) and create a page. Your changes are live from the instant you click 'save page'. Angus Lepper(T, C, D) 23:28, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * You can do that on your user page, which is located here Nan oha A's Yu ri     Talk, My master 23:31, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

How do I go about creating a Disambiguation Page?
I entered the term "licence plate" into the Search box, and the page that appeared was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Licence_plate with the title "Vehicle registration plate". Now, in addition to referring to a vehicle registration plate, the term "licence plate" is also an official term in the civil aviation industry. Therefore I believe what is needed is a Disambiguation Page with a link to the above-mentioned URL and also a link to the page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bag_tag which explains what a licence plate is in the context of the civil aviation industry. I would be happy to create a Disambiguation Page for this if I knew how. Can you kindly tell me how to go about doing this? Thanks in advance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.151.60.193 (talk) 23:21, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * In this case, where there is one significantly dominant usage, and another much more minor usage, you're probably more likely to be looking to use the otheruses template. However, you may be interested in WP:D. Angus Lepper(T, C, D) 23:25, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

'(ec)'
What does the '(ec)' I've seen in discussions a couple times recently mean? I can't quite fathom it. Angus Lepper(T, C, D) 23:22, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * "Edit conflict." It happens on busy pages like these where multiple people are trying to edit at the same time. &mdash;Noah 23:24, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, that makes sense. I understand that it happens, having encountered it often enough, but I hadn't come across the abbreviation until very recently. Thanks! Angus Lepper(T, C, D) 23:29, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I'd been wondering that too!! --Coppertwig (talk) 13:05, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Searching for references to an ISBN
I looked around for a way of doing this but didn't have any joy. I have a book and want to see if it's been cited on any wikipedia pages. Is this possible? If not, is there somewhere I could suggest it as a feature? Thanks! --jwandersTalk 23:52, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Take this URL -- http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=site%3Aen.wikipedia.org+0471364002&btnG=Google+Search -- and replace the ISBN number with your own. That should do it. &mdash;Noah 01:28, 9 February 2008 (UTC)