Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2008 January 19

= January 19 =

Proper procedure if your employer is a notable entity?
I believe that my employer is notable under WP:CORP, for reasons I've outlined on my user page.

What is the correct procedure for causing an article to be created? I see that I shouldn't write it myself, per WP:AB; I also see that I shouldn't submit it to WP:AFC. I am concerned that WP:RA has accumulated a massive backlog and has little activity. Would it be inappropriate to ask a disinterested acquaintance to write it? To look for Wikipedians interested in the science of aging and ask some of them if they'd be interested in writing it? Failing everything else, to write it as neutrally as possible and submit it to some kind of peer review?

I appreciate it! --SierraSciSPA (talk) 01:23, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Go ahead and write it yourself, but in userspace as a subpage of your user page. Then come back and ask us (or others, if you can find someone) fora review. Once one or more disinterested reviewers have commented on the article, ask a reviewer to move it to main space. WP:COI is not a strict prohibition, but it is written very strongly to make sure that an interested party must try a lot harder to maintain NPOV. And good luck! -Arch dude (talk) 03:32, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Columns
How do you get three columns across the page ?

Thanks,

Tovojolo (talk) 02:00, 19 January 2008 (UTC)


 * See Help:List for how to do it with a table. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:58, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

How can I get a deleted page re-created?
I created a page for wikipedia in 2006 for the term caricology. The page needed a reference and was deleted by wikipedia. Nevertheless, the term is cited under the entry in wikipedia for the word Carex. I have just now added the references to the Carex entry. I believe wikipedia may now want to re-add my info on the term caricology, since you now have references supporting the term. Sedgehead (talk) 03:08, 19 January 2008 (UTC)Philip E. Hyatt
 * Either you can recreate the article or go to deletion review to get the previous edition undeleted. I would just recreate the article given your circumstances. See Citing sources for information on adding references. N F 24 (radio me!) 03:10, 19 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Caricology was not deleted. It was redirected to Carex after this version. Wikipedia is not a dictionary so a redirect was appropriate for that version. Carex is a short article and I see no reason to have a separate article for a term meaning the study of Carex. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:50, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Dinghies_on_Kinghorn_Loch.JPG#file
1. As a first time user playing in the sandbox I inadvertently managed to upload the above image and now can't remove it. Can you do so because I did not intend to make this copyright free.

2. How do I add a new page with a photo and hyperlinks embedded in it? I wanted to upload the following new content with the imagehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:K14_Loch_from_hide.JPG embedded in it:

Kinghorn Community Land Association

KCLA is a Community Body recognised by the Scottish Government to bring land into community ownership using the Land Reform (Scotland) Act 2003. It has over 100 local members and has successfully obtained Ministerial approval to register the Kinghorn community's interests in 19 plots of land at and around Kinghorn Loch, in Fife, Scotland. This Right to Buy aims to secure community control over land in the long term and access to Lottery funds for improvements.

Kinghorn Loch was first gifted to the Town in 1605 by King James VI of Scotland (James I of England). Although sold off in the the 19th Century, it remains a highly attractive and well used focus of natural heritage, leisure educational and environmental activity benefiting not just the local community but people from further afield. An important feature and highly regarded attraction is the Ecology Centre, renowned for its environmental education and social inclusion work. It also hosts the first UK Earthship building.

Faced with some uncertainty over the future of the Loch area and its facilities, KCLA has sought Registrations of Community Interest to give the Town the opportunity through first refusal to exercise a Right to Buy as and when a willing landowner chooses to sell. These registrations have twice been supported with petitions signed by some 25% of the local electorate.

Right to Buy purchases will only go ahead with the support of local people in a ballot. Scottish Ministers will appoint an independent valuer to decide a fair price for the landowner and the local community.

link to

ENDS

Thanks

Cemitchell (talk) 04:01, 19 January 2008 (UTC)cme


 * Responded on user talk. -- omtay 38  04:07, 19 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I have deleted Image:Dinghies on Kinghorn Loch.JPG. PrimeHunter (talk) 04:09, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Multiple images
I've just uploaded a picture on the commons. But, an image with the exact name already exists in Wikipedia (I probably should have checked this). I tried, but that just created a link to the page, not rendering an image. What should I do? Thanks --Weatherman1126 (talk ) 04:35, 19 January 2008 (UTC)


 * See Help:Images and other uploaded files. You can request deletion of the commons image and upload it with a new name. PrimeHunter (talk) 04:50, 19 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks! --Weatherman1126 (talk ) 05:05, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

How do I make a wikipedia page?
How do I make a wikipedia page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Polishking94 (talk • contribs) 06:30, 19 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
 * Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.


 * Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.


 * If you still think an article is appropriate, see Your first article and How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. PrimeHunter (talk) 06:38, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

MAp
how to locate or find our city through wikipedia —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.96.144.82 (talk) 06:51, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * What is your city? Did you try searching for its name using the box on the left?  Wikipedia is not an atlas, and while we do have maps, they tend to be few and simple.  You might like to try Google Maps. Bovlb (talk) 07:01, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * If you are physically in your city, you can locate it by stepping outside and looking around. If you want to locate an article about your city in Wikipedia, you can try searching for it. If you want to know your geographic coordinates, see: Obtaining geographic coordinates. Wikipedia has articles about many cities, but if your city is small, we might not have an article about it yet. The coverage in the English Wikipedia is probably better in the English-speaking countries, e.g., we have articles about many small towns in the United States, but in a nation like Myanmar we might only cover the major cities. If your city has a common name, you might have to sort through several articles to find it. For example, we have articles on Athens, Greece; Athens, Ohio; Athens, Georgia; and others on Athens (disambiguation). If you had told us the name of your city, we could have given you an exact answer. --Teratornis (talk) 19:05, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * This user appears to be in India, possibly in the vicinity of Ahmedabad. Bovlb (talk) 01:50, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Memorial Hospital, Houston, TX
I was born in Downtown Memorial Hospital, Houston, TX, in Nov. 1937. It was later torn down to make way for progress. How can I find the history of that hospital: i.e.; when was it built and when was it torn down?

Jack Cooper …69.151.245.145 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 16:28, 19 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia does not appear to have an article about the subject you are looking for. Try posting your question (with perhaps a little more detail about the location and/or relevant dates) over at the Reference desk. Happy editing! -- omtay 38  16:36, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * This link seems to indicate it was moved in 1971 and torn down in 1977. &mdash;Noah 19:16, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Adenomyosis
An additional symptom of this condition is constant severe back pain. The back pain is due to the swollen uterus pressing up against other internal organs that then press against the lower spine. This condition is also much more common in women of Black African ancestry than Causcasian and Asian women due to the keloiding process in the formation of scar tissue in women of Black African descent. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.188.23.59 (talk) 18:12, 19 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Hello there! Is there something particular we can help you with? Are you maybe looking for the article on Adenomyosis? -- omtay 38  18:19, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * If you have suggestions for the article on Adenomyosis, and you have not yet learned enough about editing on Wikipedia to edit the article yourself, a somewhat easier method is to suggest your changes on the talk page for the article, in this case: Talk:Adenomyosis. Please read Help:Talk page first, so you understand how to use our talk pages. If you have never edited on a wiki before, there is much here you probably won't find intuitive, so Reading The Friendly Manuals is necessary. --Teratornis (talk) 18:55, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercheats
Hello,

You have information regarding my site http://www.supercheats.com here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercheats

It forwards directly to UGO.com's wiki page.

It is not owned by UGO we are merely advertising partners, please immediately cease this forwarding, if a page for supercheats.com is not valid in your directly as a page on it's own then please kindly remove it from your database completely, you should not be forwarding our site to a reference for UGO.com there is no ownership relationship we are ad partners like we are with many other companies.

If you would like to check my ownership credentials please visit netsol.com and do a whois look up and email that address (it changes frequently to prevent spam), it will forward to my real account. Alternatively use http://www.supercheats.com/contacts.php

Yours faithfully,

Richard Gardner Webmaster http://www.supercheats.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by Webmednet (talk • contribs) 18:16, 19 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Hello there! Per your request the article has been proposed for deletion (see here). If nobody objects to the deletion, the article will be removed in five (5) days. Hope this helps! -- omtay 38  18:27, 19 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Given that it was only created last week, apparently to stop another article being created about it (see [ history]) after vandalism of the previous article (which I'm not convinced is a good reason to have a redirect), another administrator might also choose to delete it immediately and simply protect the title. But then I am not an admin. • Anakin (contribs • complaints) 18:39, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I've gone ahead and deleted the redirect, I don't think protecting from recreation is necessary yet. Mr.  Z- man  18:49, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi Richard, I suggested creating the UGO redirect at the Supercheats deletion discussion. I'm sorry for misinterpreting the business relationship between the two websites. ˉˉanetode╦╩ 13:39, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

referencing
how would I reference the material I used from this site at the end of a case study? In APA format
 * The Citing Wikipedia help page covers APA format. &mdash;Noah 19:25, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

what is grungy?
what is grungy? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.83.215.180 (talk) 19:16, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * An adjective form of the noun grunge.&mdash;Noah 19:19, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

"citation needed" Greek Railways Organismós Sidirodrómon Elládos Network and stations
" When the line was fully open the journey took about 5 hours.[citation needed]"

It would be difficult to verify this today as the timetables have been long lost! They were chalked up on a blackboard on Volos station and I made the journey from Volos to Meteora/Kalambaka in both directions in 1990 when the line was still open. If anyone else has made this journey they would be able to verify it - or it might be possible to obtain the old timetable from OSE. Comment added by Harfo32 (talk • contribs) 19:33, 19 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Verifiability says: "The burden of evidence lies with the editor who adds or restores material. All quotations and any material challenged or likely to be challenged should be attributed to a reliable, published source using an inline citation."
 * Adding [citation needed] with fact or similar is a challenge. If you added the statement about 5 hours but don't have a published reliable source and don't think you can find one then I suggest to remove the time. By the way, Organismós Sidirodrómon Elládos has two almost identical sections called "Network and Stations". I guess it was first copied and then modified a little. You know the article well so will you fix it? PrimeHunter (talk) 23:27, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

The "Network and Stations" duplicate has been fixed. --Harfo32 (talk) 15:43, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

I will see if I can track down a reliable source of Greek Railway Timetables dating back to 1990, If not, I will remove the time! --Harfo32 (talk) 15:46, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Related question: Someone has also added 'citation needed' tag to "Key people" in the "Organismos Sidirodromon Ellados (O.S.E.)" infobox of this article. First, the information is on the OSE webpage http://www.ose.gr/ecportal.asp?id=656&nt=18&lang=2 (even if Prof. N. K. Baltas is there listed as 'President'). Second, how in the first place references should be added to an infobox!??? At least putting lots of inline citations there makes it very cluttered! --Sivullinen (talk) 15:40, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
 * There's nothing wrong with inline citations in an infobox. The footnote link is very small, so only the edit page becomes cluttered, and that's not much of a problem. Algebraist 10:55, 23 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks! Yet an additional question: Is it possible to put a pfd-link (e.g. (3.23 MiB)) inside a footnote or reference? How, just replacing the ordinary link with the lengthy pdf-template? --Sivullinen (talk) 14:29, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Need a hand with IPA
The article Brisingr could use a pronunciation key, but I just can't seem to wrap my mind around IPA well enough to do one and be confident that its correct. As explained on the article's talk page, an official press release gives "BRIS-ing-gr". If anybody could convert that into IPA, I'd be much obliged.--Fyre2387 (talk • contribs) 19:38, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Have you used the audio clips on the Help:IPA page? The audio clips are indicated by little speaker icons (i) Speakerlink-new.svg like this . &mdash;Noah 19:45, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * By the way, my best guess is that it would be although that is my first attempt at using IPA. &mdash;Noah 20:15, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Are u sure about the "ʒ" part? I would guess . Although im also new to this. kawaputra torque 03:52, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Userpage
Question, on my userpage where it has the purge server cache and edit counter, what dose the purge server cache erase.  →Dust  Rider →  20:45, 19 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Nevermind.  →Dust  Rider →  20:52, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

how do i do an artical
how do i do an artical —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.155.83.186 (talk) 20:45, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * You will need to first register an account, which has many benefits, including the ability to create articles. Once you have registered, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
 * You will need to first register an account, which has many benefits, including the ability to create articles. Once you have registered, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.


 * Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.


 * If you still think an article is appropriate, see Your first article and How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. N F 24 (radio me!) 20:47, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Waiting
How long does it take for Special:Whatlinkshere to catch up once you correct a link in a template? Simply south (talk) 21:53, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I guess you mean: Article A C transcludes template B which is corrected to link to article C A. When will Whatlinkshere for A include C? I don't know when/if it will happen by itself, but it should happen if C is edited. You can force it without a registered edit by making a null edit on C (purging C doesn't help). PrimeHunter (talk) 22:33, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll try, thanks. Btw, it is Northumberland Park, London. Simply south (talk) 22:42, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I swapped A and C in the example. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:50, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Erm, i'm not quite sure that is what is meant. Template:LB Haringey originally had Northumberland Park as a link which is a disambiguation page. I corrected the link on the template after (finall) creating the article on the area. I suppose this means only a null edit on the disambig page needs to happen in order to force the links to finally go to the suburb\district\area. Simply south (talk) 23:01, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * It was your question so you should best know what it meant. If my guess was wrong then can you please clarify what you want with the actual page names? "the links" is a bit vague. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:18, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

I think you were right but it seems the links are getting closer. I think i will just wait instead. Thanks for the help and suggestion. I will try this properly in the future. Simply south (talk) 01:11, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Who is watching?
Is there a magic button somewhere that shows who is watching an article?--Yamanbaiia (free hugs!) 22:46, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * For administrators, Special:Unwatchedpages shows which pages are not on any watchlists, but I don't think anything tells which pages are watched, let alone who's watching them. Keilana|Parlez ici 22:53, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I would doubt that such functions exist, as they would allow reconstruction of that special page through user scripting. -- Thin  boy  00  @230, i.e. 04:31, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

A warning to my ISP
Today I received a the following message...

'''Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing. However, unconstructive edits are considered vandalism and immediately reverted. If you continue in this manner you may be blocked from editing without further warning. Please stop, and consider improving rather than damaging the work of others. Thank you.'''

I have never vandalised a Wikipedia page and the last time I made a small change to an arcticle that was being vandalised by another ISP was weeks ago. I am at a total loss as to why I was sent this message. Can you give me further information?

thank you :-) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.202.3.252 (talk) 22:47, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * This is probably because someone else shares or used to have your IP (internet protocol) address. This is no big deal, it happens quite a lot, but you may want to create an account so that you don't get any warnings not meant for you. Good luck, and thank you for contributing to Wikipedia. Keilana|Parlez ici 22:55, 19 January 2008 (UTC)


 * The message was added 29 January 2007, probably for this edit. The message is undated because the editor failed to sign it. You may recently have seen an orange banner saying "new messages" but "new" is misleading here. Don't worry about it. As Keilana said, somebody else probably used that IP address a year ago. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:03, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you both for replying, I appreciate it and I have actioned your 'create an account' advice Keilana.

regards, Lucy —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lucy Sky (talk • contribs) 12:26, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Mickey Rourke page
The birthday of Mickey Rourke should be 16sep1956 (see http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000620/) but it looks if it is not possible to edit that part of de information on wikipedia. When you open de page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Rourke and klick on edit directly right under content you get the information of the bio not the first part.

I hope I didn't do anything wrong or dumm if so let me know.

Regards, Conny Ruijgrok —Preceding unsigned comment added by Conny ruijgrok (talk • contribs) 23:21, 19 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Click the "edit this page" tab at the top to edit the lead. In Gadgets at Special:Preferences you can choose to get an edit link for the lead. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:42, 19 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Wow, I never found that option before. Wouldn't it be more sensible to put it under the Edit tab rather than Gadgets? Or even to set it as the default? (No doubt this has been debated in the past, so I'm sure there's a really really good reason...)--Shantavira|feed me 16:55, 20 January 2008 (UTC)