Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2008 July 1

= July 1 =

Blacklist
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Ferus Gallery
On your heading for the 'Ferus Gallery', you do not have the most important research website done to date. I know this is not the proper way in, but please submit the historical research webpage about the Ferus Gallery. It is- http://www.ferusgallery.com "A gallery and community of west coast artist's culture".

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.213.224.36 (talk) 04:36, 1 July 2008 (UTC)


 * external links and WP:BOLD should be of service. I'm also removing your contact information.  Wisdom89  ( T |undefined /  C ) 04:38, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Kumiko Higa
I am currently working on the article Kumiko Higa on User:Kitty53/Test page. Can anyone help?Kitty53 (talk) 05:23, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Can you specify more what you need help with? -- Nataly a 11:29, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Check a diff, please?
Could someone who isn't at work (or has more liberal work place policies) check this diff for vandalism? I don't want to pull up the cited source here to check the edit. Thanks, Dismas |(talk) 07:35, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Checked the site, she "did some simulated stuff with other girls... Then I decided I wanted to work with men. In my personal life, I am not attracted to women at all. I can admire a beautiful woman, but I didn’t feel comfortable working with women on that level." Reverted and 'd the IP. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 07:55, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Dismas |(talk) 08:17, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

how to pronounce
how do i find how to pronounce a certain word. 202.21.176.43 (talk) 09:28, 1 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Dictionary.com

-- Piazzajordan2 ( Talk. ) 09:29, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * And don't forget Wiktionary? – ukexpat (talk) 13:31, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Hip hop
I want to join WikiProject Hip Hop, how do i?

-- Piazzajordan2 ( Talk. ) 09:35, 1 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Go to their member list and follow the instructions. It only involves placing your name in the roster and adding the WikiProject userbox.  Hope that helps. --Sky Harbor (talk) 10:08, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

post or entry
can i post an entry? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Riotme2000 (talk • contribs) 09:46, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Not yet. In order to create articles and take certain other actions your account must be autoconfirmed, meaning it must be four days old and you must have made ten or more edits. Once you reach this threshold, before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.


 * Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.


 * If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Your first article and How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 10:55, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Script for preventing access to my contributions page
I'd very much appreciate it if someone could help me with a quick script; I was looking for something that would lock me out of my contribs page: I want to start thinking of my edits in less numerical terms. I run Mac OS X, so any external apps that are Windows-only will not work; something for the monobook would be my preference, but any help is great. Thanks. -- Anonymous Dissident  Talk 12:15, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Wouldn't it be simpler to just refrain from clicking on the my contributions link? --Teratornis (talk) 16:53, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Article Coretta Scott King
There appears to be apparent vandalism on Coretta Scott King. Efforts by editors to reverse this vandalism are not working. I clicked edit myself and the vandalism does not appear in the code of the page. Also the history page shows the reversion yet the actual page shows the vandalism. The purpoted vandalism is on the bottom of the first line.

Coretta Scott King (April 27, 1927 – January 30, 2006) was the wife of the civil rights activist Martin Luther King, Jr, author, activist, in Atlanta, Georgia. She is a recipient of the Congressional Gold Medal. She is like the beautiful, lovely wife of Martin Luther King Jr.

Any assistance in this matter would be appreciated.

--Jon Cates (talk) 12:38, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * The vandalism appears to have been reverted by Thedjatclubrock. Cheers!  TN ‑ X - Man  12:44, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * The vandalism was reverted. Try clearing out your browser's cache.  Once that's done, you should see the vandalism-free article.  Dismas |(talk) 12:45, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Gerontology
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerontology

At the bottom of the article, after the refs, there is a section called "History of Gerontology". I want to move this section above the refs. Can anyone help? There appear to be formatting issues.

--Phenylalanine (talk) 12:55, 1 July 2008 (UTC)


 * There was a missing (a very common mistake). I fixed it. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:03, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot! --Phenylalanine (talk) 13:18, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Save articles to account...
Hello. I was just wondering whether it may be possible to save specific articles to my account for easy access at later dates. And if this is already possible, would you please link your answer. Thanks.

Svna91 (talk) 15:27, 1 July 2008 (UTC)


 * You can link to the articles from your userpage (and create it along the process). You can link them by inserting two square brackets and the name of the article, like this: conatus . That will create a sort of online bookmark system... you can of course copy/paste articles to your userspace but that'll be inefficient generally. -- Menti  sock  15:39, 1 July 2008 (UTC)


 * There's the watchlist function, which lets you watch and link to the current version of any page, and be notified of any changes to it. To add a page to your watchlist, visit it and click on the "watch" tab (top, near centre).  To view your whole watchlist, click "my watchlist" (top right), then "View and edit watchlist" (top, under title) to bring up a list of all your watched pages with clickable links.  --  Ka renjc 16:21, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * See Your very own Wikipedia bookmark page. (You might like to display a tip like that on your user page every day.) Another option is to install the Google Toolbar in your Web browser, which lets you access your Google Bookmarks - if you don't mind letting Google see what you like, and accounting (very slightly) for your preferences in its PageRank algorithm. --Teratornis (talk) 16:50, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Plagiarism?
Don't have access to outside internet to check, but this article seems like it was plagiarized from somewhere. Can someone check it out? --Endless Dan 17:44, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * It's hard to say. http://warpedtour.battleofthebands.com/profile/HarleyP89/friends has what looks like a beginning of the article, but I can't even find where the whole thing resides.  They could have copied it from the Wikipedia article, whose content has been there since October.  It's still a pretty bad article, regardless of whether it's copied or not.   Corvus cornix  talk  17:58, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Good catch! It's directly from http://warpedtour.battleofthebands.com/profile/glass_pinata/about.  Luckily, there's an eariler, short non-plaguerized version of the article, which I'll revert back to. -- Nataly a  18:00, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Copying your information for another website.
Hi, I am currently making my own website. Am I allowed to copy information from your website to put on mind if I note that this information in from Wikipedia. I am unclear about copyright and stuff. Also does your answer apply to Wookieepedia as well? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.155.173.70 (talk) 18:11, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I am unsure about Wookieepedia (you might want to check the policies that they have there), however on Wikipedia you may reuse content as long as you follow the rules governed by the GNU Free Documentation License. Also these links may be of interest: Copyrights and Text of the GNU Free Documentation License. I hope this helps. Nan oha A's Yu ri     Talk, My master 18:19, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Update* From my last statement, I just looked on on Wookieepedia, and it seems they also use the GNU Free Documentation License. Nan oha A's Yu ri     Talk, My master 18:24, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Notability Noticeboard
Is there any noticeboard, which a person can discuss whether something may be notable enough to warrant creation of an article via WP:AFC. If so could someone please provide a link to it. Thank you, Nan oha A's Yu ri     Talk, My master 18:14, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Help with links
I have tried everything I know and every time I put a link in the reference section it is a different size and font and after a few seconds it disappears. I have search for help and I just can not find any how to put a link that formats like it is on the final web page. I actually do the website for my paper, but this has me stumped. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hotlava646 (talk • contribs) 18:22, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * In your case you were reverted by an automated bot (see this diff) because you included the text http://www.example.com which is a blacklisted hyper link. -Icĕwedg Ё  (ťalķ) 18:24, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Make sure the link is in article surrounded by ref tags. Try deleting your cache. StewieGriffin!  &bull; Talk Sign Listen 18:27, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * The link has been correctly inserted now. -Icĕwedg Ё  (ťalķ) 18:28, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Adding photos to my article
I wrote the article of Rev. Luther Alexander Gotwald. I have a photo of him and his wife that I think would add a lot to the article. I have three more petinent photos that I would also like to add to the article, if it is possible to put that many photos in an article. Apparently, as a newcomer, I am not allowed to do that. It is not clear to me when I will be allowed to do that, if ever. Is it possible to e-mail those photos to someone else, who is eligible, and have him or her post them. If so, how? If not, exactly what do I have to do to become eligible?

Springfieldohio (talk) 19:21, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * In order to upload images, you need to be an autoconfirmed user, which means you need to have held an account for 4 days and have at least ten edits. You seem to have satisfied the latter, so in another two days you should be eligible to upload images.  It's best to upload them at Wikimedia Commons if you can, so that all projects can have access to them.  Images and Image use policy are good starting points to learn how to upload, and what can and cannot be uploaded. -  Ka renjc 19:33, 1 July 2008 (UTC)


 * You can e-mail them to me at icewedge@gmail.com and I will upload them to commons, before this however, one question; you do have full ownership of the photos right (i.e. you were the photographer)? -Icĕwedg Ё  (ťalķ) 19:38, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

They are from my family photo collection. They are over a hundred years old, so the photographer is no longer with us, whoever that was. I have donated copies of photos from this collection to several museums and libraries. I will try again to post them myself in a few days. If I cannot, I will take you up on your kind offer to post them for me. Thanks for your response.

Springfieldohio (talk) 20:17, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Page View Counter
I seem to remember seeing a tool someone had developed where you enter the name of a Wikipedia page and it showed the number of times that page has been viewed by day, week, month etc. Anyone know where I can find that tool? Tex (talk) 20:05, 1 July 2008 (UTC)


 * http://stats.grok.se – thedemonhog   talk  •  edits  20:08, 1 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Very cool. Thanks much. Tex (talk) 20:13, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

What happened to the May 5 archives?
Yes, I'm two months behind. That doesn't mean I don't find reading the archives entertaining as well as informative. Vchimpanzee ·  talk  ·  contributions  · 20:45, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * The archives to what? Wikipedia has many archives; see for example: Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Archive box collapsible. --Teratornis (talk) 21:22, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I will go out on a limb here and guess it's Help desk/Archives/2008 May 5 ;-) PrimeHunter (talk) 21:44, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * This reminds me of a joke: an engineer, a physicist, and a mathematician visited England. While (er, whilst) riding on the train through the English countryside, they saw a black sheep grazing on a hillside. The engineer exclaimed, "Look! England has black sheep." The physicist said, "You mean we see that England has at least one black sheep." The mathematician said, "England has a sheep with one black side." --Teratornis (talk) 04:53, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I have no idea. Perhaps the archiving bot died? Anyway, the May 5 archive can be found here, the long way. Hope this helps. weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 21:58, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I fixed my link, the old one was complete rubbish, sorry.  weburiedoursecretsinthegarden  22:03, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I've also manually archived May 5 for you at the link PrimeHunter provided above.  weburiedoursecretsinthegarden  22:05, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Nowiki Problem
I have attempted to dig around for help on this problem but was unable to find it. For /some/ reason the nowiki tag is simply not working. It will give various strings of results when it is used and this problem has been occuring for a bit now.

For an example of what it is giving off on the wiki that I am attempting to fix:

http://www.serenitymush.com/wiki/index.php/Template:Navigation_Box

There are other pages where the 'nowiki' tag is in that it will begin with the UNIQ then go into a series of different numbers. All the tags are correct for the nowiki that I have dug through but simply is not working. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nysacire (talk • contribs) 22:04, 1 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Are you formatting them like this: Text that you don't want wikified  ? I can't see the source of the template because I'm required to login. Let me know if that helps. Thanks, PeterSymonds  (talk)  22:07, 1 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry! I forgot it requires login. Yes. For example one of the pages that is doing it: |List = (Then the nowiki tags exactly like above.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nysacire (talk • contribs) 22:10, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Someone may be able to help you here, but this page is really about using Wikipedia. A dedicated place to ask questions regardng Mediawiki software issues is at the Mediawiki Project:Support desk. You could also try the computer section of the Reference Desk.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:44, 1 July 2008 (UTC)