Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2008 July 29

= July 29 =

Signature
Hello, my signature seems to be having some problems as of late, when I post it in main space: Kuro ♪ , it works fine, however, when it funtions as a signature it reads only as the raw HTML code. NOTE: I do have raw signature turned off.&#91;&#91;User:Kurowoofwoof111&#124; &lt;font color="Blue"&gt;&#39;&#39;&#39;Kuro ♪&#39;&#39;&#39;&lt;/font&gt;&#93;&#93; (talk) 00:09, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * You need raw signature checked, not unchecked. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 00:12, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * All you have to do is go to back to your preferences and check mark the box next to "raw signature". It has to be checked or else it will not work properly. Thanks, RyRy  ( talk ) 02:52, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * If you want to know the technical details, not checking raw signature will make the MediaWiki (the software the place runs on) make your signature link to your userpage, nullifying any existing links by escaping the characters. Checking it prevents it from doing so. Any signature containing a link must be checked as raw, otherwise the links won't work (as they aren't supposed to). Calvin 1998 (t-c) 03:07, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Unable to Access "Red Square" Moscow
I have attempted several approaches to access any article about "Red Square" in Moscow. All attempts bring up the following statement:

<link rel="alternate" type="application/

I am new to Wikipedia. Am I doing something wrong? I have successfully brought up other Moscow locations.

Thank you. "Rrm56 (talk) 01:15, 29 July 2008 (UTC)"
 * We have an article Red Square. I can't see anything there that could cause problems, and it displays fine for me on FireFox, IE, Opera, and Safari. What, precisely, do you see when you click that link? Algebraist 01:21, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Bullet (*)
What character or image is used for the bullet created by *?


 * <--This character, to the left

Graham (talk, contrib, SIGN HERE!!!) 03:06, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * http://en.wikipedia.org/skins-1.5/monobook/bullet.gif . Calvin 1998 (t-c) 03:08, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Scrollable TOC
I've noticed on some people's talk pages, the Table of Contents at the top is scrollable. How do you do this?

♫Deathgleaner 04:00, 29 July 2008 (UTC) Try this .- Icewedge (talk) 04:49, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * The only problem with that is in a technical sense, the TOC isn't really scrollable, it's simple placed inside a table that is scrollable and smaller than the TOC itself. That's probably how people do it, though... Calvin 1998 (t-c) 05:12, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Just find one of those talk pages and copy their code. (If you need help with that feel free to just post a link here and I as well as many other users will be happy to help you sort through it)  D a R kA g E 7 [Talk] 05:17, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Sort of water filter system in US
Can I know what sort of water filter system is most common in US?

Is is Reverse OSmosis, UV, or other sort?

Thanks!


 * [[Image:P question.svg|20px]] This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Miscellaneous reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link and ask away. You could always try  for an article related to the topic you want to know more about.  I hope this helps. -  CWY2190    ( talk  •  contributions )  05:25, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

The size of virus and heavy metal in water
Can anybody show me the picture or scale of virus and heavy metal which exist in our drinking water?

Which sort of filter can actually remove this kind of creatures and contaminant? Thanks!!


 * Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 05:40, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Am I wrong?
See this. Am I wrong in reverting this? Dismas |(talk) 05:37, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Nope, I don't believe so. In fact, I reverted it back to your version after an undo. NuclearWarfare  contact me My work  05:48, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks. Dismas |(talk) 07:41, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Notability
Does Jen Zoia deserve a mention on the Port Charlotte High School article (see the search results at excite.com)? GO-PCHS-NJROTC (Messages) 08:10, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I'd advise against linking anyone in the "notables" section unless they have an article already. That said, the good hits I notice are from the local Charlotte newspaper, so any notability that might infer is highly questionable. (and why excite.com? It's just google with different look...) Someguy1221 (talk) 08:23, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Excite has results from Google, Yahoo, and Ask. There are some things that show up in Google that aren't in Yahoo and vice versa. GO-PCHS-NJROTC  (Messages) 08:48, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Is Zoia worthy of her own article? I'm guessing no at this time, but I just thought I'd ask. 74.4.117.82 (talk) 19:31, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

about e-books
I wanna know that where we get the new ideas and different techonology to implement our plans in e-books to our project?59.98.114.53 (talk) 08:53, 29 July 2008 (UTC)anitha—59.98.114.53 (talk) 08:53, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * We have an article about e-books. I guess your project is not on Wikipedia. Have you tried the Computing section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:35, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Local copy of Nature article?
I am doing some research for a paper about Wikipedia's reliability and I have come across this paper. However I do not have a subscription to Nature and am wondering if there is a copy stores on a Wikipedia server someplace? Or perhaps someone has the PDF? Thanks! Bstone (talk) 10:54, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmm, it's a funny thing, when I click that link I can read the article. My license terms prevent me from publishing it though. Perhaps you could send me an email so we might discuss the problem further. You can also check at the library. Franamax (talk) 11:12, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

how do you add an article to wikipedia?
i have looked everywhere and i cannot find anywhere to do that, and i really want to. please answer,68.45.91.112 (talk) 12:07, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * You will need to first register an account, which has many benefits, including the ability to create articles. Once you have registered, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.


 * Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.


 * If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Your first article and How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:24, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Codes for styles
Do we have (either here or on Meta or somewhere else) a centralized list of all the codes that can be used after &lt;div style= and &lt;span style= for text formatting? —Angr 13:00, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * This is a list I use as a cheat sheet: --——  Gadget850 (Ed)  talk  -  13:13, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Editing the entry: How to do that?
Hi,

I was trying to edit the article about "Gautama Buddha" but find no edit button or any other option that allows me to do that. All I was trying to edit was: Change the name of the country Buddha was born from 'India' to 'Nepal'.

Lumbini where Buddha was born was (ans is) part of Nepal. His father used to be the king of that small territory and that area has been part of Nepal ever since. Nepal never invaded any part of India. So it had been part of Nepal ever since. The place still IS in Nepal.

Could your Wiki team remove those errors about the place Buddha was born?

Thank you.

Dilli Neupane


 * Gautama Buddha is semi-protected so only autoconfirmed users can edit it. This means your account must be at least 4 days old and have at least 10 edits. You can suggest changes at Talk:Gautama Buddha. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:24, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Large Font Size
````the articles contain text of very large font size.How can I restore it to original font size?````


 * This may be a browser option. Try holding down the 'Ctrl' and '-' keys at the same time. If that doesn't work, what is your browser and do you have the same problem with other websites? PrimeHunter (talk) 13:27, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia for a company
Does wikipedia offer a download of the format so that a company can start it's own "wiki language" for its own personal use? This means that a person could search for topics related to the company's business and get results that have been input by our staff?


 * The software the runs Wikipedia is the MediaWiki software, available here:  All relevant information on usage is located there as well.  Many companies currently employ methods much like what you are interested in for internal communication and knowledgebase management so it should be fairly easy to implement.--  Oni Ookami Alfador Talk 14:25, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * See MediaWiki, Corporate wiki, WP:BFAQ, and Wiki Science/How to start a wiki. --Teratornis (talk) 19:49, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

same topic in different language
hi there! I am new on wikipedia and I have a question for you guys. I recently did one article and there is english version of that article, and I did a version in Macedonian language. I want to know when I am opening the page for the english version, the Macedonian version is not shown in the box for supported languages, what should I do, so the article to be linked with the same article but on macedonian version. Thx


 * See Help:Interlanguage links. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:41, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * At the bottom of your Macedonian article, put Article name in English . At the bottom of the English article, type Article name in Macedonian . − Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 14:43, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Bot Coding
I have to do a project for a class I am taking on Java programming. Once you write the code, where do you place the code? Thanks, Ṝέđ ṃάяķvюĨїήīṣŢ  Drop me a lineReview Me! 14:49, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * No idea. But someone at the Computing Reference Desk might know. Give them a try. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 15:25, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * If you are referring to Wikipedia bots then Creating a bot may be of interest, but note Bot policy. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:36, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

User Group Rights?
Hey there,

I checked WP:PROPOSAL, but I couldn't find any proposals for alternative user groups. Were there ever any notable discussions regarding this? Perfect Proposal Speak Out!  15:42, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * "Alternative user groups"? You wouldn't mind elaborating on what you mean by that, would you? Calvin 1998 (t-c) 15:46, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I guess it refers to user groups with a new combination of permissions at User access levels. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:58, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

looking up Company statistics/profile
New to this site. I would like to look-up specific companies to get the following information: Address Size of facility Sr. Management people Employee count

Where do I start? Help.


 * You can type the company name into the search box to the left. Many companies don't have articles and the information you want will not always be there when we do have articles. You can also try a search engine like Google at http://www.google.com/ and find the company's own website (which will usually also be linked from articles here). PrimeHunter (talk) 16:11, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

REGAINING ACCESS TO MY ACCOUNT AFTER LOSING THE EMAIL
REGAINING ACCESS TO MY ACCOUNT AFTER LOSING THE EMAIL, I am the Administrator of the account, How do I regain my Administration Rights? Please Help Me. I created this page and have misplaced / forgot the email that i used to create this specific account! You can even Call me! Please Help Me!!

I will be forever grateful! Thank You! 140.239.230.15 (talk) 15:53, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid that is not possible. You can't login without your password, and you can't reset your password without a valid email address. I'd create a new account, and if you really were an administrator here before you lost your email, you can email the Arbitration Committee with evidence. Thanks, PeterSymonds (talk)  15:55, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I think he is just a regular editor; from context English does not seem to be his first language. Mystery User, you need either the password or email access as discussed.  If the old account had few or no edits I think it might be possible to usurp it, I'm starting to get confused on how all that works nowadays... must be getting old.  I took the liberty of amending the section header... it was very long  -- tiny plastic Grey Knight &#x2296; 17:11, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * You need a user name and password but not an email address to log in and access an account. But if you forgot your password and want a new one then you need access to an email address you have earlier registered to the account while you had access to it. What is your user name? PrimeHunter (talk) 16:04, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * From the way he wrote "I am the Administrator of the account", I don't think he meant he was a Wikipedia admin. He just meant he was the person in charge of the account, i.e. the user to whom the user account was assigned. —Angr 13:20, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Never using your site again
Your John Edwards "reasoning" is the last straw. Goodbye.


 * Bye. − Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 15:59, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * There appears to be a dispute over the John Edwards article. See Administrators' noticeboard. --——  Gadget850 (Ed)  talk  -  19:33, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia has lots of disputes. See WP:EIW for links to our accumulated wisdom for resolving them. --Teratornis (talk) 19:47, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

ZIRH International is now ZIRH Holdings, LLC
The company ZIRH International is incorrectly listed..."ZIRH International" no longer exists, and is now "ZIRH Holdings, LLC." This can be verified at www.zirh.com.
 * Wikipedia is a free encyclopedia that anyone can edit (well, most everyone). Therefore, if there is an error, you are encouraged to fix it yourself. In this case, it requires a move, which requires an account that is autoconfirmed. Therefore, you might want to try requesting the move at Requested moves, making sure to follow the directions there. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 16:14, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I have moved it to ZIRH Holdings (our guidelines don't include LLC in article names) and changed the name inside the article. The poster did as requested at Contact us/Article problem/Factual error (from enterprise). PrimeHunter (talk) 17:39, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Rename category
Can someone rename a category (using one of those nifty Wikipedia tools) from Category:Guardian journalists &rarr; Category:The Guardian people. I left some discussion at Talk:The Guardian, but so far the apathy vote is wining. --h2g2bob (talk) 16:47, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * You can propose category moves by going to WP:CFD (Categories for discussion) and following the instructions there. − Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 16:50, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks --h2g2bob (talk) 17:33, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Category searching
I have added class and importance attributes to the WikiProject Croatia banner and I'm looking for templates that haven't been marked as templates on the banner talk page. I was wondering is there a way to list all pages from a category as usual, but only those belonging to a specific namespace (Template talk in this example). That would make my job way easier. Admiral Norton (talk) 17:33, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I don't quite follow you. Are you looking for WikiProject Croatia related templates that have not been tagged with the project banner? --——  Gadget850 (Ed)  talk  -  17:37, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure exactly what you want but maybe can be used instead. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:50, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm looking for WikiProject Croatia related templates that have been tagged with banner, but not with "class=template". Thanks, PrimeHunter, your link does just what I was aiming for. Admiral Norton (talk) 18:01, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Templates, not articles? A rough, but incomplete, search of Template:/Temlpate talk: space for "Croatia" gives these results. − Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 18:26, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * From WikiProject Croatia, do a What Links Here and set the namespace to Template. There are only seven templates listed. Your big problem is finding those that may not have the banner; the search noted in the previous reply should help there. --—— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk  -  19:26, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * For some other search methods, which may or may not help, see Google custom and WP:EIW. --Teratornis (talk) 19:45, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Admin Abuse
How is it reported? Tanthalas39 has broken some pretty serious rules, blocked people he doesn't like, and then covered up their attempts to get unblocked. --66.190.62.245 (talk) 18:15, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * WP:ANI - CWY2190    ( talk  •  contributions )  18:17, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * And please notify Tanthalas39 if you take it to AN/I. Thanks, PeterSymonds (talk)  18:19, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * (3ec) Did you try to talk with Tanthalas? Perhaps that may help. :) Regards, —αἰτίας •'discussion'• 18:20, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * This post is the only edit from that IP. Mjpresson (talk) 18:25, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Anyone is free to review my blocks. Until there is an accusation that involves merit or evidence, I'll consider this a non-event. Thanks for the heads up, Mj. Tan      39  20:40, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Without diffs it is a non-event. However, a quick look at your block history tells me this ip may have hit the nail on the head; you do appear to block people you don't like, and you don't appear to like vandals, spammers and even disruptive users. How very dare you;-)--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 21:11, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Should I give up the bit now? ;-) Tan      39  21:13, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh, yay. Everyone's buddy buddy. So nice to see everyone getting along even amidst an accusation of corruption. Perhaps you should take a closer look at some of those "vandalism" labels, reverts, and page protections on user talk pages. Not that you will. I notice there isn't even an area specifically designated to report admin corruption, despite its inevitability within any system in which one group has power over other groups. Oh well, not my problem. I was just concerned by the behavior, what you do about corruption doesn't affect me. --66.190.62.245 (talk) 15:01, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Can you point to any specific occasions where you feel this admin has abused the rules? Unfortunately, it's very tough to follow up on general accusations of rule breaking and abuse.  TN ‑ X - Man  15:03, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Message left on IPs talk page to take to ANI. Further accusations of corruption without any evidence whatsoever will be considered a personal attack. Tan      39  15:12, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes, and I'm sure you'll be the one to enforce the block for my "personal attacks." --66.190.62.245 (talk) 16:12, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * No, I'd let other users watching this thread take care of that, if it came to it. Tan      39  16:14, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

So be it. I found another case of corruption from the 24th of July. I put it right where you wanted it. Not like anything will be done about it. Wouldn't be surprised if you deleted it. --66.190.62.245 (talk) 16:39, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

How do I get GNU License
Dear Sir I intend to write a "how To Book" regarding Horse Racing and how to place bets. I intend to use Wikipedia Website for my research and to confirm my knowledge of the sport.

In some instances I would want to write, as an example, the recent Racing event "Triple Crown", identfify some common terms used to identify Quarter Horse, Tracks, racing schedules, etc.,.

Do I need an license to rewrite some of the information, into my book, that I may acquire from your Wikipedia website.

Also, a lot of the information is common knowledge, but been provided by "Equibase,NTRA, ESPN or other sporting websites to the Wikipedia Encycopedia.

Am I allowed to rewrite some of the information and in doing so would the information be considered violiation of the copywrite law.

All of the information these different websites sent in to Wikipedia say the same thing. If I need to acknowledge each and everyone, how do I capture that information, or can I just cite Wikipedia as it is proclaimed that the information is free and can be used. Do I need a GNU License. ≤≥

Your Prompt reply and guidance will be really appreciated.

Warm Regards

Carlos M. Arana
 * You don't need a license to rewrite information from Wikipedia. All our content is licensed under the GFDL, which means you can copy portions of Wikipedia freely, so long as:


 * You attribute the author of the work (actually the three main authors)
 * Any derivative works are licensed under the GFDL
 * You provide a copy of the license (there's one at Text of the GNU Free Documentation License)
 * If you just want to cite Wikipedia as a source for information (rather than copying text from Wikipedia) you don't need to do anything. Hut 8.5 17:44, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * And see Citing Wikipedia and Reusing Wikipedia content. --Teratornis (talk) 19:42, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Tracking who visits the page
I am currently in the development of a wikipedia page and am wondering if there is a way to track who visits the page. I would want this to be for free of course as it is an experiment. Thanks, Chris. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cnassau (talk • contribs) 18:56, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Welcome, Chris. There are two main ways of tracking who visits this page: seeing who edits it by checking the page history, and seeing how many visitors it gets per days using the traffic statistics tool (although this doesn't always work). Regards, Skomorokh  19:02, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * If you want to know who visits the page, that's generally considered a breach of privacy rights. The Wikipedia servers do record the information (what IP address requests what article), but they don't give it out. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 19:13, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Fundraising allowed?
I know you can not post about a product to sell, but I was wondering if I could add something to the Olympics Team USA about their fund raising? We sell items and some of the proceeds go to the athletes, teams and their families. Is this ok to post? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.123.145.53 (talk) 20:17, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * No. It's still promotion of your company. Event though it's a good cause, it's advertisement. —— Mr. E. Sánchez  Wanna know my story?/ Share yours with me! 20:20, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

UNPUBLISHED PAGE???
Dear Wikipedia People. My user name is Yambry, and a few days ago, (12th of July), I wrote a small article relating to the role of a 'Marchand de Bien' in France.

It looks great on my page..........but that is as far as it has ever gone. When I search under 'Marchand de Bien'.....nothing. Any ideas?

Many thanks.

I look forward to hearing from you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yambry (talk • contribs) 20:59, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * You have edited your user page, not Marchand de Bien. You can, however move the page to Marchand de Bien.  x42bn6 Talk Mess  21:03, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * If you're looking for things that you've done, click the link on the side that says "My contributions." Special:Contributions/Yambry will also take you to your list of edits.  SDY (talk) 21:05, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, be aware that if you move this article to mainspace as-is, it will probably be deleted rather quickly. Right now, it fails WP:V and WP:N (as a result of the WP:CORP guidelines), and really appears to be original research, which is not allowed on Wikipedia. I could be wrong here, I'm just observing and giving you a heads-up. Tan      39  21:10, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * It looks to me like it's some kind of legal or tax status/concept, rather than a company or person, so with appropriate references I don't think it would fail notability. – ukexpat (talk) 00:12, 30 July 2008 (UTC)


 * You also got replies at Help desk/Archives/2008 July 15. Questions are usually replied where they were asked. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:25, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Photobucket
Can images from photobucket be uploaded? Photobucket's terms of use seems to explain that all public photos can be copied, modified, and distributed for any legal use. In particular, see under the section "Proprietary Rights in Content on Photobucket". Snowman (talk) 21:16, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Some Photobucket users may upload images they don't themselves have the right to, so they cannot give away the right. Media copyright questions may be a better place to ask. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:31, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * (e/c) Sorry, Photobucket images are generally a no-no. Photobucket is an image hosting service. The images do not originate from Photobucket but from its users who do the uploads and who usually provide no copyright information. In that absence, we must assume the images are copyrighted unless their owners have expressly made the claim somewhere that the images are either under a free license or in the public domain.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 21:39, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * But photobuckets terms of service (I have given the link to the terns of service above) specify that the images the photobucket users upload can be modified, duplicated, distributed, and used ... so are photobucket users specifying this copyright information just by uploading them? Snowman (talk) 22:23, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, it's akin to buying stolen goods. Wikipedia didn't steal them but that doesn't change who their proper owner is.  If it was theirs to give away in the first place (i.e. some random person's vacation pictures of the Statue of Liberty), then I see no reason not to use it since they've essentially released it into the public domain by putting it on photobucket, but that's very hard to verify.  For the record, I am only a wikilawyer, not a real one.  SDY (talk) 22:42, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Why do you not say the same about flicr? There are wiki guidelines about uploading from flickr to check that the uploader has used the same camera for a series of images and other clues about the original work. So taking care to follow the same rules it should be equally possible to find the genuine images of work uploaded to photobucket intended by the actual creator of the work to be released for free use. Snowman (talk) 23:04, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * If you can convincingly demonstrate that the photobucket user has the rights to the image (e.g. they took the picture), and your interpretation of their policies is correct, then go ahead and use it. Their policy in itself and "it's on photobucket" are not sufficient evidence that there are no copyright problems.  SDY (talk) 19:17, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * What other interpretation of the photobucket policies are there? Snowman (talk) 22:49, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

What is guider.nl????? It takes you to wikipedia and stuff it is weird.
Ok I googled Wikipedia and the first link came up and it looked like a normal wiki link www.guider.nl It takes me to wikipedia and around wikipedia, but the url doesnot change.

Just want to let you know —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr.StevenFeldman (talk • contribs) 21:42, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * The page is a two frame webpage, the top frame Wikipedia, the bottom frame a blank page. However, the parent webpage is still guider.nl, which is why the URL doesn't change.  x42bn6 Talk Mess  21:55, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Legal advice
Is it sensible to refuse legal questions? If someone loses money as a result of taking legal advice from a Wikipedia article, who is responsible? Does the same not apply to talk pages? Either legal questions and all legal coverage should be removed (indeed (m)any parts of the encylopedia could conceivably be used in making some legal decision) or they should both be allowed. Seans Potato Business 22:46, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I suggest you to read Legal disclaimer. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 22:51, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * That doesn't really answer my query though - if this disclaimer covers articles, why not talk pages? Seans Potato Business 16:59, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

username and password
i have forgotton my username and password. can you help me?jackie moore —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.198.150.219 (talk) 22:49, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * If your old account has edited pages and you remember which then you can click "history" on those pages and look for your account name. If (and only if) there is an email address registered for the account then you can request a new password at the login screen. You can also just create a new account. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:00, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

How do I add an image to my article?
I have uploaded the image. It went to the Commons. How do I get it into the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fvlcrvm (talk • contribs) 23:05, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * If you want to add an existing image to an article, type  to the article – replacing   with the actual file name of the image,   with the alignment of the image on the page and   with the caption, which of course, is optional. See our picture tutorial for more information. Someguy1221 (talk) 23:06, 29 July 2008 (UTC)