Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2008 June 22

= June 22 =

iTunes question
MY question is this. I would like too know how do i move my itune music to my media player on my computer. I have a MP3 player that I would like to put my music from my Itunes library on my MP3 player which is not an ipod product. Please help figure this out for me!!!!!!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.69.57.154 (talk) 00:35, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * [[Image:P computing.svg|20px]] This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Computing reference desk. They specialize in answering computer questions and will try to answer any question in the universe except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link and ask away. You could always try  for an article related to the topic you want to know more about.  I hope this helps. Xenon54 00:39, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * You'd have to go to my computer, open the file for the MP3 up then place the files into your iTunes library, but you can't just drag and drop the file into the iTunes interface. Then drag the files into the iTunes interface from your iTunes library.  Yamakiri  TC     [ §]    06-22-2008 • 00:43:29
 * If you can't find the audio files on your MP3 player, they are probably hidden files. Mac Davis (talk) 01:41, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

flight
how do planes create the flight required —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.195.130.68 (talk) 02:27, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I think the article Lift (force) should be able to get you started. Hope this helps, Gazimoff Write Read 02:30, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Trying to fix a page transclusion error
I've been tweaking Portal:Weather/Featured content for a few weeks now trying to get it to work but I can't. The box looks fine when you go to the page directly in all browsers. In the context of Portal:Weather on which it is transcluded, it looks fine in Mozilla Firefox, but when I use Internet Explorer, the "show" and "hide" boxes get all out of alignment when you click them. Does anyone know what might be causing it/how it might be fixed?- Running On  Brains  05:15, 22 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Not sure what the problem is. You are reinventing the wheel here— navbox with columns would work well for this application. --——  Gadget850 (Ed)  talk  -  12:16, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Here is an example. With border=child, the navbox will automatically fit inside another template:


 * Ok, that doesnt look too bad, but when I changed Portal:Weather/Featured content to include Navbox with columns, it appeared outside of the box it was supposed to appear in at Portal:Weather (I don't have access to firefox right now so I'm not sure if this is still just an IE7 problem). I think I may just abandon the "hide" option and just choose shorter lists.- Running On  Brains  06:13, 23 June 2008 (UTC)


What does  do?68.148.164.166 (talk) 09:35, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * It creates a span, gives it the id 43_—_George_Walh, and immediately closes it. See Help:HTML in wikitext. Presumably that id is referred to by something else. Algebraist 11:35, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * And see WP:EIW and Help:Anchors. You could link to the location of that span tag with the wikitext:  on the same page, or by appending   to the page URL. --Teratornis (talk) 16:17, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

ITALIAN
I'm italian; Can I translate the texts? When I can translate this? --Paperone94 (talk) 12:44, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * If you mean translate articles from Italian to English, you are certainly welcome to do that. You can translate articles from the Italian Wikipedia, or, there are articles here that may need translation from Italian. If you would like to translate articles from English to Italian, you're welcome to do that as well, but please review the GDFL first. Cheers!  TN ‑ X - Man  13:22, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * See the links under WP:EIW for additional information about translation work between the various Wikimedia Foundation wikis. Check out the Italian Wikipedia. In many cases when an article appears in the English Wikipedia, the topic would be suitable for an article in the Italian Wikipedia, and vice versa. If articles already exist in both languages, you could check to see that they link to each other (see: Help:Interlanguage links for instructions), and that information present in one is present in the other. If an article exists in one language and not the other, you could create the missing article and translate it from the existing one. See Google translation for a machine translation tool that can create a rough translation which you would then improve with your human language skills. Starting with a machine translation can save work. Sometimes translating an article also requires you (or someone else) to copy and translate templates that the article transcludes. Sometimes that job is technically demanding, and you might need help from other Wikipedia users. It would be easier to start by comparing pairs of articles that already exist in both languages, and then you could translate the material in one that is missing in the other. --Teratornis (talk) 16:28, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

FORECLOSURE
WHAT HAPPENS IF MY HOUSE GOT FORCLOSED AND I DID NOT TELL MY RENTERS AND WHEN THEY MOVE OUT THEY TOOK MY APPLIANCES —Preceding unsigned comment added by 135.214.154.104 (talk) 15:30, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * This page is for questions about using Wikipedia only, please go to the reference desk for real life questions although I am not sure if the people over there would be able to help you much either; as due too liability we are prohibited from giving legal or medical advice (see Legal disclaimer). — Icewedge (talk) 15:32, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, please do not capitalize all the letters in your messages because it is considered yelling which is frowned upon here at Wikipedia. Thanks, RyRy5  ( talk ) 06:15, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Contributing material
Not so much a question as a comment: I have several photos taken of Palazzo Venezia (and many other places mentioned in Wiki) that I'd be happy to contribute, but it is so difficult, I've given up. I registered, then was asked to upload to Wiki Commons that required a new log in with new user name, password. It's simply not worth the time and trouble it takes to contribute images to Wiki. Sorry I couldn't help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kwildgen (talk • contribs) 17:25, 22 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi Kwilogen. You can now use Special:MergeAccount which unifies your login on all Wikimedia projects. That saves having to create an account for each project. Best, PeterSymonds (talk)  17:28, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Where do I find all the food articles?
Is there a directory somewhere to find and list all the food articles or articles related to food? My area of expertise and interest is food, so a directory would be helpful. That way, I can see which articles need work and which articles don't.Coffsneeze (talk) 18:43, 22 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Categories tie related articles together: see Category:Foods. --——  Gadget850 (Ed)  talk  -  18:47, 22 June 2008 (UTC)


 * That was fast.Coffsneeze (talk) 18:49, 22 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Category:WikiProject Food and drink may also be of interest to you. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:30, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

italian football shirts
why are italy in white strips tonight? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.39.56.240 (talk) 19:00, 22 June 2008 (UTC)


 * This page is only for questions about using Wikipedia — Please consider asking at Reference desk/Entertainment. Regards, —αἰτίας •'discussion'• 19:05, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Showing up in a wiki search?
I just created a page for Scott Wilson (bodybuilder). Normally when I do a search for a relatively common name, I notice that the search brings up a list like..

John Smith (baseball player) John Smith (actor) John Smith (Singer) etc.

However, when I search on 'Scott Wilson', it brings up a list of Scott Wilson's, but 'Scott Wilson (bodybuilder)' isn't appearing there. I'm not seeing how to get this page listed there...or does this automatically happen, and it just takes awhile for the new page to get archived? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.131.8.110 (talk) 19:05, 22 June 2008 (UTC)


 * You have to edit it manually, like so. Also, please add new discussions to the bottom of the page and sign your posts with " ~ " without the quotation marks.  – thedemonhog   talk  •  edits  19:12, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

How do I add a picture to Wikipedia?
How do I add a picture to a Wikipedia article when the picture comes from a search engine on the web? Furthermore, do I have to cite the picture in the caption or the reference area? How do I change my username?Coffsneeze (talk) 19:13, 22 June 2008 (UTC)


 * You must cite the source; however, the picture that you have found may not be suitable for uploading as it may violate the non-free content guideline. See the username changing request page.  – thedemonhog   talk  •  edits  19:17, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Consensus
Am I right in thinking that consensus obtained on the talk page of page A, concerning changes to be made on page B, is still perfectly valid provided a note was left on the talk page of page B informing users about the discussion? I know this is what is usually done but could somebody please cite a policy that states as much? Thanks, --Cameron* 19:36, 22 June 2008 (UTC)


 * See Talk page guidelines: Centralized discussion and throw in some common sense. --——  Gadget850 (Ed)  talk  -  20:58, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The latter tends to be rather difficult for me! = ) Thanks so much, --Cameron* 07:35, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Grawp -- How'd he get past it?
Hey, I look at the block log a lot...and the other day, I noticed a lot of Grawp sock puppets, and they were using terms like "Willy on Wheels" and "Grawp" (here's one: "Willy on Wheels's anus is stretched by Grawp's massive cock.") How did he get past the Username blacklist? --IceSickleSHAKE (talk) 19:40, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * By stuffing WP:BEANS up your nose. -- ShinmaWa(talk) 00:29, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I still don't get it. --IceSickleSHAKE (talk) 00:34, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm with IceSickleSHAKE, I have no idea what BEANS has to do with the question. Dismas |(talk) 00:45, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * (e/c) When a zero day exploit in software is found it's considered the polite thing to inform the software developer, and give them a chance to build a patch, before you tell all and sundry how to spread a virus to everyone who uses the program. When an exploit exists in Mediawiki that allows vandals like Grawp to get away with this stuff, and for which a fix is unlikely to come any time soon (because it's too hard, or because it would cause too much collateral damage), it's better to not spell it out, especially on a high-traffic page like this, so the script kiddies don't all go out and copy it. In other words, we don't tell people to stuff beans up their nose because if we did they'd probably try it. (Note: I don't know for sure how he does it myself, although I suspect it's the same trick he used for page moves, for those that know that.) Confusing Manifestation (Say hi!) 00:50, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, I should have been a little less flippant. The bottom line of WP:BEANS is that we don't discuss openly how to disrupt Wikipedia (such as how to squeeze around the blacklist) because it might will tempt people to try it.  Since this is primarily a technical issue with the devs, there's no legitimate reason to discuss the particulars of how abuse occurs in public forums and would be inappropriate to do so.  In other words, the help desk isn't here to assist people in disrupting Wikipedia.  (I'm not suggesting that IceSickleSHAKE would ever do such a thing, but many eyes watch this page.)  -- ShinmaWa(talk) 03:11, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Log in
I have repeatedly tried to get a log in. I tried to create one. Did not work. There is wrong information concerning my self and the school. Would like to correct it so we will not be misrepresented. None of our staff put that on this site as it is in error. Do not mind being mentioned but do want factual information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.7.225.203 (talk) 20:29, 22 June 2008 (UTC)


 * "Did not work" does not really help— give us some details on the problem. You can edit without logging in and you can discuss this on the talk page.  Remember that changes muse meet verifiability.  --——  Gadget850 (Ed)  talk  -  21:01, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

If a possible page title leads to a different page and I think it should have its own page
I apologize if I should have found the answer to this question elsewhere.

I think that Oscar Wilde's wife Constance ought to have her own Wikipedia page, so I got an account here to make her one. However, if I type in "Constance Lloyd" (her maiden name) it goes to the Oscar Wilde page, and I can't figure out how to make a different page for her. (There is no page for her under any name she ever had in her life.) Oscar Wilde's parents, children, and grandson all have their own pages, so I think it's only fair his wife should have her own.

Marauder The Slash Nymph (talk) 20:44, 22 June 2008 (UTC)Marauder The Slash Nymph


 * You may edit the page Constance Lloyd by clicking to this link. Hope this helps you. :) —αἰτίας •'discussion'• 21:04, 22 June 2008 (UTC)


 * That is a redirect: see Redirect. When you click on Constance Lloyd, it redirects you.  Under the article title you will see "(Redirected from Constance Lloyd)"; clicking on that link will open the Constance Lloyd page without redirecting.  --——  Gadget850 (Ed)  talk  -  21:05, 22 June 2008 (UTC)