Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2008 March 22

= March 22 =

Point system
What is the deal with the point system Poohman0 (talk) 01:32, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * What are you talking about?  Not hing 4 44  01:33, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * On the watch page it has numbers next to your edits Poohman0 (talk) 01:36, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * It's not a "point system." What the number means is how many characters were altered in the edit. If the numbers are red, it means most of the change was in removing characters. If the numbers are green, it means more was added to the article than taken away. -- Kesh (talk) 01:40, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * oohhh. Thanks for telling me.  Not hing 4 44  01:45, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

It would be kinda cool though to have a point syestem Poohman0 (talk) 01:57, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Not so much. As soon as you implement a point system, people start competing. And that means bad edits that have to be fixed, or people "buffing" their score by making edits, undoing them, redoing them, etc. -- Kesh (talk) 13:45, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Yea i guss your right

Template problems
Hello. Using the same template another image has. The thing is mine is getting disgarded. Can you explain.

Thanks, Electric Japan (talk) 11:02, 22 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, give me a link to the template, and I'll see if I can fix it.  Not hing 4 44  12:00, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Assuming the OP is talking about Image:Mummysghost.jpg, it was tagged as orphaned fair-use. I've fixed that, and provided a rationale, but it still needs source info. Electric Japan: Where did you get this image from? Algebraist 13:07, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * (To explain to others, he means the Fair Use Rationale template.) Orderinchaos 14:20, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia Edition
Just wondering, is citing sources from another Wikipedia language edition allowed? Say, I would like to cite my sources from the French Wikipedia. I think it's not, is it? --  Felipe   Aira  13:12, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * No, I'm afraid not. It would need to be in English so that all English Wikipedia readers can understand what is in the article. Thanks. AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 13:14, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I would like to clarify. I am asking this because of an FAC at the Tagalog wiki. I asked for her sources for the biography of the article in question (Teresa Teng). She says that she got it from this Wikipedia. What is all I am asking is: is citing sources from another Wikipedia, regardless of language barriers? The Tagalog wiki is not really that established, that is why it is de facto that we temporarily follow English wikipedia policies until policies of our own come to creation. --   Felipe   Aira  13:36, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is not a reliable source, but the sources it cites ought to be. Thus the Tagalog 'pedia can copy the English one, citing the same sources. Sources in the same language as the article are recommended but not actually required (on en). Algebraist 13:56, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

I have actually used a reference in Third University of Rome that was Italian. But some Wikipedians speak Italian, right. Or shouldn't I have done that?  Not hing 4 44  14:55, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * IMHO, no. If someone wants to read the article that doesn't speak Italian, what happens when he or she wants to read the reference? :) AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 15:02, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * See WP:RSUE. Hut 8.5 15:09, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * As Hut 8.5 points out, foreign language cites are allowed. However, they should not be used as the primary references, as it's difficult for readers to verify the information presented. This is especially important in biographies, where any statement that can be construed as harmful to the subject really, really needs to be clearly cited. -- Kesh (talk) 13:49, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Resolving proposed merger of several articles involving Blue-green article
While Wikisurfing I stumbled across the Blue-green article. Back in September 2007, there was a proposed merger of several color articles into this one. Reading the fairly-detailed discussion page, it's obvious that the consensus is DO NOT MERGE. Could someone please resolve this by removing the merge tags and archiving the discussion. I don't know how to do that and I'm not sure I have the privilege ... may require an admin. Thanks. Truthanado (talk) 15:10, 22 March 2008 (UTC)


 * If there is consensus on the discussion page, you may remove the tag yourself. There is no rule that prevents you from doing so. Cheers.  Wisdom89  ( T |undefined  /  C ) 15:12, 22 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I've gone ahead and removed it as it appears that the last comment regarding the merge was months ago.  Wisdom89  ( T |undefined /  C ) 15:13, 22 March 2008 (UTC)


 * What about the other articles that were suggested to be merged into this article? Here is the tag that lists the other articles:




 * Okay if I just go ahead and remove those tags? Thanks. Truthanado (talk) 15:19, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Yep. George D. Watson  (Dendodge). Talk Help 15:52, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Semi-Protection request
Could I get Cone Mills Corporation semi-protected for 24 hours, since apparently there is vandalism starting now that it has just been selected as a DYK and its on the Main page. I noticed Reese Witherspoon is also being vandalized by the same people. Thanks. --Doug talk 18:33, 22 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi there, please request protection at WP:RFP. Thanks, -- The  Helpful   One  (Review) 18:58, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

I cannot get picture to insert
Hello, I have tried for 2-3 days but cannot get the picture to load on this page ( a biography):

Suzanne Olsson

Could someone please insert the picture for me? Or help me?

Thank You.

Kashmir2 Kashmir2 (talk) 18:47, 22 March 2008 (UTC) Added from Wikipedia talk:Help desk The   Helpful   One  (Review) 18:54, 22 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi there, please state which image you would like to be added to the article in question. Thanks! -- The  Helpful   One  (Review) 18:55, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Indeed you must tell us, because looking at your edits to the article, there are none where you attempt to place an image. You have. however, added external links a number of times. Was that your attempt to add the images? By the way. please be careful when you are adding material that you don't unintentionally blank other material, such as maintenance tags and categories, as you have.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 19:06, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I would guess it's Image:Sue2001.jpg, which Kashmir2 uploaded recently. -- Kesh (talk) 13:53, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Please tell us if the material is copyrighted, so we know if we can upload it. You must tell us or we cannot help you.  Not hing 4 44  19:30, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Nashi pear - what it is NOT good for
Hi

I use the Wikipedia as the first source of reference. So, reading up on nashi pears, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nashi_pear, it struck me that the article sets off by stating what the fruit is NOT used for. That led me to try to interpret why single out pies and jams and whether or not such limitation indicates a apecific cultural background, which would be contrary to Wikipedia's general thinking. Do "East Asians" as discussed in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Pyrus_pyrifolia make much use of other pears for such purposes to justify this angle? Regards, --Rui &#39;&#39;Gabriel&#39;&#39; Correia (talk) 19:35, 22 March 2008 (UTC) PS: When does one use the "discussion" on a page, rather than discuss things here?
 * It starts by explaining what they are not used for as a point of comparison, I don't think it was meant to single out any cultural background and I'm sorry that you interpret it to be that way. Any Wikipedia user can rewrite some or all of an article at any time to make the tone sound more inclusive, although you might want to discuss any major changes at the discussion page first. Let me know over at my talk page if you have any questions. Mister Senseless&trade; (Speak - Contributions) 20:14, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

uploading
How do you upload a picture unless you create it?
 * What kind of picture do you want to upload? If you click on the Upload file link in the box on the left side of the page, you can choose the most appropriate category for your image, which will in turn give you instructions on what you must do for that kind of image. It is possible in some, but not all, cases, to upload an image of which you are not the creator. The Image use policy covers the important information. -- Kateshort forbob  23:35, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Rollback image
How do I get that tiny rollback image in the corner of my page? I was just given the privileges and I want people to be aware of my authorization. MalwareSmarts (talk) 21:41, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Add Rollback to your user and/or talk page. --CWY2190TC 21:42, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Ad help
I have made a wikiproject ad, no. 133. It wont load on my userpage. I need it to, though.  Not hing 4 44  22:30, 22 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Check these instructions on how to upload your image and add it to the ad banner. Since the template is based on a system variable, there is no way to guarantee your banner will be displayed at any given time. If you'd like your ad permanently displayed on your userpage, you will need to add it manually as you would any other image. Hers fold  (t/a/c) 00:57, 23 March 2008 (UTC)