Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2008 May 16

= May 16 =

List of Online Admins
If i want to get in touch with an admin ASAP what would be the best way to do this? I have previously looked at the page history of the AIV to see which admins are online and looking through recent changes but is there a faster way to see which admins are online? Thanks Roadrunnerz45  (talk 2 me) 01:50, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * How about Special:Log? Anyone shown as blocking a user/IP or deleting or protecting a page is an admin and active. BencherliteTalk 01:55, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * (e/c) Well, a surefire way is to look at some process that is in the offing that only admins can do. For example, if you take a look at the deletion log, the protection log or the block log, you'll immediately see admins at the top of the list who just took some action showing they were online at least at the time, just moments ago.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:57, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Highly Active Users was created for this purpose - you can follow the links and directions there. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 02:16, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes thanks, now i know what to do. The highly active is exceptionally good! Roadrunnerz45  (talk 2 me) 03:21, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * If you want assistance from any old admin, best to post at Administrators' noticeboard. Stifle (talk) 11:06, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * There seems to be a new page called WP:HAU. It shows many users, including admins who are active on a certain time. It is really useful.--Ryan Cross (talk ) 03:37, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
 * It is also useful because it shows where a certain user lives and when their online. I suggest picking a place where it is daytime as that is where most users are active. Cheers.--Ryan Cross (talk ) 03:39, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Aromatherapy
Where can I find recipes with both ginger and marjoram in them?Moravia212 (talk) 02:03, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
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Thank you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moravia212 (talk • contribs) 02:15, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * The Wikibooks Cookbook might have something helpful, as well (though for actual food, not aromatherapy). Confusing Manifestation (Say hi!) 07:04, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

deleted article
I'm pretty sure this is the right place to address this, but i spent awhile today creating an article for a major campus facility at my college, and providing information about the history of the facility, how it is run / who is in charge of it, and information about the services and events provided. (The article "Chauncey's" was about our game room of that name, housed in the student union at Rose-Hulman Institute Of Technology). I was wondering why this article was deleted so suddenly. There had been a note on the article saying it was disputed, and that if i didn't respond, it could be deleted after 5 days, but that was only about an hour ago. How can i get this information back? if not into an independent article itself, at least added to the article about the Rose-Hulman campus in general. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SidTheGayJuggalo (talk • contribs) 07:17, 16 May 2008 (UTC)


 * The article in question is Chauncey's, deleted by . It was deleted because it met the speedy deletion criteria per WP:CSD. The organisation did not assert importance or significance, and therefore it can be deleted more quickly than other articles. I can provide a copy in your userspace if you wish, if you want to work on it so you can assert importance backed up by non-trivial secondary sources. Best, PeterSymonds (talk)  07:35, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

I would really appreciate if you could do that for me... I've never written a wiki article before, and i started by initially puttin in the stuff that i had on the tip of my mind, and then going back to add more concrete sources and information as i edited through it.... but it just got deleted out of nowhere while i was in the middle of getting those sources (and learning how to cite them in a wiki...) when it got suddenly deleted... :-( Thanks for your help! —Preceding unsigned comment added by SidTheGayJuggalo (talk • contribs) 07:53, 16 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Okay, it's now here: User:SidTheGayJuggalo/Chauncey's. It's generally not a good idea to keep deleted articles hanging around in your userspace, so only continue if you are sure it can meet WP:ORG. If you wish to have it deleted at any time just let me know. Best, PeterSymonds (talk)  08:00, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Since you are new to writing articles, see these instructions: WP:LAYOUT, WP:V, WP:RS, WP:CITE, WP:FOOT, and WP:CITET. --Teratornis (talk) 19:06, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Removal of a warning
Please see My Talk page, and see the problem I'm having! If anybody has a way for me to fix this, I advise, no beg you to tell me! Thankyou!  ACM2:talk  09:47, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * What's the problem? You aren't blocked and never have been. If you want the warnings gone from your talk, just remove them. If you want the blankings gone from your contribs, I doubt that'll happen, but that's not a problem unless someone's trawling your contribs digging up dirt for some reason, in which case you just have to explain again. Algebraist 10:06, 16 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I know, but can't you get in trouble for removing warnings given to you? I thought you could.  ACM2:talk  10:16, 16 May 2008 (UTC)


 * See this guideline: "Policy does not prohibit users, including both registered and anonymous users, from removing comments from their own talk pages, although archiving is preferred. The removal of a warning is taken as evidence that the warning has been read by the user. Deleted warnings can still be found in the page history. Repeatedly replacing warnings does nothing but antagonize users, and can encourage further disruption; removal of template warnings is rarely an urgent or important matter, and it is often best to simply let the matter rest if other disruption stops." BencherliteTalk 10:24, 16 May 2008 (UTC)


 * What you might want to do is blank your talk page, or carry out selective blanking on the bits you don't want. Then you may wish to add a short statement on your talk page with a header such as "Blanking pages - an apology" and explain what happened.  Leave it up there for a day or two, and then take it down (if you like).  I would also recommend setting up password protection on your screen saver, and set it for a short period of time should you have further visits from your cousin. StephenBuxton (talk) 11:49, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Editing footer templates
There is footer on Psychedelic trance that needs updating. Is there a way to find out where it is so i can edit it? -- neon white user page talk 14:22, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * If you mean the Trance and Psychedelic trance boxes, just click on the "e" in the top left corner of the box title bar and the edit page should open. – ukexpat (talk) 14:32, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Neonwhite, find the reference in question at the bottom, it should have an up arrow next to it. Click that arrow and it will take you to the point in the text where the reference is. -mattbuck (Talk) 15:35, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * The Trance and Psychedelic trance navigation templates at the bottom of the Psychedelic trance article are: Trance music-footer and psytrance, respectively. For general information about these kinds of templates, see: WP:EIW and Navigational templates. Note to mattbuck, these navigation templates are different than footnotes. --Teratornis (talk) 19:01, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

hearing a word
I used to be able to hear the words on there for prononceing the words   is it still on this site? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.100.253.94 (talk) 14:23, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes. Some articles, such as Antidisestablishmentarianism, have them.  I think they only use them if an article title is hard to pronounce ...... Dendodge  .. Talk Help 15:39, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Usually if an article name is hard to pronounce and possibly if an articles name is too long.--Ryan Cross (talk  ♠ Review ) 23:00, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Image help
Hey there! I need some help uploading an image. The extension is GIF but I keep getting an error about common. What can I do to solve this? BTW it is an image for my userpage. I own the copyright. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Friskey finger (talk • contribs) 16:31, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Are you doing it here: Special:Upload? Gtstricky Talk or C 17:15, 16 May 2008 (UTC)


 * WP:UPIMAGE should be useful to you. Wisdom89  ( T |undefined /  C ) 17:55, 16 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Your account must be at least 4 days old to upload images to the English Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:00, 16 May 2008 (UTC)


 * If your error message is referring to the Wikimedia Commons, you should choose a different name, as we already have an image with that title. Hers fold  (t/a/c) 22:32, 16 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Note that images with the same title/name cannot be used. Regards, <font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">Ryan Cross (<font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">talk ) 04:13, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

what next on helping get aritcle on toni jo henry created?
i was looking for an article on a murderer by the name of Toni Jo Henry. i could not find any show article listed in the website but do not really want to take time to create one. i found a link that has the info so someone else could easily write the article but i am unsure what dept or even how to deliver this info. some advice on this would be great b/c an article on this woman whom will have movie of her life out next year in the USA will be great for many readers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.41.204.3 (talk) 19:01, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * See: WP:AFC and Articles for creation/Wizard-Introduction. --Teratornis (talk) 19:08, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * finds three articles that mention her, but no article about Toni Jo Henry herself yet. --Teratornis (talk) 19:13, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, no. WP:AFC is only for articles which have been completed by the submitting user.  The members of WikiProject AFC will not write an article for you.  If you do not wish to take the time to write the article yourself, a better place would be to submit your request to Requested Articles.   <font style="font-variant: small-caps;">-- ShinmaWa(talk) 01:11, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * If you do want to request, than please keep in mind that your request may take a few days and even months. It is posibble that it can take a day though. If you do not want to wait or take the risk, then I suggest creating it yourself by creating an account. But it is your choice really. Regards, <font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">Ryan Cross (<font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">talk ) 18:02, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Javed Iqbal (serial killer)
Hello. I'm a new user here, don't be annoyed if I committed a mistake asking here. He's a Pakistani serial killer and I have seen a documetary where they say Iqbal was a former chemical engineer at the time of his arrest. I have also seen that it was on the article but I don't know why it was removed. My question is if I can write he was a chemical engineer if i am not a registered user. A hug friends 201.254.80.188 (talk) 21:02, 16 May 2008 (UTC).
 * Notability documents our notability guidelines. = ) --Cameron (t|p|c) 21:12, 16 May 2008 (UTC)


 * You should be able to add that to the article (Javed Iqbal (serial killer)), as the page isn't currently protected from editing. Please do cite your sources for additions though. Best, -- B figura (talk) 21:13, 16 May 2008 (UTC)


 * (E/C) Yes! Unregistered users are more than welcome to contribute to Wikipedia!  In fact, some of our best contributions have come from unregistered users.  To help you get started, I would recommend you look at this page:  Introduction.   It will introduce you to how to edit properly.   If you get stuck, feel free to come back here to ask more questions.   You may also want to consider getting an account.   One of its greatest advantages is that it makes communication much easier.  Good luck!  <font style="font-variant: small-caps;">-- ShinmaWa(talk) 21:14, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Be aware that on Wikipedia, what you know is not as important as what you can cite. Even if you know something to be true, that's not good enough. On Wikipedia we don't write original research. Instead we just collect facts from reliable, published sources and cite them. See WP:FOOT for instructions on how to actually cite your sources in the form of footnotes. The key to editing on Wikipedia, and getting your contributions to "stick", is to become very good at finding and citing sources. That is the most needed skill here. There is nothing in Wikipedia's software to stop you from adding unsourced information, but other editors may remove it. If you want your edits to stick, you need to understand and comply with our policies and guidelines. If you have any questions about how to cite a source, tell us the source you have in mind and we can advise you. --Teratornis (talk) 21:22, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * You make an excellent point Teratornis, as always. In looking at one of the sources of the article already, "All about Javed Iqbal" by Seamus McGraw, the article reads, in part:  Javed -- a man who identified himself variously            as a journalist and a social worker -- steadfastly maintained that he            was not cruising for sex on his regular forays to the market square.   There's no mention of "engineer" here.  As I would call Mr. McGraw's article a reliable source, I would highly recommend against the change that has been proposed here.  <font style="font-variant: small-caps;">-- ShinmaWa(talk) 21:58, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Here is written he was a chemical engineer. Is it OK? 201.254.80.188 (talk) 22:20, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Careful. The article says that he "claimed to be a chemical engineer".  That's different than actually being one.  It seems as if he claimed to be a lot of things.  More to the point, I would call the Independent a reliable source and worthy of a citation.  However, be sure to say that Javed only claimed to be an engineer, rather than asserting that he actually was one.  <font style="font-variant: small-caps;">-- ShinmaWa(talk) 22:26, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Copyright question about images produced by hospital
I recently has an ultrasound done at a public hospital; is the image I received mine to do with as I wish, can I upload it into the public domain? Iwak (talk) 21:06, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * See Copyright for our guideline page. But I am pretty sure the ultrasound is yours to do with as you wish. = ) --Cameron (t|p|c) 21:14, 16 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Actually, not necessarily. HIPAA (in the US) provides patients with rights over their medical records, but not necessarily ownership. In some cases, they remain owned by the health care provider (see Columbia's policy on this for one example to the contrary). -- B figura (talk) 21:19, 16 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I looked over that guideline but it does not answer my question. The doctor who sent me the images (not the one that produced them however) said something about me using them on "myspace or whatever" but I am not sure how much he actually was thinking about copyright status. Iwak (talk) 21:23, 16 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, in that case, unless the image has anything to suggest that it remains the property of the health care provider, I think you'd be okay with publishing it under the public domain. To be certain, you'd probably have to check with the place that made the recording :-\ -- B figura (talk) 21:35, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, it is done (image:Spermatocele.JPG). Thanks for your time. Iwak (talk) 22:14, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

wikitable at List of Nobel Laureates affiliated with the University of Chicago
I am having problems with a wikitable at List of Nobel Laureates affiliated with the University of Chicago.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 21:34, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * You had a carriage return before the second "University of Chicago".  I replaced that CR with a &lt;br /&gt; and all is well.  On a side note, you might want to trim some of the information in that table.  It is a little bit unwieldy at the moment.  <font style="font-variant: small-caps;">-- ShinmaWa(talk) 22:11, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 00:09, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Dorchester Hotel
On page Dorchester Hotel there is coordinates in the top right but these are completely wrong. I went into edit to get rid of them and there is no coordinates in there. How do i get rid of them? MELVARDER (talk) 22:29, 16 May 2008 (UTC)


 * We'd prefer you edit them so they are correct rather than taking them out - but the template you'd need to modify is at the bottom of the page, under the "External links" section. <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:blue">Hers <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:gold">fold  (t/a/c) 22:31, 16 May 2008 (UTC)


 * (E/C) The coordinates are actually at the bottom of the page in a template. Specifically, its this template:  51.50722°N, 0.1525°W  <font style="font-variant: small-caps;">-- ShinmaWa(talk) 22:34, 16 May 2008 (UTC)


 * is the line ......<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:#008000"> Dendodge  .. Talk Help 22:33, 16 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Actually, the coords weren't that far off.  Instead of 9' 9" E, it should have been 9' 9" W.  All fixed now.  <font style="font-variant: small-caps;">-- ShinmaWa(talk) 22:41, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

enochian magic
been studying enochian magic for 1 year need help with ?'s involving spiritualist. need reccomendations on sites where i can speak with someone, any suggestions?209.247.21.181 (talk) 23:38, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
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