Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2009 August 31

= August 31 =

Deleting a Page
Does anybody know how I can nominate a page for some sort of deletion, for the reason that the page is totally incorrect? The creator of the page does not believe what other users are saying and does not cite any anything in the article. I tried to nominate it yesterday, but the creator deleted the code without changing anything. Thanks. (Ckulas (talk) 16:23, 31 August 2009 (UTC))
 * You added a proposed deletion tag to Sonic Boom World Tour and another editor removed it (which is allowed). If you would like to bring the matter to the community so a discussion about deleting the article can happen, follow the directions on this page. If you have questions, feel free to post them here. TN X Man  16:29, 31 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Your prod tag was removed by the editor you're in a dispute with; that is permissible, and you should not revert the removal of the tag. If you want to nominate the article for deletion, go to WP:AFD and follow the instructions there. If the other editor removes the AfD tag from the article, then he's done something wrong; and you can revert and warn him. However, being "totally incorrect" is not really a valid reason for deletion. I suggest that you start a discussion on the article's talk page to see whether the two of you and other interested parties can reach some sort of consensus about what the article should say. (Or, if there is a more valid reason for deletion—nonnotability, perhaps—you may choose to go ahead with an AfD nomination.) Deor (talk) 16:37, 31 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't know if 'totally incorrect' was the right wording to choose. It is just that the Sonic Boom World Tour does not exist. The information and the dates the author is reffering to is belonging to the Kiss Alive/35 World Tour, which is shown on the bands official website, which I believe is a valid source. The reason I think it should be deleted is because, if the tour does not exist, isn't that somewhat spamming? (Ckulas (talk) 17:30, 31 August 2009 (UTC))
 * If any sources use the Sonic Boom terminology, perhaps the article should be a redirect to Kiss Alive/35 World Tour. If not—if the Sonic Boom name is just a mistake—then the article would indeed be a good candidate for deletion (or merging). In addition, articles on band tours have frequently been deleted as nonnotable at AfD, so maybe the Kiss Alive article should go as well. I don't know; I haven't really listened to current pop music since before KISS was formed. Deor (talk) 18:01, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Table of Content
How to Create Table of Content —Preceding unsigned comment added by 113.199.190.187 (talk) 05:29, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
 * A table of contents is automatically created if a page has more than 3 headings. A table of contents can be added manually as well (see WP:TOC for details), but make sure a page really needs it before you add it. ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 05:39, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Photography
What is meant by lock focus and recompose. In photography with digital SLR camera, what is meant by burst. Please make me understand.

Thanks

Sridhar —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.92.65.201 (talk) 06:34, 31 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. You can also take a look at Digital photography and related pages but it looks like it will take some poking around. I hope this helps.Cptnono (talk) 08:22, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Deleting image
How do I delete or remove an image after I've uploaded it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmichaelbaker (talk • contribs)
 * You'll have to ask an administrator to delete it by adding Db-g7. But you have not uploaded any images here. Did you upload at commons? ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 08:16, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
 * See commons:Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Graveyard,_North_Georgia_Mountains.JPG. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 14:59, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

How to ask a Question
Help? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.54.202.114 (talk) 08:11, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Yo! Ask away.Cptnono (talk) 08:12, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Just type your question here, like when you typed Help?. --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 09:01, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
 * You can also use helpme. I've also commented on your userpage.  hmwith  t   17:52, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Suspected repeat vandalism by newish user Macgrissom
Poking around, found an edit to an article that sounded pretty vandaltastic. When I went to revert it, found that the user that made it(yes, a user not an IP) had previously reverted a revert of the same thing. Checked his edit history, and it's all of five contribs. Three of which are either vandalism or at least extremely dubious and needing sourcing, and two reverting the removal of two of those first edits. He's since done two more edits, another re-reversion and a minor edit to it afterwards. Basically, of the guy's 7 total edits, 5 have been reverted(and the 1st has deeper issues), and 3 of those 7 edits were un-reversions of his originally posted material. Edit 2 changed a reference to point at another site...which he went back and changed back to the original edit in edit 7(after having changed it for the third time in 6). Given that the third article he'd contributed to he tried to hide behind a citation that had nothing whatsoever to do with what he added... It's looking like he's starting on a pattern of adding nonsense to biographies and trying to hide it so it sneaks through. And honestly, I'm not sure what to do about it. -Graptor 208.102.243.30 (talk) 12:23, 31 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Eh, he didn't change it back, he changed it to a different, more reputable site that has it spelled that way... regardless, some issues here. -Graptor 208.102.243.30 (talk) 12:33, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Trademark question
Hello,

If I upload a company logo that is trademarked is that logo protected on Wikipedia from any trademark infringement?

Thanks for your help!

Andrea —Preceding unsigned comment added by Janimationinc (talk • contribs) 15:26, 31 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes. For more information, see WP:Logos, especially the section #Trademark concerns.  hmwith  t   17:49, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia bio of VAdm.Theodore S. Wilkinson

 * I want to propose several editing changes to the otherwise excellent bio of my father in wikipedia. In the portion of the bio on World War II, there is a picture purporting to show him with Lt. Gen. Millard Harmon. The source for the photo is The US Army in World War II, where the photo also appears, but I am almost certain the photo is not my father. It does not look like him nor like any other photo of him, and I've never seen any photo of him wearing a sheath knife (nor would it have been at all in character). If I can find and scan another photo from the same time frame, how would I go about formatting and inserting it in place of the one that's there? In addition, there is a much better photo of him from the frontispiece of S.E. Morison's Breaking of the Bismarcks Barrier (Vol. VI of his naval history of WW II) than the portrait at the beginning of the wikipedia bio. How would I go about proposing to subsitute the Morison portrait?
 * In addition, I want to propose some textual editing in the WWII portions of the Wilkinson bio that are based on a biography of VAdm. Kelly Turner. The wikipedia text there appears to be based on that single source. While not totally wrong, the issue is complex, and the text needs to be balanced with info from testimony before the Joint Pearl Harbor Investigation Committee of the Congress. (E.g., Wilkinson was not "outmaneuvered" by Kelly Turner; the latter had also insisted with two of Wilkinson's predecessors on controlling evaluations sent to the fleet.) I have proposed textual changes, but need to do them first in the draft. Is it possible to submit proposed editing to wikipedia editors for comment before actually posting them in the wikipedia articles? How might I do that? Thanks for your replies.Tswilk3 (talk) 15:35, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The best place to raise these issues is at the Talkpage of the article in question. Just click the "Discussion" tab, and indicate the problems you see with the page.  If you have additional reliable sources which could add to the articles, you could bring those up at the talk page; and also the picture could be taken off the page, with your concern noted.  If you feel that some of the language is a violation of wikipedia's neutrality policy, that can also be dicussed and changed.  Concerns should be noted on the article's talk page, however, as people who work with that article are more likely to find it there than here.  -- Jayron  32  18:28, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

JPG link to Wikipedia Pages
I have a long list of jpgs from Wikipedia and am trying to match those jpgs to the pages I found on Wikipedia. How can I search by jpg? I need to obtain information of the jpgs downloaded, for example artist, year name of painting and etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Edwwdaydae (talk • contribs) 15:35, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
 * You search for an image the same way as an article. Type  in the search bar, and this will take you to the image page. From there, you can see on pages the image is used in the "File links" section.   hmwith  t   17:47, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Discovery Air Inc.
I created a new article about Discovery Air Inc. in my userpages and want to know now how I can remove it from my userpages and make it a real article?

Thanks, BrittanyPaterson (talk) 15:49, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Seems you've already done it. 92.29.25.28 (talk) 16:05, 31 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I've tagged the article for speedy deletion as a copyright violation, since its text is copied verbatim from various pages of the company's Web site. The version in your user subpage should be rewritten posthaste to remove the copyvio, and the images in the overblown gallery should be removed (they've already been tagged, not by me, for deletion), since they also seem to be copyvios. Deor (talk) 16:22, 31 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I am in the process of getting an e-mail from Sheila Venman, the Investor Relations person from DA, to allow for some of the information to be copied from the website. I am new to the whole Wikipedia thing though. Can others help add information and link the references?

Thanks, BrittanyPaterson (talk) 16:49, 31 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Even if you get permission to use material from the company's website (which should be communicated to OTRS per the process set out at WP:IOWN), it is probable that the article would be nominated for speedy deletion as spam - company websites are inherently promotional, that's what they are for. So you are much better off rewriting the article from the ground up from a neutral point of view and (this is important) providing references to show the company's notability. – ukexpat (talk) 17:38, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

messaging members
hey there i have a question about a particular user deleting a page... and i planned on contacting them to see why...

im on their personal page and i see no link for a "message me" or something along those lines..

is there another way to do this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Delinquentme (talk • contribs) 16:10, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Click on "new section" on their talkpage. --Cameron Scott (talk) 16:12, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

You can contact any member by going to and leaving a message on their talk page or going to their user page and clicking the "discussion" tab at the very top of the Wiki interface. Jeffrey Mall (talk • contribs) - 16:18, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Table & table in template help
I've found a number of articles with mangled tables in them, by the expedient of searching for align=. I guess similar searches would reveal more.

Sadly I'm a bit useless at tables - how, for instance, do I get column 2 of Category talk:United Kingdom articles missing geocoordinate data to right justify?

Here's the broken table list, should anyone feel inclined:


 * U.S. Città di Jesolo
 * Larne F.C.
 * Solna Vikings
 * List of former Sri Lankan kingdoms and Capitals
 * Steve Jones (athlete)
 * Octaviano Ambrosio Larrazolo
 * Larry Riley

thanks --Tagishsimon (talk) 17:18, 31 August 2009 (UTC)


 * You can add align="right"| OR style="text-align:right|  before each number - but it's a bit laborious. If you add the style to the table top definition, then I think it all columns right justify.  Help:Table is a useful guide (with examples). If you need something more complex than can be achieved with a wikitable, then I think you might have to resort to HTML_table  Ron h jones (Talk) 18:28, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Pewter
Having a little trouble with formatting an external link and I am not sure why. Someone else added an external link to Pewter which I have watchlisted, and I didn't see any problem with the link so I tried to format it into a hotlink. I used the standard single square brackets [www.address.com click here for the page] like this (without the nowiki tags of course) and the text appeared as if I had included nowiki tags. Not sure if someone wants to take a look at this because I may be doing something painfully obviously wrong, but I can't see what I am missing. I tried a number of formats as can be seen in the revision history of the article. Thanks. The  Seeker 4   Talk  17:28, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I've fixed it for you, you were just missing the "http://" in the address, all the best SpitfireTally-ho! 17:32, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Wow, I knew it must have been obvious, but I would have sworn I have seen working links without the http:// in them. Oh well, will know better next time. Thanks. The   Seeker 4   Talk  17:36, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Warning tags on Dominion Resources article
As the Talk page associated with Dominion Resources indicates, this article has had a problematic history. In 2007, for a time, the text had been copied directly from Dominion's website. In 2008, someone from the company deleted relevant information on the page before making a belated attempt to request specific changes. Around this time the page was tagged for a number of issues, including COI and those warnings have remained ever since.

This July, I started fixing up this page -- updating outdated information, improving the formatting, removing redundant sections, finding citations for claims -- and I am still working on it. I should note here that I too have a potential conflict of interest, as Dominion is a client of my employer. However, I disclosed this before I began and I believe my contributions will all stand up to scrutiny.

So: I think the page is substantially better now, such that the warning tags should be removed. However, because of my proximity to the subject, I figured the wiser thing would be to ask someone else here for comment about this. I will note that there has been no discussion about these issues on the Talk page since last October; in fact, the last edit there was my own disclosure notice. I'd be very much interested in someone else's opinion about whether it would be appropriate to remove these warnings. Cheers, NMS Bill (talk) 18:11, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

I did not have permission to upload photo. How do I remove them?
Hello, I have been contacted by the rightful owner of a photo to have it removed. I have tried to remove photo myself but have been unable. Can you advise me? The photos in question are at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cork_Graham.jpg and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wikiork_in_chopper.gif. 75.61.100.154 (talk) 18:17, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
 * First, you need to log into the account that uploaded the pictures. Then you can tag the page with . TN X Man  18:20, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
 * (EC) I am confused. Could you log in to your user account and confirm who you are? Because you are not the account who uploaded those photos. If you as the uploader tagged the images for deletion yourself using a db tag, any admin could delete them.  Alternately, you could have the person who contacted you themselves contact the OTRS system, which could verify his identity and respond to his take-down request. -- Jayron  32  18:23, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Just out of curiosity
If one is blocked, how does one request for unblock? --86.134.231.92 (talk) 21:18, 31 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Unblock on your user talk page. See the template page for instructions. – ukexpat (talk) 21:30, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
 * An ordinary block still permits the blocked user to edit the user's own talk page. If you try really hard at being nasty on your talk page, you will get a special block that prohibits you from editing at all. In that case, you will need to ask off-wiki for someone to contact the blocking admin, but don't expect much sympathy in this case. -Arch dude (talk) 23:15, 31 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you so much but what do you mean, in this case? --86.134.231.92 (talk) 11:36, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I meant in the hypothetical case where a user has been blocked from his own talk page. -Arch dude (talk) 14:33, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
 * 'This case' is one where a blocked user, has been editing as the IP above, ie evading the block, for a while and has now decided to appeal his block (his account's talk page is blocked). See also Sockpuppet investigations/YourLord/Archive Dougweller (talk) 14:38, 1 September 2009 (UTC)